#42 Let's Talk Fertility- with guest Lea Nicole Trujillo

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We're Erika Radis and Marie Lifschultz, a San Antonio area realtor and lender, but most importantly, we're working moms.

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So join us in trying to find a balance between career, family, and everything in between. Welcome to this week's episode of the Working Moms of San Antonio podcast. We're here with Leah today, our guest. She is a fertility and IVF coach. And so I just want to turn it over to her so she can talk about, you know, her industry and how she got into it.

Hi, Erika. Thank you so much for having me here today. I am thrilled to be here and to have met you this year, you and all the lovely ladies in Working Moms. So just want to give a shout out to them as well because I've had a blast meeting everyone in your inner circle.

I'm so glad. Yes. Yeah.

And just kind of getting to share what I do. And honestly, sometimes people are like, I've never heard of that. So yes. Yeah. So I'm like excited to be here to be able to, you know, share the message and inform the world a little bit more about kind of my little pocket of, of our world and how this might be impacting people that you love, that you may not even be aware of. So, sure. Yeah, I guess I started off, or I started in this field really based off of my own experience. I actually have always loved psychology and the idea of like helping other people and learning how we can, you know, better ourselves emotionally and be the best versions of ourselves in that aspect. And so with that in mind, I ended up, you know, focusing on that in college and then ended up looking at grad school and wanted to do— I ended up wanting to try school psychology because another big goal for mine, and if another big goal of mine in my life was to eventually have a family, and kind of in planning for that, I thought school psychology might be a great fit because, hey, you get off in the summers and you get to do like like, you know, in-depth psychology work. That sounds amazing, right?

Right.

So planned for that, but then, you know, life always throws us interesting curves. Um, yeah. And I actually, you know, was about 30, and at that point in my life, I, you know, had not met my husband. I was seeing— I was dating somebody, and I started to have like strange symptoms related to my period. I started like, they started becoming more irregular, you know, differences, just differences with it, like variation in, you know, intensity, things like that. And I went and had a combo with my gyno. She ran some tests and then she let me know some devastating news, which again, I was totally unprepared for. She shared with me that basically my egg reserve levels were extremely low and kind of in a comparison state, it was like similar to a woman in her 50s. And— oh wow. Yeah. And again, I was like completely unprepared for that. It was very shocking, especially since I was not at the point in my life where I was like settled down with like somebody that, you know, in a very secure, committed relationship.

Right.

So kind of took me on a, on a whirlwind at that moment and kind of like circled back, thought about what I could do next. You know, even, you know, at one point like looked into trying with my current, that current partner because thinking like this is your absolute last chance almost. Right. Like you gotta do what you gotta do. And you know, he, you know, was up for that at that moment in time. And when that didn't work out, in a weird way, it was kind of like a sigh of relief just because I knew, I also knew I wasn't like super gung-ho about the relationship either.

Yeah.

So that ended. I moved on with another fertility doctor. We looked at freezing eggs and really invested a lot of, again, time, energy, money as well as a single woman, you know, working in the school system, trying to like save up for that. Cuz IVF is expensive as hell. So, sure. Egg freezing, the medications, all of the aspects of it. So tried to do that and that did not pan out the way I wanted to at all either. I wasn't able to get any eggs at all. Now, yeah, I would—

is that common when people do that? I mean, is no eggs at all something that happens often?

It kind of depends again on your current egg reserve.

Yeah.

And again, sometimes there's different approaches to it. Some doctors like to do a high medication stimulation round when you have a really low egg reserve. Some doctors like to do a very low medicated round. So, you know, sometimes unfortunately when you go through IVF, they, you often think, okay, it's like a one and done thing.

Mm-hmm.

But sometimes that first kind of tr— cycle can almost be like a trial and error type thing.

Oh boy.

And yeah.

Yeah. And again, with that cost, that's wild.

It is.

Yeah.

