🔴 LIVE! Answering Questions About the Nanaimo Infusion Event

be trying to anyway. And then I have to say select stream, and then I select that one. Yes, I think I did it! I think I did it. I don't know how to make that go somewhere, but yeah, I'm sorry if you're watching this on replay and you're wondering what the hell is going on. We don't know what we're doing.

Welcome, welcome, welcome! Okay, you go, you are normal human beings. Signing our autographs, kind of, on a postcard for our merch. You know you want it. How cute is that? We're adorable.

Um, okay, hang on.

And we are, uh, these are the merch postcards, so they're a little thank you from us in your merch order, which you can order from, uh, it's not on the screen, kindredcoast.hello@kindredcoast.com. It's on the screen.

Oh, it's on the top. However, um, we are mostly here to answer your questions about the infusion event, which is happening in 1 month from today.

I love how you tell me what you're doing after you start it.

Didn't I say that we were gonna do that?

No, not that it was specifically about this, but it's fine, I don't mind.

But I'm about to try to, I'm trying to tell people in the Discord that we're going live.

We're sharing this with the Discords. What are the Discords? Discord is a platform, like a social, water cooler kind of discussion platform with channels, which are threaded conversations about whatever topic you'd like. And we have at least 3 Discords, if not more.

We have—

Tod has one for his community. Hey London! One for the healthcare workers in the Island Infusion Discord group, where we talk about getting those healthcare workers from the US up to Canada to fill chronic gap centers. This and there's also one specifically for the Nanaimo infusion, which is Tod's and mine, but it's called Tod's Nanaimo Infusion. And it's a time when we invite Americans and Canadians to come visit Nanaimo because it's a great city. We love it, you should too. And the information is below. This is the healthcare infusion, one of all of the healthcare infusions. You can scroll down and pick Vancouver Island. That's the one I am most involved in. And that one is the Nanaimo infusion event that spawned all this craziness. Hey Jacqueline, I'm Jocelyn, so it's kind of similar. We're like name buddies.

You know what, it's so dumb. It's YouTube is putting the thumbnail it's using is Mirror Falls, which I did not ask.

Is that not your, um, that's the header or something?

Yeah.

Um, Pepcock. Um, London says greetings. Thank you. Is it cold there still? Um, Hello, been there, it's all right. Oh, Minnesota! Oh, hey Minnesota! Can I do a little heart for you? A little heart for— you know what this is?

This is what we used to do for the tiniest violin in the world.

That is, but not this. See the two hearts?

It's the same thing.

No, no, this is the, the violin. Yeah, this is the heart. See, look at this shadow in the heart. Look in the screen, my friend. Look at the screen. Oh, I see. It's a one-handed heart, 'cause this is hard to do with just one hand.

This means we love you, but this means go fuck yourself. You can clearly see the difference.

Okay, hang on, I'm still—

I'm still posting this on.

Anyway, Minnesota, you people are amazing, your staying power is amazing, and we love you, and we're sorry for what you had to deal with, and probably are still dealing with it. Phoenix, Arizona. Big fan in Regina, nice to see you. Um, I know it's right on Todd's lips, but don't say it. Um, Oregon. Gary Hopped. Wait, wait, wait, Gary Hopped? Are you the Gary Hopped that's the dad of my childhood best friend? Are you Morgan's dad? That would be so funny.

Well, now they're gonna say yes.

Auburn, California.

Um, yes, I don't think he is. I, I think that, I think that Gary is saying that to make you happy.

Gary, can you say something about, um, your daughter that I would know so I can— you can prove it?

We can confirm. Why is this?

Jane and Courtney, hi! You're like basically on the other end of town.

Hi Sue again, welcome.

Uh, we just moved to Qualicum Beach from Sask. It's a great place. Now I gotta keep my eyes for Gary's post. Great hat. Cheer on the bus!

No, anyone who does a bit of research.

He's the bus driver.

All right, okay. All right, okay.

Hey Gary, nice to see ya.

So, if you have any questions, what we are doing right now is if you order merch from us, which helps us fund the stuff that we're doing, we have to rent tables, for instance, at the thing, so that'll all help. So if you wanna buy merch, it's over there, shop, and there are t-shirts like this one, this. Um, and so we, um, we do have power, and so we put a little card in and there's a thing for us that we're writing stuff on the back. So that's what we are doing. Uh, the group picture is the Saturday at 12 noon, so that is at, um, Maffeo Sutton Park. You can get all the information at the link down here, 2026.nanaimoinfusion.ca.

Otis says hi.

So it's the Saturday, April 25th at noon at Maffeo Sutton Park. Um, get there an hour early, like, if you want, if you want parking, because the park, we filled it up.

We'll put a parking map out that'll give you parking places that are within walking distance, but just know that we know there's gonna be too many people for parking spaces.

Oh, you have tables, Tara? I might take you up on that, actually. Tara! All right, and I—

Lord of Havoc, that's a great name.

I have to manually post to Hey Cafe and those things.

Can we come to the event if it's a last-minute decision?

Yeah, of course.

Yes, you absolutely can. I mean, as long as you're buying your plane tickets.

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely, Otis is such a handsome boy, he knows it. It kind of did a funny little—

It's 'cause it's now dusk, and so it went into dark mode.

Oh, okay.

Wasn't that cool?

Yellow cat infusion, totally. Otis does not have the patience for co-hosting. No. See you, Gary. You can come find me. I mean, it won't be hard to find me.

To find you, no.

I'm the only pink-haired wheelchair user you've known, So hello from Colorado. Hi. Wait, wait, wait. How can you be from Colorado and New Mexico? Are they not at least one state apart?

I have no idea where they are in relation to anything. OK, there we go. I've put this on. We're right kind of in the middle of the West side. Any recommendations for weekend activities? Yes. So there are. It depends on what you like to do, right? So if you go to the YouTube channel, which you are obviously on, click on the playlist button and look for— it's a little messy. There's one called Nanaimo Infusion. Oh, good call. Thank you.

I want the red one, please.

And there's one called Nanaimo, and in there are all sorts of things about Nanaimo. There's like, we've done videos about the shopping, about the stores that are there, all sorts of stuff. New Mexico and Colorado are right beside each other. I'm gonna do this. Use me for all my things.

Yay, Tara, thank you. Wait, is that Farmer's Market Tara?

No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

Is it?

That's a different—

Cheryl, what are you doing?

So I just realized I don't know what to write on these things. What do I say?

I'm just signing my name.

Are you saying your name?

Okay. It's— there's too many of them. Yes, Four Corners! I forgot.

How do you keep patience with the him problem and the cult? Uh, if we're talking about Trump, I'm not— I don't know. We haven't had any problems. I get hate mail.

We don't live there.

I don't see most of it. So yeah, I don't know. I'm not 100%.

We try not to, uh, focus on that kind of news. There's nothing we can do about it.

A non-USA search engine episode. Yeah, yeah, listen, I have looked at some Canadian search engines, the ones that I've seen are terrible. Like, I did a search for my name. Like, I'm not famous, but I'm pretty easily Googleable. The first result was the Wikipedia page for Mount Pleasant. Search result for my name, which it randomly found because I'm on the Mount— because on the Mount Pleasant page. Yeah, it's like famous people who live in Mount Pleasant, so it's inaccurate too.

What was I gonna say? The, uh, oh, things to do. Okay, so if you Google tourism Nanaimo, they have some itineraries that highlight cool places to go. Or destinations you could see. If you come to the island from away, go see the Malahat Skywalk. It's amazing. And even if you're afraid of heights like our fearless leader Tod Maffin, it's, it's worth it. And it's about $40 to go, $45, something like that, and cheaper for kids. And it is It is, there's a big slide and it's like, I just can't explain it. You could just Google Malahat Skywalk. And who, is that my coffee cup you like? This one? The other thing is we have amazing parks. You could go paddling at Long Lake or at Westwood Lake. There's a campground up at Westwood Lake that rents kayaks. Kayaks. Um, and that is seriously one of the best parks. Um, where should I eat to get a taste of Canada? Um, there is fish and chips on the harbor in a little barge, which is very cool.

Does that look stupid? I'm trying to be dialect. No, with the T, with the T is like a roof over it.

It looks great. Nobody cares. It's okay.

Does that look dumb? Like, is it clear that it's Todd, or does it look like odd? You are both I'm trying to be, I'm trying to like do something stylized other than just my name. I was good, I tried doing a heart, but my heart ended up just looking like a butt.

Your hearts can be a little weird.

My hearts are janky.

You gotta remember there's a point at the bottom.

Yeah, I'm bad at the hearts.

Um, best butter tarts. I, oh, there's a pastry place downtown called—

Looks like Todd. Okay, thanks.

What's the pastry place that we got the Nanaimo bars from? The one with the French name. I don't know. Come to me, but there is an Nanaimo Bar Trail on this Tourism Nanaimo website. And if you want to try, there's like Nanaimo Bar ice cream and Nanaimo Bar— Nanaimo bars. I think there's a smoothie, like a shake, at the Serious Coffee downtown. And it's a good way to like see downtown and see the old part of the city. There's a cupcake restaurant with a Nanaimo Bar cupcake. Just be Be sure to brush your teeth and don't eat for the rest of the day because Nanaimo bars are very sweet.

They are incredibly— yeah, they're like so sweet that your teeth will ache a little bit.

Mm-hmm. Like, yeah, it's best to like go around and then like split one with somebody, I think.

Thank you, Ken. Yeah, take your insulin. Exactly. Yeah, it's— they're good. They're really good. What was the one that I was talking about last night that was like super sweet? Oh, it was the Kinder Kreme. Cream eggs. Those will grow moss on your teeth, they're so sweet.

Uh, unfortunately, Trevor, there aren't vendors for this event because there is a competing market in Duncan. So that is something you could do instead. After you come to the photo in Maffeo Sutton Park on the harbor in Nanaimo, you could drive down to Duncan and go to their market because that's where it is. Pancreas challenge accepted. Um, the The other thing I would do— Goats on a Roof I don't think will be open yet. Got old too quickly. Another retired healthcare worker from Minnesota. We love you.

Oh, thank you.

Here's my heart for you. Shut up. I didn't invent it. The like 12-year-old influencers did. Dinghy Dock Pub, yes. So Nanaimo has an island that's part of the city that's right across the harbor called Protection Island, and there's a pub over there. So you can go wait on the harbor and get on the— it's the dinghy dock. And yeah, there's a ferry that you get on in the harbor, and then you go across, and the Dinghy Dock Pub, I believe, is in the dinghy dock on Protection Island. And Protection Island is kind of a fun little neighborhood, and it has like interesting, um, like art everywhere. I've heard there's like naked sculptures or something. Goats on the Roof is open, but the goats aren't out.

Oh.

Well, it's still worth going to. There's a lot of— there's neat little thrift stores and vintage stores. Tourism, maybe. Well, that by then, maybe. I don't know. Um, they probably come out on May Long.

Um, I feel like I should be taking more, more room than this.

Look how big mine is. It's fine, you're good. Look.

Okay, okay. Wanna ask locals to put out samplers of the best of Nanaimo. That's a good idea. We just are running out of time.

Um, and yeah, everyone, all the, all great ideas, but there's only two of us and the main event is the photo. And oh, you know, there, Pete, there's all kinds of videos that we did last year about things to see in Nanaimo.

So what we are doing, Sue, is we're going to have, we think, 99% sure, we're going to have a few tables there there, so if— and with local experts. So there'll be a table for— with a couple of parents there and some school people. There'll be a table there with someone who can answer immigration questions. There'll be a table there with a realtor who can answer housing questions. Um, so it'll be kind of like a— it'll be kind of like a farmer's market of information.

The, um, don't forget the fudge and coombs. Yes, more insulin therapy.

I would eat it all.

Just today I—

hey John— I got blood work Goodnight, mate. I got blood work back and it was like pre— I'm like pre-pre-diabetic. I'm like, yeah, I gotta knock off the sugar. I don't eat that much sugar. I will admit, I was going through the Froot Loops pretty hard there.

You used to before.

I did used to.

But you also take meds that cause your metabolic profile to be different. Yeah.

These are less and less resembling my signature.

That's okay, take your time.

Should I do signatures instead of just printing my name?

People should be able to read it is my feeling. It'd be like, what is this red scribble?

We are all pre-pre-diabetic. But I'm like, I'm over the line of we should watch this, but I'm over by like the smallest number unit that you can be over by. Like if that number is like 100, I'm like 101.

You're too kind, John. I deserve punishment for that terrible accent.

There, I got the perfect one right there.

