When In Rome, Talk Business

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Tread +@onepalaton.com yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. What's happening?

What's good, Ty?

Man, I ain't shit.

Now you gotta tell me where you calling in from.

Calling in from Rome. I'm in Rome right now. Rome?

This your first time in Rome, right?

Nah, this is my second time in Rome.

Your second time?

Yeah.

Now why are you in Rome?

Vacation, man. Gonna be a hot summer, man.

Vacation?

Post pandemic summer, man. You gotta get some rest here, Paul.

So you prepping for the summer? This first you've been saying. You're the first person I know who has been saying that this summer is the first post pandemic summer. I don't completely agree. Cause Covid is outside. Please put on your mask. But it is the first real summer since 2020, I believe.

Yeah, this is the first real summer when you ain't got to put no mask on to get on the airplane. Niggas is going to be outside.

You should have your mask on though. Please have your mask on.

You should protect yourself at all costs. Word of the Florida Mayweather. But at all times. But, but like, like I said, when federal government start, you know, laxing on the rules, we as humans lack discipline anyway. So we don't have to do anything. You know, you're going to have a small percent of people on the plane that still wear their mask, like myself. But you're going is outside. Outside is now a personality type, you know what I'm saying? Like period.

Tell me about your flight. How long was the flight?

This is going to be outside. Flight was almost nine hours, man. I slept, man. I slept on the flight, man. My flights. My flights really Ain't that exciting because I sleep on the plane.

Okay, so you flew in. How long you been there?

I got here on the 26th.

Okay, so you about three, four days in?

Yeah, I'm about three, four days in. I got one more day, then I'm back. I'm back. I'm back in the trap. Well, not in the trap. Back in the business. The business office.

Well, before we talk about the business office, what does vacation for Ty looks like?

Vacation is nothing but working in a different place.

Nigga.

That'S what vacation is. Vacation is working working in a different place that's not actually home. Where most people will say, hey, that is a vacation. That is what vacation is for Ty right now.

I hear that. Do you feel different though, working in a different place?

Nah, it's all business. It's universal. It's all business.

Well, something that I always found interesting was when you guys were putting together the Saunders Son album, you went to the Bahamas. Now you went to Dr. Dominican Republic.

Yep.

And I always wanted to know why. Why go to the doctor to work on an album? Like, what inspired that thought that you wanted to leave LA and go somewhere else to work?

I mean, two things. The primary thing was that's where Brent wanted to go because his dad is Dominican, so he wanted to, you know, work, do the album in the Doctor. Secondly, and this is gonna go over niggas head, we'll have to revisit this maybe in volume two of the culture playbook is when you record at certain places outside of the United States of America, you get access to an additional scream of revenue called neighboring rights. And neighboring rights. If you record your album in a place like Dr. Or numerous of other countries outside of the US you are entitled to a royalty screen called neighboring rights. And it's basically just a royalty off of radio screens for the actual artists. It may be a little bit more complicated than what I just explained, but you do not get those rights if you record your album in the United States of America. Because the United States of America is not under the agreement that a lot of other countries have pertaining to that specific type of income stream for musicians.

Now, I didn't know that. I was not aware. Okay, we definitely have to revisit that because that just opens up a whole another conversation about changing locations and working under different conditions that could benefit you in the long run.

Yeah, hey man, you know, fuck your money, man. You know, it's three ways. Three, three things that's the most important when you're trying to get some Fuck you money outside of your wellness.

But when we talking, you said three things.

Yeah, it's three things, you know, outside of your wellness, but we specifically talking about business. And the fuck you money aspect of it is, one, don't forget the money. Two, don't forget the money. Three, don't forget the money. And if you don't know every single way that you can make some money with your business, then you forgetting the money. Very simple, but complex.

I do, I do like that. Don't forget the money. When do you feel like you started to instill that in your business practice that you always want to know how to make the money in various ways?

