Quantum Energy Science: How To Live in Your Highest Frequency

Conversation (podcast/video) where Josh Trent interviews Philipp von Holtzendorff-Fehling about quantum energy, the Lila Quantum block, and a new remote service called Quantum Upgrade. Key points: the speakers frame consciousness and the morphogenetic field as a shared energetic field where thoughts/intentions propagate; the Lila Quantum block is described as neutralizing EMF, structuring water/food, charging metals and objects, and amplifying intention work; Quantum Upgrade is a remote entanglement service that uses unique identifiers (for humans: name, birth date, birth city; for pets: name, breed, city) to place people/pets/homes into a centralized high- consciousness quantum field and offers app-like controls (e.g., setting Hawkins-scale levels, boosters, specific frequency programs). Multiple randomized double-blind studies are cited conversationally: an ATP (cell-culture) study with 96 control and 96 charged wells reporting ~20–25% increase in ATP production over 45 minutes; a lifeblood analysis study reporting improvements in clotting stages, oxygenation, WBC motility and up to ~80% reduction in parasitic load; a clinical study with 42 autistic children reporting a ~10-point reduction in measured autism scores; and a BrainTap collaboration showing enhanced outcomes. A 15-day free trial code (Josh15) and expected near-term publication of the ATP study (about 60 days) are mentioned.
Questions this video answers
About two and a half years (Philipp: 'I think it's about two and a half years almost').
Quantum Upgrade has been active since mid-August (year not specified).
Name, birth date, and birth city.
Pet name, breed, and city where the pet lives.
96 control cell wells and 96 charged cell wells (double-blind).
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If you put half the world in fear, then that is a predominant feeling that actually the other ones will also pick up. It's going to be in the field and that it's a more dominant force at that time. And if you put love out there and more love, then suddenly that gets to be in the field and more people pick that up. That's a higher vibration. We have created this super powerful source and we've created the bridge basically to the digital front system. It's not that the energy actually gets sent over some stream to that person. You are in the field. It's not like you're getting energy like external, like it's as if you're in the source even though you're physically there. So you're at both places. That's the quantum entangle. Everything that we put out, anything that's happening, every thought and every action and reaction is part of that field.
Philip, I was thinking about you this morning. It was almost like we were in quantum entanglement.
There you go, we're here.
This is the second podcast and I'm excited because, you know, people know about the Leela quantum block and how much I love it and charging my water and my food. But today is really exciting because we have some new science to talk about and we also have a new service to talk about, this Quantum Upgrade service. So since you came on the pod, I think it was about a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, something like that, we learned about your son and healing his wrist with the quantum and your own life and coming from Telcom and all the world that you left behind. But give people like a 30 second snapshot of what you've been up to since you came on the podcast last.
Yeah, so we kept developing and developing and developing and that means we, we've been doing a lot more research. We have so much more to talk about, actually what we've found out. And we've launched the Quantum Upgrade service, which, you know, I think like every time we talk and we talk to some people again, after a few months, it feels like we can push the limits even more. And it's mind boggling, frankly, that we're going to talk about. But it's rooted in hardcore science. Right. And we'll get into that as well, which is the amazing thing. And to be honest, for me, the last few weeks were extremely humbling because the what we're witnessing, I mean, we know that it works and how it works and all that, but seeing that with your own eyes, sometimes it's it's just humbling. It's. It's really touching to see, like, what can you do even over distance? And what positive changes can you promote? We'll get into that. But, yeah, research and development is really, like, what this is all about. And, yeah, now we can talk about all of that.
It's interesting to me because you have a foothold in your past of science and business and I guess you could say the normal, logical world. But then also because of your wife's work in the world and your work in the world, like a deeply spiritual part of your life is compelled through this quantum. And we all experience it. It's like, I remember thinking about this when I heard about the hundredth monkey effect where they had the 50 monkeys on one side of the island and 50 on the other. And some of the monkeys on the north side started washing coconuts. They weren't in communion at all. No communication with the other monkeys, but the other monkeys started to do the exact same behavior. And then science tried to make sense of spirituality and the quantum by saying, oh, well, when one has a thought, that thought becomes contagious and it goes through the quantum field. And that's what people actually start, quote, picking up on. I wonder if you could expand that a little bit, because we try to use science to explain the quantum, but you have to feel the quantum. You have to feel God. You have to feel your relationship with a higher power. You have to feel the quantum energy. You can't just type it onto a PDF. It has to be something that you experientially learn. So can you expand on that concept of, like, the true essence of quantum entanglement?
Yeah. So I think a lot of people also refer to, you know, this phenomenon as the morphogenetic field. And everything that we put out, anything that's happening, every thought and every action and reaction is part of that field. Right? And ultimately, we're all one. We're one energy. That is the truth. And that's very hard to understand, though, from the 3D perspective. It is extremely difficult to understand because here, of course, you know, we're Josh and Philip, and there's a dog, and there's, you know, so many other people around with their own characters. And we are not the same in this reality because we literally have all of our own histories and experiences and characters and personalities, which is awesome because we get to play around like that. But ultimately, there's. There's this deep connection which is rooted in consciousness, because everything is consciousness. And if you put, you Know half the world in fear, then that is a predominant feeling that actually the other ones will also pick up somehow. It's gonna be in the field, and that's. It's a more dominant force at that time. And if you put love out there and more love out there and more love and more love, then suddenly that gets to be in the field and more people pick that up. That's a higher vibration. So it's all about lower vibrations. Higher vibrations moves to that. Like in a. In an ocean, basically, where you know, different particles flow and different information flows and. Yeah, it ebbs and flows, but that's pretty much it. We're. We're all connected in a way. Like an ocean is always connected somehow, even though it may be hundreds of miles away from one part of the ocean to the other one.