Well, I think it's just important to remember that this is all really about bringing in visitors to enjoy Nanaimo and have fun, and we don't want to like make local businesses lose money or like pay out of pocket for it. Yeah, and it was a real boon to the the local economy last year. So we're doing— we just have more healthcare workers this year, that's all.

Yeah. Hey Juan, well, last year—

N64 mean Nintendo 64?

Last year around the beginning of December, we got an email from one of the local newspapers and he's like, yeah, we're doing a roundup of like the big news stories that happened in 2025 and we're going to include the infusion in it, you guys, can you meet us for, to do an interview? So we went down and we met him for an interview, and that's when he found, we found out that actually, no, we've made yours, we've decided that the infusion was the biggest news story for 2025 in Nanaimo. So it made a big difference locally, and, and I think that's part of why so many people from the community are helping out with this. Table with sticky notes for local suggestions. You know what, better idea. We already thought of this. Excuse me.

Well, not us. Well, yes, us.

Yeah, I was just gonna say I thought of this.

It was on the Discord before it was—

was it? Is that— did I steal it accidentally?

You mean the—

anyway, so what I'm thinking is— so it's—

sorry, the Adopt a Visitor, or it was called an Adopt an American last year, was a channel you put in the Discord, and then different— some local folks put it in. There's Hurray! Um, and local folks put it in the— in real life at the event, and which was great.

Different thing.

I know, that's what I was talking about, and then you changed it.

I don't know why. This is— that's what you set for YouTube, Kelly. Um, so there are going to be tables. There's probably only 4 or 5 tables. We don't want the whole place full of tables. So there'll be immigration questions, housing questions, questions for parents, uh, questions about the queer community, because there are a lot of queer people that seem to be coming, and that might might be it. But what we're gonna do is we're gonna have name tags for the locals, the "Hello, my name is" name tags. But instead of "Hello, my name is," it's going to say "Ask me about," and they can put whatever they're— this was not your idea.

Mine was the "Hello, my name is" personally.

Okay, then it was partially your idea. And, and then it's gonna be— that happened 2 days ago, so it's gonna be like the the name of their— the name of what they're interested in. I know, I know, I can't think of too many things.

Sorry, I can't see ourselves and I'm just like gave everyone a head start.

It's gonna have like something that they're interested in. So locals will be wandering around with name tags that say, "Ask me about hiking, ask me about community radio, ask me about yoga, ask me about dance." Because people were like, "Well, we should have a theater table." I'm like, "You're right, we should absolutely have a theater table, but we can't have have 400 tables. So they're going to be, they're going to be walking tables. People will be walking around with it. All your ideas belong to Jocelyn.

Yeah, I like that. You know, we love that people have so many great ideas and, and appreciate them, but at this stage of the game, there's always like, you should, you should, you should, you should. And we, we just do this outside our jobs. I wear 40, probably 55 hours a week. And, um, Tod has like 5 jobs, so, um, so we, we do what we can make happen at this point. Yes, Sue, you have to tell us this.

Yeah, I want to— yeah, Sue, tell us about a right-wing podcast.

And Sue's in the States.

That's great. Oh, I screwed this up. These are getting worse and worse. My nose on these—

oh, Lord of Havoc, are you the The US guy from Duncan, or that moved to Duncan.

Did I hear that resource tables are being arranged? So I don't know if you call them resource tables. We're gonna have 4 or 5 tables, one for immigration questions, housing questions, school questions for parents, um, and questions about the queer community. And that's probably about it.

Thomas, there is a bar called the Nanaimo Bar in Nanaimo.

But if you're local, you can walk around with name tags that say "Ask me about" and then whatever you're, you know, like, ask me about, like, we should have a mountain bike table, but we can't have a million tables. So people can walk— if they're really into— if they're local and they're into mountain biking, it can say, ask me about mountain biking.

Nice. Um, I was— someone said above, if they couldn't come this year, can they come next year? And my friend, there is no guarantee. The odds over-under— is that what they call it?— is 50/50 on whether there will be one. So if you're— if you want to go So if you want to come, I would not wait. Not that there's no pressure. Like, America is going crazy and I don't want anyone to get in touch.

Meeting you two is on my bucket list. Prepare to be underwhelmed. We are very, uh—

Tod is an inside cat.

Yeah.

And, um, and I'm very short.

I shy away from not— I'm— yeah, large groups of people is—

this is ironic because it's also So basically on his birthday, which that it's like two of the things he hates the most, which is crowds of people and celebrating my birthday.

Exactly. Thank you, Mercy. No problem. They were talking about how Canadians have been coming to the US because of— hey, they were talking about how Canadians are coming to the US because of course they were.

That's ridiculous. That is not true.

I mean, it is true, but it's not—

but like, nobody's coming to that country right now.

But like, it's— well, no, now but it's like a tenth of—

yeah, the brain drain was a really big problem. And in the '90s, I think it was in the '90s, '90s and 2000s, there was a real issue. And I don't think Canada increased pay. We're all unionized up here, which does result in higher pay, but it— I think there was— oh, I'll wear a name tag offering to answer tax questions about moving to Canada. Sure, if you can— I don't know how— put it in the doobly-doo or something, um, how we can verify that you're a tax professional, and then yeah, that would be awesome. Um, yeah, so there's a lot of people that are— what?

You keep going.

Um, I forget what I was gonna say. Yeah, no more canned cheese.

No more canned cheese. So here's what happened last year. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you, Lisa. So as a joke, I said— people like, what can we bring you in exchange for doing all this work? And I was saying nothing. And then as a joke, I said canned cheese, like, you know, spray cheese. Yeah, because I love spray cheese. I genuinely do. And they don't sell it in Canada, probably because it's carcinogenic. And I got— I went and I had like dozens of cans of spray cheese.

14 cans.

There you go. Like, but that's because everyone wanted to bring you And it was great and I ate a lot of it, but eventually a lot of that stuff expired. The one from Walmart had the longest expiry date, which scared me, so I wouldn't eat it.

Oh, thank you, Sumiko.

I still love that stuff though.

So yeah, brain drain. Kelly, our friend, who's a nurse, a Canadian nurse, would you imagine, reminded us that yes, there's still Canadian nurses that do travel contracts. Contracts, but only— I think it's only California in the US that has like—

oh, thank you!

Wow, thank you, Ninja! Nope, Ninja. Um, they're like— there are very few nursing unions in the US compared to here, and as a result, our nurses get treated like as they should. And obviously it could be better, could be more perfect, But we hear from the American nurses who come up here that they, like, they joke with each other about getting their massages because it's a benefit that's covered.

You know what's really cool though is that since there have been a lot of, a lot of American nurses in particular moving to Nanaimo in particular in the last few months, they formed this little group. They have like their own Facebook book group, and they have their own like walking club. And now this is actually happening— nurses are moving to Nanaimo, not necessarily because of anything the community is doing or we're doing or anything like that, but because there are already a lot of American nurses in Nanaimo. Like, how cool is that? Um, that is the coolest thing.

Did they say on that right-wing podcast that— did they mention how low the nursing pay is in the South. Like, they— some nurses make like $20 an hour.

We— yeah, the nurses get massages. They, um, to be fair, most Canadian employees get massages. So, um, the way it works is there's the public healthcare system that covers your medical—

Mexico has Canadian— that covers just the weather—

that covers your medical stuff, you know, like if you break your leg or if you have cancer or something like all of that is covered by the public system. Um, but there are things that are health-related that are not covered by the public health system. You know, like if you want Botox for your face to get rid of wrinkles, the public healthcare system isn't going to cover that. You do that yourself. If you want, if you want like a massage, not part of the public healthcare system. However, there, in addition to you getting universal healthcare, there's this additional layer which is paid for by most employers. And the way most of those plans, the plans are very, you know, there's good plans and shitty plans, but the way most of those plans work is that they have like a bucket of money, a maximum bucket of money that you can spend on dental, and you can— and the maximum number you can spend on glasses and contacts. And one pot is— and, you know, for like mental health counseling, and one is for massages. So I would say that most people who have jobs with a standard employer have this extended medical, and most plans cover registered, like, not, you know, like bells ringing and birds flying and chirping in aromatherapy, but like proper registered— naturopath and yeah, that stuff, like registered massage therapists.

Yeah, they do actually have to be one of those. Thanks for hosting this. Do y'all work with vocational rehab counselors? Vocational rehab counselors are less common than like the average sort of mental mental health counselor, RCC kind of thing here, but that's a thing. I have a friend who is a vocational rehab counselor. I gather that they have more focus on, I don't know, functional life skills or something. Anyway, there is a vocational rehab school at UBC, and that is one way to get your registered clinical counselor.

Sort of thing. Oh, there's more.

Yeah, you can sign these ones now. See?

Yeah, I just, I thought we were getting to the end, but there's a whole other packet there.

Yeah, all overtime is double time, and they're guaranteed, and there's none of this you're gonna abandon your patient if the person after you doesn't come.

And by the way, this person, this Canadian nurse person you're seeing in the comments, it's saying all overtime is double time, overtime is triple time. That person is our friend Kelly, and she is legitimately a nurse. Guard! Yo, thank you so much, Guard. You didn't have to do that either. Guard the Leaf has a YouTube channel. Yeah, that's really solid. So if you guys are also looking for good Canadian people to follow on YouTube, Guard the Leaf is really good. And Guard the Leaf has a Discord as well.

Thanks, Guard.

See, people know Guard the Leaf. Yeah, I don't think Guard the Leaf's ever revealed their identity.

Identity.

You just hear their voice. But, um, it's probably Carney. Personally, I think it's actually Carney through a voice box, but you never know. Oh, you know what it is? It's Justin.

Justin.

It's Justin.

Justin and Kelly.

It's so— it's so funny. Katie. Katie Perry. Yeah. Overtime is double time. Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah. And this is also— this is part of the reason that tipping culture is not that big a deal in Canada is because most most of like minimum wage is pretty decent here. Um, you know, most employees are treated well here. Not all, but like certainly better than the US. So yeah, yeah, that's— yes, overtime is double and sometimes triple.

Adorable dog. It's true, I love her. She looks like a little bit of a Snoopy. Oh, my signature's gone downhill. Um, Someone was saying that the— some nurses in the US make $14 an hour. That I had heard, that, um, yeah, it's awful. I think they're ADR— ADRN, like associate's degree, like 2-year degrees. But still, that's people who— that's less than LPNs make here.

That is less than people who flip burgers at McDonald's.

Less than our minimum wage.

Less than our legal minimum wage. That's crazy. Like, I get that there are some jobs that are unskilled— not unskilled, that are less skilled— and that you get them when you're young, you know. Like, I had, I had a burger flipping job when I was young, but for fuck's sake, nurses, but teachers, like, can we not have a standard of like—

burger flipping jobs are also the jobs that people have to stay afloat. They get 3 them and go from one to the other. I, I don't like that perception that minimum wage is okay, like cheaper minimum wage is fine because people are young when they do those jobs. Because a lot of people who do those jobs are— they're just poor folks and they need a job.

Yeah.

Anyway, I'll get off my, um, soapbox.

Uh, LPNs— this is in Canada— LPNs start at 31, so 62,000 a year.

What do nurses start at, Kelly? I mean, RN nurses.

Yeah, what do RNs start at? This is actually good information for us to know.

I'm not Justin or Mark. Are you Katy Perry?

Katy Perry?

Just the way this hour has 22 minutes, does it? Katy Perry. Oh, Katy Perry. Oh, we had someone in health IT on the last stream and they were Yeah, so there are, there are jobs.

It's not like— I started at $26 as an RN.

In the US.

Yeah, in the US. So there are, there are all sorts of jobs. So Canada, when it comes to gaining permanent residency and getting work here, I'll take— then— Can you pass me yours? Yes. Then you can— then there are lots of jobs. The trick is to just get a job first, and then once you have a job, once you've got the job offer, then you can take that, then you get— you've got You work permit then from the government and so on. But yeah, there are jobs. Like, for instance, if you're looking at health IT, look at public— at the public healthcare system in Canada. And one way you can do that is if you want to— like, provinces run the healthcare system here. It's funded federally, but it's managed by the provinces. And then each region in most provinces— Alberta doesn't do it this way because Alberta is a bit crazy— but in BC, there are different health authorities for each region. So the health authority where we live is called Island Health. So if you Google Island Health jobs Vancouver Island, I'm sure you'll find IT jobs there.

Whoa, Kelly, I didn't realize that.

$42 starting wage for— so $60,000, $84,000 US.

And here it's not legal to pay tipped workers less. You— they get, at the very least, they get minimum wage plus tips. Um, I think there is a training wage in BC, to our shame, but Yeah, um, but you can only get it for a certain number of months, I think.

