Zach Bush: The Consciousness Shift Humanity IGNORES

Way of seeing more life on planet Earth than has happened in the 200,000 year brief history of humankind. We could participate on that level. And that gives me great, great.

Hello, everyone, it's Josh Trent. I'm here with a very, very, very special guest, Dr. Zach Bush. Thank you for coming on Wellness for us. Welcome to Facebook Live as well.

Wonderful to be here with you and the audience in the world. Special thing to be alive and right now with 7 billion people.

That's right. You know, so many people have been following you, whether it's on Rich Roll podcast or just the incredible work that you're doing with farmer's footprint. But most people don't know this about you. The connection that you have, if they just learned about your work to the soil and the way that the earth, you know, the humus is how the earth has lungs and we have that same thing inside of us. And so this connection between the two, for people that don't know you, what do you feel right now in this moment that is top of heart for you in regards to your work? You know what, what is really on the top of your consciousness and heart in this very moment right now with all that's going on in the world?

I am overwhelmed, really on a regular basis over the last few months of work as I've been putting a huge deep research dive and public presentation of what is the Virome, what is really being done by viruses in the world. And the deeper I look, the more profound beauty you find that mother nature has, from the very origins of life on this planet, been utilizing this information stream of genomic transfer that we call viruses is the most exquisite of design in not just communication for sustaining life, but communication for expanding life. And there's something deeply true about the physics behind that and that the universe is expanding for reasons that we still don't understand. Each planet is each solar system and each galaxy getting further and further away from one another. It defies our tiny little perspective from this little blue dot that floats out in a remote outcast in a small galaxy in the middle of billions and billions of other galaxies. We don't have the perspective to understand expansion. This little tiny planet, Mother Nature has designed herself such that when there is cataclysmic events, she responds with more life and more biodiversity. We've had five massive extinctions in the fossil record. We're in the midst of the sixth extinction. And what we see in the truth of the planet is that when she sees death, it is an opening and an opportunity for more life than ever existed before. And I want to honor all of the families that have lost somebody in recent weeks, whether from influenza, pneumonia, Covid cancer, heart disease, all the things that claim anybody in any given day of the week. I want to recognize that those deaths in their perfect timing, even if we can't see or rationalize why it's perfect, in the perfect timing of the recycling of life, more life comes behind it with more vigor and more biodiversity. And you might not be able to see it right now. Biodiversity is collapsing. And so you have to say, well, that's not working right now, Zach, because it's the same thing in the fall as you see all of the greenery of the planet dry up and apparently die. And the next week there's even more dry dead leaves. And the next week there's no leaves left on the trees. And it looks like there's been just devastation to the world's forests. It's because there's a massive storage event happening of energy and creativity within the womb of Mother Nature. We go back into that womb in this point of contraction of the human spirit in moments of fear and contractions of, of species as we lose one species to extinction every 20 minutes. Now, as we go this collapse, there is an utter beauty beneath the surface there. There's this extraordinary, glorious anticipation and planning and orchestration, if you will, of this symphony of life that's going to come next. We have a couple options, like we get to either see and witness and be witness to that extinction event as spiritual and biologic beings that can acknowledge life passing, feel the, feel all the appropriate emotions and spiritual existential experiences in that we should do that no matter what. But we also might have the opportunity to change everything and change the course such that this sixth extinction is not going to follow the course of the other five where we lost 85 to 97% of life on Earth. What if we halted it here at a 50% loss of life and then got to play, and then got to play in that co creative regenerative journey into the near future that could be just a couple decades away of seeing more life on planet Earth than has happened in the 200,000 year brief history of humankind. We could participate on that level and that gives me great, great hope.

Wow, the depth in which you speak is so profound because so many people right now are asking a big question. And that is, oh my gosh, this is what death looks like. Death of ecosystems, death of regenerative soils, death of the way that we used to live, death of an unconscious capitalistic model that no longer can squeeze water out of the towel. There's so many things dying right now. So from that death, what. What do you see coming through from your perspective? Like, if something's dying here, which it is, so many things, what's taking the place of that with new life?

I think we. So this is kind of like we're in that moment, I feel like, where a mother is about to find out that she's behavior changes in a weird way. Recent article. A great study showed that Amazon now knows when a woman is pregnant before she knows she's pregnant because they can track her behaviors. And there's subtle, predictable shifts in her behavior as she has this quickening, and it's mapped out in her consumer behavior and what she's looking at and what she's interested in. And she doesn't even know she's pregnant yet. I'm fascinated by that quickening. And I think that humanity is having a quickening as we enter the womb of this global shutdown. I think we picked this as a people. And I'm seeing this. I'm seeing people that could easily be working right now that are saying, well, Covid's here, so I can't work. No bs. You wanted a break. You wanted to take a break.

We've all been longing for pause. We've all been longing for this deep breath.

Absolutely. And now I don't have to travel every week to go talk to people. People have come comfortable enough that, well, Zach's on zoom. That's good enough. Fantastic. That just saved me three days of exhaustion and travel and everything else we needed the pause. We're in the womb. We don't even know we're in the womb right now. We think we have a pandemic going on. We think we have all this stuff and none of those numbers are going to work out. We are seeing through the glass very darkly right now on the truth around the pandemic. But what we in is a womb like pause. And it's not gentle. You know, I want to recognize that there are families out there. 57% of households in America before this all happened were one paycheck away from going into debt or bankruptcy. And checks have been stopped for months now for many households. And the level of abuse that's happening in homes today. I was just on a phone call this morning from top officials in the government, and I was overwhelmed by the sadness of it. The amount of child abuse, the amount of spousal abuse, the amount of substance abuse going on Right now in these households that have no hope of recovery in the near future because they're so far in debt, their credit cards are maxed out, they've lost their jobs, and it's being taken out on the most vulnerable of them. So I don't want to paint some bucolic picture of this. Volcanoes are not gentle transformers. And none of the cataclysmic events that change the course of the planet are gentle. And there's great tragedy and life loss happening right now around the planet. Only a small amount of it has anything to do with the COVID virus. The tragedies that are at hand are a long standing human behavior of self abuse that then trickles into familial abuse and abuse of the planet. Because we know the golden rule, treat others as you would treat yourself. Because we've never really loved ourselves and we don't know how to see the beauty in ourselves, to fall in love with ourselves. We treat others as we treat ourselves, which is not very pretty. And so this crisis that we're in is really putting a pressure cooker on the former consciousness and behavior of humankind. And if we don't take the opportunity to really rebirth in this chapter, and I don't know if the chapter is a few weeks long, months long, or if we have a few decades ahead where we have to transform, but if we decide in these next few weeks, as the government says, okay, all's well now, we were wrong, you're ready to go. If we go back to normal, that is where we were 12 weeks ago, we will just follow on down to our own extinction. There needs to be a rebirth, a quickening. And I think I see it happening across the world right now where that we're about to have a baby kind of realization is really real. That real there's new life coming through us, is really quite possible.

Well, as a physician, you know that the sodium potassium pump in the body and the high low pressure in nature. Nature has these irrefutable laws like there's no such thing in nature as year over year over year growth. It doesn't exist. Yet we've treated nature as if it does. And the way that we've been abusing Mother Earth, I feel like I'm curious how you feel we have become. Our behavior at least has become a virus to Mother Earth. And so this COVID virus to me resembles Mother Earth shedding a virus of itself.