We just had Aaron Abke on the show. He's a brother, a friend of mine that I'm just getting to know, and he talked about the law of one, the universal law of one, where science has shown, and I'm sure we'll talk about the science very deeply with the Lila Quantum, especially the Upgrade. Science has shown that when you intentionally meditate and send like a loving kindness meditation to somebody could be halfway across the world, you can actually measure that. You can measure when you're intentionally setting a vibration or sending out a vibe or an energy to someone else. And that to me is the most exciting thing because I think about how many people try to quantify meditation or quantify these spiritual things that we do. And by spiritual, I just mean bringing us closer to that law of one, to God, God, self. But I wonder how you'd explain that. You know, it's been. How long since you founded the company, Lila Quantum? How many years?
I think it's about two and a half years almost.
Yes.
And Quantum Upgrade now has been, you know, active since August, mid August.
Yeah. But before that there was a ton of R D. Like, you didn't. Just how many years from, like, let's say conception to this moment at the table here, this perota table from Costa Rica. How many, how much time total?
Definitely a few years. And leading up to the actual physical development of it, I think we're, I mean, probably more than a decade of my own learning experience getting even to that point that I can start doing something like that with others. Yeah, yeah. So it's. It's been a long journey as far as that goes. Now things go way quicker because we're already at the point where we've developed so Much. That is a great basis. And, but, but still it's always like we always think, now this is it, you know, what we've developed, this is it. But then, I mean, a few months later, there's even more that we find out and can do, which is kind of cool.
It's so wild because I know the nature of the universe with whatever minimalistic tools that science tries to measure it upon. The nature of the universe is to consistently expand. So there's actually no end to the universe that we could measure with our finite mind, which is just even to try to conceptualize that. It's like, what, how could you even conceptualize that? So if we know that that's a true law, and we also know that there's a true law of one, that you and I are connected on a level of which we can feel, then how could anyone really argue with the fact that if we seek that expansion or if we put ourselves in alignment or in vibration with that expansion, then we ourselves couldn't benefit? I mean, the benefit is clear.
Exactly. The benefit is totally clear. And you know, in essence it should be such a simple truth. And it actually is that we're at core energy and frequency. That's all we are, frankly. But sort of the difficulty is in this 3D world that we tend to forget, right? And that's part of the game also, right, that we forget, you know, we forget about past lives, we forget about a lot of other things, and we forget really our true nature. And, and that's part of the issue. And then, you know, what's happening in the outer world is that there's a narrative and there's a certain box that we need to live in and function in. And that's the box of the five senses. Now even more so, even the five senses, I would argue most people are not even really aware of their five senses anymore. I mean, who walks outside and is smelling what's really in the air and hearing what's really in the air because we're so bombarded with information, with our own stress and everything, that we even from there we get disconnected from those five senses, but we completely lost the access to our higher senses, which were the real truth is the real life. And Tesla said it, you know, if you want to find the secrets of the universe, you need to think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. And I think that's what it's all about. And Tesla wasn't a dumb person. He was actually, actually extremely smart. I mean, you know, really forward thinking. And he's developed amazing thing. But he comes also from a science perspective, right. He's not just like this guru. So you can come from both sides and you arrive at the same result that there is energy and frequency. And that's what we are now. Why do we believe it's only all physical that matters? Why do we just take supplements and then think we can only feel good when we take supplements? But there's supplements may be a great addition to what we're doing because the physical health is important, but the energetic I think we blocked out for too long as humanity. And it's coming back, it's coming back rapidly right now and you see like more and more people talking about it and realizing it. And I think that's the amazing part. And once you get more into this sense where energy and frequency, frequency is nothing else but information, right. Then you can understand also that you can influence things, objects in and physiological organisms with information. Right? So yeah, that's pretty much where we are at this point.
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How do you use the quantum field? Basically, let's talk about the block first.
And then we'll transition over to the upgrade service. But really for people that maybe didn't see our last podcast go into the intention setting, of course I'm selfishly asking for me, but that's what this podcast is, right? It's my journey. It's our journey of figuring out how do we live life. Well, that's really the core of it all. So talk to us about the specificity and the application of the block that we're sitting in front of.