Not Katy Perry. It's exactly what Katy Perry would say.

Katy Perry.

It's exactly what Katy said.

Does anyone else see the "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" videos? They are killing it.

Do you cover—

so funny.

Do you cover all the expenses for the infusion yourself? Yes, we do. So that's partly why we have the merch. I can't see it on the screen. It's partly why we have the merch. The merch is our shirts like this one. Relentless Decency. That's part of the reason why we sell the merch is to recoup the cost. It's going to be more expensive this year. Last year we didn't have insurance, we just kind of showed up at the park and hoped for the best, which is not, you know, there's going to be a lot of people there this year. We think there's going to be more people, so you know, since there's going to be tables and stuff, we decided to get insurance. So yeah, we're covering all of this. I've had— we've had like companies reach out, like Scotiabank emailed me yesterday I think, um, asking if they could—

I didn't know that.

Yep, asking if they could like set up something, like they wanted to have a booth, right? They wanted to—

it's not a booth kind of thing.

They wanted to like be— I mean, they wanted to be helpful and they want to pay for the insurance and offer people advice on, on like immigration and taxes and things like that. But the problem is that like when you take on corporate sponsors, then they have requirements and they have numbers they want you to hit, or they have Kelly, or you've got reports that they want to see afterwards, or— and it just makes it muddy and messy. And yeah, like, I know that they are also part of the community, but we kind of want it to be no corporate involvement.

Okay, pause for a sec. Milo, yes, it is competitive. It is. First, the Provincial Nominee Program is— it's a bit limited in some ways because just after BC started all of this, trying to smooth the way to BC from America, the federal government pulled back on— oh, donations! You can do it here, or you can go to Buy Me a Coffee.

Sue, stop! Sue, you already are donating. You're already, you're already a member. You don't have to do anything. You are already helping, don't worry about it. Thank you.

So, so provincial nominee for healthcare is largely being saved for nurses and doctors because they're in the biggest need. The— I know some social workers and allied health like PT, OT have gotten it at different points, but it really depends on how bought in the health authority is. So that's something you can ask when you get an interview. A lot of them, you can— the nurses tend to come up on the KUSMA visa. KUSMA is what we call the USMCA trade agreement, and you can come and start working, and then they'll try and process your PNP. But there are other ways to do— to stay permanently for PR. Are. So, and that's why we have an awesome person named Laura who is a registered Canadian immigration consultant, and she's— there's more.

I know. Yeah, no, no, no, not yet. Let's—

yeah, so yeah, um, anything else needed? Well, um, yes, lots is needed. Um, you should go to to the— Mercy, thank you so much. —IRCC website, Immigration, Refugee and Citizenship Canada, and there's lots of information there on how to, like, what's needed, how to apply. Look for Express Entry if you are still working. It's very hard if you are not able to work because there really aren't a lot of non-student, non-work visas.

Thank you so much, Mercy, for that. That does help. And Guard the Leaf, stop stop being so fucking Canadian and humble. You, you support, you support this work even— you're so great, we'll swear at you— even because you're not— even when you're not on the live, just you point people to my videos. It's, it's super helpful for sure. Um, I wish I had something more like meaningful to write on these things.

Why are these— dude, you don't have to write because it was wet when I first signed it and I didn't want it smear, but it's— it seems to be drying quickly. It's fine. I haven't seen a single one of yours that smeared.

Yeah, because I haven't been doing that. Okay.

Um, if you know someone who knows US tax law for expats, there is someone in this channel if you scroll all the way up top. I don't actually know them, but they volunteered to come with a table. Um, oh, there you go. Your move to Canada. Thank you so much.

Oh my gosh, thank you, thank you, Sonia. Thank you. My mom was a doctor in Russia and took over a decade to practice.

Wow. Wow. It's— it's— that's the one big thing that we haven't talked about a lot, and it is to our shame that the carpet's being rolled out for American healthcare workers for a very specific and obvious reason. Yeah. But we need to get better at doing that for qualified, internationally trained doctors. And I learned—

thank you, Sue. Thank you so much.

You didn't— you should— I learned from my friend Kelly, who is in this chat, about something called physician associates, which is one potential— one way that physicians who are trained elsewhere but don't want to go back through residency can work in a healthcare setting under supervision from a local Canadian doctor. I hope I got that right, Kelly. But that at least there's some effort to be not losing all of that amazing training that internationally trained medical doctors have.

I just got that you're doing a little, a little, a little happy face.

I said that to you earlier. He doesn't listen to me, that's all. Oh man, any wives in there? Wives have similar Complaints. He's got a filter. A Jocelyn filter. I don't have a Jocelyn filter.

It's just sometimes you talk a lot.

Did you hear that bullshit?

Yep. Hi from Ontario. Wanted to let you know that provincial—

Oh, okay. What would I do without you?

Provincial healthcare systems talk— some wanted to let people know that provincial healthcare systems talk to each other. I was on a trip to BC and had to go to emergency, use my Ontario health card for treatment. Yeah, you can go across, you're covered across Canada for sure.

That is, portability is one of the Canada Health Act provisions. You have to be able to—

Lord of Horror heard nothing. It's all in your head.

Lord, get the fuck out.

You know, I've been saying now, I've been saying Satan, get off my feed. Very funny.

Get behind me, Satan.

So we are happy to answer any questions if you have either about the Healthcare Infusion, which is the community project to bring more healthcare workers to various communities, not just where we live, but all across the country. There are 38 chapters now as of today. It was gonna be 39, but 100 Mile House fucked up their Discord.

So the Queen herself has asked a question. Okay, hang on. Have there been concerns about AI when it comes to jobs like medical records? We are late adopters even to EMR, or electronic health records, so I would not say we're gonna jump onto AI, although there's a trial going on right now with VCH and the Island and I think PHSA, those are three different health authorities that are using AI for dictation, like during health encounters, like appointments. But I— it's gonna take a while. You'd think with single-payer and like not so many different hospital organizations that it would be easier, but we're not great at that.

Yeah, well, our doctor asked us if she would be okay using AI, like, just like AI would be listening to our conversations and then it would trans— it's like it's transcription service basically. And I asked her where the data was stored and she didn't know. Now, I'm pretty certain that under Canadian laws, the data would have to be stored in Canada. I don't think—

in the form that they— HIPAA? What do we have? We don't have HIPAA.

No, FOIPA. Whatever our version of HIPAA is. And, um, but I said I'm not comfortable with AI eavesdropping. She's like, cool, that's fine. So she just won't do it for mine.

The handout they gave us before that doctor's appointment said it was stored in Canada, but the doctor herself did know.

So yeah, writing from Kelowna, my understanding is provincial healthcare will cover you for 3 months when in another province. Once you're in a province for 3 months— oh, provincial health. Oh cool.

Yeah, um, but if you come from the US, you have to buy health insurance. If you're moving here, you have to buy health insurance for the first 3 months because it— there's a like an almost 3-month waiting period.

If you retired before 35 and want to come to Canada.

Yeah, .cy.ca is California, except for our top-level domain.

Question: if you retired before 35 and wanted to come to Canada, would the impact— what would that impact trying to apply for a work visa in Canada? I retire from my current job this year. First thing, neither Jocelyn nor I are immigration consultants or lawyers, so this is not immigration advice. This is just our understanding generally. Generally speaking. But if you come to Can— if you apply for permanent residency and you are not participating as an employee or participating in the economy, you will not get it. You will not get it. The way that Americans and other people come to Canada is— whoops! Just keep talking. Yeah, but I'm going to lose them. But we're also going to lose the end. Okay. Is that you get a job offer first. So, that starts everything. If you are retired, or even if you are a retired healthcare professional, you're probably not gonna be admitted to Canada. Sadly. Sadly, because what Canada needs are skilled workers, not skilled retired workers. Hope Mag is not razzing you guys. Most of my team sees most of the emails that come in, but Mag razzes me all the time. I noticed no diffusions were around in Chilliwack. And it says there is a group that is trying to put it together. I think they've imploded a couple of times trying to do it. So there are people working on it. But yeah, I would love to see the—

that's Fraser Health. And Abbotsford and Chilliwack are both in need of— we, I think we've had 3 or 4 healthcare workers came through our Discord who got jobs there.

The— I was happy to see we finally have healthcare groups in Alberta. Yeah, there are some Healthcare Infusion chapters in Alberta. There are— there's one in every province and territory except for the Northwest Territories and Nunavut. My father from Ontario was here in BC visiting, had a stroke here, was fully covered by Ontario for 3 months, and then BC Healthcare took over. Yeah, so there's no lapse in coverage. You're covered. Barely, thank you so much. Thank you so much. You didn't have to do the— whoops, I didn't want to push that button. Okay, there. So yeah, so we are happy to answer questions on this live about the healthcare infusion movement, which is the one across the country, or the Nanaimo healthcare infusion, which is the same thing but just for Vancouver Island. Really, all of Vancouver Island, we should stop calling it Nanaimo. Or the one that some on down here is the, um, Nymo Infusion Event. It's dumb, it's stupid of us that we ended up with the same names. Um, yeah, well, we didn't think this would end up being what it did.

I didn't get a choice in the name. That's true, but, um, that's okay because it kind of ties it all together. Um, do all clinics and hospitals in BC use the same Kelly answered you, Sarah Kate. No, I don't even think we use anything like very well-known like Epic or something. It— the Cerner is a very popular one here. Yeah, we're a little behind in that. I mean, there is EMR, and most new clinics use even like in the family doctor clinics and stuff, the walk-in clinics, the, um, UPCCs. They all— that's the Urgent and Primary Care Centers.

But they used the wrong card, I just realized. What's wrong?

What did they do?

They only use what you sent them. I sent them two different things. First I sent them this— why the printer? First I'll tell you. First I sent them this, and then they And they said, "We can't print it from the way that you've laid it out because it was 4x4," whatever. There was some printer problem. "So can you send it to us as one big thing?" So then I thought, "Okay, well that's great." Now that I have the opportunity, I wanted to make a change anyway. So I made the change and I sent them, "Here's the revised version." And the revised version said, "Take a picture with and hashtag Tod's merch," or whatever. And they didn't. They used the original version.

You should go tell them. To pay for the insurance on the infusion. Um, that sucks. It does suck. You should let them know because I hope it's not that one that I was using because they really did you dirty last time.

Um, and Kelly can also speak to where Epic is used, uh, as well.

It's not really paper charting, is it? I don't know. I don't think we do paper charting, but like, I haven't seen paper charting in a while, but it is certainly like downtime Thank you, Bee Hooves.

We— every extra view here, uh, definitely helps for sure. And check if you— if you're— if this came across your feed, you have no idea what's going on, check out the two URLs down, down below. Still do paper charting. What? Kelly, no, I believe that.

NRGH doesn't have it. Everybody has a little like computer on a cart, and St. Paul's has— there are more carts and computers than there people in Saint Paul's. Um, I swear it. But there's some interesting, um, differences about being on the island because some of the super sub-specialized things like I need, um, because I be gimpy, the, um, they are only done in the big city. So I have to go into the big city for that. But I don't— I'm not really expecting that every single town has exactly the same every everything. Come to Nanaimo Bars, we have— yeah, um, these are these little— they call them cows. I love that, Mercy, that's amazing. Um, lots in FHA don't— well, that's Fraser. I mean, sorry, joking, joking, joking.

I'm mad now.

Why wouldn't they use the My perfectionistic indoor cat.

Well, it was, they said send us the new version. I sent them the new version and they printed the old version.

Well, tell them to give you a refund. No, I don't know. You should. That, they're a printer.

That's the entire thing is version control. I'll just use a different printer next time.

Well, you tell them why.

When I'm running out of printers.

No one gets better if nobody tells them what they did.

The printer that I went to get the big no sign that I ended up not getting it that was Hi, Guard. That was really rude to me.

Nice to meet you. I— you were new to me. Are you actually in somewhere? It's 11:28 AM. How— what did I miss? What? Guard's post earlier said it was 11:28 AM. I was very confused. Um, thanks for coming, Guard.

Thank you for the donation too. Workplace on Wheels. See, it is— it is Katy Perry because she's in London. Yes. Hello, Katy Perry. My friend said Harewood in Nanaimo is a dog patch. What do you think? Harewood in Nanaimo was a dog patch. It's lovely now. It's great. I mean, Winnipeg was a dog patch and now Winnipeg is like a super cool arty city. Yeah, things change, you know. Your, your friend has not looked at Harewood or Nanaimo probably in the last 10 or 15 or 20 years. Harewood's great.

