Cultivating Life Energy And Practicing Forgiveness: The Art Of Qigong With Chunyi Lin

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Pivot Podcast. I'm your host, Adam Markell and I'm feeling very, very blessed in this moment. Well, for one thing, because I know what's in store for all of you. You don't yet, but I do. Because I have a wonderful, wonderful man, incredible human being that is also going to be a guest on our show today and somebody I've looked forward to having this conversation with, someone I've known for a few years now and, and had the pleasure of spending time with him. And so I wanna save as much of the time for this show to be in conversation with him and for all of you to be able to receive from that conversation some insights. I don't use the word wisdom lightly or with that many people. Honestly, I'm working on creating some wisdom that I can pass on to our kids and to our grandkids someday, and maybe beyond that. This gentleman has great wisdom, I believe, and great experience that he's been sharing with people for more than 25 years. He's an internationally renowned qigong master, multiple best selling author. Chun Yi Lin has been healing, teaching and speaking to individuals, businesses and large audiences to help them unlock their healing power physically, emotionally, spiritually. Through his profound and powerful learning and coaching programs delivered around the world, Chun Yi has reached hundreds of thousands of individuals with life changing positive influences. Chun Yi has dedicated his entire life to growth, change and inspiration. His life mission is a healer in every home and a world without pain and suffering. He is deeply committed to Qigong healing as an unparalleled tool for creating deep, long lasting transformation in people. He has spoken to groups of many thousands and in more than 11 countries around the world. I know Chin Yi from a wonderful organization called the Transformational Leadership Council. We both happen to be able to attend their events couple of times a year sometimes and that's where we met originally. Chinny, thank you so much for being a guest on the show today. Welcome.

Thank you Adam. It is such a great honor to be together with you. Thank you.

I want to ask you as I Ask all of our guests what's, you know, that's a wonderful bio. And you've done so many things for so many people for so many years. What's something that's not written that bio that you would love for people to know about you?

I love people to know. And I am a good cook too, for the family. So holiday season and weekends and even during the daytime, I love to cook. So that is actually best part of my day to relax myself. And also when I put the food in front of my kids and my family and seeing them enjoying my food, that is the best, best Reward for me. 1. And then the other thing is I love to watch a kung fu movie. And that is my another hobby. So. And you know what? Recently there's a movie, it's called the Midway. You know, American movie.

Yes.

I watch it three times in two weeks. So I love this kind movies. And it's just, to me, it's another way to relax my nerve.

Yes. I've had that, this ritual for many years, probably at this point, more. More than 10 years of putting my hands around my food. And I've never actually spoken about this before. So not that this is any revelation, but just something I've never really shared before. But for a long time, I found myself putting my hands around the bowl or the plate and thinking some things in my mind, sometimes saying them out loud. We have more often than not at the beginning of a meal in our family, we have a tradition of saying, of expressing gratitude. We all just go around the table and say one thing that we are grateful for in this moment, which is really, it's wonderful. I have been putting my hands around my food and placing. Putting love energetically, just thinking thoughts of love and putting love into the food and saying something like this. I'm grateful for this food to heal my body and my mind and my heart and my soul. So I've done it because it feels good. I've done it out of. Because it's a part of the beginning of a spiritual practice. Can you tell us what's happening there? Am I really putting love into my food? Am I changing the food in any way, your opinion of that?