No, I think that's eloquent. I think that's, you know, plays out pretty well in the biology Right now, you know, the physiology that I've been sharing for the last couple weeks is pretty beautiful. You know that people are not dying of, of some respiratory virus. We know that COVID patients showing up. 5,700 patients published in a recent paper out of New York City. 5,700 patients showing up. And it has all their vital signs, all their initial laboratories, etc. And their average temperature is stone cold normal. They don't have a fever, their white blood cell count totally normal, no leukocyte shift suggesting a viral infection. They have no change in respiratory rate, they have no change in any of the things. There's Nothing on that 5700 patient that make it look like that is an infected group. There's nothing that says infection. What it said shows us is a toxin poisoning to the red blood cell. And so the red blood cells have been poisoned to a small percentage of people around the world. And the pockets of those poisonings have happened in the highest rates of air pollution in the whole world, beginning at the most toxic air in any given year being Wuhan province, where the whole thing began. And that 2.5 micron air pollution, which is a very well tracked phenomenon that all governments track in their own environments and NASA tracks for the world. We know that 2.5 every microgram increase in 2.5 micron air pollution is a 20 fold increase in risk of death from this viral syndrome that we have going on. Well, 20 fold increase in death is more than any virus in history. And then if we treat that wrong, if we treat it like a respiratory failure as if it was pneumonia instead of a poisoning of the red blood cell, then we increase that again death toll. Out of that recent New England journal article, I think it was, maybe it was JAMA for New York City. We have an 88% death toll in US hospitals from this syndrome. 88% death toll is higher than Ebola or any other condition in history. On the cruise ships where we had absolutely no medical care for elderly people with an average age, on those cruise ships over 70, we had a 0.1% death rate. And so we're doing better job sequestering elderly people with comorbidities on cruise ships with no health care than we are putting them in ICUs in New York. We've lost the forest for the trees. As medical people, as scientists and all the rest because of the fear that has been baked into the story about a virus we are not seeing. The clear picture of this is literally air toxins, cyanide being a very Likely player here because cyanide poisoning looks exactly like what these patients are showing up with. They show up blue, very low oxygen concentrations, without any signs of infection, and then they develop multi organ failure, confusion, delirium, and then die of weeks later of pneumonia. That's cyanide poisoning's journey. You can read and just google cyanide poisoning and then read a New York Times article about what these patients see is clear as day. We have to, as physicians be cut free of the fear of some deadly mysterious virus. Come to quickly realize we've seen coronaviruses every year since at least 740 years back. There's some good data saying our first register, you know, recorded coronaviruses were 1200 years back. And so for hundreds of years we've been seeing many, many millions, perhaps variants of coronavirus. And so now we have this new one. There's no reason we should describe any fearful or terrifying quality to it. It happens that it binds air pollution at the 2.5 micron size and it binds to the surface of the lung appropriately because the lung is designed to absorb that genetic information. So a benign update to the genomic code comes in the form of a virus produced by another human. The human carries that over air pockets, over oceans or respiratory droplets for a few feet. But the aerial transportation of this is global. The lung is designed to take in a certain amount of this genetic information, not to overwhelm the body. Most of us are breathing it in and we're fine. Maybe some of us get a couple days of fatigue, a little bit of achiness, a little brain fog and then it clears. Some people will then get fever five days or ten days after that experience. And that's because there's secondary pneumonia or bacterial things going on related to the lack of antioxidants and other things in your body, or related to the hypoxic injury that happened at the tissue level. But that's downstream. It's not the viral transition at all. Then we screw up that balance that I just described by putting people on pharmaceutical drugs for the three things that people have actually been shown to increase risk of dying, which is cardiovascular disease, kidney disease and diabetes. Why are people with those conditions dying of a lung virus? We were told that this was a lung virus. Why are those copd? The primary lung condition is the fourth down the list of comorbidities that increase your risk of death. The top three are treated by demand of the American Medical association and everybody else with two drugs, an ACE inhibitor and a statin drug. Cardiovascular disease Diabetes and kidney disease have to be on those two drugs. The main symptom caused by an ACE inhibitor that usually requires us to withdraw the drug is cough because it sensitized the lung through upregulating all the receptors that happen to bind to coronavirus, common cold coronavirus. Coronaviruses are all over the place all the time. They're not the only virus that binds to the ACE2 receptor. And so we create cough all the time. And you ask any physician out there in the primary care or cardiovascular world and ask them what's the most common side effect of ACE inhibitors? And it's cough. And so ACE inhibitors. And if you have to take them off an ACE inhibitor, then you put them on an ARB, an angiotensin receptor blocker, and that drug upregulates ACE2 receptors too. So whether you're on an ARB or an ACE inhibitor and the combination with a statin, you've just upregulated all of these things. It turns out that COPD, without the pharmaceutical drugs, also upregulates ACE2. And so now we know that pharmaceuticals are more potent at upregulating that receptor for the population than as even emphysema, which we thought previously was the highest rates of ACE2 expression, but that's fourth on the list. So cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic kidney disease, pharmaceutical. Isaac. And then suddenly there's a whole bunch of binding sites for the virus to come in. And it's not still the virus that's doing the damage. It's on the back of the virus is tagged a little particle of air pollution that's carrying cyanide. And so, and not just cyanide, 64 other terrible toxins, you know, that could be causing the hypoxia. So I don't know if I'm right about cyanide, but it's definitely one of those toxins carried on that air pollution that seems to be the thing that's tracking into people's bodies and causing death.

What I'm hearing from the reason that's. I'm sorry to interrupt you. What I'm hearing from you is that within the air, because of the micron size that this virus gets inhaled from, we're also seeing it attached to other things that are toxic in the air, which then upregulates, as you said, the ways that it can be more deleterious to our health. Is that true?

That's true, yeah. And that's been shown before. This thing we know, that PM2.5, which is mortality, has actually been a relatively Low year for that. In the United States and abroad, we see a lot of people dying of cancer right now. We see a lot of people dying from heart disease right now. We see a lot of people dying from autoimmune conditions. Our mortality went up this year significantly because of the toxicity of the planet. We've never dumped more chemicals than we have in the last year. And I don't think it's surprising necessarily that the US Is seeing some of the highest mortality around the world right now, because what happened in China and South Korea, as soon as this thing happened and we thought it was a virus killing us, we went and sprayed insecticide and toxic chemicals into the air all over Korea and China to try to sterilize the environment, which then it goes airborne and ends up in Seattle and New York a couple months later. Not even months, weeks later, that's in the air of Seattle and New York. And so that band of air that travels across the globe all the time is carrying the toxicity of our fear, our chemical fear, our chemical response to a toxin that was developed from our chemical behavior of transportation and energy sectors. And so in our constant belief that we are at war with nature and we are at war with all the germs, we are killing ourselves ever faster. And it's ludicrous. And it is sad because we've got 20, 30 years of data in the microbiome to know that it's the microbiome that prevents cancer, it's the microbiome that prevents autoimmune disease, acne, you know, depression, anxiety disorders, sleep disorders, infertility. It's all the microbiome. And yet somehow from this ridiculous fear story that got, suddenly the whole world, including scientists, are like, okay with killing every organism on Earth. You know, it's just a very, very sad, low vibration event to me.

And thank you for this deep, deep explanation. There's so many things you've mentioned that I've never heard, and I know so many people have not heard them either. So thank you for this education, really, this, this expansion of consciousness that you have been such a leader for. You know, one thing that I've been seeing in your work and with Farmer's footprint and with ion and even before, you know, years ago, you were one of the first people on scene that really described the microbiome. And the fact that if we just get out of the way of nature, if we stop trying to meddle with nature and just be in harmony with her, you know, these laws of nature, they're actually here to serve us they're here to help us. So when we're putting a mask on and when we're spraying and lysoling and all these things from both a spiritual consciousness and also a medical perspective, what's really happening there?

When we put a mask on, we're killing ourselves. I mean, really, it's that blatant. And I don't mean to startle people, everything we're doing is killing ourselves. Every time we put a boundary between nature and ourselves, we kill ourselves. And so the proof of that is even beyond biology. You really geek out when you get into the physics world. So I don't want to get too esoteric here, but the second law of thermodynamics and physics is one of the most tried and true truths in science. And it's profound. I mean really, there should not, nobody should ever be elected to any political position in the world without understanding the second law of thermodynamics. It's very simple. It says that any system put into isolation will increase its entropy. Entropy is a word for chaos.

Sure.

Any system put into isolation increases chaos within that system. That works for a solar system, it works for a planet. It works for, you know.

Is it the same type relationship?

It works for your own psyche. The, you know, the most potent penalty that we give in the penile system is sensory deprivation through solitary confinement. It's the worst thing we can do to human is isolate them. They, their entropy increases. They suddenly start having visual hallucinations, auditory hallucinations, paranoia. They start pulling out their own hand, they'll scratch their faces off. It is a horrific amount of chaos that happens when you isolate. And that's why depression is so freaking dangerous. Is your first reaction to depression is socially is your entropy is going to go up. And so the same terrifying thing that happens with chronic disease. You get diagnosed with cancer, you don't want to talk to anybody because you're tired of everybody being like, oh, I'm so sorry, how are you? That kind of BS kind of reaction is not what you want around you when you're a cancer patient. So you isolate and entropy goes up and then you die of cancer a few years later. We need to realize that the second law of thermodynamics could redesign sociopolitical systems, socioeconomic systems, business structure, spiritual and religious practices, Everything needs to be redesigned. When you start to come to terms with any isolation of any system is going to increase entropy and chaos. The exact opposite is true. The more connectivity any system has, the less stress it's going to have. The less chaos is going to be in that system. What we should have done when we heard about this virus is we should have sent everybody out into family reunions in every national park around the world. We would have immediately. All death would have stopped because we weren't dying of a virus. We were dying of a virus attached to PM2.5 air pollution, carrying cyanide. If we had just gone and parked ourselves in campsites all over the world and stopped driving around, the whole thing would have passed over like a gentle hand of genetic updating so that we could get the necessary information. Corona and the other, you know, 10 to the 31 viruses in our air, 10, another 10 to the 31 viruses in our soil, another 10 to the 31 viruses in our. Our ocean water. You know, 10 to the 31 is 10 million times more than stars in the entire universe. Okay? Like this is. 10 to the 31 is a grotesquely huge number. That's how many viruses we breathe any given year on the surface of this planet. Viruses are not against us. If they were, we would be dead so long ago, it's ludicrous. We never would have developed as a species a mere 200,000 years ago, because the viruses started 4 billion years ago. Like, we've got this whole paradigm ass backwards, upside down, flipped over and used to create economic shift. And so we are seeing the biggest consolidation of wealth in human history into just a few hands, and it's over. Nothing are people taught.

