In this Season 4 episode of the FYM Show, hosts Worldwide Ty and Yo discuss the cultural origins and contemporary relevance of April Fool’s Day, questioning whether the tradition should be abolished or transformed. They trace its roots to medieval role‑reversal festivals such as the Feast of Fools, noting how the day historically allowed social hierarchies to be inverted. Ty proposes replacing the prank‑centric holiday with an "April Field Day" focused on physical activity and public health, arguing that a national field‑day could counteract poor food regulations and promote community wellness. The conversation then shifts to professional ethics in talent management: Ty shares his philosophy of protecting artists, avoiding “stupid games,” and maintaining strict personal boundaries, especially regarding relationships with clients and younger women. He emphasizes disciplined health practices, describing how he proactively uses the healthcare system despite stereotypes about Black men avoiding doctors, and advocates for mental‑health awareness. The hosts also critique media treatment of celebrity bankruptcies, using Pinky Cole’s recent filing as a case study of how public figures are personally attacked when business setbacks occur. Throughout, Ty reflects on his personal growth, noting that turning 42 represents freedom through spiritual obedience and service to others. The episode promotes the newly released Culture Playbook Volume 2, highlighting its chapter “Play Stupid Games, Get Super Prizes,” and announces plans for a live feedback session on the book.
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And we're back with another episode of the FYM Show with Ty and Yo. That's my man Ty, I'm Yo, and we are in our fourth season now. Fourth season, season 4. So I hope everyone that's been tuning in has been enjoying the shows and enjoying the episodes. Uh, Ty, tell them a little bit about what today's episode is about.
So we're going to talk about, you know, some of the things that— some of the feedback we've been getting from, uh, Culture Playbook Volume 2. Uh, shout out to everybody that pre-ordered. If you haven't got your book already, that thing is on the way. Uh, yes sir. Next thing is, you know, just April Fools, you know, is it, is it, is it something that, that we should be truly entertaining? Should we ban April Fools as a, as a citizenship, as a, as a society, as citizens of this society? Should we ban April Fools? Uh, and where did this stuff start from, you know? And so yeah, I'm curious, curious show today.
I, I don't know the origins of April Fools, but I do know it was here when I got here. Folks was already on pranks. Folks was already on that type of time. By the time I got here in '91, April Fools was already here and thriving. And I think like, I feel like in business it's interesting thinking about like pranks and like silliness because obviously we live in a world where people buy dreams, Ty. You can sell folk a dream. Same thing kind of selling a prank because a great prank is convincing. Right? Like, if I can convince you of something, that means I didn't got you. I got you. I got you.
100%. Well, you know, we have some of the most incredible technology as we are progressing into the future. So ChatGPT would tell us really fast in real time, you know, where this thing originated from. So, I mean, it is— I mean, it got so many different, like, layers to this that I'm not even going to get all the way into. But, um, but we will talk about like the, the bottom line. This is what the bottom line is when it came to, uh, ChatGPT. April Fools likely didn't come from one single event. It's a blended of calendar confusion, uh, ancient prank festivals, and then a cultural tradition of humor and society social reversal. Now there was this thing called a medieval Feast of Fools. It was in medieval Europe. There was a chaotic celebration called the Feast of Fools. Social roles were reversed. Peasants acted like nobles, nobles acted like peasants, authority figures was mocked, and humor ruled the day. This reinforced the idea of one day where normal rules didn't apply. It's like, like Halloween, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Like where people just dress up for this one thing.
But it's not just a costume because I guess you get the power of a noble, you know? Like it kind of gives you the, the authority that comes with that title.
So I mean, well, the way that they're doing it, because it's like you're fooling people, right? So really, truly, it's capping.
They've been capping since the medieval days. We've been capping.
April 1st is capping day, so you can act like you rich but you really poor.
Oh, I mean, niggas do that all the time, all the time. But it gives you a day now. You have a cap day.
Wow. See, the whole time I thought April Fools is like just pranking people, like from a— from like pranksters. But this origin of it is like talking about reversing roles, social reversing of roles. So like, you know, being a doctor but then you want to act like you the patient, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh yeah, so yeah, you know, so April Fools'—
I wouldn't want my patient to be a doctor. I would not want my patient to be a doctor.
Yeah, and then that's, that's why they fooling you.
Now, Ty, if you had a role reverse with one of your clients, how, how you think that will play out?
Um, the first thing that came up in my spirit is that I don't want that.