Oh, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And so the food is very important in our life and not because it fills up our stomach, you know, because the Qi inside that is very, very important. Chinese ancestors called that Qi. American people call it the energy. And so this is like a big difference in understanding of the information in the food and also the difference between energy and Qi. When you talk about energy you talk about in a material level and about the foods running through your body. The water is a form of energy. The electricity is another form of energy. The air is another form of energy, right? So you absorb the energy and you help yourself with more energy, then you're more energetic. Qi is different. Qi is not only a form of energy, it also has its consciousness. It also has its intelligence. It knows what to do for you. It has a much higher level of vibration inside. So like a foot in front of you. And it has not only you need to help yourself to survive through things, it also has the intelligence from the nature, the Qi, the divine energy insight. When you take in that energy, it resonates in higher level to help you to open your channels and to open the energy blockages and even help you just exactly like what you said, you know, can grow your spirituality, especially when you charge love into it. The energy can store in the food, and together with that energy in the food, it helps you to nurture every cell in your body, which not many people know that. And also, once this tea gets inside your body, it knows exactly what to do for you. And the Chinese medicine doctors and qigong masters, qigong practitioners, all experience this food is not only helping you filling up the stomach, it's also a medicine. It helps you to heal. Eating is healing at the same time. And so that is the unique thing. So that's the other thing is. And I like to, like, you know, put different colors in the. In the cooking, you know, so the five elements, cooking and different elements and putting into it, you know, make it a whole for your whole body. It's not just the nutrition. It's the balance of the entire body.

Yes.

Physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

So I don't want to get too technical, so you can stop me if I am, please. Okay. But I'm. Now, my curiosity is that, to say, are thoughts able to create chi? Because when I sit down in front of that plate and I put my hands out here and I. I just. I think or I say thank you, and I'm feeling love, and I'm wanting to put. I'm imagining this love in the food that is going to nourish my spirit, nourish my body, et cetera. So am I creating chi with my thoughts? How is the Qi created, if that's not too technical a question?

Well, so this is one of the things I talk about in my new book, and it's about qigong. So your mind doesn't create new qi, new energy, but your mind Helps to direct the Qi in your body and around you to get into that direction, to help you, to help you with any purpose. So that is the unique thing about our mind. Once the Qi got directed to that moment, to that direction with a purpose, and then the Qi works for you. For instance, you want the Qi get into your food and to make the food as a healing for you, healing energy is going to get into the food from around, and all the healing energy in the food get activated to help you. So that is the difference between Qi and energy. It works together.

So the Chi is in us already, always. And where our mind can be a very useful tool. Because sometimes, you know, our mind is our worst enemy at times. Right. Many, many people, I think if they could just turn their mind off, they'd be so happy. Just flip the switch, turn it off, leave it alone for a little while, you know. But the mind can be very, very useful, as we know as well.

Oh, yes.

And one of the ways would be to direct or instruct the Qi is that those are right words.

Yeah, that's a perfect word. It instructs the Qi to flow. And also once that happens, you just need to let go. And the Qi inside knows what to do for you. Because of your purpose.

Do you have to be very specific? Chun Yi like to say, you know, my belly is not feeling so good today. So, you know, I would love for you, Chi to help me heal my belly. Do you get that specific?

Yeah, if you can do that, that's even better. So this is again also in my qigong classes, in my qigong meditation, and I'm beginning, when I do guided meditation in my workshops, in my classes, the first things I ask people to do is to tell the universe, tell your body what you want. Without purpose, you can't do anything. So if you say, just help me help you what? Right? And so you need to tell the body. For instance, when people have tumors in the breast or arthritis in the back and migraine headaches, depression, if you can tell your body, tell the universe. I'm going to do this meditation for balancing my channels, my Qi in my brain, so that I can heal my depression completely, or I can heal my breast, lungs completely, or I can heal my arthritis in my knees and my joints and completely. So then you meditate, then you let go with this message. You slowly focus on that moment, how you feel in your body, and then the Qi knows what to do exactly for you. Now, let me tell you a story about myself. A long time ago, when I was in China. As a college professor, I had severe arthritis in my knees because a lot of injuries. I went to the hospital and the doctor said even surgery could not help me that much. I was young at that time. I was in my 20s, late 20s, and I said, well, I'm too young for that. So I decided to go my own way. So I did acupuncture, hip healing, injection, everything I could find on the planet. So nothing could help. Until one day I came to qigong workshop and I practiced the meditation with my masters. And within seven hours and a half, my pain in my knees, 80% gone. And the swollen in my knees completely went away. And after two months of practice, it completely, it completely cured my arthritis in my knees. And so my legs now even have more flexibility than ever. So I'm coming to 63 now, so I can literally put my leg on my shoulder. You know what? At the time when I did the meditation with my master, that's what the master said, so you need to tell the universe what you want. And it then I let go. And so the heat going into my knees, helping me to open up the channels. And I got cured by my qigong practice, something very simple, the movement and meditation. And to my great surprise at the time, I also had suicidal depression. And up to this happened to my knees, completely healed, my suicidal depression completely went away and never returned. Isn't that cool? That was the biggest bonus to me. So that's because of that, you know, I got so deep into qigong study. I really want the world to know about the power of qigong.

