A PIVOT Journey with Sonya Nagy: Pure Communications Mastery

Welcome to the Conscious Pivot Podcast with international speaker, business mentor, best selling author of Pivot, and your host, Adam Markell. The Conscious Pivot shares the stories and wisdom of people who have successfully reinvented some area of their business and personal life. You'll gain powerful insights into how you can fully embrace new opportunities, increase your performance, and master the art and science of innovation and resilience. So please join Adam as he guides you on your Conscious Pivot.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Pivot Podcast. I am thrilled, ecstatic, really feeling so good today to be with you. Wherever I am meeting you, wherever you are right now, whether you are working out, you are on the computer, you are driving. However it is that you are consuming this podcast today, I want to express my gratitude to you and for us all at the very outset to reset, to hit the reset button. We have this opportunity, seemingly not seemingly, I want to scratch that out. We have this opportunity all the time, every moment of every day, to push that reset button. And all it takes is a breath. I'm not saying it's easy, but it is simple. And simple is something really powerful when you can have simple spiritual solutions to things, it is super powerful. And so today, I'm going to get to introduce you to somebody and spend some time with a dear friend, with a colleague, with somebody I absolutely adore, I respect, I love, and she's a lady that has simple spiritual solutions to share. So that's so cool. And we're going to start ourselves off with a breath, with a deep breath. So this is the beautiful thing. Even if you're driving or operating some other heavy machinery, we can all take a deep, conscious breath, keep our eyes open, keep your eyes closed, whatever you like, but breathe into the energy of gratitude as you take this breath, as I take and receive this breath, this gift of a breath, we can acknowledge the fact that there are people who are receiving their last breath, taking their last breath. And so what we're doing in this moment is sacred, it's special, it's holy, it's important, and we get to do it together. And I don't think there's anything that I'm more enthusiastic about. I don't think there's anything that brings me greater joy on a daily basis than the ability to connect and to know and realize and appreciate the truth, which is that we all are connected to each other. And so we're connecting right now through this vibration, through your listening and my speaking, and through our breathing together. And that is so flipping Beautiful. So, without much ado and no further time lapse, I want to introduce to you a dear, dear friend. As I said, she has this capacity to create simple spiritual solutions to things. She is a healer, she is a leader. She is a vibrant and somebody that I call friend and somebody I love. And you are going to love her as well. But whether you do or you don't, it's of no concern of mine. I want to introduce you to Sonia Nagy. Sonia, it's so good to have you on the podcast today. Thank you for being with us.

Thank you, Adam. It's a pleasure to be here. I feel honored.

Way cool. I am. I'm the one who is honored. You are one of those amazing people that it has been since the day I've. I've first met you several years ago, you've been inventing and reinventing your life. And this reinvention process is. It's exciting, it's fun, it's exhausting at times. It feels. It can be debilitating. It's a joy and all of that. And we call it the pivot. So you are a member of this pivot community, and you've been reinventing and creating things for a while now. So what I would love for you to share a little bit, first of all, before we get into what your reinvention has looked like and what the process has been for you, the pivot process, and how that's taken shape and where you've had some success and where you've had challenge and how you're doing now. Before we get into all that, share with us a little bit more about yourself, if you would, and what it is that you're passionate about. You know, what's. What's got you passionate today. What's that look like?

Yeah. So have had a full life. I have been blessed to have learned about spiritual connection very early in my life through intuition and going very real into life. Marrying a police officer, having four children, rental properties, businesses, successful serial entrepreneur, and, you know, always looking for the deeper meaning of life and to have more value in every moment and to be very real with people has driven me into where I'm at now and even into my most recent pivot that I come through to come connect with you on. Yeah.

Way cool. Way cool. So why don't we dive right into it then? What has it been like for you being in the pivot process? So we're talking about the process that you became a part of, which is based on the book Pivot, and we've been speaking with some folks recently about that process and how it has met them, where they were, whether that was in a state where they needed a little bit more clarity because they were already into something but wanted to figure out how to get it, get it to a better, you know, to a better place, to a higher level, whatever the way to describe it was or where. We've met some people when they were just getting started, when things weren't entirely clear and they were really looking for that clarity. Where did the process meet you? Where were you at when you began?