There's so much there to unpack. I think about what I read in the Price Pottinger work and also Weston A. Price, nutrition and physical degeneration. He said, if you looked at the healthiest people in the world, it was farmers and the sons and daughters of farmers because they get their hands dirty. They're actually in relation with the humus, with the soil. They're in that bacteria all day long. Is it true that there isn't really any such thing as bad bacteria? I mean, isn't the world all a homeostatic system that supports life in all ways? Like, is there really such a thing as this killer virus, this Covid. Does it even exist?

Certainly exists for a good purpose. It's really important. You know, as soon as I heard about coronavirus, I was like, I was ready to get it. Like, that's an important update because it's coming out of the most damaged ecosystem on the planet. Wuhan is the most toxic ecosystem on the planet. We spray more glyphosate into the area around Wuhan and Hubei province. There than anywhere else in the world right now. And so you have the highest level of genomic stress on the planet from the microbiome combined with the biggest pork operation in the world. We raise more chemical farmed swine in that country than any other country in the world. The swine stool is so toxic in the US and Chinese production systems that it's illegal to transport the stool because it's considered biohazard waste because the amount of antimicrobial chaos going in from all the antibiotics we feed these animals. And so this toxic stew of the microbiome there is sending out a genomic update which I find fascinating. We now have some new piece of genome, There's a new strand of RNA within the new coronavirus that's a little different than sars. SARS presented, by the way, just like this. Blue patients, multi organ failure. Then a few days later, lungs fill with water and then you get pneumonia and death if you don't do anything about it. It's a Hypoxic injury for SARS 18 years ago and today we didn't learn that.

Can you share with the audience what that means? A hypoxic injury?

Yeah. So if you want to look up this to get a real deep dive, it's called histotoxic hypoxemia or histotoxic hypoxia. And histotoxic is spelled H Y S T O. No. Hi, I'm having a complete brain fog here. Moment. Histotoxic, his T o toxic. Hypoxia is a chemical change in the shape of hemoglobin, which is the protein within a red blood cell that carries oxygen. It's a very unique molecule. It's a huge protein, complicated, almost looks like a complicated Irish knot. The way this protein ties itself into these four pockets for four oxygen molecules to bind into every red blood cell. It's eloquent. Beautiful piece of design. What happens when cyanide and other toxins get into the red blood cells? It changes the shape of the hemoglobin such that they can no longer bind oxygen. So now it doesn't matter. If you breathe 100% oxygen on a respirator at 30 breaths a minute, at 10 pounds of pressure, you can't push enough oxygen into the human body to do anything because the raft ran out, lost its air. The raft that needs to carry that from the lung to a peripheral tissue. 70 billion other cells need that oxygen. They can't get it because the life raft of the oxygen carrier of hemoglobin got damaged. So cyanide poisoning is a cyanide in this case, I think from air pollution binding again to the virus. Virus carries cyanide into the bloodstream, bloodstream goes into a loss of oxygen carrying capacity and the patient turns blue. When a tissue like the lung, liver, kidneys are starved of oxygen, they have a massive cellular damage event. And so that's why two to three days later those lungs are going to flu fill with fluid. It'll start within a few hours. But it really gets bad over the next couple days is because there's so much tissue injury, not from any virus, because there was no oxygen. Our patients are dying from a lack of oxygen carrying capacity, not a lack of respiratory capacity or lack of oxygen in the atmosphere or lack of oxygen in the respirator machine. They're dying because we're not treating the hemoglobin in a bizarre way. Our president, in his bizarrely fumbling way actually had one of the only tools out there identified early on, which is hydroxychloroquine. And he got laughed off the stage by medicine and scientists and all these people and said that he had special interests in stock in the company and blah, blah. I'd be surprised if Donald Trump doesn't have stock in every single freaking company in the world. So that's why he said that. But I think he said it because he was getting messages from around the world that if you treated very early with hydroxychloroquine, you were seeing improvements, function. It turns out that hydroxychloroquine, yes, it is an antimalarial and does that, but the main thing that it does is change the shape of the red blood cell. Malaria is a parasite that attacks the red blood cell. And so it turns out that he's probably stone cold, right, that hydroxychloroquine is one of the few medications that somebody could reach for to help improve oxygen carrying capacity of the blood when they see a cyanide poisoning. Now it turns out that it's a much more effective approach called cyanide poisoning kit that takes just three quick injections and then you change the shape of the hemoglobin into meth hemoglob and it does fine. And so we can treat cyanide poisoning in a matter of minutes, not weeks on a respirator where they're dying from pneumonia. And so I've been getting this out to the medical community through different paths in the last couple of weeks, begging our physicians on the front lines to start using the simple cyanide kit that every single hospital has. And you'll see if it works. If I'm even remotely right, you'll see that change right in front of your eyes. In five minutes, you'll know that you just saved that person's life. And so it's because they're not dying of a virus. They're dying of a toxicity to the red blood cell and can't carry that oxygen around.

And I think on top of that, I also want to repeat what you said in the beginning and always, that I have deep compassion for the people that are losing family members. And this is in no way something that I'm about to say that is disrespectful. It's actually honoring these lives that have been lost. There is, like you said that moment before, there's a birthing of new. There's all these things that pass, there's these things that die. And I look at the way that the medical system, the insur insurance and also the pharmaceutical, you know, this axis, this triangle, has been operating for so long. And I think about what you actually shared in multiple interviews about operating on someone that had a massive growth from diabetes. And you were going in there and you started to see how the cellular makeup was the exact same way that a city looked when you flew over it, and how nature shows up in so many different sections of life. And you had a moment right there that changed your life, that actually spiraled you into a depression, but then gave you this brand new way to share your love and share your medicine with the world. Can you tell people that story? That story is so powerful.

I appreciate that. Yeah. So that day happened around 2009, end of 2009. I was studying chemotherapy development around vitamin A compounds that can induce cell suicide and cancer. So I was looking almost on a daily basis in my lab at cancer cells growing in normal tissues or whatnot, in pathologic specimens of cancer. And you see that in a cancer. So cancer grows just like Los Angeles does from the air. Cancer has an epicenter, and then it quickly outstrips its own capacity for producing energy. So it needs to send out long tentacles of vascular, neural supply, lymphatics, all of this to bring more resources to this extremely damaged and unsustainable tumor that is so damaged, it can't produce its own energy anymore. Los Angeles is a hugely damaged system, can't produce its own energy. Not enough food supply for way too many cells in the same confined space that have been consolidated through unnatural processes. And so it needs to Send out these huge tentacles of highways, train systems, flight patterns all over the world to bring nutrients and resources back to this tumor. And so I had recognized that pattern in cancer in cities around that time of research. And it was a poignant, I think colorful thing. But what happened that day is I was working in the lab, suddenly realized we're running late for clinic, jumped up from the microscope, hadn't really closed my mind on the microscope experience, Rushed over to my clinic, sat down in front of a patient who had this big diabetic ulcer and started debriding that ulcer as you described. And got to this point where suddenly I saw this necrotic tissue spreading out through healthy tissue. And it looked exactly like the tumor I had just been looking at minutes before. And that was this moment of singularity where I was like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? It's a piece of tissue that didn't have enough resources. It died of lack of resources. So the necrotic ulcer is only next step beyond cancer. And the reason we call it an ulcer is just because we didn't think bigger about those simple issues of supply and demand. We call it a cancer because we didn't think of the simple supply and demand issues that started having imbalance 20 years ago and now the patient has cancer. And so it's just this moment of singularity where all disease is one thing. It's an irresponsible or unsustainable distribution of demand and supply. And when we can't meet supply, systems start to break down. You get riding at the tissue level, Sequestration of lack of resources, all of this kind of things. And ultimately that little tumor that's only represents maybe 1% of a human body will kill the whole body, sucking nutrients out. If you've ever seen somebody die of end stage cancer, they'll soak up every last fat cell in their body to go try to fuel that small tumor in their body. And it might be a big tumor, but even if it's a 5 centimeter tumor, that's still a tiny piece in a big human body. And so it's the realization that when we see metabolic demand supersede the tissue's own capacity for resilience and provision, it will start to act like a cancer in the body. And I think humanity became that for the planet many years ago.