Also, I have to say, in, in all of this effort of recruiting recruiting people to— oh, hey, Rochester! Amazing province. Um, we don't— oh, Gard works in Malaysia, cool. Um, one thing I've learned, I've become really aware of what it means to complain about someone's community. And like, someone asked me what I thought of Surrey, and oh, and it was Langley, and I was like, I grew up in New Westminster, a bunch of my friends were from Surrey or Langley. And you know, when you're in high school, you have all of this, these like kind of crappy opinions of places. And I'm sure, and people call Nanaimo Surrey by the Sea, and you have to know two different stigmatized like views of communities in order to understand that. And anyway, we live in beautiful Nanaimo Nanaimo, which has its areas that, like every city does, some places started out rough and some places started out wealthy. And people live here and they're proud of their homes. So I don't know, I, I have a new respect for, um, communities because people live there. I want to be respectful of their homes.

I'll tell you what I think about Prince George since you asked, Becca. Prince George, Totally. Prince George is home to the hardest working people in this country. Yeah, Prince George, those people are workers and they work hard jobs. And Prince George also smells great. It's like surrounded by rainforest. It does, except when the mill's really going.

We, we get a mill smell here too.

It's kind of— Katy Perry is a famous singer, is a singer, Sue, and she's, um, uh, she's like a pop singer and she's currently dating Justin Trudeau, who's former prime minister. And there's a joke—

well, there's a very funny comedy show called This Hour Has 22 Minutes that does Canadian satirical comedy, and the guy who plays Justin Trudeau on that show kind of does a spoof of his way of over-enunciating his words. So in, in the like depicted relationship with, with his girlfriend, he's like, oh, kitty, Katy Perry, you are such a strong and important woman. Katy Perry. Is that his Trudeau accent?

Yeah, it's so funny. Because Justin Trudeau had a very extremely earnest way of speaking when he spoke publicly. I thought it was great. I thought it was very clear. It was perfect tone for COVID. But it was very almost over the top. I wouldn't say emotional. Um, but extremely earnest. Um, and so people make fun of him because of that, which I thought was funny.

I thought he was a good prime minister. Like, Tara, there were issues.

Sip is great. Sip— we've been to Sip a few times.

Uh, yeah, we really like it there. Actually, we went to Sip a little bit loud, but we still love it.

We went to Sip right after the infusion last year. We took a bunch of people over and sat out on their deck. I didn't know they did that.

We got to meet the new doctor from Alaska who practices in Courtney down. Um, it was her familiarization. Yeah, SIP is good. We should go there more often. Yeah, totes. I like it. Lactation. Oh, you were— UHNBC. You and— oh yeah, that's the hospital associated with UNBC. Would it be worth—

sorry, we're missing some of these. Would it be worth doing the hospital tour since I work as a mental health therapist? I don't think you would work in the hospital as a mental health therapist, so it probably would be helpful for you, but still reach out to Island Health.

And there's no reason why you can't.

Yeah, just be aware that they're swamped. They're swamped with, with inquiries, so it might take them a while, um, to, to do. I am a pet/CT tech, over 50 years old. Will it be difficult for me to gain employment there at my age?

I don't think so. There, there is a real need for medical radiology techs. Yeah. And there is a channel in our Island Health, or Vancouver Island, um, infusion. But there are also infusions like Northern BC really needs folks like that.

Um, here's an example, is, is Sandra, who's a nurse that moved here from, uh, the US somewhere, Arizona I think, just a few months ago with Oregon, with her entire family. She is over 50. And she not only did she get it—

I count 3 that we know.

Yeah, and there's got to be way more. And not only, um, not only did she get a job, she was like immediately promoted. She was like a month later, she was charge nurse for a shift. So yeah, no, 50 is no problem.

We, we hope in the next week or two— it's also been, um, uh, March break, spring break for the kids. So I think some of the staff that are booking those tours are— have been off as well. So we're doing our best. Everybody's doing their best. Yeah. Sorry, Havoc.

When will we hear back about the hospital tour we signed up for? Oh, sorry, sorry. Yeah, very soon. We've seen the poster. Um, oh, that—

wait a minute, that poster is for—

yeah, that poster was for the people who filled out the form.

But it's April 8th on it.

I know, that's when they're inviting them to the— their virtual tours first.

Oh, I didn't realize.

So what's gonna happen, as far as we can tell, what's gonna happen, if you filled out the hospital tour form, you will soon get sent— it looks like a poster of some kind, and, and it'll give you a link to register for a virtual tour. I don't know why they're not just putting everyone who registered on that first form directly into it, but that's what they're doing. But they are also giving real tours as well. I know that they haven't replied if it were me running it, I would have had it send out an email telling people when to expect it, but they are swamped. So rest assured, if you filled out that form for a hospital tour in Nanaimo, they have your information, they will get back to you. And if you're here on site and you have not heard back from them, they will be at the infusion. And if you can't find them, find us and we will walk you over and take you on a tour ourselves if we have to.

We can't do that because we don't have access. Um, we'll take them on a tour. Tod is a mental health care worker. Worker, kind of.

No, I'm more consumer than a worker.

Yeah, that's true. Jen, um, I have a master's in public health. Um, I'm not a nurse or a doctor, and I, um, that is a bit harder because if you're not doing direct patient care, it'll be harder to go the route of finding the job first and then coming. But you could apply. You're— it's just that the Express Entry version, which is for skilled workers, um, is you don't get as many points because it's a point system, you know, if you are over 40. I think, um, it doesn't mean you can't, but I, I would suggest that you look for work. And sadly, the public health employers are not as up for, um, like, for non-clinical staff, they're not as for, you know, signing the immigration paperwork for their— for foreign staff. But I would have you look at the BC Centre for Disease Control site, and they're part of the Provincial Health Services Authority, which is where the jobs would be posted. And I would just reach out and see to some of the people that work there who you think you would be a good fit with. And like, don't be a pest, but see if they do— if there's something that you do that's valuable to them and just take the pulse, you know.

Thank you, Gabit Gambit. Say hi when you're, when you're there, for sure. And if you're new and you don't know what we're talking about, below me is the URL for the Nanaimo Infusion event. It is a weekend in exactly one month where you are invited are invited to come to Vancouver Island and audition and see if this would be a community you would find interested in living here, or just come up and hang out. You don't have to be here for a living. Just come and spend your beautiful American dollars in our economy, because this all started when the tariffs happened. And we are a resource community, logging and fishing, and mills have shut down because of the tariffs. And so a lot of Americans were saying, "We support the Canadian economy. How can we help? This is one way you can help. And if it's not us, visit Anywhere in Canada. Anywhere would be happy, happy to have your, your, your presence. And then the URL underneath Jocelyn down here somewhere— I don't mean to point at your boobs, I'm pointing below your— yes, I'm clipping that— is for the Healthcare Infusion Movement, which are 38 communities across this country now who have resources for, resources for moving here if you are healthcare. Is there a Vancouver Infusion? Sadly, no. I don't know why the fuck there's not either. Like, I've talked to people in Vancouver. I don't know why they haven't.

I think there's not as much— like, this is a grassroots movement, and you kind of have to look— small towns— look to your left and look to your right and go, I want to try and work on a project with total strangers. And we lived in Vancouver for a long time. Vancouverites, I don't know that they would do that.

Yeah, you know, also I think we love Vancouver, just to be clear. I think also when you live in a big city, you expect that like, well, someone else will be looking after that. Exactly. We're in a big city. Exactly. Yeah. Um, that's why there's not one in Toronto. There is one in Edmonton. There is one in Ottawa. There is one for the entire province of Nova Saskatchewan. So it can happen. But yeah, it's just a little province. Yeah, Nanaimo is great for food. It is. Nanaimo is amazing food. What did we have the other day? Oh, in Duncan, which is just south of Nanaimo, and it's a population 6,000. I had, I had butter chicken tacos, but the tacos, the taco thing was made of naan bread. They were called Nankos, and it was butter chicken, and it was life-altering. It was so good, and it was at some diner on the highway.

I put— I, I reviewed their business on Google and she responded when I said that my husband called the nankos life-altering. And she's like, thank you so much, what a kind thing. The restaurateur, the lady. Yeah.

Oh really? Yeah. Oh yeah, they were so good. I love doing Google reviews.

I know it's Google, but, um, yeah. Petition to adopt Cuba to our Canadian family.

I wish, you know, what's funny is that there are a lot of places where Cuba is under, like, it's under is not the right word, but it has—

Welcome, nationless American, you are no longer nationless—

is like some kind of a, is like some kind of, I don't want to say conservative shit, but like there are, there are, there are organizations in Canada which have looked after parts of Cuba when Cuba Cuba has asked for it and needed it, and so there's already a relationship between Canada and Cuba. I mean, because of the American boycott for a million years in fucking Cuba, when you go down to Havana or Varadero, the people who were there at the hotel and at the resorts were not Americans, 'cause Americans weren't allowed to be there. They were Canadians and Europeans.

Indigo, if you go to healthcareinfusion.com, infusion.org, um, one of the top things says, do you want to start an infusion? You should click on that, please, and then fill— is it a form? I think it's a form. Yeah, yeah. And then that way Tod can offer some support. And if other people on this chat are from Vancouver and would like to help, just like Indigo13, um, then we can put you together. And there you go. Tod has the whole like it to help get it going.

Ladies and gentlemen, there's been a coup. I want to draw your attention to the fact that there's been a coup. Jocelyn is taking over my space on the cards. Here's— it started very slowly. We are making merch cards, and now I want you to look at what's happening. She's on the right, okay? She's on the right. She's on the right. She's a little closer to the middle. She's in in the middle. Now she's straight up fully in my spot.

That's like the only card with my signature on the left.

It starts slowly like that. This is how coups happen. And be warned, because clearly danger is coming. She's moving into— if you get merch and my name is not on it at all, know that I thought of you, and it's because Jocelyn has taken over this space.

Baby, I got I've got the best bike ever coming up. You do? I have the best husband ever. I don't know about that. Why do I need the whole space?

I don't. I have heard that Costco poutine is actually pretty good.

Um, I— someone else had a question and I'm just trying to remember where I saw it.

Also, it's really hard to fuck up poutine. Now, there are places that have fucked up poutine, but you have to be like especially incompetent at making food to fuck up the single most basic food. Poutine is about as hard to make as ice cubes, or toast. It's like 3 ingredients, but 2 people use it.

Oh, I feel like I saw Sue say something about, um, Pierre Polyev being on Joe Rogan, and I, I had not heard that the apocalypse had begun. It's true, he was. But it's, I mean, it's classic pick-me behavior. He's, he's basically become a whiny little jerk who doesn't have any original ideas. So all the other conservatives go on Joe Rogan, so why not him? Um, whatever. I'm from New West.

Uh, so yeah, so anyone, if you want to— if you're in Canada, you want to start one— Vancouver, thank you, Barb— would— we would love your help as well. Um, so just go to— it's under— who's it under? The URL underneath Jocelyn down down here, healthcareinfusion.org. Go there and then underneath the big— there's a big section for the Americans and underneath that it says if you're Canadian you want to help, click here.

And you click there. Yes, there will be recruiters at the infusion. One thing you should consider though is that there is no mandatory retirement age in Canada, but um, there are some implications for your pension if you're starting at 64. So just a heads up. And if you go to the— I think it's BCNU, or yeah, it's the union. If you go to the union's website, all that information's on there. Oh, he, he asked to go on Joe Rogan. Such a— I bad names in my mouth for him.

Terribly, to be fair. Well, he's like—

he's, he's been in Parliament his whole fucking life. He's had no other job. He better be able to speak for himself. But you should have been in the Squamish when I asked for iced tea. We don't have that. You have tea? You have a glass? I'm confused about that. I don't know what that means. Cheryl, explain. I'm in Vancouver and would like to help. So Barb Dixon and Indigo 13, Barb, you should also go to healthcareinfusion.org and look for the little button that says I want to start, I want to do this in my community, and fill out the form and we'll connect them.

Will there be hospital HRs available to speak to RNs? Yes. Yes, there will. Yes, there will. I answered it. Did you answer that? Yes. We like to pour the— pour the tea. Yes.

Um, our iced tea, I don't know if it's better. I, I do prefer the highly sugared, uh, tart iced tea, but, um, I have had barbecue and sweet tea in the South, and it was pretty damn good, I gotta say. I've had unsweetened iced tea, and it's always a surprise.

It's always— I was— I remember the first time I went down to the US and I asked for iced tea. It was about 20 years ago. I was in Georgia, and I, and I was at a McDonald's, and I asked for iced tea, and I took a sip. And first of all, I held it, and it was warm, warm. It like—

that's, that's an accident. That is not how it's normally served.