So I was having a healing practice. I actually had two offices in South Florida and I went through divorce, went through a major life pivot, lots of transition happening. And that brought me into a move of my home to Orlando, Florida. And when I moved, I knew that I no longer wanted to be doing the one on one, that it was time for me to be working with groups. My skills as a healer had fine tuned and grown and, you know, a level of mastery that it wasn't right or no longer right for me to share. One on one only. Not that I don't do that still, I still love that and do that. But the group, if I can work with a mass, that's how we change the planet. And you know, why do I do what I do? Because love it for one. But there's also the peace and the growth and the freedom that people have through the experience of working with me. And spirit was telling me that it was time to go to a group and I wasn't really sure how to transition that. So that landed me into the pivot with you.

Beautiful. Beautiful. So if I'm understanding correctly, you were doing more one on one work and that was fulfilling. And yet there was still something that was calling to you from inside, that there was more and that you could help more people.

Yes.

The gist of it, right?

Absolutely.

Yeah. So what was the hardest part about getting started? Let's, you know, sort of reverse time back to the beginning when we were. When you were beginning that conscious pivot process. And what was the hardest thing when you were getting started?

Finding the right. Finding the right group, the right mentors, the right. Yeah. Finding that those right fit, the right coaches, the right mentorship, and now even down to the right products to be offering. So. Yeah. And I have to say I am so, so grateful that I've connected with you. I hope it's okay if I give you a little plug here, but is that okay? Yes. It's your podcast.

I am a gracious receiver of your love. So however that shows up is just wonderful.

Okay, so I'm gonna be very real with my comment here. I had spent. Have spent over $90,000 specifically to be a speaker to. To take this to a group, and the emotion is coming here. So just a moment. That $90,000 hasn't yielded me what my first $1500 has yielded me with you, and I can't jump into the next step fast enough with you because I. I now know that I have the right mentor. I now know that I have the right fit, I have the right leader that can be guiding me in this process of going to the masses, because I know the message that I'm bringing, even though I don't know the details into that, still refining that on my pivot, I know that I'm with the right mentor to bring me into that awareness. So thank you.

Oh, my goodness. You're so welcome. And it's so important that we. That we do find during our lives the right people to be around, to surround ourselves with, and to be mentored by. I've been really fortunate. I don't. I don't typically have the opportunity to share this that frequently, but I've been mentored since the time I was 17 years old. And the first real job that I ever had was working at a summer camp. And I was teaching swimming and this beautiful camp and this lake. And I actually started out teaching tennis, which is funny enough, but then I got more attracted to the culture and the community that was developed at the waterfront. And I do mean a community and a culture was like a group of people that were coming from all over the world, usually on some form of an exchange program, and they were working down at the waterfront, teaching swimming to kids that were anywhere between 5 years old and, I think about up to 14 or 15. And every time I would go down to the waterfront because I love to swim, and I'm a Pisces, so I have to be in the water. And every time I was down there on my breaks or at the end of the day kind of thing, I would see all this laughing going on and all this. Just this beautiful energy that was happening. As a result, as I later found out of great leadership, there was this incredible leader, this gentleman by the name of Dave Kriviloff, who I really very rarely even say his name because I just. Just thinking of it now, that don't typically. This. This doesn't typically come up, which is so wonderful because I get to send this loving vibration of energy out and this gratitude to Dave Kriviloff. This man really changed my life at a very early point. He was a great. Just a great leader, and he allowed a tremendous amount of space for people to both show up in their own unique way as leaders while being part of a structure that didn't allow them to make too many mistakes, if you know what I mean. When there's a structure, when there's someone that knows the lay of the land, while they'll allow you to sort of walk off the path. Because I think that's really important, that we can have the freedom, because that's one of my core drivers for me is freedom, and I think that's a core driver for most of us. So we have to be able to explore and yet not wander so far off the path that we can't find our way back, or that the person that knows the way has been on the path and seen the way doesn't allow you to explore so far off that it would take you 10 years to get back or would somehow create more challenge in your life than is necessary. So this gentleman, Dave, he, I think, really embodies that for me. He modeled it for me as a mentor, what it's like to create a structure and then allow people to have the freedom to deviate from the structure so that they can have their own experience and learn their own lessons and yet still know that there's something. Something and someone that's there to gently, or maybe even so not so gently at times, guide them back onto a. Onto a path. And so I'm really grateful to you for. For that wonderful compliment. And I'm also expressing my gratitude now to my very first. The first mentor that I can remember, and I've had several in my life, which has been amazing. So, yeah, it's not always easy at the start of any new process. So when you began, when we started the process of the program, when we were online and doing our weekly sessions and you had a partner, you had an accountability partner, and we were working through the content and all that. Was there something that was difficult at the beginning? Do you recall what was the most challenging part at the start?