Yep. So I'll give a quick wrap up of what you can even do with it and then I'll move into. Okay, how do we work with intentions? And why does that even work? Right. Okay. So first thing is you can just have it sit somewhere, and it neutralizes EMF and it harmonizes the whole area around it, and you don't even need to do anything with it. The second thing is you can charge groceries with it and water. You can structure water and really optimize the energetic nature. Visibly and scientifically verifiable with the block. And even up to the point where now we're doing a lot of research in regards to food allergies, that even food allergies seem to disappear and significantly be decreased if you charge foods you're allergic to in the block. Don't try that at home yet, because that is the one medical advice. It's ongoing, so the research is ongoing. We need more data points. Honestly, we do. But. But everything points to that at this point. Third thing is you can charge metals with it and other objects, frankly, you can even put just like a blanket in there or your socks or your running shoes and stuff like that. But metal holds quantum energy very well. So then after that, the metal is at a higher vibration, and it will also, you know, radiate and transmit the quantum energy outwards. So you can leverage it from that same point. The fourth thing is that you can put your hands in the air, you can put your feet in there and all of that. And then the next one is really where you work with intentions and intentions, because it's such a high consciousness field. You can, you know, we manifest through thoughts. You know, we. We become what we think pretty much. And we call that into our lives. That's the truth. Because so if we always think, I don't have enough, you know, I'm. I'm poor, I don't have enough, I feel bad. And even if I subconsciously think that that's what I'm calling into my field. So we actually want to feel and think that. That we want to have in our lives. Now that's just. We can just do that without a block. Right. That's already just a great training to do. But then with a block, we have such a high consciousness field available that we can significantly amplify the results of that. So if I then put an intention in, you know, well, if I'm an unhappy person, I may want to be happy. Right. I write down, I'm happy, I'm happy.
Speaking in the affirmative.
Yeah, I'm happy.
Yeah, I want to be happy, or I don't want to be sad. Don't write that down.
Yeah, so the. Don't. The do not Is indeed something you don't want to put in because that's kind of like nullified. But you can still write down, I want to be a healthy. You know, you could write that down too. But it's more powerful to use the. The present and to actually, even when you do that, envision yourself as being happy or as being healthy, because then you add feeling to the thought, which is very, very powerful, and then you can place it in this field. And as long as you have it in the field, it's almost as if you're constantly working with that affirmation. But I mean, who has the time to say 24 7, you know, I'm happy, I'm happy, I'm happy. But I mean, I tell you that if you did that 24 7.
Yeah. You'd believe it.
With sleep in between, you probably move the needle quite a bit.
Sure, sure.
But so it would be in the field without you having to constantly say that in a very powerful way. The only thing is that you could not manifest anything that's against your own soul plan and against the universal law, which includes things that would be manipulative because the field just doesn't support it. So let's say, you know, if you wanted to wish someone has an accident and breaks his leg, you can put that in all you want. It's not going to be supported. It's just. It just falls through. It's as if nothing is there.
But can't quantum hold both dark and light? So why wouldn't that work?
Yeah, well, because it's manipulative. And the pure quantum energy field doesn't support that. It's just. It's a highly concentrated pure quantum energy field and just it's its nature to not support it. It supports everything in regards to life and consciousness. Everything that's detrimental or harmful to life and consciousness, it harmonizes. So, for example, if we put a nice, you know, medicinal mushroom mix in there and a glass of water, the frequency would go into the water and I drink it and I have the frequency within me. If I put a herbicide and a pesticide and a fungicide in there with the water and I drink it, no problem. I would not have the negative frequencies of that because it basically neutralizes that. That's pretty much what happens if what we found with the food allergies that there are detrimental waveform patterns of, let's say you can't eat lemon now. We had people that now charge a lemon and then suddenly the lemon. Actually, even if you test it with kinesiology it would test positive for you. But the. The real deal is then to actually then taste the lemon.
Yeah.
And if you have no allergic reaction, that's the real deal. Right. If you formerly always had an allergic reaction to that. So that's pretty much what happens. So whatever is then detrimental gets harmonized in a way so that you can actually take it in.
It makes sense because I would assume that based on my own experience, when I'm out of alignment or when I'm angry at someone, or when I'm holding vengeance or resentment in my heart towards someone, I don't feel good. So if I'm holding onto that, the best way for me to feel better or achieve homeostasis, which is really what I feel like Quantum always is. Quantum is like the perfect homeostasis for all living beings. So it makes sense that Roundup Ready wouldn't transfer into the water because Quantum doesn't want to have somebody with an allostatic load pulling them out of homeostasis. They'd want them in homeostasis. So the best way for me to get in homeostasis is just to forget, forgive, or to love or to let go of the things that are causing my nervous system to feel poisoned or really apprehended by evil. I mean, these energies in the world. There's dark matter in the world, Philip, and there's light and there's love. And I don't think that it would be responsible for us to say there's no such thing as evil. There's no such thing as bad stuff that happens to good people. How do you personally make sense of that? And how does Leela and Quantum really allow you to focus on the light, focus on the good, without spiritually bypassing that there actually is evil? It's a very philosophical question.
Yeah. So, I mean, obviously there is. There's everything, right? There's nothing that doesn't exist. And. And in this world here, we have the polarity, and it couldn't be any other way that you have, you know, good and evil and light and dark and rain and dryness. You know, you have all these things, they exist, but the pure Quantum energy field just doesn't support it. That you move into that more so that it's just. And it may be maybe the current times. To be honest, that's maybe a question I can't answer. But definitely in the current times, that is not supported because we're moving more into a unity and more into. Into the light, frankly. And that may be the path we're on.