So they try to give you something that they think is gonna work best for you. But again, all of our bodies respond differently and you know, Sometimes people who think they're going to get a really good result end up, you know, not so much, and vice versa. You know, it can really vary. And there's other things too that you can do to help maximize your chances. But at that point in my life and in that current situation, I didn't know that. Everything was just kind of brand new. It feels like a very much like rush, like, okay, oh my gosh, your egg numbers are so low, we have to move immediately. Like there's no time to really process and think and like really look at all of the options. Uh, at least that's how I felt. And I know a lot of people that I've worked with or talked to have also felt the same. But moving on, you know, that didn't pan out and it was really hard emotionally at that point too, because you kind of start to look at yourself and it really impacts like the way that you're seeing yourself as far as like, you know, your relation to you being a woman. And kind of culturally there's these, you know, pressures that, you know, people put on us or we even put on ourselves. Like, okay, like that's, you know, part of being a woman is, you know, being able to have children. And then that gets kind of, you know, taken away in a sense, or like there's a lot of doubt surrounding that ability. And it really kind of, you start to question your self-worth a lot. And also as a single woman, and even when you are paired up with someone, it can also cast doubt on your relationship as well, thinking like, is somebody really want me with, you know, these potential concerns going on, right? If they want a family, how is that going to impact my relationship with this person, right? So that's kind of where I was at, at that point in time. But I, again, as I mentioned, I ended up meeting my husband, talking to— with him about that. And it was actually— I'm also, just so you guys know, a big fan of like reality TV, like love shows. So like Love is Blind or like, you know, Bachelor and like 90 Day Fiancé, all those fun things. And it was actually really weird because on The Bachelor this past season, a woman actually had this conversation with the Bachelor about her infertility. And it was very surreal to watch it play out in, I guess, you know, on TV, the exact almost conversation I had with my husband.

Wow.

Like about like, hey, this is gonna be a huge challenge for me. Yeah. And really be vulnerable and put yourself out there.

Yeah.

And like kind of see how that takes. So yeah, super side note there.

Yeah.

Um, but yeah, I really saw myself in, in that, in that moment. And you know, again, we ended up getting married, kind of trying some things on our own. But again, at that point my period was really pretty absent. And it's interesting, we always, you know, use birth control and things like that and that can really mask if you're actually even naturally ovulating or having a period. You think that that's fine, but it's not your body doing the work. It's hormone, it's the birth control.

Yeah.

And so you can, you know, be a little lost as, as far as exactly where you're really at. So anyways, we started going to fertility clinics, looking at different doctors, trying to kind of, once we found one we felt comfortable working with, they tried to kind of manipulate some of my hormonal levels to see if I would be a good candidate for another round of IVF. Unfortunately, it didn't really go my way with that either. And really they were like, okay, we really think that your best bet here is donor eggs. And with that, that was another really like hard thing to grapple with. It's one thing to think like, okay, I'm going to really need a lot of support to work on my fertility and going through that. And then it's kind of another one when you then have to go to more alternate routes, right? Above and beyond just, you know, medically stimulating your body. So kind of grappled with that for a while, looked at kind of some of the donor options and really like took some time to make peace with trying that route. Like what was going to be most important for me as far as like, you know, my ability to, to have a high chance of, you know, eventually having this family that I'd been wanting for so long? And what are the main aspects of being a mother that are really important to me? And, you know, with, again, donor eggs, I felt that would be the right path for me as far as, like, again, the highlights that I can think of as far as going along with motherhood and, again, giving myself the best chance. So went that path. Um, and then, you know, after our first transfer with that, I finally was pregnant and I was so excited. I was just over the moon and, you know, it, it was amazing. And then unfortunately, a few blood tests later, it didn't pan out the way that we had hoped and I ended up having an, an early miscarriage.

Oh.

And at that point, that was the hardest part for me. Of my, you know, existence at that time. Yeah. I mean, again, sometimes when we hear of other women going through a miscarriage, we tend to maybe associate the time like, oh, well, she was pregnant for, you know, 12 weeks and you were only pregnant for like 6, so it must be easier for you.