Well, the start of it started with our beliefs. And I work. That's my genre. I help a lot of people through that. So initially I had to put myself aside and say, you know what? Even though you're an expert in this, doesn't mean you can't learn something. So initially it felt like a slow start because it was starting in an area that I'm Already an expert in. So initially it was that and it was interesting because I saw others that also were experts kind of disengage at that point. And I thought, boy, what a lost opportunity. Because I chose to stay in the game and stay. Stay in this. And I actually found some more there for me to work on. So it was beautiful.

Yeah. That's such an interesting observation, Sonia, because, I mean, in myself, I'll just say when I track in me the. I know that and I frequently. When I see the I know that there's some telltale signs, and often it would involve me talking over someone or interrupting and not listening fully to what they have to say, because I'm thinking, I already know how they're going to finish that sentence. I know where they're going. So I'm going to save them the trouble and hand them off with the pass and stop, you know, right there and interject. That's an. It's a really interesting observation. How it is that in our lives, often we. We will kind of shut down, close down our ability to learn something new, even if it's a small distinction, because we think, hey, yeah, already know that. Right?

Definitely.

Way cool. At a certain point during the process, did you feel as though you'd gotten to a maybe. We call it tipping point. I love Malcolm Gladwell's book, the Tipping Point.

Yes.

Do you feel as though you got to a tipping point?

Yeah, definitely. When we got to. I want to say it was lesson number. I'll tell you.

Oh, my goodness.

The big vision. This one right here. Lesson number four. So I guess it was halfway through our program, I got to create the five bold steps in the action planning kickstart. And that was a really fun and beautiful experience for me because part of the creating of that is I used my wins of the past because I've already done some group work. So I used those pictures and those wins to support me in going forward. And it was really interesting. My partner share on that. Came to the partnership with having done none of the work yet, and I said, you know what? That's totally okay. And we're gonna get it done where we happen to be close enough on the same path that I said, we're just gonna share this. I'm gonna show you what I've done, and we're gonna plug it away and we're gonna get it done. So I think the call on the partner chair might have been a little bit longer than the others, but it was worth it because I got to see his grand and that's something that I absolutely love. So even though it wasn't in my program, it was in your program. It was so beautiful because I got to see that growth. So that was definitely, I would say, my tipping point.

Beautiful. How did that feel, by the way?

You know, I was surprised that it was actually as easy as it was now. The next step became a little bit more of a challenge when we got into breaking down the bold steps, into the baby steps, and. Yeah, but we also, you know, my partner, we talked about how we could go forward supporting each other on that. And, you know, one of the things that I want to say about the program is the community that was created through the program. Such a beautiful community and so supportive. And even now that the program is over, we're still in connection. We're still supporting each other and growing together. And, you know, what a wonderful world it would be if we could all stay connected and grow together.

Indeed. Yeah. That's the thing that caught us a little by surprise. We knew the community would be important, and we wanted it to be there. But we were also, I guess, a little jaded, I suppose, because a lot of the communities that we've seen previously through work we'd done before with other organizations, organizations that the communities didn't necessarily stay together. There was kind of a rush and, you know, a feeling of this camaraderie and family while it was going on, but not so much afterward. And what's been really beautiful is to see how that community has continued to support each other and comes together. And I think it's just one of those things, like you say, in a perfect. In an even more perfect world, we'd feel that support in that community, even at an even greater level than we currently do. So that's pretty special.