That's what I was taught. I never had a business that I. That's what I was taught. I remember that from. I don't know if it was from my grandfather or, you know. No, it was really from my grandfather. Because it's about you learn the game so that you don't get taken advantage of. In your process of learning the game. You learn how the money is made for whatever industry you're trying to work in. That's the problem with the music business. People are too goddamn creative and artsy and they push back on the business, which is the reason why they doing this shit. Not all, but a good amount of people would not be pursuing the arts in such a viscerous way, in a vicious way, should I say, if they wasn't seeing that it's changing the life, it could change the life of their family. So they get into arts and they don't even learn how it works. So that you're not only making the money, but also protecting the money that you need to make through ownership, through hiring the right people, through understanding the different screens of royalties. Even if you don't know it, study it, find it, ask questions, all that type of shit. So, you know, I was always taught, learn the game so you don't get cheated. Because if I'm shooting dice and I can't and I don't know the baseline of the dice, shoot dice fast. So you gotta learn the game of the basis of the dice because you know, niggas count fast. Picking up, down, picking up the dice fast, picking up the money like you can lose count, lose focus, and next thing you know, you don't got screwed over because you ain't really learned the game and learn how to play it at a fast pace. But first you got to learn it. So that is my learning about business is to learn the game so that you don't get Taken advantage of.

Do you remember the fastest paced year for you in business?

Fastest paced year for me in business. Shit, probably this year.

Yeah. It's only May.

Yeah.

Realize, bro, what made this year so fast?

What made this year so fast? Man, it's a multitude of things going on. Multitude of things going on. We ain't even. I ain't even dropped. We didn't drop the big, big album. We got, like, still got, like, two, three, four big, big projects that's coming out this year that requires a lot of focus and energy and effort and time. You know what? I'm lying.

I agree with you. Look, I agree with you. I feel like when you have these projects, the time flies. It moves extremely fast. But I think that's why I liked your analogy about dice, because it does feel like if you take your eyes off the money, when you look back, it could be gone, you know, or you're dealing with a smaller pot.

Yeah. I mean, you know, and I just.

Don'T think people recognize that speed.

Nah, it's hard to recognize that speed, man, if you don't know. Just like, we just think about when people get on the car and they drive and you see old people driving, they driving slow as hell because they still trying to make sure they're going the right way. Like, they're like, you know, okay, am I going the right way? Am I getting to somebody way, like, or even when you see somebody that got different, you know, license plates than the city or the state they in, you're like, oh, they not from here. They trying to figure out where they going. And they're slower. They're slowing up traffic. You know, whatever the case may be, they life is all about. You can go fast if you are educated, but these niggas be going fast, uneducated and getting wrecks, get screwed over, get robbed at gun plate, gunpoint, whatever the case may be. And they don't, you know, they forgot the money.

I do agree, though. And again, just to piggyback off the driving analogy, it's like when you get your learner's permit at 16, right. You gotta drive with somebody. I feel like in music business specifically, you can just get in the car and go, you know, there's no one that's going to get in there with you and make sure that you're putting in the proper hours. No one's going to be there to make sure that you don't run into a wall they might find out you wrecked just because you was going 110 and a Maserati that they don't know how you afford it. You know, you can get a fast car real quick, don't mean you can drive it.

Enough lie, brother. I'm telling you, man. Shit. Crazy.

So again, though, you're in Rome right now, you on vacation. And I think that's one thing or one side of the business that I don't know how people talk about vacationing. Like, for you, what was your first vacation? I feel like you don't take those.

My first vacation was 2005. 2005 to Toronto. It was my first time. I remember going on vacation. Yeah.

And this is what was what encouraged that thought, like, I need to get away. Let me get out of Atlanta. Let me go somewhere and decompress.

Yeah, it was none of that. I was dating a woman that lived in Toronto.

I can't say it was none of that. So you just go on a vacation and just be booed up?

Yeah, that was definitely a vacation. That was booed up. I ain't never been. I got invited. It was doing Christmas holidays. Fuck it, vacation.

I'm talking about vacationing in business.