And then, and I took a sip and I was like, and I actually went to the counter and I asked what was wrong with it, and they're like, that's it. And they call that sweet tea. It's a different thing here in Canada. If you ask for iced tea, it will be very sweet.

Yeah, it's made with a powder. It's like Nestea. Yeah. Um, Indigo, I'm barbecue and sweet tea. It was like Southern barbecue. I was there for wheelchair basketball, and the local firefighters, like the fire hall, it was the— we were in East Carolina University, which was in North Carolina, and they had, um, you know, the— it was a smallish community college town, and they, um, the firefighters threw us a traditional Southern barbecue that came. And we're there for like competition, right? We have— we've been training for this moment. Our bodies are finely honed machines. We eat nothing but like food that fuels our bodies. And they gave us the most delicious greasy barbecue and cups full of sweet tea. And we were like, and someone's like, "This is Southern hospitality, ladies, smarten up." And we were like, "Oh, right, of course, sorry." They were so nice though. Medical coders, not as many as in the US. US, I couldn't even tell you how to start. I don't think we really need them at all.

It's not a job. No, medical coders aren't a job really here.

I don't think there, there are some. I came across a posting for one, but it's like, is not, not common, um, and it's usually just a hospital job. Um, we put a whole chicken in every class. Um, nice of them to try. Uh, you'd have to be a practice nurse before. Is Milo wanting to become a nurse? Oh, LPN. Um, the, uh, yeah, here it's iced tea mix and it's delicious. You can get it with like mint or lemon, but almost none of the iced tea that you buy from a restaurant is real. It's powdered. Um, yeah, it's a weird thing that we like that, but whatever. I miss Southern barbecue. Um, so we have amazing Mexican food in Nanaimo, all over the, the coast, like BC coast. Really good Mexican food is very popular. There's 4 or 5 really good Mexican— well, there's 3 amazing Mexican restaurants, one that is getting better and one that doesn't deserve the reputation. Um, we have one called Jalapeños, which is a traditional homestyle Mexican restaurant right across from the university, and it is so good. Um, tell them about the taco bar. Um, I need to go now, I have a horrific headache. Oh, Oh, Sue, I have had those body transplant moments. Um, no, not yet. Like, mine doesn't even half work, so I'm with you, I'm with you, Queen. You dropped your crown. Um, yes, if it's been over a decade, you definitely would have to take it again. Uh, it's— there's such a sad story of about this Scottish midwife in Victoria who— no, whose visa was revoked because she didn't submit her English test results. And she's from Scotland and a native English speaker, and it wasn't her fault.

And it wasn't her fault.

It was bad. It's so bad. Yes, Chinese and Punjabi. Those are our biggest, like, minority groups. And there's, in the Okanagan, there's sort of a migrant farm worker population within that. It's like a fruit growing region, so there's, um, great restaurants there from Mexican culture, like Carrie Lee mentioned. Carrie Lee, I feel like I've seen your name before. Have you been chat before. Um, uh, oh, why haven't you been able to join the Discord, Milo? Try again and put a little note in, maybe we can help. Where— Kirilee, where do I know you from?

Milo, there are, there are several Discords, so if you can't get into the— if you can't get into the healthcare Discord, um, it could— we could be full at that moment for matching healthcare workers to local volunteers. So you go into— you can— you're welcome to go into my own personal Discord. You can get to all of them by going to discord.todmaffin.com, and it'll ask you which one you want to go to. The Vancouver Island Healthcare Infusion Discord is pretty tight on membership. It said it was full, then that was the one you were after.

So, wife is an LPN. LPN. Oh, okay.

So Milo, just mention in the application your wife is an LPN and that you were in our live, and then the moderators— can you maybe let them know?

Yeah, yeah. Becca, um, are you talking about the island or the mainland? Because yes, you kind of need a car. You could live in Nanaimo and get a job in Nanaimo and probably be just fine. We've got good transit. Not, not as good as Vancouver, but good. Um, but it— the island itself is quite vehicle-centric, which is such a shame. I am desperately hoping and trying to help advocate for them to bring back a commuter rail that goes up and down the island, um, because it's just stupid that there isn't more, um, transit options. But we do have Uber and Lyft. Like, no, if you're just talking about visiting, we have a taxi. We don't— we— two taxi services.

And we don't have Uber or Lyft. We have U-Ride, which is the Canadian version of Uber and Lyft.

I don't even know whether to tell people about that because I don't think it's running. It is running. I've never been able to get a ride from them.

Oh, it's running.

Uh, I'm a gear who is a doctor wannabe gear. I don't know what that word is. Old lady fly— flying drone fighting polluting ship breaking on shores of Bainsound. Okay, Union Bay. Um, oh, engineer sound. I don't know what Bainsound is. Are you in the military? Comox Valley is not bad. Yeah, within the communities it's not so bad. Oh, engineer, that makes more sense. Um, yeah, within the communities like Nanaimo, Courtenay, Nanaimo, Comox, um, Dunk— oh, I don't really know about Duncan, um, but the larger communities— Victoria has a lot of transit and is extremely bike-friendly, but, um, they are, uh, um, it's just that there is like, like for example between here and Duncan, like there are lots of people who work in Duncan and live in Nanaimo and vice versa. Versa, but it's a solid 50-minute drive between the two. So that is— you could take— there is a bus you can take that goes from Nanaimo to Duncan. Can I— but it only goes 4 times a day and it's $7 each way.

Kelly, what are you saying that keeps getting banned by the bot?

Oh, that's what that's happening?

Yeah, the bot got angry and is— it's only happened to, uh, to Kelly.

I kind of wonder whether this is spam, this one. Tod is starting to— I wondered about that Union Bay. You were taking up a lot of space with yours.

I figure it's only fair. I'm just going to make you look bad. I'm not, I'm not going to send that. I just— that was just a joke for you. Poutine is cheese curds. Turned it back against you.

I can't see it.

Gravy and fries, and that's it. You put anything else on it is sacrilege. Tabarnak. Plus Jocelyn. Tiny Jocelyn.

Wow, that influencer, he really is made his head— Burnaby. Burnaby. Oh yeah, Burnaby. 100%. You deleted them? Why did you delete them? Swearing's allowed, clearly.

She's on pain meds and is writing inappropriate things.

Uh, could be about feet pics. Why would she need pain meds to do that?

What's in an Animal Bar? The top is chocolate, the middle is custard, and the bottom is like a fudge coconut.

Not fudge, it's like a chocolate, deep chocolate, um, crumb crust with coconut and graham, like a compressed—

yeah, it's so good. It's a non-bake bar. You don't bake it, you just fucking slap it together and put it in your mouth. That's the kind of bar it is.

Um, omnivore, it's not just Victon and IMO. There is, there is a private shuttle called Island Bus. Island Island Link. Island Link. Um, but that's more for like— they— the, um, float planes use it when they— the weather gets bad and they can't, uh, fly someone out and they had booked passengers. So they stick them on the Island Bus, um, to get you where you need to go. But there's— it's the kind of thing that people who don't like transit who have a long way to go would go, and it's like $50 each way. Um, you don't need the crest. There is no— not that I know. I think you press it in. You press it. Um, uh, there are— I, I don't know if there's a bus that goes from Victoria to Mill Bay or like that route, the Malahat part of it. But not necessarily. You've seen the Malahat. Like, it is— it's— that would be an interesting bus. Bus route, but there is lots of bus coverage from like Langford on out. And then there's, um, Duncan— there's a bus that goes Duncan-Nanaimo-Parksville, Parksville-Nanaimo-Duncan. And I think there's also— there might be one Duncan to Vic, but they're not commuter buses. They're, they're longer buses, and I think to get folks who don't have cars around, like seniors and stuff. But it's good, it's progress. We need more buses. We should have— Jocelyn makes me sick. Oh, come on, that's because we had to find a break in the trees and the one we found took us out onto the highway.

There is a joke answer to what's in an Animo bar, but I didn't want to go there because everyone knows the joke and it's not even true anymore. Which Animo bar is your favorite? We did a taste testing, which you can find on this YouTube channel that you're watching us on right now. Um, uh, we had different— oh no, it was a taste test where you picked. Yeah. And, uh, Jocelyn picked Serious Coffee, which kind of was the dark horse, actually.

It's still actually really good. Um, and they are handmade. Yeah. Um, the— I— we've since tried a few more of the Nanaimo bars on the Nanaimo Bar Tour and the ones we got from White Rabbit, which is a coffee shop in the Old City Quarter, um, was really good, but it was a bit more trying to be fancy and elevated and a little bit crumblier. But I think it was a bit less sweet too. So if you want to try it and you don't want your teeth to hurt, um, try the one at White Rabbit. And the White Rabbit is in our old railway station, which— so so it's kind of a cool building with an amazing patio. And then there's one we had with our niece down at, um, the ice cream shop right next to Newfoundland Toonanaimo, which is like a tourist shop, um, right on the harbor. There's an ice cream shop slash cafe that has an Anaimo bar and an Anaimo bar ice cream. And then an Anaimo bar is really good there, but You want it to be sweet.

You want it to hurt. Like if you, if you don't, if you have a Nanaimo bar and you are not diagnosed with diabetes within a week of it, you're eating the wrong Nanaimo bar.

I suggest when you have a Nanaimo bar, if you're gonna eat it yourself, have a glass of milk or a coffee with it. Because you need something to like cut it down. They're correcting me about the bus. Yeah, yeah. Bus it goes Victoria to Duncan for sure. Bus 66 is the bus from Vic to Duncan. Okay, good, good to know.

Does Canada hire associate degree nurses or only BSN nurses? Once again, yes, to be clear, we are not immigration professionals, but—

AD— they're called ADN or whatever they— yes, but you have to already be working. You have to be licensed in your own area. Area, and you have to have work experience to get licensed here. Canadian Nurse Art, she's, she's authoritative, but that's what I've learned.

Um, Tara Mitchell, I might— my mother made Nanaimo bars with unsweetened chocolate on top.

Oh, I would like that. No, no, because you— the sweet, sweet custard and the semi-sweet base, that would be really nice. I think, Diane, don't listen to this asshole. But look, there's—

you're either having a Nanaimo bar or you're not. This is the argument that I have with poutine. It's like, there's, there's, there's french fries, cheese curd, and gravy. That's poutine. You do anything else with it, it has ceased being poutine.

Okay, merci, you have triggered my mini rant about safety. Um, tiny home villages, I'm not really sure what you mean by that, but So I— safety is really hard to talk about. It's subjective, right? It is safe here. I have never in my life felt unsafe walking in the dark. No. I do think there are in big cities, there are scarier places. There's a couple of streets in Nanaimo that there's homeless folks on and people in active addiction, and that's uncomfortable for sure. But this is a very safe place, and guns are not allowed. So the likelihood of you being surprised, shot in the back— no, zero— or, you know, tackled, attacked, assaulted with a gun is very, very low. And I just— I don't know how to answer those questions because there's no way to answer answer it without being like, "Of course it is," and they're like, "How do you know?" And the—

and I've just done research on this for a video that I haven't put out yet, but the, the violent crime rate in Canada has been declining. The serious crime rate in Canada has been declining. The violent crime rate in Nanaimo has been declining. The violent— the serious crime rate, which includes non-violent stuff, but serious like theft, has also been declining. So if you're here, it's about 33% less than the crime rate in America. So if if you hear like people saying it's very— it's not very safe, Canada is not safe anymore, they're just— politics aside, they're factually inaccurate.

I don't think that's what she's asking. She's from Baltimore.

Yeah, I know, I went off on something else.

Uh, maybe just not now because I went off. Sorry, I took your thunder. Um, but Tod has a great website. It's not really meant for Americans, but you could have a look at it. It's got great information. It's called canadaisnotbroken.org.

Um, because someone is squatting on .ca.

Oh, I know. Places I've specialized in going to specifically worked as mental health— that's amazing, Milo, and I'm super, super glad to hear that. Um, what's always frustrated me, and I was afraid during the first infusion, um, that last year that people would be off by the fact that, yes, like many, many cities in North America, the opioid crisis has affected people and they are sick and they need help and they are humans and nobody is illegal. And, and Tod had a really great answer to that, and that was, these are adults. Yeah, homelessness happens. We're not gonna hide anybody. And the thing I'm so proud about the Nine is that our city has an official policy that they do not kick homeless people or addicts out like some cities on the island do. Like, they don't, they don't move them along because it looks unkempt or messy. They do have to disband encampments because of risks, and that could be debated whether that ethical and needed, but they do take down encampments, but they don't force people out.

But you know, we are a city of more than 100,000 people. There are going to be homeless people here. There's going to be drugs here. Like, you have to— you're not an adult if you don't understand that.