I want to comment on that. I want to give you a little perk, because I think it's leadership. Again, thank you for being the leader, because you set the stage. And I can tell you I've done a lot of webinars like the Pivot program and been on plenty of them. This is not my first rodeo in that arena, and the way that the template, if you will, that you ran the program on is far superior to any of the others that I've been on. And it was you who helped us to create the community. And, yes, we had to take the ball from there and roll with it and continue to grow it. But I want to bring it back to you. You're the one that kind of showed us the way. So thank you Your template.

The context is super important in so many ways. I'm not sure if you can even put your finger on it, but do you think there's any one thing in particular about the template, as you described it, that helped to create that?

I suppose there was a continuity. It was consistent every week. It was pretty much the same format that we would go through. So we knew how to. What to expect and how to engage in that. And then we always had the check in. And I really think the happy hour that was the additional bonus to the class was another opportunity to engage again and get some more and connect some more outside of the class form, outside of the accountability, structured partnership thing, but just in a more of a supportive way, more of a fun, collaborative play sort of way. So I think all of the elements that you put into it really had great value into creating that community.

Yeah. Thank you. It was a team. I mean, our team's been working on it and thinking, you know, here's. And we never know, right? That's the thing. For folks that are watching this on YouTube or listening to this, whatever it is you're creating, we never know. Nobody ever does. He's. You look at something that's been successful and you think, well, they got it right. They figured it. You know, like, they figured it out. And I would love to just jump to that place where it's been figured out. It's right. People love it. It's hit a tipping point, all those great things. And yet it's that old expression that, you know, somebody who's successful or something that's successful didn't have. Didn't happen overnight, was 10 years in the making, you know, an overnight success. Except it took 10 years to get to the overnight success. And it is a process of figuring out what does work and then also knowing. Being willing to explore and learn from what doesn't work. You know, in our feedback, something that we do at the heart of enrollment, we really drill down on that feedback loop of what worked for me and what didn't work for me. What's the creative opportunity that we see to do it differently. And that's. That's our lives. I mean, if we could simply take the emotion, the emotional charge. I don't never want to take the emotion out of anything, because this is. This is what I think makes us. This is the human driver, right?

This is.

This is the thing that animates us, and it makes us sentient beings that we can feel. But to take the emotional charge out of what's not working in our lives so that we can deviate from the. From the. You know, from the. The thing that. I mean, it's been called so many things, a box, you know, the box that we live in, or the.

I don't know, the word defragmentation comes in. I'm not even a computer person, but I know that means a mess in my language. Maybe it's taking the mess out of life. Right. To be able to neutralize those emotions. That's a lot of what I do in my work, is to flatline those negativities so that they don't have to keep us out of the game and open up into our greater possibilities.

Well, you and I talked about this before, just before we got on the podcast. It's just a little bit of our pre. Frame. I was talking, mentioning this book, which is still open, always sits on my shelf in the back, and I still listen to it as well, which is the Presence Process, this amazing, beautiful book by Michael Brown from South Africa. And this is a journey into. I never really remember knowing. Now that I want to remember to state the subtitle, because it's the Presence Process, A Journey into Present Moment Awareness. And the journey into Present Moment Awareness is about integrating the emotional charge, the emotional imprints that we received, both in utero and then during those first seven years of being. Being on the planet. And it's so incredible, the opportunity that we get out of that, that integration, so that when we take the charge, or neutralize, as you say, neutralize the charge, we have an opportunity to be present with what is here now in this. And then access to so much more is available to us, whether it's spiritually or in some other realm of whatever it is you believe there's this infinite space. Bottomless. Yeah. This just.

A.

Well.

Yeah. There's really no way to describe that.

Right, right.

It's infinite, available.

But when we're stuck in the past, when we're continuing to revisit the traumas through things that don't look like the trauma necessarily, but we still revisit those traumas from childhood through a variety, a myriad of activities and things that show up for us in our lives, and we continue to revisit them, it's very difficult to move further, to move further down the path, because that's just.

