This short YouTube podcast clip (uploaded June 28, 2024 by Josh Trent) is a conversation between Adam and another speaker about whether a client’s reported guilt—about moving away from a mother who depends on them—is actually fear. The speakers probe caregiving responsibilities, the mother’s choice to rely on one person, and whether the client’s feeling is guilt or fear of the mother’s anger and resulting pain.
I had a client just the other day who said, adam, I want to make a change in my life, but I feel so much guilt about it because I would have to move away from my mom who can't live without me because no one else is helping her.
And I said, pause. Is there literally nobody else that can help, or is.
There just other people that aren't helping? He said, no, actually, there are other people. She just won't call.
She won't call them, so it's not that she can't call them.
She chooses to have you do everything for her and said.
Okay, so let's put that aside. What would she do if you said.
No, you can't help? Well, she would get really mad at me, and she has in the past.
Okay, let's go back to guilt. Why did you use the word guilt when it sounds like you're actually afraid? It actually sounds like you don't feel guilty at all. You're afraid of the pain she's going.
To try to inflict on you. You don't feel bad.
You're afraid of her. This word guilt, guilt means I did something wrong. She programmed that into you so that you would never stray from what she wants you to do. She program that word guilt in, but you're feeling afraid.