Yeah. Right.

But it's really just tied to how emotionally invested that you had been in this process.

Yeah.

An aspect. And for me, I had given everything that I possibly could to get to this point, and then for it to be gone, it was really, really hard. And again, that was my rock bottom place of my life.

Yeah.

And just again, I felt like I was like transforming into this person that I didn't really recognize. I'm normally a pretty like optimistic, happy-go-lucky type, go-with-the-flow person, and I felt like I was becoming very rigid I was like starting to become resentful when I would see or, you know, hear about people who would just get pregnant so easily, or they didn't even really want another child. And it's like, oh well, he looked at me and I got pregnant, you know?

Yeah, I know. Yeah, you don't want to be hearing that kind of thing.

Yeah, exactly. So it kind of put me in a different place. I felt like it was really overtaking my life again. I was like questioning my relationship and I also then at that point learned that I had some additional barriers to maintaining a pregnancy, like medically, that my doctor, we found out about. And so I had to wait like 6 months before we could do anything further. And again, though, that was actually, and it, when you were on a fertility journey, like honestly, sometimes like 1 month more of waiting can feel like So long, right? It's like this weird time warp, but I, um, you know, really in retrospect needed this extra time to allow me to rebuild myself emotionally. And as I mentioned before, you know, I love psychology and I started like exploring, you know, different methods like positive psychology and kind of how I can pull pieces of that and start incorporating that into my life. Where can I really get some support, what support groups are out there, and really try all these new avenues that I hadn't been utilizing. And additionally, on top of that, you know, get some professional support as well. So I worked with, you know, another therapist, and then I also like tried to again use tools that I had been using with other You know, I also did, you know, psychological counseling for like high school students and things like that. So like I would do cognitive restructuring with them and I'd be like, okay, yeah, you just do this, you just do this, and here's the steps that we're gonna do and let me walk you through that. But again, when it's you going through it, it is so much more challenging to really keep on top of it. But really kind of pulling in all those skills and, and I eventually, you know, got to a place where I was super optimistic. I was really— felt like I could really enjoy my, my life again despite this kind of being in limbo. And we eventually got to the time and place where I was ready for my next transfer. We had that transfer and I remember even that day of the transfer, the doctor— and I love my doctor, but she was like, you know, in case this doesn't work, we can always like look at this for next steps. We can investigate, like, if I have— I had a— I have a fibroid as well. So like maybe that fibroid is in there and then maybe that might be messing things up if this one doesn't work and all of this stuff. And I was like, ah, I can't even hear like any of those side plans. Like I'm in such a good space right now that it's just— Yeah.

Let's just see. Yeah. Yeah.

Like don't kill my vibe.

Right.

Right.

So I was really in it and it, um, you know, that transfer ended up taking and I now have my She's almost 15 months now. So it's been— it's been really great. And I'm so lucky and so grateful for, you know, the opportunity that, you know, I had in using a different avenue to have the family that I had been longing for for so long.

Right.

But in, again, going through this path, I really realized that I'm really passionate about helping other women in this space. And really wanted to transition my career to supporting that solely. So yeah, so I ended up specializing in fertility mindset coaching. So I specifically help women who are struggling to conceive really try to reclaim that joy, to unpause their life, and to maximize their fertility outcomes. It's also interesting because aside from that emotional benefit, there's actually a lot of research to support, like meta-analyses, Harvard studies that have, you know, documented the impact of specific aspects of mindset work that I actually had been utilizing to help improve pregnancy outcomes and IVF outcomes. So taking those components, taking my, you know, real-world knowledge and building out a coaching program again for women who are in need of, of that at this time in their life. So yeah, I've been loving it and it's been great. I've gotten some really great reviews and results from, yeah, clients here.