So yeah, we're not perfection. This is not some kind of like Mecca. It's— yeah, stuff happens here too, but we have of the fact that there's no guns really helps.

Yeah, um, like, we, we have crime, we have homeless people, but we have less of it than the US is the short answer to.

Here's some. I'm 71, female, and have lived in Toronto, the largest city in the country. I've never been afraid to walk the streets at night by myself. Maxi, I was there for training one year for a week, and I wheeled around at night all the time, and I I, I have to admit, like, there's something about being like 4 feet off the ground, like total height, and in a wheelchair that I feel like a lot of the folks on the street, they like look at me like, you're one of us. Like, they, they feel a little bit protective of me. But I feel like it's just not as, um, like, naida as well. Like, it, it is definitely— oh my God, Milo, there's so much. If you want to work in mental health and substance abuse or substance use, we have— there is work for you. And, and I would suggest you go to the hospitals where it's unlikely that the job would be in the hospital, but Island Health would give you a chance to like connect.

This is the funniest comment I've ever seen. I just saw the back of my new wheelchair when I got it. It says Quickie, and I get a lot of crap about it.

Yeah, my first wheelchair was a Quickie when I was a child. I was 9 years old, and I sadly had to learn at the tender age of 10— that poor brain— what quickie meant. I had just been cheap, right?

It just meant cheap, right? Oh, that quickie. Oh, I see. Oh, sorry, but I thought you meant culturally among wheelchair people. No, no, no, it's like A fast sexual encounter.

No, no, I— yeah, I had to explain a joke to you, Tod.

Wow. I know that joke. I know that. But now I thought, I thought the whole thing— I thought the whole reason you hated Quickies was because they were a cheap brand. I know, it's—

they're just— Quickies for a long time were a brand of wheelchair that did not get sporty like all the other brands were getting sporty. And, um, you know, I was a young person. I wanted a sporty chair. I wanted to look cool. And Quickies, I'm, I'm surprised too that you have one because I thought they were all gone. I thought they got swallowed up by Invacare. And speaking of a name that should not be a thing, Invacare used to be called Invalid Care. No. Yeah. And they had to come up with an alternative explanation for it because they were— it was so embarrassing. And now they're called the— they say Innovations in Healthcare. Oh God. Personally, I've never felt threatened by an addict or homeless person and work night shifts. Yeah, um, wow, good job, Maxi. I don't— I don't walk that early, but you will find in IMO has places you can do do that. There's like a couple of blocks on Old Victoria Road and the first part of the Old Island Highway, the, the 2 blocks south of the downtown. I wouldn't go there. It's just, it's just not pretty, that's all. It's not— there's not a lot that's gonna threaten you. Um, it's just a lot of people in the Fenty Fold, you know. Um, that's some Gattaca shit. What? What's some Gattaca shit? That was a great movie.

That was a good—

I want to see that again. Yeah. Um, what? Oh, I'm trying to like— they're all responding to something. Tod, so naive and innocent. This seems so much better for me. Uh, I don't know, someone was responding to something. I'm the size of a 9-year-old. I'm the size of a fat 9-year-old. So I'm— I am exactly 5 foot 0, and my— and that's in my legs. I like to say my torso is like—

I like to say you're 5 feet long because you don't stand up, so you're not tall. We can only measure you if you're lying down, so you're 5 foot long.

Yeah, I'm exactly— and I'm, um, seated, I'm 4 feet. Um, someone tell me what the Gattaca shit comments about.

No, they were just saying it's, it's referencing the movie.

Uh, but why? What is it? What is Gattaca? That's why I'm asking. My party days are mostly over. I'll stay up too late while camping for Ren Faire. That's awesome. We have, um, a society, an SCA, like Society for Creative Anachronism, and there's a LARPing bus place here where they used to live down the street from us. Yeah, fuck it. I took an unrestricted— my restricted and unrestricted firearms training at the local Fish and Game Club. They're stringent. They are very cool. It— Shasta, was that at the Nanaimo Fish and Game Club? They're cool. Yeah, it sucks about Greyhound, man, that has disenfranchised so many people. It really has.

I'm surprised that there hasn't been like, it hasn't been picked up again.

Oh yeah, yeah, naidohan, okay, I get it, thank you. It is some Gadotka shit. The fact that they called disabled people invalids in the first place is Gadotka shit. The, this of Harewood. What was I gonna say? Yeah, so I want to say, I don't know if this is something that would happen in the US, but so because healthcare in BC is somewhat centralized, like specialized care, there are lots of people in the north, like Prince George, Terrace, etc., who need to get to at least Kelowna or Kamloops for healthcare. And sometimes they can't drive themselves or they don't have the money to fly. So there is a health bus up north. They run a bus that goes back and forth between the most common referral hospitals to get people from the north to their specialist appointments or their doctor visits or whatever. And it's all accessible and everything. And, uh, and there is also a bus, I think, run from Abbotsford to Surrey for that reason as well.

So hey, Medic! Oh, yo, Medic is rocking the— is that 6-month? That's the 6-month banner, I think. Or maybe that's—

it almost looks like a Rachel Maddow background with the tear. It does.

Yeah, yeah. I don't think I've seen a purple, a purple banner on you, so you, you are a long time YouTube member. So thank you for your continued support.

Yeah, thank you so much to the YouTube supporters. You guys, you were the OG supporters that got all this thing started, like Sue, like Red Shasta.

There's a few people in here.

I was today trying to get a youth from Nelson to Vancouver. Stupid difficult because— oh no, that's— it is rough. It's really a huge barrier. Um, I, I truly think I think that we should have put some of our gas tax money into fixing, like, at least some core bus service to link the major cities. And then at least they could have made sure it was accessible, right? Like, you can't get to Whistler with a wheelchair. Unless you have a car. Um, and the lowest price to get there, because none of the shuttles to Whistler from Vancouver are accessible, um, the lowest price you'd pay is $700. So it's just not a thing. I'll look up the Shire of Heartwood. Um, I have said so many things, I don't know what you're agreeing with. Sorry. Thank you, medic. Yeah, thank you. Um, they dropped the ball on the bus programs. Yeah, sorry, Myla. That's probably Indigo what you're saying too. The, the train network— we have train tracks we could use. I am a huge, huge, huge fan of the pipe dream that is restarting the, uh, E&N Railway. The, um, there's a railway line from Esquimalt, which is down by Victoria, to Nanaimo. I think it keeps going as far as Courtney, um, and it was a freight line, I think. And I was told by my grandmother that it used to be a passenger rail, uh, out to Sydney.

But, um, fun, fun fact about the, about the little, uh, icons for YouTube members with the bar behind them. So fun fact number 1, they are a bar above your head for the first year, and in your second year, the whole background is that color. But more importantly, the colors go in the order of your head, not their head. The colors go in the order of, um, of weapon rarity in Fortnite. That is the colors. It's, it's green, it's gray, green, blue. That's cool. Purple. And then I think like gold color, and then it repeats with a full background. And that's the order of weapon rarity. Uh, yeah, believe in public transportation.

Yes, amen. Um, yes, bring back that train. Um, I can't see any of what you're talking. So Kelly, if you look, see Medic on the Move has a little picture of Tod at the end, and there's a purple line right behind Tod's head. Those are little icons that you get for subscribing for a certain period of time. And the purple color, that, that's yellow if you have been on it the longest time, purple for second longest, etc.

And they're basically, they're like a, they're like a place where, they're a place where if you're like, I hate the word fans, but they're, they are only given to those people. You might call them OnlyFans.

Mary! Woo! Everybody give Mary some love. She's a new healthcare worker from the US. She's an NP, and I'll say in Fraser. I don't know if you want me to mention where. So everybody say hi, Mary! Welcome!

Mods, please ban Canadian Nurse 74. Thank you.

What's so teeny? Oh, hahaha. Oh man, high five!

No, Tod Maffin's never been told that before, and you should know.

Hey, Mary!

Oh, we actually do have a mod. PJ, do not ban, do not ban. That was a joke. Well, thank you for— I forgot that PJ is an actual legitimate mod in this channel. It was a compliment, it was a compliment, it was a compliment.

You gotta have an attention span if you're gonna like keep your friends.

I forgot that you were actually a mod and I didn't know you were in here. I was just kidding. I forgot. And I'm like, here's PJ like waiting.

I'm like, why is there a shield? Them in action.

Why is there a shield beside their name?

A hoot for a hoot.

I need a hoot. All right, um, I'm done. I'm done my job. 500 cards, I think, didn't I? Oh shit, really? Man, I thought that one—

you wanted to sign all of them.

I did.

I, I have to be the practical one in this marriage. There's a lot of these.

So if you don't know what we're doing, um, we— so these are little cards that we are putting in if you get merch. Um, we have stickers and we have shirts.

See ya, Mercy.

We have— thank you again, Mercy. We have Relentless Decency shirts, we have I Stand With Canada shirts and sticker stickers. And we have Mirror Falls shirts and stickers and also sweatshirts for all of these. God summons the banhammer. And someone asked this before and I forgot to— oh, Omnivore's here too! And I forgot to mention— Omnivore's been— we've been chatting. Someone asked about the merch store, is it back? It is back. Here's what happened. The original merch store that I had, which was in November-ish, early Um, I found out that they were shipping from the US, which was not what they told me they would do. Um, and it's kind of against the whole Buy Canada thing, so I, uh, canceled the contract with them and shut down the merch store. Oh, and 2 weeks before Christmas is a terrible time to shut down a merch store, but we did it anyway. And I've spent that time looking for an all genuine, all Canadian merch supplier, and I settled on this company called Kindred Coast. If you're on Vancouver Island, you know them already. They the most comfortable shirts, and it is all Canadian. These shirts, they don't buy blanks. What? I'm telling a story. They don't buy blanks. They, they just buy the fabric. They sew, they make their own shirts, they screen print it all. They ship it, they ship it there from, from Parksville. All of it happens from Parksville, which is just north of here. Shipped from Canada, made in Canada, printed in Canada, using sustainable—

couple—

using sustainable and so, um, it's a family business too. I have not, I have not officially launched it. They have hoodies as well. I have not officially talked about it, um, on the channel yet because they are waiting for us to get these cards to them, and I'm driving them up there tomorrow, and we are currently signing them.

And we're doing our best to see if we can make a merch shop at the park because, right, we, you have to get a special license for it, which shouldn't be a big problem. Problem, but that there goes our strategy of keeping our heads down and not getting insurance. Yeah. Okay, I wanted to talk in that, but 'cause people are saying stuff. Thanks, Randy, for getting in there. I hope you don't get fired or anything. Let's see, oh, expat, Monica, it was you I wanted to respond to. To you. Um, expat Canadian from Vancouver now living in Melbourne.

Melbourne. Melbourne. Um, for 35 years.

Whoa. Can you turn on the fan? Um, sure, give me one second. Um, the— I'm forgetting how to spell my name. Um, I lived for 3 months, Monica, in a place called Moonee Ponds for my practicum, and It was the— well, Connex was not my friend. They messed me a lot getting to my— I was doing a practicum with Monash Uni. I can't, I'm too short. You're gonna have to do it. And so I— and Moonee Ponds was the only place I could find an accessible place to live. And so I took Connex down to Monash and I loved everything about Melbourne except for I wish I'd lived closer to where I was going to school because I spent a lot of time on the train. Um, Mooney Ponds is this little suburb with the cutest name. Um, that's literally the name, Mooney Ponds. Okay, sorry, I'll stop about that. Um, Omnivore, I'm so glad Canadian Nurse is still there too. She's like our sanity friend. Um, good night to all the folks that went, that said goodbye. I know, or not. Um, you probably already gone. Kindred the Snowboard People too. I don't think they do snowboards. They— the family business is t-shirt printing basically. They're at the farmer's market. If you've ever been to the Cedar Market, Kathy, that is— they sell it that one and at at the legendary Nanaimo Night Markets. So, um, you love Parksville. I— it is— I have discovered what to a lot of mainlanders what, um, I don't know if you are, but what Kelowna was to me as a kid. Kelowna was where we would go and spend summer vacations with our cousins who were from Alberta and Parksville has the same vibe as 1980s Kelowna did for me. Um, there is snowboarding. There is snowboarding at, um, uh, on Mount Washington, which is up north of Courtney. So it would be like hour and a half from Nanaimo, I think. Obviously not in April, but And if you want to ski or snowboard and you don't want to have to drive to the mainland, there is a place to do it. It's a little eccentrically, like, um, independently owned resort, um, who is owned by kind of an eccentric fella, I've been told. Um, are you going, Lord of Havoc? Good night. Thanks for—

good night—

being with us. That's Parksville in a nutshell. Yeah, it's what it feels like to me. SOS is the Saks Fifth Avenue of thrift stores. Oh, is that one in the, um, in Parksville? The SOS Society of Services or something? They like do all the things in Parksville, I've learned. Um, the charity SOS. Did I live in Kelowna? No, I grew up— I would— in Edmonton until I was 5. And then New Westminster till I was 21. And so we used to go to Kelowna, because Kelowna is full of Albertans. When I was really young, we would— both families would go to Kelowna for 2 weeks in the summer. And when we moved to Vancouver— New Westminster, it was is like the halfway point between Edmonton and New Westminster was Kelowna. So we kept doing it for a couple more years. Will there be reps from the Dragon Boat Club? Possibly, and if they are there and they so choose to identify themselves, they will have a sticker that says, "I know about dragon boating." And so you can chat them up.