Right now there's so much going on in my heart and in my head when you're speaking, because I think about, in our world, there is this proclivity towards, if the science shows me that it's real, then I'll believe it. But look what we went through with the pandemic and all the insanity around diaper wearing on the face and just so much craziness that people were hanging their hat on science being a God. And I feel like there's this, there's this middle place between science and spirituality where you live, especially with your background that we already talked about in the previous podcast and like you operated on that world for a while, the academic world, the logical world, the scientific world. And I would assume, and I'm curious how you feel, I would assume that a lot of people, when they come to the quantum device or when they come to the quantum upgrade, they probably are so ripe for transformation because of their focus on the logical, on the linear, on the science, that introducing a concept of quantum entanglement or quantum energy, it might be really challenging for those people to accept.
Yes, totally. And you know, and you're absolutely right. And then you always find people like that, that are where their head is really in the way. But it's because of the narrative and the experience of these people in the past. And I feel like my own journey helps me with understanding that because I really was in that world. You know, had you told me 20 years ago that something like this exists, I would have told you I don't believe it flat out. You know, then I would have looked at the science at some point. Then I would have said, I mean, okay, the proof is in the pudding. I give up, I surrender. But you know, first I would have said, no, I don't accept that because at that time I did not accept that there is energy and frequency. I literally thought I'm just my body and this logical, you know, operating person. You know what I mean? So, yeah, and I think it's hard for people to get out of this box because we feel very comfortable in that. It's like especially like very brain focused people, you know, they have their logical mind and they can analyze all of these things and that's the worst world they feel very comfortable in. And as soon as they get out of that, they feel very uncomfortable because it's such a new territory for them. And, and then someone else may know more about that makes have experienced more about that and they feel inferior to that, whereas they shouldn't because it's in that world, actually, it's not about, you know, more. You. You have experienced more. It's. It's just. Everything just is and it doesn't matter. And everyone, I think, that has experienced more is actually happy. If someone is just taking the first baby steps, it's just. Couldn't be more happy about it, frankly. If someone. That's what makes my day. If I see people that are like, this can't work. And then they realize, damn, it does work. And suddenly it cracks open and they're like, there is more to it. And I can now feel it. I can accept it. And then suddenly their whole life can actually change. And. But the process to allow that is a difficult one for many. And it takes some courage.
Yeah, courage to unravel what they've thought they've learned. That's true.
And I think with all this scientific research that we focused on, it helps because it helps some people to really look at that and then to really question what they thought was true and possible. And then suddenly it shows them way more is possible than they ever thought.
What is one thing that you personally used to question like a madman? Like, I question this about quantum or about energy or just about the law of one in general, that you now know with the man you are sitting here today was completely false. What's something that you had to take an honest look at personally in your own life, and you had to cut the cord and let go of it? A belief, a way of being, a realization that something was true and then you found out that it actually wasn't.
Yeah. So, you know, a long time ago, I was told that you can't get sick if you don't have that in your field as a resonance. And I would not accept that. And by now I know that that is actually the truth. Like, we literally cannot get sick if we don't have that in our field. Which, by the way, doesn't mean that even enlightened people don't get sick because they actually may need it as a teacher, the disease, or they may need it for whatever, you know, to just. For some transformation, to, you know, physically move through stuff. That doesn't mean that, but it still means that energetically, if we can. If we can solve certain things energetically, they don't manifest in the material. And that's definitely something where I had to work and learn and then experience and then know ultimately.
So you haven't been sick in a while?
I don't really get sick a lot, but I still get sick every now and then. You know, I mean, I had Covid, I think, or whatever that. Whatever it was, you know, the sneezing at least, you know, for like, a couple days, it goes away super quickly.
Yes.
I don't have it massively at all. And usually I'm super, super healthy. But again, it doesn't mean that as you move up on the consciousness ladder and all that, that you don't get sick anymore. Because my wife, she was born with the ability to see aura and energy fields, and it's pretty amazing. She's probably one of the best in the world to actually read people, to literally read people and to tell them why. Like, why are things happening in your life and how, like, how can you fix these things? Most people can't do that. Even some of the top healers, they can do certain things, but the how and the why, they can't get. She's amazing in that. But she got diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease a long time ago. I think it was in 2010, and she had had it for five years at the time. And it was for her, though, looking back, if you asked her, the best teacher for her, because it taught her so many things, and she learned so much for herself and also for others actually, by going through that. And I think that's also part of that. Life is fun. Life is a game, and we can approach it as such, but it's also really a learning experience. So we. We get to learn, you know, and if we accept that, then I think we can also move through stuff a lot easier, which all may take us a little bit off topic now, but.
No, it's perfectly on topic. The. The part of the game that I think trips me up and maybe all of us the most is anger or grief, right? One, two of those core emotions. But as you know, energy cannot be created or destroyed. We can only move it. It can only be transmuted. So if I'm angry or if I'm in deep grief, it's essentially just a vacuum of energy. You know, Aristotle, nature abhors a vacuum, which Alan Watts then used in his lectures. So if nature hates a vacuum and I'm feeling a deep depression or a deep grief or a deep sadness, it means that energy is primed for movement. Opposite of expression is depression. So if I'm depressed, I'm not expressing myself. So in that same vein, if I align all the people and the tools like Leela, and also just loving conversations like this or loving relationships, these are the things that actually start to get that energy to move, you know, because we're like a river. We're either damned and sediment collects inside of us or we're flowing and we're moving. So talk about the new service because this is something exciting. I haven't used it yet. Total truth, I'm about to use it. I'll let you guys know on Social. But it's something really exciting that I've heard about. But when you came to the table with this, I was like, okay, I'm going to take a look. And then of course, a few of my friends here in Austin are already using it. So there's the physical in place, Leela. Quantum technology and the cards and the jackets and the beanies and everything else that we can use. But now there's this service where you can actually. And I want to know, like, is it buried underground? Is it, is it on a mountaintop somewhere? Like, what is the Quantum Upgrade service and how did you come across it and where is it in the world? What's going on with that?