Yeah, and this is what was a reckoning for you, where you no longer went down the path of creating the next best drug. You 180. Your treatment about the human form you said, I'm actually going to heal the human by healing the Earth, because it's all connected. And I don't care if you're logical or spiritual. We all know that when we hear something like that, the truth sticks to our soul, the truth sticks to our heart. Like if we can't let the Earth breathe, how are we supposed to breathe properly? The microbiome, which you're a world renowned specialist on, your company Ion Biome, which we're going to talk about, all the ways that we treat the soil, the lungs of our planet, it's the same way that we're treating ourselves and our brothers and sisters. And I have to tell you, like, I was really angry today, like I was in touch with my sacred anger. Because our brothers and sisters are giving away their power, wearing their masks, sitting down, not speaking their truth. This type of information, this conversation needs to be shared across the planet and more because we get to pay attention to how the Earth is breathing. So share with us, how is the Earth actually breathing right now? Like, what is the current state of affairs with how our mother is breathing?

She's suffocating right now. So Mother Earth breathes through her soils and oceans and the ocean can bring in about 90 gigatons of carbon a year. And the ocean produces 90 gigatons of carbon a year. So it's very balanced ecosystem that's developed over 4 billion years of a water based planet. Through her grace, the mother ocean can also absorb another 2 gigatons of carbon. If there's excess in the atmosphere, that may be to our own demise. Because if you kill enough of the soil and you can't absorb the carbon that the soil is supposed to breathe, which is huge, like 2400 gigatons compared to the 90 gigatons of the ocean. So with soils breathing in 2400 gigatons through our irritable soils. So anything that we think of farmable soils, that's where the humus is at. We also have humus in the high Siberian environment in northern Russia, China, up through Canada and Alaska and all that. That's the only semblance of breathing soils we have left on the planet. We have thoroughly killed it. There's a little spot in the middle of the Amazon that's still struggling to hang on right now as we continue to burn that jungle down. But we have just this rim of breath at the top of the planet in the tundra space because we were unable to farm there. But 97% of the land that's farmable has been depleted of its capacity to breathe in carbon. So we see huge carbon deficits in the soil, which means that the plant life there is slow to grow. It needs all of these chemical inputs and everything else to fake it out because the soil is really dead and has turned into dirt rather than soil. Soil is an extraordinary living entity. Dirt is a pile of dust that doesn't have much life left in it. And we're in the largest dust bowl in history in the United States and other western countries, Australia included, We're losing something like 2 tons of topsoil per acre. We have 125 million active acres of farmland in the United States. You add that up the cost of a ton of soil, and you multiply that out across 125 million acres losing their topsoil at that rate. You realize we're losing 11% of our gross domestic product in soil every year now. And so 11% of $17 trillion, over a trillion dollars of natural resources being washed down the Mississippi river and other tributaries within our country because we so destroyed the soil architecture. I have been preaching against Roundup for years, and it was really devastating when I found out Roundups only hacked through the soil. Health Academy experts, Ph.D. in soil science there, Alan Williams, who's in our film and all that, quickly taught us that, yes, chemicals can completely annihilate. They function as potent antibiotics in the soil systems. You can kill 50% of deep living earthworms with one application. You can kill 100% of the top living earthworms with one application of Roundup. So, yes, you totally devastate that environment around. But then it's the next steps there after is plowing. And so when you over plow a field, you murder the mycelial bed beneath it and you lose nutrient trafficking. And so farmers who start to get desperate to control weeds will just start over disking. If you're an organic farmer and you cannot spray, round up another potent herbicides and pesticides. Organic farmers, unfortunately, still have quite a cadre of toxins they can spray, but they tend to over plow again. Somebody who's over plowing their their field will have worse soil architecture. Who? Somebody who's not plowing, but is just using Roundup. So that was devastating. It meant we needed to change not just 50 years of toxin spraying, we needed to change 1100 years of farm practice. Because we started using the plow in 900 A.D. and if you read a Western Civ textbook, it literally says in the first paragraph, western civilization began with the invention of the plow Holy crap. Western civilization started the moment we increased our capacity to kill Mother Earth. And I think we have done it steadily over the next 1100 years with every other invention we've come up with to more further distance ourselves and more severely destroy the ecosystem we live within. So farmers footprint was born. We realized we didn't need just an educational film, we needed a non profit to get large enough to actually change the economics and the infrastructure around farmers so they could make that transition. Because you can't tell a farmer in the middle of Minnesota you need to grow organic. Well, they have no place to sell that. There's no silo within a thousand miles of them that's going to be able to both take in their regenerative organic thing and get that out to the marketplace at the higher value point. So you're asking them to do a very labor intensive effort to change behavior with no reward on the other side. So once we saw that, we're like oh my gosh, we need to start to build public awareness, build big financial investment fund like strategies, government awareness, government programs, all of the strategies need to be taken to hand to literally change the $1.7 trillion US agriculture, the $3 trillion global economy around food needs to be changed almost overnight. If we don't change in the next eight years, that collapse of 97% of our soils that were breathing previously are going to choke our oceans. And so when you lose 2,400 gigatons of breath work of the topsoil, you get CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, methane, other greenhouse gases, importantly PM2.5 too. And so every pandemic we ever see that can target cypher on the backside of corona or any other virus is going to get worse every time because the concentration of carbon particulate in the air is going to keep going up if we don't change our soil behavior. But it's more scary than that for me, which I'm trying not fear is the wrong thing. More alarming to me, more of a call to action to me is the realization that PM2.5 is the least of our issues. When you realize that the oceans as they continue to take in more and more carbon dioxide and methane and everything else every year, because there's a need for it and they will still continue to give that grace and suck it in, they start to acidify. Of the five great extinctions that have happened in the past in a fossil record, they wipe out somewhere between 85% and 97% of life on Earth. 85% rate extinction events happen around death of the topsoil and that's usually due to massive volcanic activity or asteroids hitting the planet. The last one, 55 million years ago, looks to have been an asteroid that, that covered the planet in dust, choked out the topsoil. We lost 87%. But the time sequence for the death of soil was short enough that we didn't acidify the oceans and lose ocean life. The ones that have wiped out 97% were sustained death at the topsoil such that the oceans fully acidified. And then we lost 97% of life on Earth. There's a hidden blessing there that I think is really fascinating. Every time you have an extinction event on planet Earth, life comes back more abundantly and more diversity next time and faster. We are in the sixth extinction right now. We're 50% done. We've wiped out 50% of biology on the planet and we're accelerating. We're now seeing the loss of a species every 20 minutes. We've 10,000 fold increased our extinction rate just in the last decade and a half. And so with this massive explosion of extinction, 50% done. We have a choice. We continue on our path. We destroy our soils, we choke out the planet. The oceans acidify, we lose 97% of life on Earth. In the next few hundred million years, we will see life on this planet that has never existed before, more beautiful, more vibrant, more multidimensional than we can even imagine. But there's a huge part of me, friends, that just want to just be part of that. I want to see what that looks like. And it could be just 10 years away or 100 years away instead of 100 million years away. If we stop our behavior, let Mother Earth breathe again, and let's co create in the void that we've created in the collapse of biology that we've created in this extinction event, we could see life come back so abundantly that we have literally never known human capacity for longevity, health, consciousness, spiritual blessing. We haven't even touched our potential and we could participate that we could literally see that even in our, you know, lifetimes, we could see that happen.

It's more than a silver, it's way more than a silver lining. It's actually a rebirth of something that we couldn't even comprehend that could be real. And, and I think a lot of people, when they look at this Dr. Bush like they really are in fear because what you're saying not only is true, but the research, the data backs it up, up. So I think a lot of people, when they think of COVID or they think of the world. There's just so much agony and so much pain and really so much constriction. You know, duality is always present, obviously. But what is your take on this? Like, where do we actually go from here so that we can have Mother Earth breathe? And by the way, you said breath work. I love that we focus so much on breathing for Wellness Force. We have the Breathe program and we really get people down into their belly. Because when you're breathing from your belly, which that's where all of your emotions and serotonin and everything is anyways, you start to have a better connection with your body, which then gives you a better connection to Mother Earth, which then gives you a better connection to your brothers and sisters. But how do you see this from a treatment perspective? I guess you would say healing ourselves, healing our soil.