There won't be a booth though. No.

We just don't have the labor for that. Nanaimo Minor Hockey Association is great for kids. Thomas, if you're coming, we will make a sticker for you to wear that says, ask me about Nanaimo Minor Hockey. Yeah, I just told someone about Nanaimo Minor Hockey in our healthcare worker Discord because we get a lot of parents who are like, what is there to do for my kid? I'm like, hockey! Oh, oops, that looks like a cat. Someone specifically— yes, it does. Um, someone specifically asked, um, about hockey, so I had to learn about hockey in Nanaimo. The Nanaimo minor hockey is the Clippers, right? Or is it all— yeah, all of the different levels of hockey? I can't remember. The curling club, we've been to the curling club many times. I almost joined Just for— yeah, um, you should. I think you would like it. I should.

There are— that I— what I like about it is I like the idea of the sport. It seems a lot of camaraderie. The only thing they need to do for me to join it is to figure out, and I'm sure they can work this out, how I can play it without leaving the house. So if they— once they figure that out, then I'm all for it.

Um, you know The whole goal was for Tod to have friends and be social, but he wants to do that with— he just recruited a bunch of Americans for that. That's all. We like to joke that we've never had as many close friends in the NIMO until we started importing them from the US.

This is all just to make friends, and if you guys want to work here in the public healthcare system too, that's cool with us, but really it's about friends for us.

Kyle Taylor says, name dropping our glass in Parksville. Damn it, my dad is the go-to. Just scribble over it, they're Sharpies. Sorry, I just feel I sound really shrill. Sorry, I don't mean that. Um, uh, Neda. Neda, are you originally from Iran? I knew a Neda and that was— she was Iranian. Um, Milo, I worked for Alberta Transportation. That's cool. Um, they don't gen— True, true. Um, good night Nadine. I'm looking for the other people born in Edmonton. I was born in Quebec, but I grew up my first born in Montreal.

She came out of the womb smoking, pretty much.

That is such a dumb and inaccurate stereotype. You're thinking of the stereotype of Parisians. The only thing that I got from, other than my birthright, from Quebec is my name, Jocelyne.

But— My whole family is from Quebec. That was an imitation of my family.

I will be with you about that, Shasta. Not reading comments on Nanaimo Facebooks is self-care. Geocaching is pretty great. There's mountain biking in Nanaimo is wicked. There's some amazing places to— just so full of nature and gnarly amazing trails.

And if my mom is watching, can I just say thank you for naming me with 3 letters. Well, 4 letters, but I changed it. But thank you that my name is short, because if my name was like Congolia Roberto, this would be a very difficult evening. My hand's already hurting. Congolia Roberto?

Does that mean I have to change your name? That's too long. Um, I was gonna say, um, Mary, you were saying your kids would be in that club? The guaranteed— there is a minor hockey hockey club or several in where you are. I don't know if you want me to mention that, so I'm just going to say in the Fraser Health region. Minor hockey is like a cult in Canada.

Oh yeah, hockey is pretty much your—

It's like, it's a religion. From a good perspective, it's just like, it's a self-organizing thing. In Canada. I shouldn't say that because that undermines— like, it takes a lot to organize that stuff. So, but it's just something everybody, um, everybody's into or supports. Um, oh, the club that Tod wanted to be in, which he could stay home and be a member of. Well, you could make a club together. Um, neda coffee has narco Narcolepsy. Really?

Oh, wouldn't that be such a great name for, for a, a line of coffee? Narcolepsy. That would be a great name for coffee.

It's not, it's not enough to be a joke, and to— and it's factually incorrect, so I don't like it. And you know how people say that something like scratches their brain when it's really interesting, or has an interesting sound. When— what is disruptive for my brain is if something is either— if it's factually inaccurate, like, like really inaccurate, and it's not a joke. I just— I'm like, why would you say that? Yes, I'm great fun at parties. And if you got dogs, hit me up for all the tea on the off-leash parks. True. There is a very cool off-leash park by the NIMO SPCA that you can be a member of, and it's not for reactive dogs, obviously. It's a— they— I think you have to have like a behavior test or something, but it's such a nice little space, and our reactive dog is not allowed. But, um, are you looking for more than a Western medicine practitioner? Jamie, um, uh, traditional Chinese medicine and naturopathy are, um, they are disciplines that are, uh, used. They're sort of actively a part of the system, but they're private. So usually Usually people pay for visits to those providers through their benefit plans. They're like employee-based benefit plans. But the ones that we don't tend to is homeopathy. It's like there, I'm sure there are some, but it's not as much of a thing and it doesn't tend to have private benefit plan coverage. Well, I have all kinds of feelings about it, but I'm trying to keep my nose clean. Mary, were you talking about the same thing? Trump makes my brain itch. Yeah, no, not in a good way, I hope. Ah, healthcare worker covers a huge umbrella of terms. True, but the thing I would say though is that For us, for our movement, we— movement like project, not powwow movement. For ours, we try to stay pretty close to the healthcare disciplines that the healthcare system needs, like the public system, either in hospital or in the clinic, because because what we're trying to do is help fill chronic gaps in the system that benefits us all. And I certainly appreciate like more massage therapy, more for people who celebrate the chiropractic and the naturopathy, but I don't— what we really want is to keep our healthcare system working and strong and available for everyone who needs it. For— and that is everybody. I should probably stop. Um, I saw a news clip about the American healthcare workers who come to BC and the actual amount of crazy in the comments. Yeah, it's such a shame. There's just rampant bullshit. And I know what happens.

What happens is that it goes to— it gets picked up by usually American right-wing Facebook page or Facebook group usually, and then right-wing Albertans too, or right-wing Albertans, and then, and then they all just kind of like dive bomb on it for an hour or two. Um, it's very bizarre. Um, made my brain edge dang What they don't know, at least on my sites, that I think find hysterical that they don't know it. So none of this is, none of this is my, is our day job. I have a day job and it is, I run an agency that handles social media engagement and moderation. I've been doing it for 20 years now, 15 years. So, and I have an agency that employs people for it. The I have very powerful tools at my disposal, very expensive tools at my disposal, the same tools that companies like Netflix and Disney use, very, very high-end enterprise tools to moderate my social media channels. And so they all pile in thinking that they're all very, very clever calling me libtard or whatever, and this software just hides all of it. They can all see it. This is the great The great thing is that the person who posts it can still see it. They think it made it to the channel, and all their little buddies can see it too. But the real world cannot see any of it. It's like they never even posted there. And it gets filtered out, so we don't even see it, because it's essentially not there. But they think that it got up there, and so they feel very proud of themselves for sticking it to the libs. And literally nobody sees all of their effort.

Jokes on them, I'm sorry. Socialist.

Yeah, I benefit. Um, I want you to know your sobriety video reached someone when they needed it most. Oh, I'm very glad. Oh, I'm very glad. I should do more of those. I do, by the way, I do have another, um, another, uh, social media account just about recovery. Um, it's on TikTok and the account name is You Can Recover. So if you're on TikTok, go look for the account called You Can Recover I haven't posted to it for a couple of years, but I did a bunch of videos there about recovery. I also did some videos that showed Russell Brand, 'cause he was at least involved in the recovery community and had some good things to say. I just wanna go on the record as saying— Yeah, I just wanna go on the record saying that I posted that before he went crazy, and so he's gone a little bit nuts since then. But yeah, TikTok, and look for You Can Recover. Recover. But I'm really glad to hear that, that, that video helped.

I wanted to say to Kyle, community services up, up here, like PAACL, which is probably Parksville Association for Community Living, and also there's the Nanaimo Association for Community Living— those are nonprofit societies that do day programs and support programs for people with developmental and intellectual disabilities. Disabilities. I believe there are similar organizations that support people with mental illness as well. And they're really important parts— ways that people with disabilities can live in the community. And they do need— there are different kinds of care workers that work there. And I believe they are all on the list for priority healthcare workers. Unfortunately, they're not gonna get, it's not the kind of job that can get you the, what's it called, Provincial Nominee Program, but it is in demand to the point that if you did Express Entry, you probably would get it. You don't need a job guaranteed to do Express Entry, which is like skilled worker program. But it isn't like a highly paid job, sadly. Thank you, Cathy.

I'm glad you like it. I'm enjoying the research on that series. If you are not familiar with it, I'm doing a series on replacing American technology, like social media and email and stuff like that, with Canadian versions. It's right here on YouTube. If you click on the playlist button on my channel, there's one called Canadian Tech Replacements or something like that. It's in there. Mary, my husband loves to hear you speak now, following Mirror Falls. Excellent, thank you, Mary.

I have to do my laundry.

I'm very proud of Mirror Falls.

And take the dog out.

I need to take a break, my hand hurts.

Yeah, and I gotta take the dog out. Okay.

So we'll take a little break from the signing of the things. Yeah, I'm very pleased with the— Turn edge light on? Turn on and customize edge light to illuminate yourself in dimly lit environments. Okay. Edge light, what?

Literally nothing happened. Is that if you're streaming from your bed in the dark with your laptop?

I guess. Like, nothing changed at all. Hey Siri, change the stairs light to red. Much better. Yeah, I really enjoyed writing Mirror Falls. There's more to write, obviously, since since it's the end of Season 1. I know where it's going to go. I know where the story goes. I know how Season 2 is going to open. I know the first episode. But I have not started writing them yet. I will start writing them once the infusion event is over, so in the summer, early summer, I'll devote to writing it, and I hope to have Season 2 out, or Season 2 start rolling out anyway, at the end of the the summer or early fall, but there are bigger secrets ahead for sure. I also pitched it to CBC, so we'll see if that goes anywhere.

Probably not, but, um, what you should do is flood the CBC with requests.

No, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that. They would hate me. Um, Mary says she's on a provincial nomination. That's Really good. Yeah, that is very helpful.

Fraser Health got like right quick about her provincial nomination, so she's an NP. It's like nurses, NPs, and doctors get it tend to.

Yeah. Retired to Mexico. I'm looking to sell my house. My daughter's still— oh God, our dog is— whenever my dog sees— our dog sees another dog, she goes Crazy. Churro! It's like she goes out, she sees another dog, and then loses her fucking mind. It's crazy. Third generation, it's a horrible place right now. The premier is doing changes to the healthcare. I mean, Alberta has always been its own sort of its own world, for good and bad. You know, I think it's kind of on the bad. I think I think it's a bad place currently, but, you know, we'll see what happens. All of this talk about referendum and separation and all of it is noise. They can't separate. They won't separate. It will not happen. It's not— there's no legal framework to permit it to happen, like, realistically. So this is all performative. And what it does is it gives American commentators, American right-wing commentators who are looking for an excuse to talk about, "Well, Canada's not perfect. Here, just look at Alberta. They want to leave the country." No, they don't want to leave the country. Like, it's silly. Proud of Mirror Falls. Had mixed feelings about some behind-the-scenes stuff. Yeah, but you were great not revealing too much. Yes. Yeah, Mirror Falls takes a turn near the end. But I will say that it is not as dark as it sounded. That's all I will say about that. To bear with it. It's like I told people to bear with me with the Mary George character, who is an indigenous elder, and who through most of the series sounds like a crazy person. And I got flack for it. "Why did you pick an indigenous person to be the crazy person?" It was random. It was like, it could have been any character. It just happened to However, as we find out at the end of the season, it turns out she's actually the smartest person in the town. So that's why I have just like— just hold out. There's more to these stories to come. So yeah. All right, let's see. I looked through my ribbons. I don't have red ribbon to make a lanyard. If you could— you don't have to have a lanyard to come. It's not gonna be required for admission. No No one will ask you for it or anything like that. It is just for helping the town, the city here in Nanaimo, see how many of you there are, and also so you can identify each other when you're out and about in stores and things like that. So it's a buff. If you're a video game player, it's a buff. It gives you 50 XP. And makes you more apparent to the NPCs. If you haven't got one and you want to support a local Canadian company, there is a Canadian company there in the Maritimes somewhere, and they make red lanyards out of hockey skate laces. And they are taking orders until this weekend, and then at the end of the weekend they've stopped because they're getting so many orders for the infusion that they are going to stop. But you can order it, and I made a little short link. It's lanyard.nanaimoinfusion.com. Region.ca. They're lovely people. They were like, where are all these orders for red lanyards coming out of the blue from? They've sold, just to tell you how many there are, how big this event could be, they've sold 80, they've had 80 lanyard orders already. And most people will not, A, get a lanyard, and B, get a lanyard from this company.