Yeah. So Ian Mitchell would call it the logical evolution of the work with Lila Quantum, which, you know, I didn't expect that we would go there that quickly, but it really is the, an absolute advancement of our technology. So Quantum Upgrade basically is a whole system that has one of the most powerful sources of quantum energy on Earth, frankly, as the source that we can now leverage to via quantum entanglement. Basically have people, pets, homes, even businesses be in the field, in a super high consciousness field. And I'll get more into that. What we need is a unique identifier. So, you know, for example, we want the service for a pet and we want the pet bee in a high consciousness field through the Quantum Upgrade. We need to have the, that it's a dog, that it's. Which breed is the dog, what's the name? And then the city where the dog is in. For a human, it would be just the name, birth date and the birth city. That's because that's a unique identifier.
A unique identifier to whom?
To the source of that. So if it's your name, your birth date and your birth city, then it's a unique identifier to you. And if we connect that unique identifier, then you are literally in the field. That's how. So we connect you to that powerful source. And then, I mean, we've done so much development with the system that now it is able and by the way, proven that you can make changes on your end to it. So on your end, it's almost like any other app that you can think of that's very convenient where you can change the settings and you can want this and want that. So in this case you can say for the daytime I choose 900 on the Hawkins scale as the consciousness level. The consciousness field that I want to have for the night. I set it to 500 as an example. Oh, and at 9am Usually in the mornings, that's the time where I really want to get going. I set a booster for half an hour that goes up to 1200 or 1100 on the Hawkins scale, which actually is above the end of the Hawkins scale. And it'll do that exactly what you said. And we, we've gone so far that you can now even book in specific frequencies, let's say an inner peace frequency for the night, which a lot of people use because it just helps calm the mind and, and things like that. And that is the absolute advancement of that. And, and of course we get it. You know, people already, there were some people that had difficulty understanding with a device like this that wow, can this really work? And, and all of that. And we've shown the science and people can experiment it and all of that. Now not even having a physical device is even further difficult for some people. Right. If you're a very logical person. But there have been various randomized double blind studies now that show with beyond any doubt what is actually happening. And the results are incredible. It doesn't just show like it's working, like there's a change, there's massive change. And actually four before the interview was like where was the fourth one? And now I just remember there's four of such studies that have been done now in the last several months and it's mind boggling. The latest one really was an ATP study. So ATP production for people who don't know that's about the currency of our physical body. That's the energy production of the cells. So, but the cells themselves produce in terms of energy. You can measure that in ATP and it's a very physical thing obviously. And there, there are labs that are specialized on that. They look at cell cultures and wound healing processes and ATP production, they can measure that. So there's this lab in the U.S. that said, okay, we're, we're going to help you with that study and we're going to run it. They didn't think it would work. It's a professor that's extremely experienced in this and does nothing else but looking at these cells and all of that. But he thought it's not going to work. Right. So it was 96 cell wells in the control group and 96 so called cell wells in the group that was charged. He had no idea which got charged because it needed to be double blind. We wanted it to be like a gold standard study. And each of those wells you have like hundreds of thousands of cells. So this is like massive. And a massive study. And what happened is that over a 45 minute period, they measured I think five times the first time after five minutes already. And the increase in ATP production for all the charged cells was 20 to 25%, which is absolutely phenomenal. Like, I texted Dave Asprey that we had this result and he texted me back. That is absolutely amazing. I haven't seen anything that even gets close to 20% increase in ATP production and certainly nothing that works over distance.
Yeah. Usually people think of that as supplements, Right. Like vitamin C's and B's and stuff like that.
Yes.
But for something outside the body to be localized in an area.
Yes.
Which then affects the adenosine triphosphate to grow, which essentially gives the body more capacity to give and receive fuel. That's what ATP is. Yes, it's a fuel substrate, decoder, if you will.
Yes.
That is freaking fascinating to me. And this study is going to come out this year.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's done. We have the results. All of that is done. All they need to do now in the lab is to write it all up and everything. And I expect maybe in 60 days or so we'll have it and then we'll definitely publish it.
It's exciting. It's.
It's super exciting. We had shingles. When I got on that zoom call and I was just told those results, I mean, everyone, including the professor, who's now a full believer of this, by the way, we all had chills. We were all like, oh my God, this is just absolutely amazing because that's even on top of the external energy, because you have more energy from the quantum upgrade without the cells producing more, but the cells themselves also then produce more. This is. It has implications for athletes, for healing processes. It's massive, to be honest.