It's absolutely.

It's very. It's heavy. Right.

So it takes you out. Most people.

What did you know during the process that you've been describing, the pivot process? What did you notice? Did you begin to notice anything about yourself while it was going on?

Well, I came into to the pivot to do. Like I said, I was coming out of this major life transition and I came in with a very business agenda. And yeah, it became a personal. You know, you can only do business so long and then you have to face yourself. Right. So I think it's about. Oh, was it number six when we were talking about resilience that. Yeah, that one went deep in the personal arena there because, you know, our business is us and if we don't have the resilience to make it through our own transitions, our own traumas and dramas, then we're not going to be able to show up to business. So that was, that was a kind of a surprising experience for me. I didn't expect that one didn't particularly like it, but I stayed with it and came through it and the community support was absolutely beautiful. That was the one where your daughter was getting engaged or he had got engaged at that same weekend. So it was very interesting for me to be connected into the community and share such beautiful things as daughter getting engaged. And it was also at the Thanksgiving holiday and you know, when we're all celebrating gratitude and here I went into this darkest moment and my partner was so gracious to hold the space for me to have it. And you know, she happened to be working on a life coaching business so it was a perfect for her to have that experience of me kind of breaking down for her. So it was just, it was amazing to kind of have that very full spectrum experience. That was totally unexpected.

Yeah, the resilience piece is so important in so many of these things. We have to learn how it is that we apply. We apply the lessons that we're learning and the messages that are being delivered to us so divinely. Almost always at the perfect time, we don't necessarily want them. And more often than not we're willing to shoo the message away or shoot. Shoot the messenger, as you know, at times. And yet they are so perfectly timed and delivered if we're paying attention and if we're willing to learn certain lessons and then be willing to move forward with courage. And resilience is important for so many things in business. So it's. Even though it is a personal, we feel it personally, it's also something that's so required in business because more businesses fail than succeed. In fact, it's like 95 to 5 in the first five years. Failure rate versus success. And so much of that has to do with the ability to Be resilient because it takes time to figure it out. It takes time and money and to invest in the process to figure it out. It's the research and development that most people aren't really equipped to deal with, meaning they don't know at the outset. It's going to take so much research and development, the time and the money and the tenacity to be able to figure out the recipe, the thing that's going to work, that will stick, that people will love. Most people quit long before they get to that point where they've run out of money right before they get to that point. So resilience is so key. I want to ask you too. What results did you start producing in your business or in your personal and. Or in your personal life as the program was happening or after it concluded?

So revenues came and that was part of. I don't remember exactly where it was. I think that was lesson number five when we were going into the baby steps and. And the branching out exercise that we did. And now as soon as I started to see more clarity into those details, immediately the doors started to open and money started to flow.

It's interesting when we clear space for things. I forget where I first heard this, but there's a thing that happens automatically in the universe when there's space, because it will the vacuum allow a vacuum to exist. Right. It automatically rushes to fill it.

Yeah.

It's one of those unique things that, because it's a universal law, it would make sense. So if we were really in our conscience, common sense place. And I think Nietzsche said that common sense is not common. So no surprise focus there. But if we were in our. In our right minds, we would say that's a universal principle, it's a law. Wouldn't we want to leverage that and use it to our advantage?

Right.

We live lives that are so cluttered in so many ways. We don't have space. We don't have headspace, we don't have space on our computer. We don't have space in our closets. We don't have space in our bedroom garage. We lead these cluttered lives and we wonder why it is that the things, the new things aren't, aren't there, or it seems like there's a struggle to create some. Something new and something that's more evolved. You know, we can use the word better or bigger or whatever, but it's just a more evolved expression.

Yeah.

And that. Do you believe that's true, that it requires space?

Oh, absolutely. And that's an Interesting. We could say side effect of the course too that like the urge is to clean house, like declutter that actually has. Is in my space because I've kind of brought everything out and scattered it around a bit in the growth of it and now it's like clean house and get rid of all the stuff that I collected that I didn't even necessarily know I was collecting it and didn't necessarily organize it is all looking to be like organized and flushed through. You know, if it's not serving my purpose for where I am now, where I'm going, it doesn't need to be in my space because it's, it's blocking the way, the feel way.