Etsy is just about the most expensive way to get a lanyard. Yeah. But it's amazing.

Yeah, exactly.

It's more in shipping for the lanyard than in the lanyard. Have you considered contacting Zoomer?

They have a radio show with old programs at 10 PM Monday to Friday. The station is owned by Moses. I know who Moses is. I've never met him, but he's a legend in broadcasting, of course. I have not. I don't think— we don't have it here. We have CIL 650 for the older people, and locals call it C-Nile 650.

I don't think it's around anymore.

Oh, it might not be. Like, all the AM radio stations are going. But no, I will say this. I'm— can I say this? I can't say this. I can't say this yet. I can't say this yet. I'm talking to— I'm talking to an entity that is not CBC about developing a radio show. I will leave it at that. The hydro glitch every morning at 9:00 AM— there's a reason, there's a reason that happens. Like, power goes out in small towns all the time, but does power always go out at the exact same time every day? Why does that happen? There are lots of little There are lots of— sprinkled throughout Mirror Falls are lots of little hints that I hope paid off a little bit at the end. That when you got to the cliffhanger reveal at the end of season 1, that you are able to think back, and maybe even want to go back and listen back, and realize, "Oh, wait a minute. That was not just innocent." There's a reason that the security code for the gas station is 577. 73. Lanyard's an excuse to craft. Yeah, there we saw some great funky lanyards. Um, I actually ordered a lanyard from that company, from that maker in the Maritimes, but this is the one I had last year. I think we got it at Canadian Tire, the dollar store, or something like that. Can I help you, sir? It's not food. Well, come here and say hello to the people if you're going to be rude. Come here, come here and say hello to the fucking Asshole. Okay, the cat, the dog are having a thing. Yeah, it's on Etsy. Yeah, so you can go to lanyard.nanaimoinfusion.ca if you want to get one. Ordered a lanyard with Red Shasta. Oh yeah, sorry, thank you. Thank you, Shasta. I forgot to mention that this company will make— they will make you a pin with whatever words you want on it. So I secretly ordered one for my mom that says Tod's Mom. You can order— you have two of them. So. Now I know what I'm listening to when I sort through boxes. Yes! Yeah, it's— I'm very proud of Mirror Falls. I am very proud of Mirror Falls. And my favorite episode? The one I'm most proud of from a story point of view, not a sound design point of view, definitely end of season 1. Last episode of season 1. The last 4 minutes of the last episode of Season 1 is the sound design winner. But the episode about the— about Danielle the magician mechanic who has a magic trick on stage go spectacularly wrong, that's the story I'm most proud of strictly from a storytelling model. Getting the fight— the try-fail cycles right and having an objective desire, having an inciting incident, having several acts, having her attempt to reach the object of desire fail spectacularly, try again in a more comedic way. Kind of the model of— at least the Robert McKee model of storytelling. That one felt closest to it. I think it's the most compelling narrative of the series. But it's not the most emotional one. If you want to cry, there are places you might cry too. "Part of the Canadian Tire conspiracy." Yes, yes, that's right. All right. Yeah, thank you, Milo. Thank you for coming. Yes, absolutely get the dogs lanyards. Absolutely. You're gonna say hello to the nice people now? Come here, come here. No, no, no, no, no. Yes, sorry, no more spoilers. Say hello to the nice people. See, you are such an asshole tonight. What is your problem? "I love the snippets of actual Canadian history." Yes, thank you. Yeah, and that's the other thing is that Mirror Falls has— it's fictional, but it references real things that happen in the world. And there are some bonus episodes that talk about those moments of history, and they talk about the real world. So that's why I think CBC would like it, because it's sort of Vinyl Cafe, like Wobbegong Mishima-kun-esque in terms of, you know, it's a small town and it's the stories of a small town. But it also, like, talks about Canada and Canadian history. Like, there's a whole episode about the Maritime Museum. And I spent a lot of time talking about, what's his name, Kalashnikov, who was a war hero in Canada. And in Nanaimo, in fact, from Nanaimo. The Nanaimo Airport named after him. And that one was a ton of research, holy moly, but super fun. People have cried, so yeah, you may not want to listen in the car. It's all because— it's not particularly that I'm a good writer, it's that I'm good at finding music, finding scoring music that is emotionally manipulative. If you're crying, it's because of the music selection, which I also take credit for. I didn't make the music, but I found the music. There's a business in downtown Victoria called Regional Assembly of Text where you can get text buttons made. Oh, cool. My former favorite, former spy, has entered the chat. What? You like the historical stuff? Good. Yeah, I really enjoyed writing it. Can I show you guys? Oh, I don't think it'll let me. I don't think it'll let me show you. Or I can maybe put it on my phone. I have this— I had to come up— I had to create an app, a special app, Sorry, hang on a second if I can find it. So is it— oh yeah, I do have it. So Mirror Falls, unlike— oh my god, they are chatting again. Hang on, I have to mute. How do I mute? How do I mute? Mute for 1 hour. Mute for 1 hour. Okay. So I had this— Mirror Falls, unlike something something like Lake Wobegon or Vinyl Cafe, where there kind of are characters. Like, with Vinyl Cafe, there's David Morley and the kids, but that's kind of all— you are aware of other people, but they don't play for— it's really about David Morley. Whereas Mirror Falls is much more of a— it's a different protagonist. A different person from the town carries the story in each episode. And so I had to make sure that I had all of the people in the right order in terms of their age and in terms of their town, or when they came to town, when they didn't. And so I had to do— I have this app that shows me— how do I— yeah. It shows me when people showed up in town to make sure that they— to make sure that I didn't screw up the timing of it. Because I originally had Guy buying the restaurant when he was 7. I hadn't done the math to realize that at the year that I claimed he came to town and the age that I told people that he was, when you actually match those up, he would have been 7 years old. So yeah, maybe ensemble cast might be there, maybe. Anyway, so it's a great little app, and it helped me enormously. Helped me enormously. Oh, the ring light thing is on now! Oh, how crazy! Oh, I have to take a screenshot of that. It's— I don't know what app this is. Oh, now I can't turn the damn thing off, of course. Can I turn this off? I don't want edge light. There it is. That's so cool. Oh. Yeah, okay. It wouldn't let me take a screenshot of it. That's interesting. Anyway, yeah, Ensemble Cast might be the right thing. I'm the one you were talking to about the Canadian Tire conspiracy video giving you good military accuracy. For stuff. Oh, thank you! Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, now I remember. Perfect. Yes, and I got help with, um, from a couple of other people who are currently in the military as well, um, for Mirror Falls because there it involves military stuff. Um, don't let me leave without trying an Anima Bar. No problem. I love— that was another thing I loved about Mirror Falls, was Stephanie and Sam. I got a bit teary. I'm glad. I know not many people will have understood that reference, but there is a bit of a tip of the hat to Stuart MacLean through the characters Stephanie and Sam. Stephanie is the— in Mirror Falls' world, she is the art teacher at the school, music and art teacher at the school. In the crossover world, fictionally, she is the daughter of Dave and Morley, who Stuart MacLean invented in the Vinyl Cafe series. So I'm not going to mention Dave or Morley in Mirror Falls because that's Stuart's world, but I wanted something to carry over, so I have— I hope that it would be okay. So Yeah, so I pulled a little piece of Stuart's world into Mirror Falls. And I would like to think he would be okay with that. There's also a bit of Lake Wobegon, News from Lake Wobegon— what's the name of the show? Prairie Home Companion in there as well. A character in the last episode episode. Or is it second to last episode? Anyway, there's a character named Garrison. Oh my god, Kelly. Yes, Kelly. I have stopped. Honestly, I don't know why. What is the little pic behind your name? Nita, that's because you're a member. That's because you are a supporting member of my YouTube channel, which helps us pay for a lot of the work that we're doing. And so that is because you are a supporting member. And so you folks get the little pic. It's a pic of my head. And the color behind you, the bar at the top of that icon, changes color. The longer you go, the— like, the longer you are a member, the different colors get in there. There. It's actually a great little place. Was the most emotionally satisfying episode. Thank you. Also emotionally manipulative music. I worked so hard. Sorry, Kelly, this is not a spoiler. Kelly, don't worry. I worked so hard on the last— I want to say 20 seconds of that episode. I probably spent 3 hours in the audio design of the last 20 seconds of that episode because there was a— it's scored by some piano, by a very simple piano music, but I needed the piano music to back out a little and yet be more emotionally present. Kind of hard to describe. And kind of have it build. And it ended on just one piano note. Right at the very emotional apex, it just ended with a ding. And then you hear the car drive off. And I'm very proud of that. Of all of the parts of making Mirror Falls, the sound design is the most fun. And some of it is— like, I'm I mean, gosh, that— the last episode— actually, there were more tracks on the second-to-last episode. But the second-to-last episode closing, there were probably 14 to 16 tracks firing at the same time, all with tiny little sound elements. There was a tiny little stopwatch in there. There was a little— there was a rumble that actually quietly gets louder and louder, which you would only hear if you had good speakers. You would never hear it on a phone. Yeah, there was— thank you, Clang. Thanks for coming. Oh, oh yeah, and Kelly the Nurse is named after our friend Kelly, who is here, is CanadianNurse74. And all of the kind of jokes. The fact that she won, the fact that the fictional Kelly won, uh, won a prize for, uh, for an entertaining sock puppet performance about the dangers of untreated gonorrhea. Kelly, tell me you would not do that presentation. I know you would. So syphilis. So yeah, so Kelly is— Canadian Nurse 74 in here right now is the inspiration behind the character Kelly, Nurse Kelly. All right, I think I'm gonna call it because I am getting tired. Um, and yeah, Kelly, you need to just listen to the damn podcast. Come on. Um, and we're still finding stuff. Jocelyn sent me a TikTok of something on the West Coast that I might be able to work into this story as well. So, hope I'm not dropping a spoiler. "Best part to me was the cyclical nature of the story." True. I was worried it was a little too on the nose. I was worried that people would know immediately where I was going with that when that character, when the visitor character is first introduced, I thought they would think, "Oh, well, this is what's going to happen in the future." But yeah. Laughing helplessly at this "Sakpapakon Nerea" thing. Do you know what that line, that particular sentence reminds me of? Is David Sedaris. David Sedaris has this beautiful rhythm to his writing. That uses very long sentences occasionally, and they're all— they're like unnecessarily descriptive. And so, like, it's not as funny to say she won because she gave a presentation on gonorrhea, but to be able to say she won because she gave an entertaining sock puppet performance on the untreated ramific— on the ramification locations of untreated gonorrhea. Like, I don't know why, it was just— it felt like David Sedaris's style of like kind of building more and more into it. I enjoy that part. That part is really fun. So I don't know, we're talking— we've talked about me like going out to like an Airbnb or something and just like renting it for 2 or 3 days and just like plowing away at writing. So I may do that. I don't know. Anyway, I love David Sedaris too. See if you can find, I think it's on Vimeo, not YouTube. See if you can find the very brief sketch called David Sedaris Orders a Pizza. It is the funniest fucking thing I've seen in my lifetime. Anyway, yeah, so we're going to close the live. Thank you all for coming out. Thank you for those of you who had Super Chats. That was very helpful. We're going to rent tables for the folks at the infusion, and we have to get insurance. Now. So that has helped for sure. If you're still not sure what this is about, the event where we invite people to come to Nanaimo and check it out is down here. That's nanaimoinfusion.ca. If you are in healthcare and you're interested in moving to Canada, there are 38 communities across this country that are dying to meet you and will help you. So yeah. So thank you everyone for coming. PJ, thank you for coming back and being our model. Mod. Thank you, Kelly, for being here. Thank you for all the supporting members, people with your faces. We really do value you as well. And thanks for hanging out with us as we sign— as we sign thank you cards that are going into the— into the merch store orders, which is open now, which is open now at shop.todmaffin.com. I haven't publicly talked about it much because it's still in soft launch, but it is now officially reopened. So reopened, yeah. All right, thanks everybody. Good night.