Yeah. I was doing some research this morning about how to naturally raise ATP and obviously it's all the things that you would do. Moving yourself to homeostasis, sleep, proper nutrition, water that's clean. But to get something outside of the body, it makes sense because what is the antonym of this? The antonym of homeostasis is disease. The antonym of being in an environment that's clean. From EMF is that there's just pure air and no dirty electricity that you're taking in. So it would make sense that if you went to the other side in a lab setting and you were to prove this is the ATP structure with no upgrade, this is the ATP structure with upgrade in a double blind, which means that the person doing the test doesn't even know which group is being affected. That to me just kind of breaks down all the dams for the logical mind to say something doesn't work because then you're literally showing to me. This is interesting though, and this is my next question. In the movie what the Bleep? Which is one of my favorite movies, they talked about the observer effect, where when you observe something, it actually changes the outcome compared to if you weren't observing it at all. What do you make of that when it comes to the quantum upgrade? Because you're taking something that essentially by you looking at it, it changes the result.
Yeah. So that's why you double blinded, basically. Because if we hadn't double blinded, it would have possibly still been awesome and everything. But then someone could have said, well, you know, the professor knew that these got charged and he had an effect on that. And you need to rule that out in such a study. So that's why it was completely double blinded. Like literally there was no observer at that point that knew anything. So he couldn't put in any of his own thoughts into that. So that was completely ruled out. Plus we had so many that it was like with beyond any doubt with such statistical significance because had we just used like a couple cells here and a couple cells there, then you could say, oh, you know, that could have been like random or, you know, an outlier or something. So this is all ruled out in that sense. And in these other studies were also randomized and double blind, which we can go into. So this, it's, it's, it's very profound.
Okay, so on one, on one side of quantum understanding, you have science and on the other side you have experience or spiritual experience. And I wonder for people that, you know, there's probably tens of thousands of people that have experienced this by now. The physical products, the quantum service is actually brand new. So you guys are hearing it here probably for the very first time. The, the combination of the two, the, the way that the energy gets, I guess you could say, into the body by selecting the space that the energy gets to. How do you as a company select where the energy goes? You talked about those identifiers, right? Like, okay, Josh, you know, 42980 here in Austin, Texas and North Texas. And this is his zip code. But then where does the energy actually come from? This is a very mechanical question, FYI. The energy comes from somewhere that you're harnessing, that you're accessing in the field, and then you send the energy to someone else. It's not like you're getting an IP address on a WI fi router. It's something else.
It's not really that we send it anywhere and we actually don't do anything. Like what we do is we have created this super powerful source and we've created the bridge basically to the digital front end system so that it can work and it's, it's all prepared that way, monitored and all of that. But what happens when the unique identifier is placed into the source? It's not that the energy actually gets sent over some stream to that person, because quantum. And that's the hard part to understand for anyone out there right now, even for me. But you are in the field in that moment. You are in the field. It's not like you're getting energy like external, like it rains on you or something. You're literally in the field in that moment. That's how it works. You are in the field. It's as if you're in this source, powerful source, even though you're physically there. So you're at both places. That's the quantum entanglement.
This is the superposition, the 0 and the 1 at the same time.
Yes, exactly. So you get to be and do whatever you want while you're in the field. And that's why, you know, people that are very EMF sensitive, for example, and live even off grid, far away from town, they sometimes need to go to town. And they have, and we know several people like that. They have big issues when they go to town because they feel the EMFs and they just have a very hard time. If they're now on the quantum upgrade, they can go to town and they're like, as if they're like in this bubble. Because they're not like a protection bubble. It's more like they're so expanded that the EMFs don't matter to them. They feel no impact from the EMFs.
What do you mean? What do you mean they're so expanded.
Your own vibration raises, because if you choose, let's say, a level of 900 on the Hawkins scale, for example, it's a very high vibrational level and it basically invites you to vibrate higher and to expand the lower consciousness levels are usually a state of contraction.
Yeah.
And what, you know, fear, you would, you would never find anyone that's in full fear that is totally energetically open. No, they're more like this. So you're, you're energetically contracting the same with anger or, or shame, you know, like it's. You want to hide almost. That's energetically. That's those states. But the expansion is really like where the higher consciousness levels are. And that's how you access more insights. That's how synchronic. So this field invites you to that. And in that moment, you don't need to feel like any of such energies. I've told people before, hey, you can do everything that we're helping you to do with our tools on your own, with your own consciousness. Ultimately, most people have totally forgotten how to do that, how to unlock our consciousness and how to do these things. That's why we provide the tools right now to get there so it can train you. But, but hey, you know, I hope that in 10 years we don't have to do any of this anymore. And people can do all of that on their own. They've learned that. Right. That would be the goal. But that's in essence what happens that, you know, you're getting more into this expanded state. And then you repel things like emf, sort of, because they're, you know, they just can't impact you, but they can impact you as soon as you're in this lower states.
Right.
So if you're in a fearful state, you're much more open to getting disease in and other things. And you call in these negative things.
There's. And I'm not a religious man, but I think in all religious texts there's really powerful wisdom. And there's a section in the Bible where there's a phrase, you know, to those who have nothing more will be taken, and to those who have everything more will be given. And of course, I'm paraphrasing it, but that's my interpretation of it. And I think it goes to this real practical lens of law of attraction. Because if I am in that state where I'm sick, I have disease, maybe even your wife, when she was experiencing Lyme's disease for five years before she even knew she had it. We are all in a journey of self discovery, and we're trying to figure out, how can I be the most free? I mean, at the end of the day, we just want to be free. We want to live our life well. And I think a life well lived is a life of fucking freedom where we're actually free to say no to anything that doesn't align with us. But in order for us to get there, we have to go through these peaks and valleys and, and in the valley of disease and sickness, we are actually more. We have a greater propensity to be taken advantage of someone who's poor people that, you know, unfortunately, like I believe it was MLM that, that really harpooned the entire Latino American community and took advantage of them. And these people had to stockpile these products in their garages. Long story short, when people are in a lower frequency, they're. They're more open to wetico or dark energy. Can you talk about that a little bit more?