Yeah, yeah. In so many ways. It's exactly what you said earlier, which is we just need to stop meddling. If we stop screwing with soil, it will grow abundance for us. If we want real abundant food production system, then we should stop chemicalizing the process to give you a sense of just how far we've gone. And before we give the solution, I want people to understand that there's a misperception that the United States is feeding the world. The United States keeps saying we need all this chemical agriculture so we can have 30,000 acre farms that we can feed the world because there's people starving. It turns out that not only the United States, but all of the western world that has adopted mega Farming only feeds 30% of humanity. 70% of the 7 billion souls on Earth are fed by a peasant farmer who has less than 2 acres. 70% of 7 billion people are being fed by a peasant farmer who has less than 2 acres and is practicing largely with farm implements that have existed for a couple thousand years at least. And so we do not need chemical farming to feed the world. We need to stop abusing economic systems, creating artificial economic systems that are putting all of those little peasant farmers out of business. We need to support them, we need to celebrate them. They have the answer, they're already doing the answer. But they're competing against artificial economies of food supply that we have created through artificial subsidies at the government level, tax things, all kinds of bs. And so we are putting them out of the business in the United states. We lose 6,000 to 8,000 family farms a year just in the U.S. and then you look at Asia and you look at South Asia and you look at the South American situation with nafta. We are putting farmers out of business at an extreme rate. Early estimates after we signed NAFTA with Clinton. And what was that? That was around 1997 that NAFTA got signed, maybe it was 96 in those following four seasons. Article got published at one point that 50,000 farmers had committed suicide in South America due to bankruptcy and loss of farm and loss of dignity because some.

Of them are actually drinking Roundup.

I read they did. Yeah, yeah, they committed suicide through consuming their own herbicides and pesticides. So, yeah, a dark chapter of abuse through opening up an artificial economy of chemical farming onto the world stage. And so not only have we killed soils, we've killed livelihoods. We've killed, you know, farmers, we've killed families, we've killed children through this maleficent act. So where do we go? How do we heal it? It's so simple. We need to become peasant farmers again in our mentality, which is we need to produce first enough food for ourselves. Kansas, our most agricultural state, grows 90% of its land under agricultural use. 90% of Kansas is agricultural. Kansas has to import 90% of its food. One in four children in Kansas right now is starving, is lacking calories, going to sleep hungry. If Kansas can't feed itself, then what belief system do we have that is going to go feed the rest of the world? Kansas can't feed itself because the 90% of that acreage that's being used for agricultural land is using is growing GMO corn, soybean and alfalfa. That's never going to end up on a plate. Instead it's going to end up in chemical processing plants to make petroleum like products out of the oils and everything else in that. And so we feed the apparel industry so that we can have yet one more pair of stretchy yoga pants because God knows you can never have too many of those. And we start making all artificial BS things out of the crops that are growing where we should be growing food. And so from agricultural or from apparel all the way to our fuel industry. 10% of every gallon of fuel you pump in the America's grown on corn that's genetically modified and killing the soils beneath it. We're killing our vibrant soils for food production are being killed so that we can fill our gas tanks with a little less petroleum. It's just an absurd model. And so the solutions are at hand. We have farmland and we have brilliant farmers who are ready to grow food. We need to create economy around those farmers so they can grow food again. This is another wonderful thing that's happened with COVID is our farmers who over the last five years have started to make the move towards supplying real food to real people again. And they've been meting out these little brands and trying to, you know, create their little online stores. And they're slowly growing and their CSAs are starting to get a foothold. In just the month of March this year, those groups, those farmers that had direct to market potential, they grew by 300 to 1200% growth in four weeks. They jumped forward each 10 years in their business plans in four weeks because the supply chains got disrupted and mankind suddenly realized we have a serious vulnerability in the United States. We don't even grow our own food. We have supply lines that go all the way around the world to try to suck food back to us. What the heck are we thinking? And so we see a massive increase in direct to farmer demand. If you haven't participated in that, please go online, find a farmer near you that's got CSA or something, some product you can buy from them directly. It's going to improve their bottom line and they're going to immediately take that money. Farmers are the most frugal of people. They are never going to just go out and spend that willy nilly. They're not going to go get another pair of yoga pants. Those farmers are going to go reinvest in more land and grow more food. They love growing food. That's what I love about farmers is they literally can't get enough of it. They love watching Mother Earth produce and then getting that into the hands of consumers. But for a long time, two generations, they haven't even gotten to see the happy, healthy consumer on the other side of that. And so it is a very exciting time for these farmers who are doing the right thing to get met where they need to. All of us need to make sure we are participating in a new economy. When this pandemic fear finally resolves itself and we're told to go back to normal. Please do not go back to normal. Please don't keep buying all your food from Chile and Peru. Peru and 4,000 mile supply chains. Buy your food locally this summer. Grow your food in your backyard. I was so excited at the beginning of this pandemic. At the same time, everybody's jumping on their CSAs. Everybody ran out and bought every last packet of seeds in every hardware store in America. So exciting. That's beautiful. And we have people growing farms or gardens that have never grown a single thing. And they've got like 42 plants in their backyard and half of them are going to die. And that's normal too. Don't feel like a bad farmer if you're out there doing that first time. It's not all working. That's fantastic. You're learning. We need to learn for the next pandemic not to happen. We need to learn so that the next death of the planet doesn't have to happen. Let's do life and life abundantly together. It's so exciting.

The solutions are simple, but I think for so many people, logically they might think that they're not easy. So simple simplistically. Get a garden box. You talk about how to do this in your film and with farmer's footprint, but also to go back to the breathing and also to contrast the solution that you're speaking about. If we ourselves just use this as a time to slow down and do our breath work, then we are going to make better choices about the soil and about how Mother Earth breathes. But one thing that really hinders people from doing this is their level of consciousness and their level of awareness and really their level of health. Because you and I both know, and I'd love for you to expand this a little bit, the gut brain axis and the way that it affects neurological disorders and our moods and the way that the microbiome actually can literally dictate our decisions, our behaviors, our arguments or our love, that is part of the solution as well. So this product that you have, where it's actually made from natural pieces of the soil, the ion biome, tell us about that and how that plays into the solution because it's powerful and it's simple.

It's so eloquent. Again, nature. Every time we dive into a microscope to explore nature rather than disease, it's just spectacular. So this happened in 2012 in my clinics. We were seeing a lot of our patients that were going on plant based diet getting worse, inflammation, not less, on things like kale, Brussels sprouts, some of the most powerful healers and alkaloid medicines that I could bring to my patients were making them worse. Not bad. And so that, you know, that was only a third of our patients, third of our patients. Given that medicinal food like diabetes goes away, miraculous healings happening, all that, that was what the textbooks told me was going to happen. Then a third of our patients, not much change at all. They say, maybe I'm a little bit better, maybe they'll lose a few pounds, but nothing. Then a third getting worse. And so there was something Just not working across the board. That should have worked. And 40 year old nutrition science has worked in previous decades. So we were looking for the answer to that. William My colleague brought in a 90 page white paper on soil science. Flipping through that, there's this huge molecule in the middle of it that looks just like the chemotherapy I used to make in regard to its three dimensional structure on the right side. The right side of that molecule looked to have the potential to be a redox signaling device. And so redox signaling is the way in which biology does wireless communication. So just like your cell phone, as you pick it up, it has a tiny little transmitter that can send out a tiny little signal and it needs to be picked up by a cell phone tower that can repeat that over another seven mile radius to another cell phone. And over matters of split milliseconds that, that can be transmitted around the globe. And so I can call back to my grandma or wherever I need to and connect anywhere in the world. Cell is very distant. The amount of space in the body is vast. Once you get down to the cellular level, like, like, you know, the left hand compared to the right hand is a different galaxy. It's so far away from, at the, at that molecular level that is just ludicrous. And yet they can communicate that far away. The liver can talk directly to the brain. You know, all of these things. This is called redox. And redox stands for the words reduction on oxidation, which is just a description of the passage of electrons. And so redox chemistry and redox science is just the understanding of the flow of electron information over distances. And so the wireless communication network that I was studying in cancer was made by mitochondria, which are little bacteria guys that live inside our cells. For some reason, it never dawned on me that the bacteria and fungi within our gut and air systems and everything else would produce a wireless communication network. But I didn't think of it at the time. And so with studying redox chemistry and mitochondria and how to turn on apoptosis or program cell suicide in cancer cells by giving it enough information. If a mitochondria has enough information, it'll kill the cell quickly. If a mitochondria can't mount the information stream, then cell suicide doesn't happen and a tumor will develop. And so a damaged cell that's trying to kill itself will fail if it doesn't have enough redox chemistry. And so I was working with vitamin A to kind of give these massive surges of redox signaling out of the mitochondria and kill tumors. Well, actually it's better said that it doesn't kill the tumor at all. The tumor just dissolves itself. It's a very gentle non inflammatory cell process where it just dissipates and gives energy back to the space. Stem cell comes in, replaces it with healthy tissue. That's what breaks down as we go towards cancer. And so in 2013, as we're starting to untangle this molecule, I thought I stumbled upon something that could treat cancer. And as soon as we put it into petri dishes, all kinds of weird things were happening. Cells were doing things in petri dishes that we didn't even think were possible. You've never seen anything heal in a petri dish? Petri dish stuff only dies and you can change the rate of its death. That's how we do science. Did you change the rate of death? That's how we do it at the petri dish level. That's how we do it in a cancer study with patients. All right, everybody's dying. Did you change the rate of death?

