UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF LOCKDOWNS 😷🏡...And why children have the most to lose | Wellness Force

Conversation between Josh Trent and Mike Mutzel about unintended consequences of COVID-19 lockdowns. Primary concerns in this chunk: social isolation causing depression and downstream health harms (addiction, weight gain, diabetes), and metabolic harms evidenced by continuous glucose monitor data. Host adds personal anecdote about a young family member suffering anxiety and depression from missed sports and social contact.
And from your studies, specifically around the unintended consequences and also your time in college, you know, with what you wrote with and the belly fat effect and everything else that you've worked on. Like, can you share with us, like, maybe the top three unintended consequences of what's really happening when we look at the plandemic syndemic of what we're experiencing right now?
Yeah, that's such a great question, Josh. You know, I think on the personal level and then we can look at populations, but on the individual level, I really think the biggest unintended harm that we're doing to ourselves is social isolation. We know that social isolation is linked. And gosh, there's this UCLA researcher, I'm drawing a blank on his name that has looked at the impact on physiology of being socially isolated is on par with smoking. And so I see a lot of depression amongst my clients. I've had several clients who start out our consult and they start crying and I just sit there and listen and breathe. And they are so emotionally frustrated. Frustrated that it's reverberating and causing deleterious health outcomes from weight gain to diabetes to all of this. So to me, that's the biggest thing. So then we're distancing ourselves and so then we compensate with things like junk food. We're trying to get that dopamine hit from maybe social media, from pornography, from gambling, from opiate deaths, all this. So to me, I think that's the biggest thing because we, as you mentioned earlier, we are tribal creatures and our online tribes are polarizing us in crazy ways. So I think that's the biggest thing. I think various studies have actually looked at continuous glucose monitor measurements from type 1 diabetics throughout the world, throughout. Lockdowns. Lockdowns are not good for your blood sugar. And what's kind of paradoxical about that, about the lockdowns is they're making people more susceptible to severe outcomes. So this is the thing where, like our treatment is, is increasing the probability that when these people are exposed, they're gonna suffer more severely from the disease that we're trying to prevent them from being harmed by. And so it's like this really interesting. And again, this is data driven. This isn't some right wing conspiracy QANON stuff. This is scientific science. Scientists have been talking about this. How many people.
I'm sorry to interrupt you because the point you made is huge. Before we go into the other ones, how many people watching or listening can feel what Mike is saying? But beyond just like looking at A published data study of behavioral psychology. How many people can feel what's actually going on right now when you are being, quote, forced to stay at home in a lockdown, not have other people in your life? Personally, I'm not gonna name names, but I have a family member and I am actually going to see him this weekend to console and give him emotional strength because he's a young man. He's dealing with incredible anxiety and depression and stress from not being able to play his lacrosse, not being able to play sports, and being forced to sit down, be quiet, wear a mask, and do what you're told. And it breaks my effing heart. I mean, it literally breaks my heart because I'm thinking, we all need to stand up right now. This is not the time to be silent. This is not the time to kowtow that emotional piece like you talked about with your clients being depressed and whatnot. I had to tell you that because it really hits home for me, like my heart actually constricted when you were talking about it. So please continue, man, because there's other points that are going on that are really an unintended consequence of this lockdown, of this BS.
I'm with you 100%. And my third kind of thing that I was going to mention on both the individual level and societal level is the negative impact on children. Because children, first of all, I mean, if we just look at their risk of having severe outcomes really low. I think out of. There's 100 million people under the age of 21 in this country, maybe 120 million. And I think all of like 200 people have died. And so you're like, well, if that's. That's one of your. That was my child. Maybe I would talk about this differently, but on a. We have to focus on maximizing what's called quality adjusted life years qualities. That's what we're talking about. We're never going to prevent every single death that's never going to happen. People die. I mean, that's just the reality of 100% of everyone listening to this right now. The probability of you dying is 100%. It's just when. So we need to maximize what's called the qualities, the quality adjusted life years. And our strategies ought to focus on maximizing those quality adjusted life years. Children have the largest bank account, so to speak, of Quality adjusted life years to lose. And so our intervention strategies are literally chipping away at their. Potent. At their. We're taking massive withdrawals from their quality adjusted life year bank account. And look, I have family members that I deeply care about that are over the age of 70. Right. With all due respect, they don't have their bank account of quality adjusted life years is not, they don't have as much to withdraw from because they're, they're older. So we need to look at the pool of quality adjusted life years and focus on, and this is called an aggregated public health model and say, look, if we only focus on just the elderly, well then we're going to chip away and take massive withdrawals from the young people who have the most to lose. So this is where we need a more targeted. And this is the beauty of like coming from a functional medicine perspective. You know, mainstream medicine is like, everyone get the same thing no matter what. Every baby born needs hepatitis B no matter what. You're like, well, are they going to be exposed to hepatitis B as a newborn that is transmitted for, from sex and IV drugs? Probably not. So this is where kind of having this framework of personalizing precision or personalized medicine and individualizing the treatment. And we should be doing that on a societal level. And like you mentioned your family members, I have teens, they are being disproportionately affected by this and these changes early in life. The recidivism if you're overweight or depressed or diabetic as a young person, that doesn't just suddenly go away when you're. A lot of people carry this on. And the epigenetic imprinting that's occurring from say pregnant mothers that are super stressed. What are the health ramifications of those children that have yet to be born? The microbiome changes in toddlers and all the sanitization. We were in Hawaii kind of unplugging and all that. Seeing people at our hotel just spraying, sanitizing these kids with Lysol wipes and they're in diapers. I'm thinking to myself, oh my gosh, if people only knew. The data showing that that changes bacteria that can link or link with asthma, allergy, atopy, obesity. So Josh, I think all of us need to take a step back and realize that we're going to be exposed to this. But hand washing, sanitizing, distancing and all that is just one piece of the puzzle. And we need to also focus on lifestyle stuff and maximize the quality adjusted life years for the population, not just the elderly. So during that video I was joking around and exaggerating the point that we'll talk about right now. A lot of people, they touch their phone, they're in bathroom. They're on the commode, whatever. Then they touch their mask, they move their mask. Even Fauci himself. I remember a video in June where he was at some sort of press conference at the White House, and he was touching his mask like 30 times. So we touch our mask a lot. And then so we. Our hands are really dirty. So when I was making that video, I touched my eye. No kidding, Josh. I had an infected eye for, like, two and a half weeks just from that. And people were like, no, that's not what caused it. And I did slow motion on the video. So I went like this. And I really egregiously touched my eye to make a point. And so the point is our hands are super dirty. And so we're touching this thing. We're putting our mask around our phone in our pocket. So that, to me, I think the unintended harm could be increased exposure to pathogens just from our hands and our phone being out in the environment. So I think that's a major source of unintended harm. I think the other source, kind of independent of masking, is sanitizing everything and a reduction of the exposure and the diversity of microbes, especially for children. This may not be so important for adults because our immune system has been appropriately or inappropriately educated from our early life environment. But children and their immune system, while it's developing during the first, say, six years of life, it's being influenced and educated by their environmental exposure to bugs and their own microbiome and so forth, reducing the diversity there. We're essentially shortchanging them of education that can help them later in life avoid things like autoimmune disease, skin disorders, atopy, depression, and even obesity. So I think that, to me, is a big disservice. So I think maybe people will call me irresponsible, but if your kid's playing with another kid, take the mask off. I mean, let them get exposed to stuff because they have the biggest. They have the most to lose from. From 24. 7 mask.
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