I don't want to roll reverse none of my clients.
That thing was loud. I almost cut you off when you said it.
Nah, nah, I ain't going.
So, so, so this is the thing. This is the thing about the role reversal, right?
Mm-hmm.
I have clients, then I have, then I have peers, or should I say younger individuals that are celebrities as athletes who I don't necessarily represent. But I'm a part of their community, right? So I have clients and then I have, I have younger, um, individuals that are, that are talent that's a part of my community. And what I tell them all the time is like, hey man, you like dealing with something that's like abnormal and weird because you're like a celebrity. So like you have to deal with things, you have to— you're growing up in front of the camera, you're making mistakes in front of public opinion. So like Yeah, I can mess up, but my mess up ain't gonna be televised in front of like, you know, 10,000 people or a million people or 10 million people. If I'm sitting in the back of the plane, it don't matter if I'm sitting in the back of the plane. But if you got a hit record and you're so-called supposed to be like rich and famous and you're sitting at the back of the plane, people are kind of like looking at you like What's going on? Is it not working?
Yeah, yeah. Oh, are you broke?
You broke?
Because you don't want to roll a verse on being broke. Not, not, not this.
Absolutely. You don't want to do that. I mean, it'll probably be your best interest, honestly, if you—
if you're— do you think, Ty, you could take being judged by that many people?
Could I? Do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, I don't really care, you know what I'm saying? And, and in my defense, I'm more thoughtful than, than a lot of these creative people. So there's certain stuff I'm just not gonna say, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can actually really, really, really mean it, and if I do say it, I'm gonna take time and be thoughtful about it. But, you know, maybe if, if I was like, maybe like 8, 9, 10 years ago, I was living a different life, then yeah, yeah, no, probably wouldn't work. But today, they can come on into my Netflix at 10:30, fasting 25 days a month from, from 6 AM to 3 PM to going to Topgolf when I can't go to a regular golf club, you know what I'm saying? Or me, you know, not having no side chicks. Like, you know, it's like, you know, yeah, I'm— my life ain't juicy enough. Even if there was a million people that would see my mess-ups, you know, my mistakes, like, oh man, I forgot to pay somebody, you know. 30 days— I was 30 days late on the payment, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, like that, like those are my mistakes of things I might forget something, or I'm beefing with American Express, you know what I'm saying?
Like, nah, but you make a great point. It's like juicy mistakes have value, and I guess like a criti— like a critical culture. But like just a human mistake, that ain't gonna be enough to get the people going. They got— they, they need some meat.
Yeah, I don't got no hidden kids. I'm not cheating on my wife. Like, I just don't— I don't have a— I don't have a life that just make people be like the— you know, I just don't. I'll be more like, uh, a— you know, I'll be more like Earn Your Leisure. I'll be like those guys. Like, you know what I'm saying? They have like a very— because their business is set up around them giving advice and wisdom around financial direction.
Right?
So if you find out that they doing some slime scumbag type stuff behind scenes and it's being amplified, it kind of hurt their business. So I think they're old enough and wise enough to know that versus talent are young and naive to a certain degree.
Something I thought was really interesting, I don't know if you saw this, and I don't know her, but I saw that Pinky Cole recently filed for bankruptcy, right? And that became a conversation on the internet. And it's kind of like, she's a business person, she's an entrepreneur, she has restaurants. That's a part of business, that happens. But because she is a celebrity, because she is a name, she's Atlanta Housewife now, people want to use that to have conversations about things that feel a little personal, almost like a personal attack against her. And I just feel like that's kind of crazy because she's, you know, she's an entrepreneur. This happens in business. This is not anything new. She didn't create some new thing, but because who she is now, people want to have a conversation about her.
Right, right, right. Yeah, I think that the bankruptcy thing is, um, the bankruptcy thing is kind of like a real business, you know, structure. Uh, I'm not as wise or have a lot of research around bankruptcy myself. Um, I know that there's multiple, multiple people over multiple, multiple decades that have used that as a tool to like reset their business, to eliminate debt. You know, I don't know how— I don't know how much that really works. Um, but I think, I think like with someone like, um, Pinky, where I think people probably, you know, would try to use it to pick on her, but they might see that, hey, you know, you was talking about building a business and you was doing a lot of the PR stuff, and then, you know, you go bankrupt. You know, I think people don't have enough knowledge about bankruptcy to decipher if it's a positive thing for a business person to do or a negative thing for a business person to do.
