A conversational YouTube episode hosted by Josh Trent (July 8, 2024) exploring female empowerment with emphasis on bodily autonomy and childbirth. The guest emphasizes women finding their center, honoring personal resonance when choosing birth options (e.g., free birth vs supported birth), and the significant responsibilities women hold during pregnancy — including epigenetic influences and the oxytocin-rich birth experience. The hosts also discuss cultural and intergenerational wounds, medical interactions that can blunt intuition, and the need for men to learn containment and support.
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How do we bring women to the center of empowerment, to where a woman's voice is heard, to where a man can support her? What does that even look like?
I mean, I think it starts with the individual woman being able to tap into her own center and to feel what is alignment, what is resonance for her. And from that place, learning about everything that's available to her on the spectrum and, and being able to truly choose in her authenticity and her vulnerability in her what truly feels best to her body, to her soul, to her spirit of where she wants to be on that spectrum. I think it's fine to have the whole spectrum available. And I think it's, you know, there's a lot of processes happening in the collective because of someone's wounding. Right, sure. And.
And we're all wounded in some way.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's part of our journey to look at the wound and heal from it.
We're humans, we're like, you know.
Yeah, it's not a savior complex or a superman complex. It's literally just life. Yeah, we're all wounded in some way.
It's totally life. So I really think it's reminding women that, that they do have the choice and to really listen to themselves for their. And it might not be the same birth to birth, it might not be the same day to day, but to really find your center, feel into your center, trust what your body, your soul is saying to you and follow that because it can be very easy to get caught up in the fear mongering on either side.
Yeah.
And, you know, and I've thought about this for myself, like, what kind of birth do I want to have? Like, we're getting married in April. We're going to open the baby portal right away. We'll see when that baby wants to come in. But. And I've thought about birth a lot. I've attended a number of births in my career. Um, I'll probably be at Sarah's birth. Um, and for me, like, the free birth doesn't actually feel the best for me. Like, I want somebody there with me. I want to, I want it to be, you know, centered, led by me. I want, I don't, there's a lot of things I don't want. So I want somebody there with me who's very fine with not doing those things. But, you know, and maybe there's pressure to be like, oh, I should. I definitely have felt pressure to be like, oh, I should free birth. Because that's like the most natural or the most empowering or Whatever. And what it comes back to for me is like, actually, that's not what feels best in my body. Like, I'll actually feel safer just having someone there, someone that I can turn to and be like, is this normal? Like, what's. You know, I just. And so I think it's just coming back to that center.
Yeah. Wow. You just put such perfect words on it. Because in my own journey with my own family that I shared about. And by the way, we'll just drop a link in the show notes. Y' all can find out who I'm talking about. I just don't want to mention them on the podcast because it needs to. The word needs to get out. There's already multiple lawsuits anyways against this person. So what you really said in perfect ways was there's a time and a place for a woman to listen to how her body is guiding her, and that time and a place could not be more important than birth. That is probably a woman's most powerful decision on planet Earth. Would you agree?
Yeah, totally.
Like, what could be more powerful than how she chooses to bring life into the world? Than that perpetuates our species? What is more important than this? This is why on the past couple of podcasts, and I'd love to get your take on this, I think as men, we have literally just. And forgive us, we didn't know. We were taught by examples of our father and grandfather about how to provide containment and support a woman and. And figure out the masculine and feminine in us. It just didn't exist. It didn't exist at all. Like, it wasn't something that we were taught. But the same exists for the woman as well. Right. And I'm speaking heteronormatively. Some people relate in all different ways, and that's beautiful. Right. For them. So I'll just use the man woman example right now, women weren't necessarily taught how to let a man have space all the time. Some women were, but some, I would say, if I had to guess, just based on the 600 podcasts I've done and all the friends that I have in the network. And it's more times than not, I'm generalizing here, right. There's obviously diamonds in the rough everywhere, but women, in the same way, were not taught to allow spaciousness for a man because of maybe their drive for career or the dark side of feminism. There's a dark side of patriarchy and feminism. So these things converge in this space of healing. And the only way they can really converge is if we Even know how to hold it when they get there.
So.
So you talked about a woman listening to her body and feeling into what's true for her, which creates literally the most powerful decision of birth she could ever have on planet Earth. I wonder. I just wonder, even in my opening question to you, I keep going back to that. Why can't women birth? It's like, well, actually, it's the man and the woman that create life, so it's equally their responsibility. But yet, and this is my question for you, there is such a depth of work that a woman must do that in a way, I wonder if it is more than the level of work that a man must do, because she is the one that holds the child. She is the one that brings the child into the world. The father plants the seed. The womb is the garden of life. So which one. I mean, which one essentially seems like the woman has more work to do?
I would say she has more responsibility, I would say, and more work in that she is carrying the child. Like, if we break it into just conception, I think we've got like a 50, 50, both on the energetics and on the physical. Then once that baby is conceived, it's like a 90, 10, for sure. Right.
And then the birth, they hold it together after the seed has been planted. It's really. It's such a deep chasm for her.
Yeah. So I would say there's also more responsibility in her preparation for that of, like, wanting to have the healthiest pregnancy she can. She is gonna be implant. Not implanting, but she is gonna be altering those epigenetics of that baby more. What she's exposed to is gonna change that baby's epigenome even after. Even beyond, like, the epigenetics that have been inherited. And some epigenetics do get reset, but we also know some epigenetics, you might be getting trauma from your great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather or toxin exposure. I don't know if they had toxins back then. Probably. Who knows?
Probably less. Probably much less.
I would hope less.
There wasn't as many chemtrails back then. Yeah.
So, you know, she holds a greater epigenetic responsibility during the pregnancy for sure. And obviously during the birth. Because actually, here's something that's super interesting, and I learned this from Zach Bush, that oxytocin can actually reset the epigenome. And the most oxytocin that a baby and a mama will ever experience is during that birth. So it's almost like that birth experience is an opportunity to reset, maybe not anything and everything, but to offer a clean slate to that little baby coming through and maybe also to mom, just to add more emphasis on like the power of the birth experience.
So in the hospital, if a woman's intuition has been blunted by a false diagnosis from, and I don't want to demonize them, it's a well meaning doctor. It's not like this doctor has it out to like be evil to the 19 year old to, to say she has PCOS. That doctor is doing the best they can.
100% of consciousness they have.
Right. But the fact remains that this physician is still casting a shadow on this woman's life, which blunts her intuition, which then gives her a just ridiculously challenging path by the time she actually wants to become a mother. There's got to be a different narrative and I think that's what you and Clockwise are producing.
Thank you. We're working on it.
Yeah. So share with people then. Which, by the way, I know your birth is going to be amazing. I can already feel that.
Thank you.
Paul Chek told me on the podcast once, he's like, I can see in my third eye. You're going to be on stage and you're going to do all these things. He told me that four years ago. It's definitely come true. So if I have a connection to my third eye, what I would be able to see in you is that you, you are not just on like an Oprah one day, but also women are really taking ownership of their own biology again and their own intuition again, literally at their home in a box testing their blood, which is the best use of technology I've ever seen. You don't have to go to the fricking doctor's office to get pregnant. You just don't, don't go anywhere. Click the link on this screen if you love that clip that you just watched. Going to absolutely love this full length video. You just have to tap the little icon on the screen while you're at it. Subscribe.
