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In this podcast excerpt, Josh Trent reflects on a deeply depressive period that coincided with his book reaching number one and selling millions of copies. He describes the expectation that such external success should bring happiness, yet finds that achieving his dream leaves unresolved inner problems. He notes that hoping for a goal feels more satisfying than attaining it, and shares a piece of advice his grandmother gave him—"wherever you go, there you are"—highlighting the need for self‑awareness and internal fulfillment beyond external accolades.

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