Yeah. I'm just telling you, that was my first time in my mind, I didn't have to work. Nigga, that was a vacation. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have to work right now, but I'm working. That's a choice. This is a vacation. But I'm working. I'm always going to choose working so I can keep going on these goddamn vacations.

Again. It's just that balance, though, right? Again, we talk about work, we're talking about hours. We're talking about separating yourself from pleasure and enjoyment and relaxing because things have to get done. I always envision vacationing as a time to just, like, separate yourself. I just feel like you find vacationing to be something in the middle, where you separate yourself from a location, but not necessarily from the workflow.

Yeah, I mean, vacation for me is like, it helps with business, it helps with creativity. You know what I'm saying? And that is, for me, you know, at times, more important than, you know, working in the States on a certain project.

I hear that. I hear that. And again, I think that's just something that I haven't seen articulated a lot growing up. When people talk about vacationing, as far as how it assists with the business, I didn't see a lot of vacationing growing up. I just saw a lot of work. I saw a lot of, like, grind. I didn't see a lot of like, oh, let's Take off. Like, it wasn't a lot of taking off.

Yeah, I mean, everybody. You know, balance is important, and balance is a. Balance is a perspective, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, wouldn't you. You know, balance is only needed if you feel strained or weighed down in one area. You know what I'm saying? But balance becomes a way of life when you're doing what you love. You know what I mean? Like, I spoke to a stockbroker today in front of the Coliseum who basically said that his dream really was to be a sports agent. But he got in the stockbroker and started making so much money that now he's like, fuck, man, I should have just been a sports agent. But instead, he ended up being a stockbroker, and he was just managing their monies. But that really wasn't what his passion was, you know what I'm saying? So he probably is on a vacation right now, you know what I mean? But in actuality, for me having that same conversation, I'm not doing nothing that I'm not passionate about. Like, I'm not that. I never been that type of person. You know what I'm saying? Me and my mom had different vantage points when I wanted to transfer from a full scholarship. And she was like, why are you doing that? You should just stay and finish that free education. And I was like, I don't want to have no regrets. Fuck that. I'm out. You know what I'm saying? So when we start talking about the concept of balance, vacation, business, all of these different aspects of things in life is just about the perspective. When you love what you're doing, you're never running from it. If we're honest with ourselves, we're taking vacations because we feel like we're. We get a weird. We're getting away from the thing that we probably don't even enjoy doing. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I think that's a fact. And again, it's like the guy you met today, stockbroker. He wanted to do something, and then he started making money, and that was enough for him to not pursue that desire. He was able to fill that void with the cash flow. But as he talks to you today, he's reminded that there was something else he wanted to do. I feel like ever since I met you, I realized that some people don't have those regrets, that they actually chose the life they wanted and was able to pursue that consistently without ever stopping. And I think that's. That is the new American dream. To me is being able to do what you want, live the life that you want, and not look back later on and be like, man, I really wish I chose another path 1,000%.

I mean, listen, at the core of it, at the core of like, you know, business and fuck you, money and lifestyle and love and family, people just want to be happy. And the fastest route for happiness is pursuing what you love. There is no marriage, there is no relationship, There is no amount of money. There isn't. There isn't anything that can stop you from feeling the thing that you're passionate about ever. If you're passionate about something and you put it on the back burner because you got kids or you got married or you got a high paying job, that's nowhere near what you're passionate about. Once you are fulfilled in that area, meaning in money or a mother or a husband or wife, that passion is always gonna be there and it's gonna fucking sit on you. And if you never, ever, ever address it in no shape, no fashion, no form as you get older, that, that shit probably can kill you, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Having regrets of your passion, not pursuing your passion, that shit can kill you. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how serious I take that shit.