What was this?

Nobody's making that petri dish. They start building things like we've never seen three dimensional structures being built in petri dishes before. Best case scenario, get a two dimensional layer of cells. Three dimensional structures in a petri dish was ludicrous. Like that's never happened before. And so suddenly it was the realization of, of course the bacteria and fungi would need a redox signaling system. And of course it would have to look different than what the mitochondria create. The mitochondria create oxygen carrying redox signals. So they do ozone, which is O3, they do O2, H, which is like the opposite of the water molecule. They do H2, O2, which is hydrogen peroxide. There's like 15 of these little oxygen based molecules that are produced by the mitochondria to create redox signaling and wireless communication inside the cell. Those molecules though, only last for a millionth of a second in the very protected and special space of the inside of a cell. So they're very e ethereal if you're outside of the cell. I never even dawned on me that you could have redox outside of the cell because you can't traffic electrons any distance with, with an oxygen carrying capacity because the oxygen carrier will be gone in a millionth of a second. So you can't cover distances. So inside the cell, which is, you know, less than a couple microns in distance, that's no problem for mitochondrial oxygen based redox. This huge carbon molecule that we found in soil that then might have redox potential gave me this massive hope suddenly of like, oh my gosh, what if we could do communication network outside the cells? And of course that's what nature's been doing since her beginning. So we didn't discover and we just.

Talked to one another as well. If you look at the mycelium in the German forest, it's how all plants speak to one another. Correct. Is this the same redox mechanism?

Same, same one.

Wow. So the fascinating thing for me is when we look at our microbiomes, if I were with you in person and if, and if we were six feet close to each other, would my microbiome be talking to your microbiome?

Oh yeah, absolutely. We do this through a couple different mechanisms. Beautiful. One of the main mechanisms that just got discovered in the last few years. John Gilday in our lab is a brilliant PhD out of Johns Hopkins geneticist and he's one of the five experts in the world at isolating exosomes, which are these little pockets of genetic information that we put out in the atmosphere all the time. He was the, he published the very first paper showing that human exosomes of genetic information from our genome could, could change genetic behavior just like a virus of other cells. And so very brilliant guy, amazing scientist. His capacity under, in a laboratory is really unsurpassed in the, in the crazy new techniques. He develops everything else, not to mention his sheer intellect. But John was, is one of those experts in understanding micro rna, which is a whole new field of study. In the last few years we thought that, you know, anywhere from 97.5 to 94%, depending on which paper you read of our DNA is junk DNA. It doesn't code for a gene or any other transcription factors. And so we just call it junk DNA. Well, it turns out that of course, nature doesn't do 94% of junk anywhere. And that DNA makes a very eloquent language system of microrna. The microrna then are exuded from our cells instead of DNA and RNA that we do genetically to keep a human cell doing its thing. That's all self contained typically, but the microrna are constantly leaving the cell to go into the bloodstream. From the bloodstream into our breath, into our stool, into our urine. And so it turns out that 15 to 30% of Microrna in your bloodstream right now is from bacteria in your environment, another 15% is from fungi in your environment, and another 5 or 10% is from the food you just ate. Genetic information in the corn or the pig that you just consumed is actually updating your genome, their microrna. And so we are exuding clouds of microrna. We're exuding clouds of exosomes all the time. We're also communicating it eloquently through redox chemistry in subtle ways as well, I believe, but over distance, it's more genomic over short distances. You get into this, especially once you're down at the cellular level, you get into this extracellular network of communication through the redox, made by bacteria and fun. Once you're down inside the cell, it's made by the mitochondria bacteria inside your cells. So you got this huge, beautiful matrix of generative information and transformation of information, transition of information, transport of information happening across cell systems. And none of it's made by the human cell. It's made by the soils of mother Earth. It's made by her bacteria and fungi. The soils of your gut, the soils that are in your skin. We now know that every organ system is full of microbiomes. Your brain has microbiome in it. This is freaking out scientists all over the place. Like we have. We're supposed to have Candida glabrata in our brain. Like, who would have thought that we have microbiome all through our body and it's working to nursemaid and communicate and bring resources, produce resources in Alzheimer's brain. When you section an autopsy that brain and stain it for Candida cobrata, candida has sprouted this beautiful network of pseudo hyphae and hyphae around the damaged neuron to bring nutrients apparently into that neural capacity. So, you know, a damaged brain is being fed by a yeast in a kind of mycelial form. Mind blowing.

I love science so much. And I'm sorry to interrupt you because so many people are watching this for probably the third time, because the way that your brain works, I just love the way that your synapse is fireman, just to create clarity for people that are maybe just tuning in or they're listening for the second time. This is a network, this redox network that actually signals one another as human beings. Is this also what we learn from the entanglement of the astrals? You know, being entangled where somebody is thinking about you and then all of a sudden you feel like texting them. The way that we feel each other across the world, the way that you and I are even connecting right now, we don't have to be next to each other other to feel one another. Is that a mirror of the same nature?

Redox system that, that's actually a deeper one. So what we're talking about right now is biology. So we've got a biologic system of communication and redox. And I would include in there viruses, very important genomic communication network. And so whether you call it an exosome or a virus doesn't matter. Same thing. So whether it's microrna or macro RNA and DNA, whether it's all that redox chemistry, you also have a hormonal network. And so we put out pheromones all the time that can go many dozens of yards out from our body to communicate at the hormonal level. So we have all these mechanisms. But what you just touched on goes deeper than biology. So all of the above are biologic methodologies for cellular communication and biologic communication across life forms. And of course, the microbiome is producing all of that right into us as well. The brain is literally listening right to the microbiome, which freaks out still of how cool that is. But the neurons that come out into your gut literally can stick out beyond the boundary of your gut lining to listen and talk directly to the microbiome, which, sweet, cool concept. So microbiome, redox, chemistry, all that's biologic. But it turns out we're not cellular beings. We're actually made of atoms, not cells. Every molecule made up of tons of atoms. Every cell, I think, is thought to have over a billion atoms or something rid listen like that. And so, and then you have 70 billion cells. And as you multiply a billion by 70 billion and you start to realize you're, you're in these, you know, massive.

I don't even think numbers of zero is that much. That much numbers, that's too many numbers for us to even imagine.

The only number that's, that's that large is our national debt. We're at $70 trillion now or something like that. So, yeah, these are just astronomical numbers that no human being can wrap their mind around. But a billion times a billion gets you up there into some massive numbers of complexity. And at the atomic level, you're only 0.001% solid, which is really bizarre and trippy. I don't care if it's you or your computer or the oak table in front of you. That's all a vacuum space. It's all 0.001% solid. It's 99.99% vacuum. But the vacuum, of course, is not empty. And so the vacuum is full of electromagnetic fields. We measure the electromagnetic field in the vacuum by its Wavelength, which is called Planck's constant. And it turns out that the wavelength of electromagnetic field in the vacuum has a weight to it. It actually has a mass. And so the mass of the electromagnetic field vibration in a cubic centimeter, this is the most mind boggling math thing. So I don't expect anybody to really hear this and believe this because it's too hard to really wrap your head around. But if you take 1 cubic centimeter of vacuum space and measure the density of that cubic centimeter in regard just to the electromagnetic field vibration, you end up with a one with like 94 zeros after it. If you measure, if you were able to take all of the solid physical matter of the entire universe and compress it into that same cubic centimeter, I'm talking about every galaxy, every star, everything into a cubic centimeter, you are 13 zeros shorter in weight in mass than just that 1 cubic centimeter of vacuum space. The reason why stuff feels solid is because there's so much energy packed into a single centimeter vacuum space that it can give the impression of solidity by its gravitational force. The space organizes a tiny bit of matter. So the fact that you're 0.001% is plenty. Because the vacuum space that organizes that tiny piece of matter is so dense that it can be as strong as steel, no problem. It can give you the impression that steel is strong, when in fact it's not the steel that's strong, it's the vacuum space that holds the steel and it's shaped, that's strong. And so that is just trippy, bizarre. But what I just told you is that all things, all space and time, all vacuum, is full of a dense structure of electromagnetic field which is vibrating and fluxing all the time. The reason, Josh, that I can reach out and touch you right now is because there's nothing but density between me and you. And when those piercing blue eyes you have, I can feel because there really is no space between us, there's only this continuous vibration of electromagnetic field that will connect the two of us in a deep way. And I can give you right now, I can just put a hand on your brother and say, I love you, I can see you. I'm so grateful for a conversation with you. And your body can absorb that information despite the 3,000 miles between us. It's a continuum of energy through space and time. And this is why we manifest stuff around us, is when as soon as you intention that you're going to call somebody, the likelihood of them calling you just went up. Because you just impacted their psyche with a message of yourself just by thinking of them.