Exactly, exactly.
I think, you know, I think Pinky is just doing what's best for her personally and for her from a business perspective, you know. Um, and the same thing happened with 50 Cent had filed for bankruptcy. And I remember one of those different things. I think so. Like, for me, you know, I live in this world for myself where I try to like learn from all these different situations, but I also, you know, try to like mind my business, you know what I'm saying? So like, um, you know, I have a concept that I've lived by that I don't talk negatively about people that that I don't know, because I don't know if I'll end up meeting that person and then have to regret every negative thing I said about them. And now that person is like my number one fan trying to help me with things, but for a decade before I got somewhere, I'm like bashing them. I don't really know them. So I have a very firm and stern, like, approach to that. Um, and you know, it's— it has steered me well, uh, from that perspective. And, and if I have stepped into that puddle of regret— oh man, I should have never said this, now this person is really cool— I'll tell them, you know what I'm saying? I'll be like, hey man, I just got to come out and say to you, like, before meeting you, just the perception of you was like this, but like, I just gotta apologize because I was saying stuff about you and I never knew you, you know what I'm saying? And, and I'm— I like to have that level of integrity, you know what I'm saying? I like to have You know, uh, low blood pressure, high integrity, you know what I'm saying?
Low blood pressure, high integrity, man. Please put it on the shirt, please. But nah, seriously, Ty, I think what you're, what you're saying is how to avoid being an April Fool. I'm kind of seeing that as like a theme this episode is like, because we understand that there is a culture around April Fools that goes back to the medieval times. Like, we've been kind of looking at the roles people play and kind of like how they affect society, right? But how do you avoid being an April Fool? I think, Ty, you just kind of gave some great advice there, especially when it comes to like people, right? Like we're all people, even if you don't know anybody, because social media gives us a chance to just have opinions. You can have opinions about anything right now or anyone right now, right? And you just never know. It's so interesting kind of seeing— I'm pretty sure you saw Jay-Z did a recent interview with, uh, GQ, right? And everyone has an opinion about it. I wonder how these opinions would change if Jay-Z— if you walked into a restaurant, Jay-Z walked in, right? Would your opinion change now that you've seen Jay? Maybe, maybe not. But I just feel like it's easy to sit behind a computer and just say whatever about whoever because you don't— you don't think there's no ramifications. But I had to experience one time where I reviewed an album. I don't remember what album it was, But I went to a studio session and I met somebody and I was like, "Oh, I'm Yo." They was like, "You do the album reviews, right?" I was like, "Yeah." And they was like, "Bro, why you say so da da da da da?" Bro just start puff his chest out at me, man. And I'm just like, "Bro, what?" Then I think he produced one of the songs on the album, man. So now we having a conversation and it wasn't like a bad conversation. I just wasn't ready. To have to defend what I said. I said, hey bro, actually I kind of fuck with the album. Actually, now that you think about it, like, I'm just fucking around. But yeah, it was interesting having to suddenly discuss something I wrote to somebody that I was not prepared to speak to about it. And we, we're cool, you know what I'm saying? It was no problem. But it's just like, bruh, He knew who I was. He figured out who I was and what I said. It triggered something for him, man. You know what I'm saying? I feel like people don't have that experience on— I don't know.
Listen, you know, the— I just— I am— I do believe in mental health and wellness, and I do taking days off, but I also believe that dumb holidays should not be, uh, you know, talked about as much. I don't think that They should do executive order to get rid of April Fool's Day. That's what they should do.
Really? You think it should be wrapped up?
Either I think it should be wrapped up, or I think it should turn into, uh, April Field Day. That's what it should be. It should be April Field Day. It should be a globe— it should be a, a national field day every April 1st where people, just like they do Easter egg hunts, Yeah, they need to make it to April Field Day and get some of these bigger people in shape in the United States of America, because we do have a problem with our food system that sets us up for failure. And I think April Field Day will help us combat the FDA— that was the FDA— terrible regulations on what they're— the poison they're putting in our food. So at least we can out-exercise these chemicals and nonsense, at least for one day.
At least one day. Do you think about it like field day back in school?
Yep, exactly. You got the little beanbag races, put it in the beanbag, beanbag races, do all the things, man. The track and field, the exercise, the dodgeball, you know what I'm saying? Throw in a little— throw all type of little field days in there, man. I think it should be a national holiday. The banks should be closed. Everybody go out.