I think you're right. I also think that that's like so consistent that we see in the world and not just in music, but using music as an example. If you have a passion project that you want to work on and you continue to put it off because you feel like, I need to make this kind of song or I need to make this kind of album, I need to work with these kind of people. And you keep pushing off that thing that you're yearning to do, you're not going to be happy. No matter how many plaques you get, no matter how many accolades, no matter how many, whatever the things that you receive, it's not going to fulfill the fact that you didn't do what's calling to you. I think we all have a calling. It speaks to you. You know, sometimes it's louder than others, but it doesn't get any quieter. And there's nothing you can fill that void with, you know, money. Money's nice, but money's not going to shut it up.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

So, yeah, I feel you. I think you, you onto something here with that. But again, I think it's like I was talking to a friend the other day and she was saying how look up the things people say on their deathbed, right? The regrets they talk about. And a lot of the times it's just that there's things they wish they did, there's things they wish they pursued, they wish they were easier on themselves, they wish they didn't, you know, judge themselves compared to other people. And I feel like those regrets are, are easily avoidable when you listen to that voice. And there's, there's a chapter in the book where you really touch upon how discipline helps you hear that inner voice. Because there's so many voices that's going to dissuade you. There's so many things that kind of come and interrupt that connection between you and that voice. So when did you start, when did you start hearing that passion voice? I know you, I know we talk about football, I know we talk about music, but like, I remember talking to you about 2015, 2016, where things weren't exactly moving the way they are right now. Like, how did that voice keep you going?

Well, I mean, the passion thing was something that I just felt for a very long time. It wasn't until I was 18 years old that I realized I can't solely just do something for money. Like, I learned that through trial and error, you know what I'm saying? Like, I learned that through like multi level marketing gigs and shit. Like talking to niggas that unbate millions of dollars off multi level marketing. And they like see that I could potentially do the same thing they wanted me on they team. And I'm just like, I bet I'm getting this money. Then when I started doing that, I'm like, damn. And this ain't. I don't like this. I don't give a how much money I can make. This right here ain't gonna work. You know what I'm saying? And that's when it started to click to me that all right, I gotta find whatever it is, I have to be passionate about it to the point where I'll do it for free. Because the type of life that I wanted, I knew that it had to be attached to something that I was so passionate about that I would do it even when it wasn't making me any money or it wasn't even making sense to people, no matter who those people were. So we started talking about business. We started talking about new shoes and how it makes you uncomfortable and you gotta wear em until you break them in. Like, I was always willing to try new shoes as long as I was passionate about wearing them motherfucking shoes, man.

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But.

But she talked about kids that move around and have to transfer to different schools, doing certain important parts of their upbringing and how that can make a kid more relatable and make them be able to perform better in the room full of strangers because you're growing up. And one of the things that we didn't ever realize when we was growing up is that in order to be successful in business, you have to be able to walk up and introduce yourself to strangers. You have to be able to wake up every day and hear people tell you no new people, people you never met before, or being able to talk to somebody that's coming from a completely different walk of life than you a. About something that you're passionate about. And so when she said, like, starting over because you're going to new schools, it made me feel like, dang, that's like starting a new business. Because I had to transfer in the middle of, like, and had to learn new people, new friends, you know, in like, sixth grade. And I never correlated that to how uncomfortable it is starting something new and having to develop a new network of people around it or meet people that's new around it. You know what I'm saying?

Can you repeat that? You went out for a hot second.

I said I never related starting a new school when I was in sixth grade, when, as in the same energy and fear that it has and how uncomfortable it is from starting a new business that you have to go out and you have to find new network of people that had nothing to do with your old business. The skill sets is transferable on like starting the business, but the people that you have to engage with in order for it to be successful are different. Right? So like when you transferring schools and you don't have the same friends since you was in first grade, and you transfer schools to a completely different district, a completely different city, or a completely different state, you start to realize, dang, when I'm older and I'm building a business, in order for that business to grow, I gotta go find new customers. I sometimes gotta even not even have the same customers as my other business because it's not the same, you know? And it made me think, that's really interesting. Like, damn. I'm curious to know the people that are highly successful in business, how did their childhood change? Did they switch schools a lot? You know what I'm saying? Did they move a lot? Like, what are those different things? What triggered them to have this burning desire they can walk up to talk to strangers and pitch their business without even blinking?