Cool. Yeah. What was there? If there was something in the quirk, it helped you to stay committed and accountable to the outcomes you were looking for. What was that?

I think it was the community, to be honest with you. I think it was the accountability and you know, my own personal values of integrity that said, you know, when you start something, you finish it and. Yeah, and just knowing that there was the support and the accountability, you know, so it's kind of like both ends of it. One was picking me up and the other was kind of pulling me along. I think that was. That was it.

Do you need that? Is that important, you think? Is that something?

I don't necessarily need it, but I really like it and it's, it's something that I haven't actually had a lot of in my life. So to have. It has been a learn for me to have the support. You know, I've been a very independent, done a lot of things, very headstrong, especially when I was younger. I've learned to. And I'm learning how to ask. That's still something I'm working on. But yeah, I love the support and I love just having that accountability. It just, it's like that little nudge. It's not a huge thing for me, but it is a nudge.

Yeah, that's. I know I need it. I mean, I shouldn't say I need it because need is a scarcity word.

You like it a lot.

I do, I love it. I love to have gentle. The gentle accountability element. I mean, so just in the last couple of weeks decided I want to focus more on my health. So back in the gym two hours earlier in the day. So starting the day in the five, in the five o' clock range. I like my sleep too. But now I meet my future son in law there and we're on the elliptical machine before 6am and that's so knowing he's there, knowing that he's getting out of bed makes me want to get out of bed, not just for myself, but because I'm supporting him and he's supporting me. So it's, it's important in that sort of relationship with other people, right?

Yeah, absolutely. And that, that piece of it, I really do love that it's that connectivity. And it was really, really brilliant to have different partners each week and to connect around the world with, with different personalities and, you know, how are we going to blend together? Are we going to connect? You know, are we going to be able to manage this task that's set out in front of us? Do we really know? And you know, that whole, that whole experience was very fun going through each week because we didn't pick our partners. Our partners were picked for us, which was kind of a cool thing. We didn't, you know, it was kind of like, roll the dice, who are we going to have this week? And it was brilliant. We didn't, unfortunately, we, we didn't get to have connection with all of them like that. But, you know, the system would have to have gone on for a year program, I think, for us to connect.

And what time zone?

Yes, and what time zone? That's right. That's right.

People from Australia that are, that are involved. It's pretty wild. Well, who do you think this program's for, Sonia?

This program really fits anywhere. Like, I really believe that I'm going to be going through it again and, and addressing personal pivots. So it's business pivots. It's definitely personal pivots. It's going to be a whole different experience going through with that focus and knowing that you're going to, for me, it's going to be like facing the big stuff and doing it in a space of accountability and support and having that community, community behind me. To be honest with you, I couldn't have come here initially first with such intimacy within, you know, and I do a lot of self work, obviously simple spiritual solutions says a lot about. I do a lot of my own work. So to actually come into the community and trust the process it and say, you know what? This is, this is the next step for me. It's so. Yeah. So who is this for? It's for business people who are looking and also for the people who don't know. They just know that life's not working and they know they want something different. It will even help that initial burst of clarity because that's where we started was initially getting that clarity. And even, you know, we had several people in the class that were like that. And through the process, they were starting to refine and clarify and grow. And it was really beautiful. I don't know, because I haven't connected back into each one of them to know where they at now. But I really felt like as we were going, they were definitely having their growth. I know I was watching the community from that perspective of the healer and seeing people unfold, that it was definitely happening. So, you know, it's really for pretty much anyone.

So what would you say to somebody who's thinking about getting, getting started in the pivot process? And we all know, right, because there's such a huge proliferation of programs, courses, workshops, things like that. It's a pretty loud and crowded space at times, or it feels like to me some more often. And the. The tendency, I think, for people is to think it's just another. It's just another program. And by the way, if I do get involved, I probably won't complete it or I won't have the time or I don't have the, you know, the, you know, my tendency is to buy these things and leave them on the shelf. The shelf help. The shelfware, you want to call it. But there is that. That's the part of the problem, I think, for a lot of folks. So would you say to somebody who is thinking about getting started but isn't sure?