And now we just have the day off. I feel you. I feel you.
That's what we need. I think it'd be way more beneficial than April Fool's.
Can you tell me a little bit about physical health and why you feel like that's important? For you in your life, man?
You know, growing up, they had this concept about how Black men don't like going to the doctor, and I experienced with my grandfather. And so I just— oh, as far as I can remember, I've always like, somebody said that house on fire, so I ain't gonna go in that house, you know what I'm saying? Rather they was lying, capping, or not. So when I hear Black men don't like to go to the doctor. I'm just like, that sounds like not smart, and I like to do things that sound smart. So I'm gonna go to the doctor because the doctor is going to give me feedback to help me to be preventative. So I do my annual checkups every first quarter. I take them pretty serious. I almost like Debo the doctors to give them to me because what ends up happening— anybody that got insurance, they know this— like, they give you a primary doctor right? And then you have to figure out the dates. And like, sometimes the doctors be so busy, you'll try to book something in February and they don't have an opening until May. And I'm like, sure, listen, I don't play them kind of games, right? So I'm on the other extreme. So, you know, the one extreme is like Black men don't like to go to the doctor. Well, I'm on the other extreme, a Black man that like to go to the doctor. And I'll be— I go So I'll be on the phone like, yeah, I need to go, I need to get into the doctor. I'm not traveling this week. They'll be like, okay, cool. Well, your primary care doctor is not available. I said, I don't got no primary care doctor. Whoever's available, put me down with them. And I always get my dates because I don't have no specialty doctor. So the doctor can run blood work, the doctor can take a urine sample. Doctor can check my blood pressure, check my heart, look in my eyes, all of these different things. I don't need no primary care doctor to stall me for 2 months before I can go and see what's going on with my body. Y'all crazy. But I have a lot of friends that, that be, be dealing with that. I'm like, nah, I pay for the system. I don't pay for one person. That's what I'm paying for. I'm paying for the system. I want to use the system. So overall, we want to make sure if you're paying for something, learn how to use the system and it'll be very beneficial for your health. So, so I take it very serious, bro. Very, like, extremely.
I love that you said that because I do think there's an attachment to your primary care doctor. Like, this is my doctor, so my doctor's not available, now you're on someone else's schedule. You're saying be a part of a system, be a part of— use the system for what it's actually there for.
You got this system, you paying $400, $500 a month in healthcare, and they gonna tell you that they can't see you for 2, 3 months? Nah, nah, nah, nah, bro. Well, pull up the next doctor, boy. I'm just like the NFL team, boy. First, the starter got knocked out, boy. Where the second screen at, boy? The game must go on, boy. I can't wait the 2 weeks for the starter to come back and push the games. I got a game today. I'm living life right now. My heart is functioning and pumping right now. Where's the— I got a list of 4 doctors, and if them 4 not available, I got a 5th one I'm gonna go to. Like, what are we talking about? It don't even make sense. A lot of stuff in our day-to-day life, you know, to me it doesn't make sense.
What else? What, what other things don't make sense to you? Um, That's a good one though. That is a good one.
Paying for public transportation. Why do they call it public transportation if you got to pay for it?
That's like paying for the public park, but you don't have to pay for it.
You just go to the park. If it's public transportation, like, that's like the streets are public. Like, there's so many— why do I gotta pay for public transportation? I understand why I gotta pay for private transportation. You know what I'm saying? But why I gotta pay for public transportation? It doesn't, it doesn't make sense. It's for the public, you know, like, so that means that, that means that anybody that is have access to it should be able to just get on and go wherever they need to go. You know what I'm saying? It don't make sense that they spell read and red the same way. Like, it's so many things that don't make sense to me in the United States.
That's a good one too. I mean, Ty, you're, you're making a lot of sense today. You're just in your bag in terms of just things that seem foolish. That we shouldn't subscribe to. I mean, especially if you can decide not to subscribe to something you shouldn't. Um, in the Coach Playbook Volume 2, we have a chapter called Play Stupid Games, Get Super Prizes. And I think April Fool's Day is 100% a day of stupid prizes. So that's one reason to abolish it, because obviously pranks don't allow people to, uh, feel good, you know what I'm saying? It's not— it does feel good to get pranked, but also doesn't feel good to get a stupid prize. Um, for people who haven't read the book yet, Ty, why was that chapter important during that part of your life, in that era of your life, to know that stupid prizes can be won by playing stupid games?