Right? Because. And this is the thing about transferring schools or transferring any way, anywhere that's different from where you were before is you don't really know what you're walking into. And I think the earlier you get that into your system, the more seamless that transition is. You know, obviously you, you had a big transition when you were changing schools. In what grade? Was it sixth grade?

Yep.

So how was that for you?

Oh, man, that shit was terrifying. Going into a new school in a homeroom and you don't know no fucking body. Now by this time you in like seventh grade and you don't know nobody. Seventh grade, my nigga. You don't have friends from preschool kids, Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade, sixth grade. That's like almost a decade.

Yeah. And they just gone.

And then now you just gotta start over. That shit was scary as shit and lonely.

And you go into a place where you talk different, you dress a little different, so it's not even like a seamless. Like you went around the corner like you was in a whole different county.

Yeah. And think about it. For me, it happened two times. It happened in seventh grade when I was in all my friends. I made all the way up into sixth grade at the end of like in the middle. And I say sixth grade, but really it was my second month of being in the seventh grade. We transferred. So now all of that is there. Then I was blessed enough to get a Full scholarship to a school that was. I got there, I didn't know nobody, You know what I'm saying? So you had to relearn all of these different people again. You still had. Though you were old enough to be able to keep in contact with the friends from high school. But shit, one year into.

It's that distance, man.

Fuck, the distance is one thing, but, you know, one year into, One year into, like, that process, like, these are completely new people, man. You gotta. God dang walk up and talk to new people. So you gotta think about, like, I. How. How this correlates to, like, growing and wanting to start a business. Wanting to position yourself in a way that you can be successful off of what you're passionate about, bro. Don't you know, people die not finding. Not finding their passions. So we. We talking about trying to go deeper fast, early. We're talking about. We're in our late 20s, early 30s, and we're talking about something passion. Finding passion, something people die without finding. We're talking about starting a business so that you can actually control your time. Majority of our family die before they found that joy. So when we say fuck you, money, we talking about the new American dream and all of this shit, man. This is new. And it ain't easy. It's doable if you're disciplined, consistent, a dreamer, passionate, and following that childhood spirit that told you what you was passionate about. Children are very, very, very fluent in doing the things that they want to do because it makes them happy.

Absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? So, like, we're trying to unlock multiple level. We're trying to unlock multiple levels of happiness through commerce so that we can afford. We can pay for our pursuit of happiness.

Because you gotta pay for it.

You always gotta pay for it, man.

So I didn't have the. The school transfer, but you remind me that where I went to school at in elementary, there was two middle schools. And one of my best friends did not go to the same middle school as me. Actually, a lot of the kids from elementary school went to Morrow Middle. And there's Adamson Middle, right? So I went to Adamson Gang accused him tomorrow, middle. So by the time I make it to Morrow High School, you're seeing people three years later, right? Like, essentially same people, but they're different. And I don't know what they went through at Morrow Middle. Like, I don't know what it was, but I feel like those kids had, like, a different edge to them than the kids that went to Adamson. And again, it's like you don't really know what happens to people when they go away, but when you see them again, you recognize that there's something different about you. There's something that has changed you. And it could have been the kind of curriculum, it could have been the kind of structure, but I feel that way about people is you don't really know what people go through even, even at that stage, even as children. Going to a different school can change your entire life. Going to a different job can change your entire life. Going just changing states, you know. And I think sometimes it's hard to encourage people to uproot themselves versus like hey man, sometimes you not going to change until you change where you are. So how do you encourage people to leave the places that's not really serving.

Them no more, man, I tell every single person and the core and the basis of this fourth episode, it's about being uncomfortable, man. There's so many lessons to be learned, especially with the fucking Americans, us Americans, our first world problems. There is so many lessons to be learned from being uncomfortable and sitting in it. You know what I'm saying? Especially when you're on this self discovery of a journey for yourself.

Mm.

