Transcript of a conversation (YouTube) where Josh Trent and a speaker discuss CBD bioavailability across delivery methods (vape/safe vape, sublingual drops, oral/gummies), the rapid effects of inhalation (seconds to a minute), low absorption from gummies, and the synergistic benefits of combining vaporized CBD with breathwork to enhance parasympathetic response, vagal tone, and subjective relaxation/creativity. The speaker also notes product-development effort for a safer vaporizer cartridge and the potential importance of whole-plant cannabinoids for an entourage effect.
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Just from my own perspective, when I do the drops versus the vape, I notice with the vape, it's right away. So there's something with this bioavailability cbd. I think for many people right now, it's like they've heard of it, but there's not a lot of clarity around the ways that it gets in there. What's the pathways with the inhalation, with the sait vape tech or the drops or just eating in a gummy or food. Can you share what that's all about?
Yeah. I mean, when we look at cbd, there's all different types to take it. You're right. There's a lot of this gummy craze that came out. It's like, get CBD in your system. And so, yes. And a part of us is, well, let's take it orally, let's get into our stomach, let's get into our blood. But it can get into our bloodstream in other ways. Like the Safe8 technology we're talking about with the vaporizer, where we can simply push a button and healthy, in a healthy way, vaporize the CBD oil. And in this case, we add essential oils of lemongrass, bergamot, clary, sage and lavender into the blood system through the lungs. And so. And it happens in less than 10 seconds for most people. They can actually feel the calming effect.
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And so it's really interesting that you're pairing this with breath work because the lungs are, you know, like, we can go, what, days without water, we can go weeks without food, and some people, years, minutes without breathing. And so when you're putting this medicine into your lungs, it's literally getting into your body in the fastest way. And the bioavailability of having this vaporized CBD oil getting to your lungs and get into your blood system is a lot higher than an oil based tincture. As an example.
It's the absolute highest. I mean, when I did the research for the Breathe program, it was like, save vape was at the top and then right below that was putting it under your tongue for I think, one to five minutes. And then it was eating it in food. But honestly, like, the research on the gummies is that you're getting hardly any absorption whatsoever.
Maybe sometimes 4% if you're lucky.
So you're spending all this money on cbd, but you're not actually getting the CBD or you're getting the sugar, you're getting the candy.
So if you really look at the back of the label, this has Been really fascinating for me. So if you take a capsule of any supplement, it's usually about 500 milligrams. You take a gummy and you're going to see that the amount of grams of sugar are probably around 15 grams. That would mean 30 capsules of sugar. And so you're also, they're telling you they're putting 10 milligrams of CBD and you're lucky to get 0.04. So you're taking 30 capsules of sugar and you're getting like less than, like less than the amount you can put in your pinky fingernail of cbd.
And so why is there a range of milligrams where people can actually quote, feel it? Because the number one question we get with Wellness Force is like, what is it actually for? When will I actually feel it as regards to cbd? I know for vape, I feel it right away. Like I just did two polls with you here and like I'm relaxed.
Well, it's a, it's a really beautiful question because if you take a capsule and, and, or if you take CBD and you're not in tune, you're not sitting, you're not like actually noticing your, the difference then with a capsule that can be 20 in a water soluble version can be five to 20 minutes later, you start to feel the effects in an oil based tincture can be up to an hour or, or an hour and a half. You're back at life. You're not sitting down in meditative state going, how am I different now? You know, you're back at life and you might be in your car and there's no way it's. Because it's extremely subtle. I feel that people should understand that CBD is not like thc, its cousin where you're going to feel the effects of a euphoric or high. Yeah. And so you're going to be driving the car. If you're high, you're like, I'm high. I know this CBD is extremely subtle and it's working in your organs, working in your nervous system. It's actually calming down. I feel like it's like an internal massage. And so if you're not, if you're just out in life at the, at this shopping market or driving, you might not notice the effects. Sure. But if you're somebody that has a severe ailment or a disease or something like that, you can tend to notice the effects a little bit more drastic because you might be typically in pain or in discomfort.
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Or you the shakes or whatever it is you're thinking. So you can notice a little bit for. But for people that are healthy like you, it can be very subtle, unless it's a vape where it happens within 60 seconds, and you're like, oh, I noticed it.
It's right away. And I think there's a lot of great research and great press about the safe vape. And then, of course, there's these other huge, massive cartridges where they're filled with all this propylene glycol and all this honestly crap, right? This technology has completely been vetted out from any of those harmful things. I think there's five different ways that this is the safest product on the market, which we'll get into. But what drew me to this is I was creat this breathe program over the past year and a half, and I was like, okay, I wonder what would happen. This is in Thailand a year ago. I wonder what would happen if I combined CBD drops with breathwork. And I didn't really notice anything because the drops take, like, 20 to 30 minutes. And by that time, like, most catharsis journeys are over. So I started to just think about, you know, mutual friend of ours, Matt Stein. And then I was asking other people, like, where do I get something organic that's super healthy in a vape tech? So that I can see what would happen if we did it with breathing. And this is like six to eight months ago. And so I went back and forth, and I was looking over the whole market, and, like, nobody had anything. Like, no one had any organic CBD that was vape and that was safe. And so I finally found you. And right when I tried it, I knew right away, I was like, okay, I haven't even done breath work, and I'm already relaxed. So combining these two elements of the vagal nerve that's wired on the back of the diaphragm, doing this inhalation and exhalation in a rhythmic way. It already down cycles our nervous system to be more parasympathetic, combined with that quick inhalation at the hold portion on the breathwork. I have felt dramatic improvements in my breathwork practice. I mean, not just my ability to calm myself, but even, like, my creative flow. For a couple hours afterwards, I'm calling up people I haven't called before. I'm just, like, more full of love, you know? What do you think? I know the physiology and the biology, but what do you think is actually going on? Like, have you seen these two things? Melded before.
I mean, I feel like it's. No, I've never seen it melded before. And to pick up where you started is that it wasn't easy to develop this vaporizer cartridge. It took over a year in product development. Most people I've been in the industry seven years, they spend a week or two in product development to give a little bit of a comparison. And then second to answer your question is, you know, are people combining these two. No. But you saw a few articles a couple years ago of people doing yoga classes with edibles to get. When they were getting high. Yeah. Enable, like people to drop in and get into their body more. And if you're coming from on laptop or traffic and you're coming into yoga class, I think that cannabis on the THC side can be great. So I thought that's a great idea. I think they'll do well.
Not everybody can get high, though.
No. And what you're talking about, nor do they want to. So what you're talking about is something for anybody and everyday use that doesn't have side effects, that is extremely healthy. And every part of your body is being opened up thanks to breathwork. And so when you. When you're combining two things, there's like a plus one plus one scenario that starts to happen. That equals three. And that's what we also found with some of our combinations of our formulations, is that CBD is amazing. But if you don't have the other cannabinoids, cbg, cbn, cbc, some of these whole plant extracts. Yeah, excuse me. With it, you're not getting the entourage effect. And I believe what you're talking about is very similar to what about. You're talking breathwork and cbd. Breathwork's amazing. But you start adding in these other pieces of also and heightening it. Breath work and sound, healing. Breath work and cbd, they're very similar. Your body is going to be absorbing more of goodness, in this case cbd, because you're bringing all this oxygen into your system. You're opening up your system.
It's fascinating to me because I would think that we are probably the most stressed out as a culture we've ever been. Like, yes, life was harder 100 years ago in certain ways, but we also had longer periods of sunshine exposure and just working and being physical and connecting with one another. Like, we didn't have technology. We weren't as divided.