I think that for me, I wanted to highlight that we're already set up to be behind the ball as Black and brown people. Like, we're set up in deficit in a lot of different ways that we don't even know about. So when you get a, a layup, or you get an opportunity to like change your life, you can't go and do— you can't go and be stupid about it, right? It's like, if you represent a talent And I talk about this in the book. Like, I never— first of all, I don't smoke and drink, right? I've never been drunk in my life. I smoked weed like 3 times when I was 18, 19 years old, and a few black and miles, and I thought it was stupid. I'm like, this is dumb, right? So, so I never drank or smoked with my clients. So, you know, I never— I saw the, the guys just like before I was able to be successful in the business. And, you know, and I've always just felt like I didn't want to fall victim to that. And not that victim is not always the best word, but, um, I've always envisioned for myself that I would marry along with a woman that's coming up with me. And we're in like, it's like, you know, maybe like a 5-year radius older or younger than me, 5 to 7 years. But I never really envisioned me being 10 years older than my wife. Just me personally. Um, but I do think that working in the entertainment business is so tricky because it's entertainment, right? So you're— if you're not married, you know, by the time you 35, between 35 and 40, and you start to be successful in this business, it's a young business, you know. And a lot of the women are attractive and younger than you, and, and you have— you're in a certain position of power. You got to have a lot of discipline in that aspect. And if And if you find yourself dating the same women that's the same age as your clients, you know, that could hurt your business down the road, whether you realize it or not. So that is a stupid game, and, um, you will get a stupid prize because that client could take that and feel a certain way about it because you might snipe one of they— one of them girls, the other girls they like, and it turns into a thing that it shouldn't have to be because you're old enough to kind of like date outside, uh, you know, date up, to say the least.
Did you always imagine that as you got older? Because what— what— how old were you when you started managing talent?
When I started managing talent, uh, it was 2008. That was like I can really put my, my hand to— I wasn't playing football anymore, so I tried to— that's when I started to work my hands and like managing producers, songwriters, artists, uh, it started to like make a little bit of money in 2012. So I would say from a financial gain perspective, 2012 when it was like, oh, money is getting made. So that's, that's been 14 years, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
But did you always imagine it maturing as you've got ahead? Like, as you were moving forward, you were like, okay, by the time I'm 40, at the very least, I know I'm gonna be a mature man, you know? I'm not gonna necessarily be playing these games. Like, did you always imagine that, or as you got older, you knew, like, okay, I'm definitely not getting trapped in that world of playing around where I know I'm not supposed to be playing?
Well, I know for me, man, it was hard to imagine getting to 40. When you growing up and you see violence and you, and you experience loss, you know, early. I didn't see a lot of violence. I like my eyes on violence. I just experienced it through loss, you know, at an early age, um, through things that was tragic. So like for me, getting to 30 or getting to 35, when you're 19, 20, you can't— you ain't even planning that far. So I, I wasn't nowhere near thinking about what my mind state was going to be like at 40 years old. You know, I just always just really was conscious of like, when you're representing talent, this is abnormal. I've always been conscious that this is an abnormal thing. It's abnormal for me to be on tour with an artist and then women are telling me that they'll sleep with me if I let them on the bus too. You know what I'm saying? Like That, that is abnormal. I've always known that that was abnormal. First of all, I'm too cool, so I'm like, what, you think that? You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I don't need no— I don't need no tour bus to get a girl. Like, what is this? I felt more offended.
Yeah, right, right, right, right.