So again, I'm going to say what I said a little earlier. I've done a lot of programs, and this one is far superior in its format. And because of that, it does keep you engaged. And, you know, right from the start, I'd say by the second or third class in, we were a strong, unique unit as a class, as a team, you could say. And you don't get that with the other programs. You don't. And the price point is so reasonable for the outcome and the community, the connections, the leadership, mentorship that's offered. It's superior to everything else I've seen on the market. And I couldn't say that if that wasn't an absolute truth. It wouldn't resonate with me. I wouldn't go there.

How are you today?

Oh, I'm on top of the world. I am growing so fast now as a result of the pivot and what I've done there and other stuff too. I don't want to discount the other support that I have outside of the pivot community, but collectively, I am just. I'm growing as fast as I can keep up with me. And thank God I have a therapist that lives with me, too. So I'm continuing my therapy to keep my growth at its maximum level. So, yeah, I'm doing amazing. Thank you.

Wonderful. Well, I will say as I look you in the eye, I love you. You are amazing. You've been such a wonderful addition to the community that we have, and I welcome, as you do, that that community continues to grow. I set the intention that the community continues to grow in its diversity. We have people all over the world that are a part of it, which is so wonderful. People are tuning in and checking out what's going on and being part and contributing things from wherever they are and in whatever ways make sense for them. And primarily that's been through Facebook. So one of the things I want to remind folks of is if you're interested in the pivot process, you can obviously let us know. That's great. In fact, you can go to. This program is called the Pivot Incubator. So if you're curious about that, you can go to pivot incubator.com and pivot incubator.com join. You can watch videos and see things and, you know, make a good decision, an informed decision. And if you'd like to join the community, we have a. That's a community just for the folks that are in that program, but we have a wider community as well that's called the StartMyPivot community on Facebook. And you can get there by going to pivotfb.com so pivotfb.com is place where you can answer a few questions. We curate it. Curate the community. That is. So you'll answer those questions, we do a little research on you, and then you'll come and join. And a few rules, not too many rules, but that you contribute, that you're willing to be a great receiver, that you're not there to do, to promote. So it's not just a place where you're finding you want to try to, you know, do a lot of self promotion. We don't allow that. And again, if you're willing to be an active member and receive support and give it as well, it'll be a great place. And I want to end this particular podcast the same way we began in such an important way, which is that we're present with each other. So through the breath, whatever you're doing right now, so healthy. To breathe deeply. Breathe deeply into this moment. Feel how blessed this moment is. We all have challenges. Everybody does. And it's part of the process, something really special about recognizing the patterns and the things that are universal in our experience of living. And it's been that way since the beginning. That's my theory, anyway. So your experience of living isn't that different than. Than a person's experience of living even 100 or 200 or 500 years ago. And it's in recognizing those patterns and recognizing the process and the universal truths that exist all, all around us that enable us to be fully here now, in this together, that's the best part, is that we're together in this. So through that breath, through our breath right now, we are one. And that is so amazing. And I'm going to pick up my magic wand, as I get to do, because this is the fun part about being in front of the microphone, right? I will pick up my magic wand and declare that we all get to wake up tomorrow, and we get to wake up a little bit more tomorrow than we are today, waking up our consciousness and waking up our spiritual beings and waking up our bodies, all of it. Because as we take that first conscious breath tomorrow morning, as we get to do, because we've said it, we're gonna wake up, we can recognize it and know that there are people in that moment who are taking their very last breath. And so that moment is special. And you can be grateful then, regardless of whether it's, you know, you're riding high in life or whether there's some things that are challenging you in the moment, we can be grateful then. So part one is we wake up. Part two is we're grateful. And if you're willing to declare these words out loud just to see how it resonates for you and what happens potentially, what miracles even take place, when you start to declare this on a daily basis, you can say, I love my life. I love my life. I love my life.

I love my life.

I love my life. What a blessing. Sonia, thank you for being a guest on our show today.

Thank you for having me.

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