No, that's wonderful. I mean, I can tell you that I believe in sort of trying to be positive, just like you said, you know, during this time you kind of had a dip in your positivity, of course, naturally. But I am a big proponent of putting out positivity and positivity coming back, you know, energy and all that fun woo-woo stuff, you know? I'm big on all of that.

Yeah.

And so I totally believe that there are health benefits to trying to be positive and working on that mindset and all of that because our bodies are kind of so complex. I almost think it would be almost maybe arrogant to believe that that's not the case. You know, our bodies, there's so many different things that we don't understand, you know, but we do know that stress and other things take a medical toll on us. So trying to alleviate all of that surely must help. You know, and to me hearing your story, that's a big thing that stands out when you were finally able to get in a good mindset, you know, things went in a more positive direction. And so I think that's amazing.

Yeah, definitely. And I think it's an interesting scenario though too, because again, most women start their IVF cycle normally pretty positive, but then something goes awry and then it almost creates this like reproductive trauma that you have around it. Like you're like, You're so on edge that it's going to go bad again and you start really again spiraling into this negative space and it can be so hard to bring yourself out of it. And again, like you really have to look at the grief process that you've experienced through the process and deal with that. And, and on top, I, I don't think you can just kind of COVID that up and just try to, you know, be positive as much as you want to be.

Yeah.

You have to really explore that and like let that go in a healthy way before we're able to move on to these next steps. And the grief process around struggling with fertility is different than traditional grief. You know, normally something happens, like maybe there's a death of a loved one, you know, you're able to— as, as, as hard as that is, right, there's traditional norms that are in place to deal with that in our society. There's a funeral, right? There's, you know, you know, rosary, whatever it is, right? And people are there for you to support you through that process, you know, loved ones. And additionally, it's, it's a singular event. But with infertility, you are, you know, maybe dealing with, you know, a failed transfer, you're dealing with maybe a miscarriage, you're dealing with, you know, years of struggling to conceive, and it just compounds. And again, the— you're expected to Okay, that, that whole transfer didn't work. Let's immediately next cycle. Doctors often are like, okay, when are you ready for your next cycle? Like there's no grieving period almost.

Yeah.

And it just gets compounded. And then additionally, like you don't have that outlet often of, you know, again, any ritual as far as how to move forward, how to grieve that loss in the way that it deserves. And having people there to really understand and support you is another facet that is missing often when you're struggling to conceive.

Yeah.

So it's a really complex thing and it is actually happening to a lot more people than we even realize.

Yeah.

Like the World Health Organization did new data this actually a year ago in April of 2023 and informed us that it's actually 1 in 6 people worldwide who are affected with infertility or will be at some stage of the, or are at some stage of their life. So that's a huge amount of people.

Yeah. Worldwide.

And, and actually, I know, you know, obviously we're in the Working Moms Group and such.

Sure.

But secondary infertility, meaning, you know, you've already had your first child and now you're now experiencing significant difficulty having your second, that's actually even more common than primary infertility.

So, oh, that's so interesting.

Yeah. So, and then that can be very shocking and it can be really— I think there's not enough credit almost given for how hard dealing with secondary infertility is. If like, yeah, again, people often only think about if you can, you should, you should just be happy for having your first in a way.

Yeah.

And, and again, women who are struggling to have their first, it's very hard for them to have sympathy for somebody who already has one and then is struggling for a second. And I can totally get that. And I've been there for sure. But again, if you're struggling to have a second and like people keep asking you, when are you gonna have it? Maybe you're trying, your kid is maybe asking you when you're gonna, they're gonna have a sibling.

Right.

You go to birthday parties and there's all these, you know, children around or, you know, maybe new babies.

Mm-hmm.

So there's a lot of extra and then they often feel guilty for, you know, maybe wanting even a second or a third. So. It's really prevalent everywhere.