You think that I need this? You think I need this tour bus to get a girl? Like, you think I need, like, I was more offended than anything that those type of things would be said to me. And I was like, what? Plus I'll be at work. So that's another thing. I'm at work. This ain't no— I'm not hanging out. Like, I'm at work. When everybody was partying, I'm in the bunks counting the money from the end of the night, making sure that they ain't get cheated. You know what I'm saying? But that was just my mindset, you know, when I was at work. Because I did identify that entertainment was work. I didn't really identify entertainment as not work. So when I was promoting strip clubs, I was at the door. I wasn't trying to date none of the dancers. I'm like at the door clocking the money. Like, I'm like, 10, it's 5 of y'all, that's $100, bro. Nah, ain't really no discounts. It's out there. You're like, I, I was just cold. I'm at work, you know what I mean? So for me getting to this point in life, it just— even though I didn't plan for it because I didn't know if I was going to live to 40, I was always just so hyper-focused on the work anyway, you know what I'm saying? But that's why I never really was able to like identify the young girl, because when I go hang out, I don't go— I don't go hang out places where young girls hang out at. At 40, you know what I'm saying? At 28, at 28 I did, or at 25 I did, because that's just where you go hang out at between the ages of 25 and 28. You're gonna meet, right, 22 years old, that's 21 years old, you know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
Or when you on tour and you connecting with young journalists, like some of these young journalists and radio personalities and, and, and, you know, uh, tour managers, like a lot of people are young because the money that they're paying to do these type of things are not— it's not a lot of money, you know what I'm saying? So like, at all, photographer, like, these are young creative people that are like trying to figure their way out. So you'll meet these men or women, you know, depending on what your, what your desires are. But more so what I'm speaking about, about from a man's perspective, you'll meet young women that are journalists, videographers, photographers, um, that are tour managers, that are uh, musicians, songwriters. You'll meet all these younger, younger women, and you have to identify what that might be for you or not for you, you know, at a certain point. So for me, I just been always focused on that business side of things the majority of the times, that I didn't really give myself a lot of margin of error to play a stupid game and to win a stupid prize.
Makes perfect sense. I think distinguishing entertainment as work is really important, and knowing that, like, when I'm at work, I'm not playing. I think sometimes entertainment can be seen as there are certain perks that come with having a hot artist or having a hot song. And like, you know, it's almost kind of like when you get a job and the job has benefits, then certain people see certain things as a benefit of the job, but it's a stupid prize. Like, right, the fine print says you shouldn't do that, even if it gets presented to you you need to be smart enough, or at least have a certain kind of moral compass to know like, this is not what I'm in it for. Um, but again, it's like, you know, flight benefits. You work at Delta, you gonna take a flight. It's a flight benefit, right? But you know what I'm saying, you gotta, you gotta recognize what's the benefit of the work and what is not for you.
Yeah, I mean, like, if like, even when I think about like my relationships when I'm dating people, right? Like, if, if my girl want to come to a show and I'm the manager of the artist and it's only her, that's my plus one, right? But once it gets more than her, like if she got friends, then I'm just buy 3 tickets for her, her 2 friends, right? But if it's just her, I just add as my plus one, right? But the moment it's her and somebody else, I buy 2 tickets. So now she's even paid for it because I just never wanted confusion on like how you use your influence when it comes to clients because, you know, Artists are sensitive about their stuff. It ain't— that just don't go across with music, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's their— it's the world that's been built around them. They're sensitive about that. So you got to make sure that you're not the one that's making that thing less than, right? So if the— if, if an artist buy his— buy himself a thing of Hennessy and he likes to drink Hennessy after the show, But by the time he gets to the show, all his friends done drunk all the Hennessy, you know, he just like, that, that was, that, that is something that's dear to him or her at the end of the show, right? It might be donuts, it might be, you know, sparkling water, whatever it is, but they become sensitive about it because they're like, yo, I don't did all this work, I don't paid everybody, I get off the bus and now my donut's gone. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like, I just always been hyper, hypersensitive about like, I'm, I'm working for you, right? Regardless of how much influence I have, no matter how much more I know about the business than you, I'm working for you. Even when, when I'm an equity stakeholder in the business, I'm still working for you And then in reverse, you're working for me and we're working together, right? But when, when, when I don't own anything and I'm coming to be of service to your business as a manager, bro, I am literally working on your behalf. So like, I gotta make sure that my personal wants and my personal needs don't interfere with your business. That will create confusion, you know? So if my girl want to come to a show and it's just me, I know I already got at least one ticket I can get free that artists ain't gonna care about, right? I'm saying, and they probably won't care about if I got 5, but I'm not even gonna go that route. I'm gonna pay for it.
Ty, that's such a, like, an intuitive thing to do. But was it like a situation that happened in the past where you were like, oh yeah, nah, I ain't never doing that again? Or you just always kind of had that sense of valuing what the— what is the artist and what is yours?
Well, what happened first was I didn't want nobody to ask me for no free tickets. So I feel like if I buy the tickets, you got to buy the tickets.
Sure.