Yeah, I mean, this is pretty much what I tried to express. That, you know, indeed, if you're calling in these negative things, these lower vibrational energies and happenings in your life, if you are in a state of that and that can be. It doesn't need to be conscious, right? If you're just subconsciously just in these states. Yes, you're calling them in. That's why it's. So that's the journey, right? To make sure we empty the backpack of those lower vibrational things, you know, because we come into this life with a backpack already that is filled. Then, you know, at birth, there's the next trauma that's happening. And then we're little kids, 1, 2 years old, and we do things that our parents don't like. They yell at us, next trauma in here. Then, you know, I mean, there's tons of things. Then, I don't know, we're five years old, we're in a car and our dad has an accident with us in the car. That's the next thing. So all these things come in there and they drag on us and they sort of like, they activate and they work on their own. And we can't really live our lives freely, authentically, because it's always something in here triggering certain actions and reactions. So as we are on this energetic path to higher consciousness, we empty these things, right? We try to get rid of this trauma, transform this. Look at this. Oh, you were there. No, I don't need you anymore. Get resistant. We get lighter and lighter and lighter and free and free and freer. And that's pretty much the, the path. And as we do that, suddenly we invite more and more of these higher vibrational things into our lives. And so, yeah, so. And then affirmations help, by the way, also you know, affirmations are not something that can fix things overnight. But we want to think what we want to be. So if I want to be happy and healthy, I want to say, I'm happy and healthy, and I want to try to feel that and bring that up. So that's. Yeah. One of the easy, simple truths.
Yeah. And it's interesting because what you're talking about. I had a visceral experience of this last night, actually. We're sitting, watching a movie, and my son, Nova, he's 19 months old, he comes over, and he pinches my nipple super hard, right? Just out of nowhere, he's like. And I just had a physical response. I just, like. I said, no. And I smacked his hand, and he starts to cry, and I realized, damn, I just put a little note in his backpack, you know, that playing with Daddy isn't safe or playing isn't safe. So I held him, and I. And then I explained. See, I think this is the. This is the key for all of us that want to transform, for all of us that want to feel free, that want to be in a higher vibration. We have to have the courage and the intention to connect and explain why we made a mistake or why we had a learning lesson. So I said, you know, Nova, that really hurts Daddy. And when you do that, it hurts other people. I'm sorry that I responded to you like that, like, everything's okay, and I healed it with him. But if I didn't have the awareness to do that, and I just was operating in a very maybe compromised physical or mental space, and I just said, yeah, he should know not to do that, like a total jerk.
Yeah.
Then I could see how that would manifest through lineage and emotionally, epigenetically affect people where then, you know. And you saw this, I'm sure, with your own children, where when you would have a learning lesson or a mistake, you would come around and you would correct it, and that would actually be the healing of it. So, long story short, what I'm saying is, like, if we have the courage to communicate, the courage to connect and really admit or be vulnerable when we had a mistake or when we did something that hurt someone else, that can mean everything. I mean, that's really a rich life. So I wonder how, as we wrap up, because I know you have to go to the airport, I wonder how you would say to people that are curious or interested in getting all the tools around them, literally around them in the quantum, so that they can make those loving choices, so that they can connect with their Wife or husband or family in a better way. Because when we're full, when we're fulfilled, we have more to give. I wonder if you could just speak to that for a moment.
Yeah, well, I think it's, it's part of that is within humanity in general. I think nowadays we have it easier to actually correct these things and to have more self awareness on that rather than maybe 50 years ago. And I think it ripples through all of humanity right now that we're taking these steps. And in general, I think, you know, just, just do things that help you to fill your inner deficits with more inner abundance and try to move up, you know, your own consciousness. Which doesn't mean where you're at, you're not right. You are totally right where you are. But that doesn't mean we should stop there. We should keep evolving and then find the courage, you know, to communicate and also to, to realize when you did something wrong. You know, we all do that, right. And you know, hopefully our products actually help with that. But before we end, I still need to talk about these other studies because people need to hear, all right, let's. Do we still have the time?
Okay, we got time. We got like five more minutes till your ride gets here. So really quickly, let's close the loop. I will say just on that philosophical and spiritual conversation we were having, it is so, so, so important to take somewhat of an invent breath or an inventory of how I've been or how we've been in our lives that would actually then allow us to access the courage. And the last thing I'll say is that I believe that courage exists right in the place that scares you the very most. Where you're like, I can't admit to my father that he hurt me, or I can't tell my wife that, you know, I'm having this vulnerable feeling or whatever it is. That's where it lives. That's where the courage actually lives. And I'm not here to say that I'm better or you're better. It's just that there's a different awareness of go to the place in your life that actually scares you the very most. And that's where the courage is going to live right in that space and get the tools and people and technology that can allow you to cross the gap between being afraid of the courage or just having the will to grab onto that courage. I think that's really what we're talking about.
Very powerful message for sure. I would totally agree.
Let's talk about the Science now.