You know what I'm saying? Like the concept that we want the things that we want out of life and we're not willing to work for them. And I'm not saying work from them and not being able to achieve them. I'm talking about actually working and seeing that there are achievable and you know, for most people, they just want to be happy if they can land a job or career that they actually enjoy doing. I've met several, several, several. My first love, all she wanted to do was be a chemist. Her father was a chemist. All she wanted to do was be a chemist. She played soccer on a full scholarship at Howard and studied pharmacy. And they didn't have pharmacy in Howard, so she studied chemistry because to her it was the same. And when she graduated, she got her dream job. And if I'm not mistaken, she graduated, I think 2007 and she got her dream job fresh out of college. I think she started that January 2008 and she's been working at that same company since. And she that's her fucking dream job. So for her, she didn't have to start a business to land what she considered what she working every day on something that she's passionate about. There's countless stories like that where their passion and their dream job, they didn't have to start a business to Actually get to that place, right? And if you can work fresh out of college to start your career, your dream career, you on the right track again, you some fuck you, money. Because at that point, you're working every day about what you passionate about. If you find something else that you're passionate about, that means that when you clock out of the job that you are already passionate about your career that you're already passionate about, you can easily work on what else that you're passionate about, because you don't feel like you are. You never feel like you're working for the man. Holistically, yes. You may feel like, I don't want to go in the job today. I got this bitch as a supervisor, or I got this guy. That's weird. As a supervisor, whatever the case may be. But the moment you are fucking in that shit and you loving it, starting something new on the side becomes easy because you're coming out of your first job with momentum rolling into the second thing you're passionate about. And that second thing that you're passionate about may be something that you don't even know at that particular time that you can make money off of it. You know what I'm saying? You might be a fucking passionate DJ, you may be DJing at the house, you know what I'm saying? And don't even realize that you can actually start making money DJing, you know what I'm saying? Like, but that. That's just something you passionate about. You ain't even doing it for the money, because your first passion, your love, your first passion, your first love, you're already doing it, and you're making a lot of money, you know?

Yeah. And again, you're not only gonna be passionate about one thing. No one's passionate about just one thing.

Most people have multiple.

I don't know how many people. Yeah, but how many people get paid off their passion?

Not a lot.

I feel like you feel like that percentage is smaller than the amount of people that just get paid.

This is the thing, Right?

So, again, if. Go ahead.

This is the easiest way to know if you're at a place in your life right now that you're passionate about. And I have this complex that I've learned over the time with me is that if we're talking, I can't have a conversation with a person if we don't start with truth first. Like, if you want to have a conversation with me and you ain't trying to start with the truth first, then I'm not gonna process none of that shit I'm just gonna be starting. I'm just gonna be thinking about. But wait a minute. That shirt was red. Wait a minute. You said. You said you. You were supposed to be there at 7, but you say you got that 9. Like, wait a minute now. Why would you, you know, like, hold on. I can't even get to the fucking storyline in an honest way if I can't start with truth, right? So starting with truth is this. If you want to know if you're unsure about the thing that you're doing right now that you make money off of, if you're unsure if you're passionate about it or not, or if you don't know what your passion is, right? I do this with my client. I was like, you already rich. You got all the money in the world. You the richest motherfucker has ever walked your family's life, your generation, your bloodline. Would you still do this thing? And this thing can be anything. If you eliminate money as an issue, would you still do this thing that you're doing right now, rather that's creating art, doing music, you know, managing artists, whatever the case may be. You know what I'm saying? If you answer that question, nah, I wouldn't be doing this shit. If I fucking had 100 million already, I wouldn't be doing this shit. Then you ain't passionate about that shit. I don't give a fuck what it is. I don't give a fuck. Like. Like, period. Like. Like, for me, I help people grow their business. And it just so happens that majority of those people work in entertainment as artists. If I hit a lick for a hundred M's, I ain't listening to your fucking song. These new. I'm not listening to no new artist song. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna listen to a new human tell me about the business that they're trying to build. You see what I'm saying? Like, I'm not passionate about fucking hearing your new songs. I'm passionate about hearing a artists come to me with a plan of action on how they want to build a business and they want to use music as a product. I could give a fuck about a new song and how hot it is. You give me 100 M's. If I hit a lick for 100 M's, I'm still gonna help black men and women that I run into that I see that's passionate about building a business around music. Will I be fucking trying to convince fucking editor at Spotify to playlist this music? Fuck no, I'm not passionate about fucking pitching music to people. I like it. That's all I give a fuck about. I like it. So no, I'm not passionate about pitching music and listening to new artist music. Fuck no. Give me 100m's I ain't doing that shit no more. Niggas won't even be able to get me on the phone unless they are talking about building a business. That's what the fuck I'm passionate about. I'll do that shit for free. I'll talk to anybody about it at any time of the night, anywhere, anyhow. I don't give a fuck what I'm doing. I probably would end up getting divorced if my wife don't understand the nigga that she's marrying has a deep passion for building businesses and people. And I have a soft spot for anybody that's building a business that's trying to figure that shit out. I will fuck around and be at my fucking anniversary dinner and a motherfucker say some shit that, that, that, that, that's like music. That's business starting related. I'm a fuck up tonight, you know what I'm saying? So if you on this shit and you listening to fuck you money and you looking at your life and if a nigga give you, if you hit a lick for 100m's and you will completely quit every single thing that you doing today. You ain't found your passion yet.