So that's where it started at. But over time, it created a blind— it fulfilled a blind spot that I didn't even have at the time about being more, um, thoughtful about the resources that artists have that they're earning off of the back of their success. Like every artist that I've ever worked with, I worked with them to help them grow. I didn't work with them to be the face of their business. I wanted to not get fired. I wanted to do a good job. I wanted to get paid for the job I did. And I wanted to make sure I was respectful of their art and to help be as protective as they allowed me to be. You know, I've been fired because I was too protective for the artists and they was uncomfortable that their friends would say that I would be yelling at them and stuff like that. And it wouldn't be me yelling at them, I just would be holding them accountable, trying to overcharge their friend. But the artist wasn't brave enough to tell the friend like, yo, y'all wrong, my manager's just trying to protect me. They just over time couldn't take it anymore and they just got rid of me. You know what I'm saying? And, and that's cool. I'm gonna go to sleep well knowing that I was able to protect the artist. And, and they later came back and was like, man, thank you, you always— I, I get it now, now that you're not around. Now I understand what you was doing. And it was all good because at the end of the day, that is what a manager is supposed to do. That's what a business manager— anybody that's supposed to be around you helping guide your career, they got to have certain, uh, like like, uh, shortcomings and protective mechanisms to help you grow, you know. But with all that being said, you know, that's chapter 4 of the book, uh, when it comes down to those stupid games. Play stupid games, get stupid prizes, you know what I'm saying.
But I see why you're very anti-April Fools' Ty. You don't like being the fool. You don't like playing foolish games. You don't like ending up in foolish situations. You're just very anti-The Fool.
I mean, we got limited time here, man, you know what I'm saying? We got limited time. And if you Black or brown, you pretty much probably was under oppression growing up, rather you realize it or not. So when you get a runway to see success on any level, you don't really got the time to be playing no games, man. At least that's how I feel. I ain't trying to play no games, man. If I want to play some games, man, I'm gonna pick up my Switch. Or pick up PlayStation 2 or something, man. I'm gonna go to Topgolf or something, man. I don't like playing games like that, for real.
All right, I got one more question. Ty, you are 42 now. Congratulations, happy birthday. Um, what does 42 mean to you?
Freedom. Yeah, freedom. Like, like, for me, I look at age, he's like, you're going around this time, you know, the Lord has given us grace and mercy to be here longer, to carry out his will, to serve people, to get the things that you desire as well. Because I believe the more I'm obedient to the Lord and I'm servicing people, even people that kind of like I don't like, you know, but I'm servicing them through the love of the Lord, I in return will have— will have the opportunity to experience the thing that my heart desires. You know what I'm saying? So for me, you know, loving people and caring for people and serving people that sometimes I feel like are not good people, but they don't— they don't— they don't use their power for good. Um, me doing that and being obedient to that means that I get to do things like this, you know, talk about wellness. And, you know, we don't make a lot of money off this show, but like, we still get an opportunity to talk to people and kind of build up a catalog so that people No matter if it's 10 people that come away and be like, man, I really, I really seen the show, that makes me, that makes me happy, you know what I'm saying? So like, at 42, I'm just getting more focused on that obedience to serve people, love people, even people I don't necessarily like, because that— Jesus don't care about if you like somebody. It's about you serving them and following your— following his will and being obedient. And making sure you're amplifying and bringing them closer to Christ and, and not getting in the way of them building that relationship with God and you being a light of that. So, so that's, that's what 42 means for me, is like freedom, because I get to live as free as possible within the boundaries of obedience. And coming to that realization is why I said 42 is like freedom for me.
Amen. Hey, well, that's another episode of FIM with Ty and Yo. Hope you guys got some good out of this. Uh, please tell us in the comments what April Fool's Day means to you, and if you were gonna abolish April Fool's Day, what would you replace it with? Ty has Phil Day. Um, but if it was April Fool's Day with something— April Phil Day— if he's gonna replace it, I think you should. I think you should. Every April 1st. We gotta, we gotta do a Run the Field Day, FYM Field Day coming 2028, you know. Um, but that's, you know, Get the Culture Playbook Volume 2 is out right now. Please cop that. And if you got it, please tell somebody. Dang, Ty, you, you, you told me, uh, you was going to talk about some of the feedback you got on the book, uh, so far.
What we're gonna do is we're gonna do a whole episode, maybe we're gonna do it live You know, maybe we'll do it on live, maybe like in a week or so, and we'll just get live feedback in real time. And maybe we'll start promoting it. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get live feedback in real time and go and go live with it.
Okay, let's do that. So be looking forward to that, the FYM live about The Culture Playbook Volume 2, coming real soon.