All right, so I'll get into that real quick. So besides the big ADP study that we just covered, there was a randomized double blind study in regards to lifeblood analysis where they found that with charging over distance through the quantum entanglement, there were significant improvements in the blood in 100% of the cases with statistical significance. And they saw reversal of stage one and stage two of blood clotting, improvement in oxygenation in the blood, which was significant. White blood cell activity, motility increased, and they even saw things like a reduction in parasitic load by even 80%, which is incredible. I don't go into details now because we don't have the time. But third thing, there was a clinical study done with 42 autistic kids in India, biofunctional medicine clinic there that is focused on autistic kids. And that's a big deal because there's not much you can do with autism, to be honest. And parents are in a tough position because their kids usually have language and speaking issues. Attention span is not there.
Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
Yeah. And so, long story short, just the the part of this quote unquote, quantum healing with over distance charging was able to bring down the so called addict scores by 10 points, which is very, very significant. That study will be published most likely in the next three months. So that was also great finding. And then just in the last three weeks, the company Braintap, that probably a lot of people have heard about, they have these headphones and they actually studied if the quantum upgrade could further improve the Brain tap usage. So they tested their several test persons, I think it was maybe 14 or so. And they do before and after testing before and then using the brain tap headset with a specific program and then after, and then they usually see improvements. We knew that we could further improve that and that was now proven. And not by us, it was actually by Brain Tab. And you could think that they may not be interested in showing that there's something that could further advance that, but they're really honest and amazing guys. And they found that in all the measurements they looked at, there was significant improvements. So we're starting to work with them now together so that the forces can be combined. And so it's all very exciting. And actually we have a free trial, right. For people. So I think with code Josh15 on QuantumUpgrade IO, you get 15 day free trial. So you get to test it and experience it for yourself and you get to join the community also and ask other people about it. And all of that, yes.
Thank you so much for being here and for just taking this time to talk about stuff that maybe the people that need it the most might have the most resistance to. So I will share with you personally and with all of you guys, there is something to be said about placebo. Like, in science, we have this term that says, well, if you think something will happen, then it will. And I say yes, because maybe in a way, that's what quantum is. Quantum is a way to scientifically explain the spiritual power of placebo. And so regardless of the block or the service or any of these physical things or things that we articulate that we can attach to, the reality is, is that the more I think, therefore, I am that way. So, yeah, there's so many things that we've discussed that, you know, people need the most, but maybe they have the most resistance to hearing. And if y' all are feeling just curious about this, like, maybe you're like, cool, I'm totally in. Or you're thinking, okay, I have some resistance. Just go to JoshTrenton.com upgrade and use the code Josh15. Philip gave you two weeks off, which is amazing. There's zero risk there. You can just try it for yourself. And so thank you so much for doing that. And before we let you go, what exactly is this journey of life at the center of it, at least all about for you? How do you define. I talked about freedom earlier for a life well lived, but how do you define freedom when it comes to your own personal wellness? How would you define wellness in your life at this time, especially with your journey from telecom and being a father and a businessman? Like, that's not an easy road to navigate all the time. And you're here, and you're most grateful to be here, which is what you talked about before we started this podcast. So what exactly is a life well lived? What is wellness to you?
Happy, healthy, and free. The combination of these three things and aspects in my life, if they're present and at least, you know, to some extent present. Right. Maybe not fully at all times. That's, for me, life. And the happiness part is really important with that as well.
And happiness isn't like a light switch that you flick. It's how would you define happiness and how does that play out in your life?
It's not satisfaction. It's really the happiness that comes from the heart where you have joy that you feel not, you know, like, if I win a tennis match, I may be satisfied I won. Okay? But that's different from being just Happy. I get to play. That's the two differences.
You seem. You seem like you're very in touch with the young Philip inside of you. Well, you like to play.
Yeah, I like to play. And I used to be the guy that was only happy when he was also satisfied. You know, I used to be a kid that needed to win a tennis match to feel good.
I fall into that still.
And, yeah, and it's. It's a journey and. But it's. It's an experience, and it's. You get to experience that, and then you get to experience. You actually don't need that at all. And that's. That's not what leads to happiness at all. It's. It comes from a different place. And hey, yeah, that's. You know, we all have so many cool things we get to discover and experience, and, you know, that's what life is for.
I really like what you've created. I like the mission that you have in the world, and it's very fitting with your background. You know, I always feel like we. You talked about with your wife, with the sickness she went through, and now she can use that as a really, like, wedge or lever to help other people heal. It's the same thing with you. If I said it last time, I'll say it again. I find it utterly fascinating that you came from a world that uses 5G and EMF to really give people connectivity, but it's such a harmful frequency. And now look at you, ten plus years later, you're using the exact same opposite side of the frequency to help people heal, to help people connect. Don't you find that utterly ironic in your life path?
Yep. In the end of the day, that's. That's the fun, interesting journey. Yep.
I think so, too. Okay, you guys. So from my heart to yours, thank you for being here. Until Philip and I see you again, we're both wishing you love and wellness. We'll see you next week. Hey, thanks for watching this video. If you love this video, hit subscribe. That way you'll be automatically notified when new videos come out, new episodes, and also share this video with a friend. If you loved it, they're gonna love it too. Check out some of the videos on this one screen that are perfectly curated based on the video you just saw. Make sure you follow me and I'll see you in the next video.
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