I was going to ask you, you know, you mentioned maybe there not being a lot of support for women that are going through infertility and who have had miscarriages and things. Do you think, and, and I've spoken to women, um, who have expressed that they feel almost guilt or shame when they ex— when they experience a miscarriage or something like that, a loss. And do you think that that's kind of what I think it stems back to like the fact that there aren't a lot of resources because people don't, they, these women sometimes they don't talk about it. They, you know, they hide it or they, and so it's almost like taboo to talk about this kind of thing. And so I think when we don't talk about things, then there are even less resources to help these women.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. It can be very isolating. And again, a lot, just in general, not being or struggling to get pregnant. Like that when we have a miscarriage, we often kind of put self-blame on ourselves when, you know, really that's not the case. Like you didn't do anything to cause your miscarriage. I mean, aside from, you know, the smoking crack and like, right.

Yeah.

You know, falling down.

Very specific things. Yeah.

Like, I mean, you're not causing that, you know? And so it is sad that we tend to do that to ourselves when a time where if anything, we need to just give ourselves as much grace as possible and kind of just allow ourselves to really grieve and get the support that we need.

Yeah.

So, and miscarriage is also something that is related to infertility. Often women with infertility experience that, but you can also have miscarriage and, and not a miscarriage and not necessarily have infertility.

Sure. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Now I'm curious, Is there like a certain amount of time that people try to have a baby before it's considered like, hey, maybe you should talk to somebody about your fertility? Is, is there like a recommended amount of time? Yeah.

So generally the, the rule of thumb is that if you are over 35, if you've been trying for like 6 months or more and you're not successful, that is the timeframe in which you generally should seek out a specialist. In fertility, like medically. So that's called a reproductive endocrinologist. You can often start with your, um, gynecologist to maybe get a recommendation, you know, if you have a great relationship with them. And if you are younger than 35, they normally give you a year of trying to conceive before you probably need to get, you know, uh, an, an evaluation. And again, just because you get seen by a specialist doesn't necessarily mean you need to do IVF. Right? Like we just hear about that and associate the two, but it could be something, a small adjustment. Maybe there's a hormonal imbalance that can be medically treated very easily. Again, just, I think knowledge is power. So just kind of allowing yourself to get that support and get another eye on it, an expert eye on it is really helpful in helping you make the best decision for you and, you know, your, your family. Additionally though, if you do know that there are some sort of conditions that might, you maybe you already you know you have endometriosis or you have PCOS or, or anything like that, I would err on you don't need to wait 6 months, just go see a specialist so you can see what options you have to help, you know, treat that and maximize your fertility as much as possible. So, so yeah.

Okay. Yeah, that's good advice. You just never know, you know, how, how long is too long, right? Unless you, unless you seek out the information, you just don't know. Episode.

Yeah, exactly.

And then I'm also curious, how do people find you? Like, how do they come to you? How do people find out about a specialist like yourself?

Yeah, so I'm learning how to spread the word every day. Yeah. Um, but I actually have been lucky enough to partner with a couple of the fertility clinics here locally in San Antonio. So you can currently find my brochures actually at Aspire Fertility at all of their locations. And then I'm also working on a partnership right now with Positive Fertility. So you, my brochure is also available there as well. But I'm actually, you know, don't just support women in San Antonio. I can support women anywhere. My, I really like to do virtual services, so, you know, I can work with anyone really. But you can find me actually on Instagram at Tru Fertility, T-R-U, my last name's Trujillo, so T-R-U Fertility. And then I also have a website, of course, too. So that's actually leanicolecoaching.com and it's L-E-A coaching.com. But yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty much where you can find me and—

Yeah, no, that's great. I mean, I just was so curious cuz like you mentioned in the beginning, people maybe don't know that this type of service exists. You know, I certainly didn't. And so I just wonder, like, it's good that you're partnering up with these these clinics because then, you know, they can kind of send people your way and you can help even more ladies, you know, who are having a hard time.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And again, I didn't know about these services either, and I, I wish kind of I would've known about that. And I think sometimes also it takes people a little bit of time to even recognize that this is something they may really need as far as that emotional support. I think again, Sometimes, you know, as women, we, you know, are really strong. You know, we feel very strong. We feel very independent. And I love that about us. But sometimes that mentality, it's hard to know at what point you really do like, wow, this is really affecting me. And you need to kind of just slow down a second and look for some support. So just trying to be cognizant of that and know that there are resources available to you, I think is really empowering and huge.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, no, that's amazing. And also, so like when they come to you, I'm just so curious. So when they come to you, like you have what, like an initial consultation and kind of try to meet them where they're at and then how does that go?

