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In this brief podcast excerpt, Utkarsh Narang explores why sustaining personal change is often harder than initiating it. He references Lisa Broderick’s year‑long research, during which she interviewed top leaders daily, and the resulting book co‑authored with renowned coach Marshall Goldsmith titled Permanence. The conversation emphasizes that lasting change is not a finish‑line event or a New Year’s resolution but a continuous practice of small daily steps throughout a lifetime. The speakers stress a mindset shift toward living in the present, focusing on happiness now, and viewing the process of becoming the future self as the core of permanence.

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