Josh TrentIdentity Transformation Architect and award winning Host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast—a decade-strong show with over 750 episodes and 15M downloads.

Winning won’t make you well #successmindset #freedom #podcastclips

5 Jul 2024 · 1 min

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Short transcript excerpt from a YouTube podcast clip where Josh Trent and a guest named John discuss the limits of chasing success. John recounts an anecdote about an executive unable to stop pursuing wins despite sacrificing family time and asks the core question "for what?" Josh reframes success as relational and legacy-oriented (do your children want to spend time with you?) and states his personal purpose: to help liberate people.

You said something that hit me in the heart so deeply. You said, winning won't make you well. What exactly do you mean by that?
I just was meeting with a group of executives last week and one guy was sitting with his wife. It was couples and he's 50 something years old, he's cashed out and he can't take his foot off the gas. I just stand there and looked at his wife and she's watching their golden years that she's been waiting for for the 20s and 30s and 40s when he missed holidays and late nights and all this stuff, miss kid stuff. For this magic moment, I looked at him and said, dude, for what? He goes, I have to win. I said, for what? Right? And I think that's the question that most of us avoid most of our lives. The for what question.
Real success is when you get older, do your kids want to hang out with you? Do they actually want to spend time with you? That's the biggest reward because what are we doing all this for anyways, John?
What?
Why? Why am I doing any of this? Why do I want to reach millions of people? It sure is hell ain't to have my face on a billboard so I can feel better about myself. It's so I can help people liberate themselves. That is my for what.