Yeah, so I give free consults because again, every situation, every person is unique and kind of what their needs are. So I do free 20-minute consults. I have a calendar, you can just book that out, and I kind of just hear you out, see where you're at, and kind of again, like, see if there might be a custom plan I can put together for you and your specific needs at that time. Would you be a good fit for my signature coaching program? Which again, that's a very already kind of thought-out plan, but it's all— currently I'm only offering one-to-one sessions, so it's again like just me and the client and we really dive deep into, you know, a very tailored experience to get you and your needs. And I'm showing you it's different than therapy in that it's not necessarily like just like a, a talking session, like, oh, how are you feeling? And yeah, like I, I, it's very concrete as far as we do have obviously like that connection, but I am also, each session is very purposeful and I am showing specific strategies and tools. That are going to help you through this process. Again, based on the research we do, you know, self-cognitive restructuring, and it's basically like self-talk, how to, how to catch that, how to reframe that. It's a very targeted and specific mind-body tool, setting up like specific plans for supports, delegations, you know, boundary setting, and then also going through that grieving process as well. Um, and I also offer in-between support between sessions as well. So it's a very comprehensive to, you know, empower you, to give you the tools that you need to, you know, get through this and have that resilience that you need. Interesting enough, I also found in my research that the number one reason why women stop treatments prematurely is actually the emotional toll of the process.

I believe that. Yeah.

Yeah.

I can only imagine.

So yeah, it's, it's again really important to prioritize that and to just really know that, like, you and your work— you are worth it. Like, you, you are— your feelings are worth it, your experience is worth it. We really need to put a high value on that and know that that's okay to prioritize yourself at this time.

Yeah, definitely. Do you think sometimes women feel like, even though emotionally they can deal with it, they feel that perhaps it's putting an emotional toll on the family or the spouse or, you know, the other kids or whatever. And so then they think, oh, we maybe we should just stop because this is too much for others rather than themselves.

Well, I think that can be a component for sure. Again, I specialize in supporting women in this, in this aspect, but I definitely know that, yeah, it definitely impacts partners often in different ways. More traditionally, like, a lot of times we women tend to be a little more introspective and like looking like kind of in the middle or in the midst of dealing with this, and it's really impacting them. And then sometimes, like, the men, their way of dealing with it a lot of times can be more like distancing themselves from the issue or kind of making— not light of it, but again, kind of a lot of times my clients can feel like their husband or partner is not as affected and they kind of can put more strain on the relationship because of that. Because one person's like, this is making revolve, you know, their whole life almost, or it's feeling like it's consuming their whole life. And then maybe their partner, they're kind of like, ah, it's gonna be fine. Like whatever's gonna happen's gonna happen. But that can be their way of dealing with it too. Yeah. So, I'm kind of acknowledging that. And I also really encourage specific conversations with the partners. So like when we maybe work out a plan for how we're going to deal with a specific situation, I always encourage that we share this plan with their partner so they can, you know, have an agreement on that, see what their partner thinks about it. We want to build a support between partners because this can again be a huge strain on a relationship. And the last thing we want is for, again, like, that to be an additional stressor. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it does affect everybody, but you definitely want to make sure that the, the woman is feeling supported. So that— those are good tactics and good suggestions.

Yeah.

