This content was created by Wayne Courreges III, CPM®. This content was uploaded by Wayne Courreges III, CPM®. This is a YouTube podcast episode titled "A Leader's Mindset | Wayne Courreges III on Dragon's Gold Podcast" (created 2025-06-10). The excerpt is a spoken monologue from the episode about leadership and cross-training—drawing on Marine Corps experience—to emphasize that team members should learn the next person's job (the "land the plane" analogy) so they are ready and competent before promotion. The episode features Wayne Courreges III (per the title) and focuses on leadership mindset and career development.
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In the Marine Corps, you're always doing the next person's job, right? Because if you're ever in a combat situation, you're corporal, sergeant, lieutenant. Whoever goes down, that next person has to step up and be just as competent and just as confident in the job and being able to execute. And so all my career, whenever I was managing people, I always had them, even if they're an administrator, doing heavily administrative tasks, they were always doing the next person's job. And there's a saying that I always like to. To say to my team members. Everybody needs to know how to land, land the plane. You don't want to take on a job. You don't want to. You don't want to go up on a plane as captain and not know how to land the plane. So where that analogy was really headed was like my administrator, before they became a manager, before they became whatever the next position was, they had to do that person's job so they can land the plan, the plane safely. The idea of, like, oh, I'm gonna get promoted and then learn the job, to me is just nonsense. Like, it just. If you can learn it, doing the next person's job, whether it's a military setting or commercial setting, and just in personal life, it makes you sharper and much more ready to take on bigger things if you're doing things that are not maybe your pay grade or what you're asked or responsible for, but that's how people really move ahead. And ultimately back to the analogy of landing the plane, able to land the plane when they take that next opportunity.