Wow. And so I actually felt I had a somatic experience here in my throat and heart chakra, and I could feel a resonance when you put your hand out. And, gosh, there's so many people that understand this on a subtle level, right? Maybe even a subconscious level that what you're speaking about is true. But when we look at science and even the narrative around Covid and just the narrative in general, where we've been so neck up for so long, what you're speaking about is connecting the head and the heart together. And that, my friend, is why I'm so honored to have this conversation and to spend this time with you, because that is. Is actually what's going to save the world. We're not going to save the world neck up. We're going to save the world neck down, connecting those two hemispheres. So, I mean, you literally unpacked so much there for us. People are going to listen to this three times. We've already had people commenting in the chat. I'm going to listen to this again. I'm so glad it's recorded. You know what I get from you, too? I get from you this. This presence of the childlike curiosity and wonder and joy about the fact that we're even here on planet Earth, experiencing, breathing ourselves and being here with the mother. And what is it about your heart or your soul? If you could. Could maybe just reflect on this for a moment. What is it about you that makes you so curious and stay so curious about life itself? You know, this. This wonderful thing that we get to be here for, regardless of how long it is.

It'S just addictive. It's just so fun. Like, as soon as you touch a new. A new energy source, you want more of that. At least I do. I don't know. I. I'm routinely disappointed with how little I've. How far I have to come up in my head. I can so easily get overwhelmed in a day or a week. So I don't have the energy to talk to my wife in the evening after a long day of podcasting, work and teaching and blah, blah, blah. And I'm disappointed with that. Like, what the hell? Where is my priority list? If I can't understand the eloquence of being able to come alongside Jen and just give her my love and just be witness to her and her journey, I'm disappointed with myself all the time. And so in that disappointment, though, is an opportunity of, like, I feel Like, I'm a pretty good guy. I feel like, you know, I'm pretty, you know, empathetic, and I'm pretty compassionate.

Give us some hearts. Zach is a good guy.

I'm scratching the surface. I'm scratching the surface, man. I could, like, what am I going to be when I actually figure out the real essence of beauty? Like, what's going to happen when I see. When I. Every time I turn around, I want to just kneel down in awe and reverence to the mother of a tree that's sitting in the backyard. And this Mother Nature is just gifting me with shade and the rustle of her leaves and the exchange of light between sun and earth and all of the gifts of that tree. I walk by trees every day and forget to say thank you all the time. Missing the gratitude. And so my curiosity is driven in part as a desire to feel what it feels like to be completely alive, because I have been numbed out, man. I'm freaking dull. Little weed blowing in the wind because of all the programming and all of the distraction and the freaking Instagram and all this stuff and blah, blah, blah. But at moments, I get it. I get to sink into it. And I was out kayaking the other day, and. And I hear this huge breath behind me, and I'm out in the middle of the ocean, and I turn around, there's a sea turtle that just came up and blew out all of its air right behind my kayak and stop. And suddenly there's a huge puff of air. I'm surrounded by six turtles over the next 20 minutes, over this coral reef that I'm floating, and it's totally still day. So it's one of those moments where you feel like you're in an airplane looking down at the Earth, but you're on the water looking down into this world of the coral and fish everywhere and these massive sea turtles just, like, you know, grazing down there. And in that moment, I start to get a sense of, this is alive. I'm alive right now. Thank God. I'm alive right now. And I hope next time I turn on my computer, I can carry a piece of that Mother Nature into that experience so that I remember that the electrons coming off that screen can't even compete with the solar radiation coming out of me. And the joy that I could project out into the world and the love I could see and the. All of this, I just have this overwhelming hunger for more of that. And so that's what keeps me curious. Wow.

The intelligence that you tune into. You Know, it's funny, on the Ion Biome site you say that we believe in the intelligence of nature. And really what you want to do is build this healthy relationship with these products and the people that consume them. But you know, really what I see this as is I see this as a Trojan horse. You know, we can't meet levels of consciousness with this kind of speak that's very high vibrational. Whether you want to call it woke or awake doesn't really matter. But what you're doing is you're giving something on the 3D world that's tactical and practical for people to actually heal their gut and help mother Earth breathe so they can breathe better themselves. We've already had like four people say, I ordered Ion Biome. Just watching the show you gave us 15 off, which we're super grateful for. So thank you for that discount. It's wellnessforce.com biome as we wind down this incredible conversation, I'm inspired to ask you this. I'm inspired to ask you about this question of intelligence. You know, for almost 400 shows we've been exploring physical and emotional intelligence so we can live our life well. How would you actually define intelligence? Like, what does that mean to you?

Yeah, intelligence. That's a great question. I don't think anybody's ever asked me that. People are always tempted to ask, ask like, what's consciousness and all that. But intelligence is a slightly different thing. Intelligence is, I think, pattern recognition and sensory processing of consciousness. And consciousness is a huge flow of energy through the universe and we can tap into that. But from that, just being in flow isn't what we're called to do as human beings. I think that's what you were just a moment before you came into the body. I think you were in total flow as a soul. I think you were an ancient being that flowed in that energy field of consciousness, consciousness. But in the body we are called to do something very physical, very, very minuscule in time. You know, a lifespan of 90 years in the course of a 4 1/2 billion year planet, not to mention the age of the universe, we are in a split second millisecond of time over a 90 year lifespan. And intelligence comes in there. So I think intelligence is in the same way that consciousness and the soul are in line with the singularity. Intelligence is to the human body what consciousness might be. It is the physical manifestation of the electromagnetic field of consciousness. And so intelligence starts to take on structure that is as ethereal as our bodies. Intelligence is only there for a moment because we're going to find out we only were seeing through the glass darkly a moment ago and now we see a little bit better and then we'll see a little bit better later. And so I want to encourage physicians and scientists who are maybe in the audience or out there. You send this to somebody who's a doctor on the front lines and they're like, what? Cyanide poisoning? Nobody told me that. I can fix that. You know, don't worry if patients have died in your care. Don't worry if our consciousness and knowledge and intelligence didn't prepare us to save every life out there. It wasn't the calling of us as physicians to fix everything or to save every life. Our calling as physicians was to be humble servants to those that are in need. And we should do that with a full humility in what we don't know. And so when we find out a day later that we didn't know the right answer, that's a dub. We should have that premise going in every day that we don't see the whole picture. So don't feel badly about you will, you will feel sorrow for what you didn't know. But don't let that slow you down. To now apply the new knowledge and gain new intelligence and go again. The intelligence of nature is very physical. The intelligence of the spiritual realm and consciousness that's very, very ethereal versus very concrete here in the, in the intelligence sector. So the intelligence of nature that we are now, you know, really just so amazed by. As soon as we found out that's our new brand, we were like, oh my gosh, how did we not see that seven years ago? Like that's the most obvious thing in the world. Like, you know, it is of course the intelligence of nature. Now we need to build this. And the Trojan horse effect is I know I can hand you that product and change your life because you're about to put up boundaries. So the first thing that happens when you put the wireless communication network, which is what the active ingredients are pulled from soils, ancient 60 million year old soil, pull out the communication network between the bacteria and fungi, take that. And the first thing that happens is that the gut lining starts to lace itself back up. Roundup and other toxins, non steroidal anti inflammatories like ibuprofen, Motrin, alcohol, all these things break tight junctions. They create a leaky sieve of your gut and your vascular blood, brain barrier, kidney tubules and the rest. So we've turned into leaky sieves, your self identity is literally defined by those boundaries at the biologic level. I think that glyphosate roundup had this subtle way of destroying self identity, undermining our self identity at the cellular level that led to the highest rates of depression, anxiety and loss of function that we've ever seen in neurologic history. The crazy thing that happens when you put back in the intelligence of nature is the human self suddenly wakes up and realizes, oh my gosh, I don't have nearly enough tight junction structure. I'm going to start pumping proteins out. We see elevations of everything from amino acid production, like lysine from the microbiome, all the way to production of complex three dimensional structures of type junctions, gap junctions. Gap junctions are the fiber optic system that runs light energy between cells. All this stuff starts building out of seemingly nothing. The product doesn't have any of that in it. The product doesn't do anything. Product is the communication network between the cells. The cells know what to do. The intelligence that is in that bottle is unleashing something much deeper, which is your own intelligence. It took me three years of using this product before I started to put these pieces together to realize that a year into use of this product, my patients were starting coming to the clinic with extraordinary stories, crying, giant smile, big hug. Doc, you're not going to believe what I did last week. I finally left my husband who has been abusing me for 30 years. I finally put a boundary down and I'm not going to let that happen in my life anymore. Doc, you're not going to believe what I did. I just quit my job that's been sucking the energy out of me for two decades. And I started the company that I've always wanted to start. And I just thought these patients were just doing great stuff and all this. It took me a while to realize that a microscopic boundary is the beginning of self identity. The beginning of self identity is the beginning of healthy macro boundaries, spiritual, emotional and otherwise in your life. And that's going to allow you to do your purpose better. So when somebody hands you a bottle of Ion Biome, it's not some ancient message, it's literally unleashing you. And that gets me excited.