I hear that. I feel like we all want to hit for 100 M's. You know, who doesn't want 100 M's? But again, I think it's more important to know what you're passionate about with or without money.

Yeah.

Because it's just money.

It's just.

I don't know, you need to ruin your anniversary cause you passionate, bro. I don't know if I agree with.

That, but I'm just saying that's just passion. And any.

I'm just fucking with you.

Any person that's in love with a person that has found they passion, just understand that if you love that person, they got a passion. That shit is uncontrollable, bro. When you get it and when you find it. That shit is uncontrollable, bro. Because it's a rare find during this human experience.

I know, I know what you mean. But to your point, I remember when you introduced me to LaRussell back in. It was 2020. 2021. Early.

Early.

And you were super excited about how the Russell wanted to make sure that his Fans got rich with him and I've never seen that before. We got about five minutes left. You got any final thoughts?

Oh man. It is important to be conscious about being uncomfortable. It is a very, very important process and journey in life through growth. I think that working on these exercises about identifying what you're passionate about and when you do realize, fuck, I thought I fucking was passionate about this shit, but you right, if I was rich, I wouldn't be doing this. That is a great moment to be in because now you can start that search, you can start that search of like what is it that makes you glow when you think about pursuing or you think about doing it and working towards that in a strategic way. And you would want to find that anytime. No matter if you 56 or if you 16, you would want to just find that. Because living one year, one month or three months or 30 days in love because you found your passion here on earth, it is worth every single moment, you know. So it doesn't matter how old you are, when that passion hits you, please pursue it and, and, and, and and be safe while pursuing it. Be financially responsible while pursuing it and don't be reckless and start flipping over tables and at your boss office because you don't find your passion. I am not saying that shit, you know what I'm saying? But it is important and no matter when you find it, it's a high that you're never gonna forget. You know what I'm saying? So everybody push towards that shit. You know, finding the passion is definitely a step towards that. Fuck you money. And remember, money is not real. Humans is the real currency. And all we're doing on this show twice a month is talking through different ideologies, methods, all personal experiences that we've heard or we've experienced ourselves that can help individuals think about life differently. We probably ain't the ones that's going to find the answer for you. But we're hoping that these dialogues can start making you think more, write more, read more and starting to see things that you probably would have never saw before hearing a certain conversation, you know what I mean? So we hope that that is where Fuck youk Money is for you all. Cause that's what it is for me. You know. And yo can speak on his aspect of it.

I mean it's the same. I think these conversations are very healthy because you need to have these conversations, these dialogues if you're trying to drive new thoughts, a new way of thinking or inspire people to pursue to their live passion. I don't think a life where there's a lack of passion is one that's fulfilling. And if we're not here to fulfill our lives, what are we doing?

That's a wrap. Thank you for listening to Fuck you, Money. Speak to you next week.