And I mean, and again, that's my specialty is supporting women, but there's Actually, like men, they also struggle with infertility. That's actually like half of the equation, of course. And sure, just as many men, it's, you know, they're having something going on medically that's preventing them and their partner from getting pregnant. So that's, that's definitely there as well too. I don't want to kind of put any misconception out there that it's always, you know, the woman's condition to deal with. That just happens to be my specialty.

Sure. Of course.

Yeah.

Well, and as someone that has gone through it personally and, you know, for maybe for our listeners that are listening into this episode, if you could give sort of one piece of advice to women that are going through this, what do you think you might say to them if they were listening now?

I think really it's just allowing yourself to have that time and space to, to grieve, right? Like allow yourself to feel those emotions even though they may not be so fun all the time, right? I think again, sometimes we can just get in this mode of do, do, do more and more and more. And like, with fertility, your life becomes really busy. There are so many appointments that you're going to, so many things you're trying to do often to maximize your fertility. Like, okay, I need a whole diet change, I need to add these supplements, I need to like do all of these things, I have 20 medications to take every day now, and I have to like miss work and stuff. But taking the time to really just check in with yourself and knowing where you're at and giving yourself again time and space to do what you— to really again allow yourself to, to feel what you need and, and where you're at. And also with that, once you know that, you then can maybe look at setting up some boundaries for yourself and knowing what's going to feel good for you in this time and what's not. And being okay with saying, you know, maybe no to certain things that you know are going to be really triggering for you right now and prioritizing your well-being above, you know, maybe necessarily like trying to be there for everyone else despite what you're going through and honoring that and recognizing that. So I think that's a good place to start. Also just reaching out for supports as well. There are like support groups. For you, which sometimes can feel really scary. But you know, once you go there, you realize you're really not alone in this. And then again, I'm here for you too. So yeah.

Yeah. That's really good advice. You know, I think as women in general, whether you're going through fertility issues or not, it's hard to think to put ourselves first. And so that's excellent advice just all around, but certainly in this situation. Well, do you wanna sh— do you have anything that you wanna share with our listeners in terms of classes or different things you've got going on?

Yeah, definitely. So again, like, I love working with my clients, but again, part of my, my, my business and part of, you know, my contribution almost, I guess, to, to our world is that I love to also share free resources and information with people. So I have a podcast now, it's called True Fertility, TRU Fertility. And that's doing great. I just wrapped up the first season and actually got rated number 29 in alternative health. So that was a really huge deal for me. So yeah, looking forward to having another season, but it's out there on Apple and Spotify and also a YouTube version as well right now. I also have a free class. That's my current free offer right now. It's a 10-minute class that gives you the specific tools, as I mentioned, of mindset tools that can really significantly improve your pregnancy rates, triple pregnancy rates, triple IVF success rate. So I really outlined those out for you if you're interested in learning what those are. And I give examples as well. So that's available. That's at my website, coaching.com/spill, because I'm spilling the beans on that. Oh, cute. Yeah. And with that, you'll also be signed up for my free newsletter, True Fertility Newsletter. So I basically give out strategies and support once a week directly to your email. So, you know, I know it's hard to look for all the information in one place and that's kind of the goal of that newsletter right now. So yeah.

Perfect. Yeah, no, well, what we'll do is when this airs, we'll put all of that information in the show notes cuz those seem like amazing free resources that that, you know, some ladies can really benefit from. So we'll do that. And then I just wanna thank you for being on. This has been so informative to me, and I know it's gonna be so helpful. Like you said, people don't talk about it, and so we often don't know, but I imagine that many of our listeners either have gone through something like this or are going through something like this. And so, you know, it just, I'm glad that you were on here to share this information and kind of spread awareness about this this industry that you're in that maybe some people don't know about.

Yeah, yeah. No, thank you again so much for the opportunity to be on, and thank you for introducing me to so many amazing women locally. So appreciate the opportunity, Erika.

Definitely. And then I'm going to also thank our listeners for tuning in to this week's episode of the Working Moms of San Antonio podcast, and we will catch you guys next week.

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