Wow. It's funny. As you were speaking, I was getting this like, fluttering feeling in my stomach, stomach. And I think about how many quote, gut experts we've had on the show, but the way that you've explained this today, I know everybody felt this. It's on the screen right now. Wellnessforce.com biome Zach, what can we Take from where we are in history right now. I had a moment when I was in a plant medicine journey last year and I saw how my life was one word on a page in millions and millions of pages in the book of existence. And it was a surreal experience and I'll never forget it. And I know in your work there's this blending of science and spirituality, but in the nexus of all these things, you know, the physical, the emotional, the spiritual, you having a spiritual experience in a physical body. How would you define wellness if somebody were to ask you your definition of wellness? What does wellness and well being mean to you? How would you define that?

In a word, it's surrender. You need to stop holding on to everything you believe, all the roles you play, all of the identities that you have taken on. You might be a mom or a husband or a dad or a brother or sister or an employee or a boss or a CEO or alignment. And these titles really weigh us down with false beliefs about how tiny we are. We get weighed down in this. Wellness is understanding that you are being given right this second, a millionth of a second at a time, the opportunity to take all of the energy in the universe to manifest a single physical experience. Wellness is being new every time you have that experience. If you felt bad with the last millionth of a second, well let go of the things that were making you feel bad that millionth of a second and be new right this millionth of a second. The wellness is the ability to surrender your anchors of belief and memory and empathy. Even empathy is a toxic thing. It can really poison us quickly. We see somebody else having a thing and we create our own personal emotions to attach to somebody else's journey. And then we poison our own bodies with empathy. That empathy is a dangerous, nasty little bug that I think it needs to be eradicated. We need to be reverent, not empathetic. Empathetic is narcissistic, really. It's like, oh, I'm so important that I'm going to come have an emotional experience around your journey. Don't be empathic. Be reverent to the next millionth of a second and you will be more well for that because you won't be tied down to your emotional journey or somebody else's emotional journey. You will be free. And so wellness is surrendering the last second so you could have a new second. Now wellness is then expecting the ability to co create with mother nature the next second. You are not a reactive being. You can keep yourself in a reactive state, but at the being level. You are a proactive soul that stepped into this moment in the tipping point of humankind to be alive right now with seven and a half billion other people to create a paradigm shift, create a massive cataclysm shift in human existence, to manifest something much more beautiful. And that might happen through our extinction and death. And we will be so much more beautiful on the other side of this physical veil with whatever millionths of the seconds we can accumulate between now and then. And I'm okay with that journey, and nor should we be, you know, overly, you know, self imported and dramatic about that. A species blinks out every 20 minutes to extinction. We're not crying about them. And so we need to take action. It very millionth of a second at a time. Right now we have 200,000 years of misguided low energy, low, you know, experience as a species. But over those 200,000 years, individuals has tapped into not just consciousness and the stars and the ethos, they have tapped into the physical now and they have created radical change. Gandhi didn't tap into some, you know, spiritual journey. He simply just faceted into this a physical journey of fasting and starvation until the world paid attention. That's a physical Mother. Holy smokes. That is not some, like, I need to teach people. He's willing to have a physical moment every second in protest to the behavior of a nation. And he did that to change a world. Mother Teresa never taught anybody anything. She just took a physical millionth of a second to have reverence for somebody in the gutter. She never did. Mother Teresa was so beautiful in that she was never like, oh, I saw this person who was suffering. And she never had any tone of empathy in her voice. She had reverence in her voice. Every human life is so important, she would tell us. Every human life is so vital that we respect it. She was a reverent soul, not an empathic emotional soul. She had a physical understanding of intellect and how it merges with spirituality. And so wellness is going to be something like a Mother Teresa. Wellness is going to be something like a Gandhi. Wellness is going to be something like Christ, energy and history there. It's going to be something fascinating that has to do with being so physical right now that we become plugged into an infinite capacity for memory, knowledge, consciousness, all the rest. But you're gonna have to surrender everything.

Without exaggeration. That truly was the best answer I've ever heard to the signature question of how do you define wellness? Because I think everyone felt your, your answer while they heard It. And I think that's when the truth really sticks, is when it's a universal thing we all can believe. So just thank you. Deep reverence for your work. I loved how you. You explained wellness and the differentiation between empathy and. And reverence. There's a call to arms on the planet. You know, we're all being called into action right now. I talked about my sacred anger earlier. There's so much information out there. If you could leave us with a parting sentence or two of guidance to navigate our hearts right now on the world as to what we can do from an inspired place, what would that be?

This is a gift that was given to me this last year by Patrick Giantempos, one of my. My best friends, and I think as a spiritual guide for the world, too. He's an amazing chiropractor, just brilliant human being. But he went on a spiritual journey last year and came back with a message for me that just. It rocked me to my very core. And I burst out crying even before he said it, because I could feel it coming. I knew it was going to be the most important thing I'd ever heard. And I have been railing for years and years about this thing called love. I've been telling people all over the world. I don't think we get. I don't get it. I know we keep saying that everything is made of love. And I keep hearing from John Lennon on down to your person on the street now that everything is about love, but I can't feel it. And I'm watching 60% of American households blown apart by divorce. I'm seeing child abuse at record levels. I'm seeing sexual abuse in my clinics that I can't even fathom the evil in it. Tell me that humans, if everything's made of love, how can we be so disconnected from it? How can we be? And so I've been just in just horror over this. If this is really the meaning of life and this is what everything's made out of, why are we missing it so badly? And why can't I manifest it in my own marriage better or my own relations with my children? Like, where? And so he came to me, he said, I had this extraordinary journey and I talked to a deep spiritual intelligence and I had this conversation. And it got recorded, thank God, while he was in this meditation, this. There was a recording being done and this conversation got recorded. And it had to do with. The message was that humanity is dying largely because we keep thinking that the fabric of life is beauty. I'm sorry. That the fabric of life is love. And as soon as he said that, that's when I started crying. I was like, that is why I'm failing. It's because I think it's made out of love. And. And I think that I'm missing that. And if this is some deep spiritual being saying that's our mistake, then I can't wait to hear the answer. And he delivered the answer the next second. And he said, the fabric of the universe we live in is beauty. Love is the experience of witnessing beauty. Love is not a thing. Love is not even an action. Love is the result of witnessing beauty. And I just cried like a freaking baby and it just took £10,000 off my shoulders. Because I suddenly real have to manifest love. In fact, I can't manifest love. All I can do is see beauty and react to that. And through that I will be a vessel of love and I will pour love through me. Not because I know how to love, but because I recognize beauty. And so for each of you who are trying to struggle with why don't you have self love? It's not because you don't love yourself. It's because you just haven't given yourself the breath and the time to find your own beauty.

Beauty.

And so find that beauty. Dig in and you're going to be able to love like you've never known before.

ZachBushMD.com just thank you for your presence. What a gift to be able to hold this space in conversation with you. ZachBushMD.com is the website. Thank you, Zach, for coming on the show.

Josh. Awesome. And I'd be remiss to Ms. Jen's message to you. Jen wanted to send her love to you and of course everybody else out there. If there's universal love in my life, this woman embodies that. And so she's just a gem. She's a real gift to the world as well. She's got some real beauty in who she is. You can see her also. Jenniferrellbush.com she's got just a lot of cool beauty in what she does. Everything from the photos that she represents in those spaces and everything else. She's got a simple genius to how humans need to communicate. And so as a coach, she's just revealed so much beauty in the world for the simplicity of it. Communion.

It's a cool moment for me because I remember, gosh, I think it was 10 years ago in Solana Beach. I took a class when she was a yoga instructor and here we are. Isn't life an amazing journey, man. So all my love to your, to your wife and my love to everyone here on the podcast. Watching us live today is just hundreds and of hundreds, hundreds of comments. Give Zach some love on social follow us wellnessforce.com and until Zach sees you again, until I see you again, our eyes are looking at your eyes and we're wishing you love and wellness. We'll talk to you soon.

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