Do you think, do you think that the depression left you because part of what you found was a, a maybe a power or you had options? I think, I think many times we feel depressed and I think many people feel depressed from time to time because you feel somewhat hopeless or just under resourced. You know that there's just right. But here you were, you were being resourced in a way that you didn't expect. You're in China. I mean, this is ironic on some level. You're in China, the, the birthplace of qigong. And yet it's the doctors who say surgery and medicine, drugs and painkillers and things and therapy, but, but it's this ancient. Is it considered an art? How would we describe what qigong is for people?

Qi means energy. Gong means the work of this energy.

The work of the energy with the.

Work of qi, the work of the energy. That means through something very simple, you can help yourself to cultivate this Qi within you and around you to help you to balance the energy inside your body. Once the balance comes back, everything can be heal, everything can be helped. And so that is what happening inside. At the time, I didn't quite understand why these simple movements and simple meditation could help people to heal their challenges. No matter. It is a physical challenge of emotional challenge, completely without medication. So up to my over 30 years studies now I found out, because what you do through this simple movement, which you think from Western medicine perspective, or from Western minds perspective, have nothing to do with any of the illnesses. For instance, until you. I have problems in my knees, right? But you know what? I don't do anything to the knees, but just move the hands slowly like this for long, like 20 minutes, half an hour. In a good day, I have lots of hours. I would do it like a nose one hour or so just by moving a movement like that. Simple. Which looked. Had nothing to do with the pain in the knees, in the lower back. But you know what? After you got into the moment and you feel the quietness, the serenity, the peacefulness, boom. The energy rushed down from nowhere to your knees, to my knees and healed it completely. The cartilage completely grew back normal, grew back and the damaged tissues completely back to normal and no pain anymore. And so just before I got, I got over the overwhelming of this healing and then I discovered my suicidal depression went away. So. Wow. And then later on I found out, after a lot of studies, I found out this is because of the intelligence of the body got awakened. Our body was programmed for happiness, for joy, living on this planet with health. So that is the information we already stored even before the creation of our body. So now we, through this simple meditation and movement, go back to that moment, activate that information. I call it the redownload.

So yes, it's like original programming, right?

Yeah, exactly. It is just like, you know, like you have. You restore the settings exactly when you got something wrong with your cell phone, you know, so you mess up, okay, what do you do? And then turn it off, right? Have it in silence for like a five seconds and you turn it on and then you reprogram it again, you know, so this is what happened when you get that moment for yourself. Very quiet, meditate and feel peacefulness and feel the serenity inside you. Boom. You redownload the life blueprint code within you, and then all the channels open and you come out fresh and new. That's happened to me. And I use this philosophy to teach people and thousands of people all over the world get help through my Program.

People with anxiety and depression. Perhaps it is that we forget that there is this natural intelligence within us that has this capacity for regeneration, and we forget that, or worse yet, that through a series of things that happen in our lives, traumas and disappointments and all kinds of things, perhaps we even sometimes adopt a belief that's contrary to that. We believe actually that life isn't intended to provide us with joy and peace and serenity. But actually, people believe at times that life is about pain and suffering.

This is what I discovered when I first came to United States in 1992. That was the first time I came to the United States. I discovered there was kind of a strange idea in this culture. A lot of people believe that you can use money to buy everything. You can use money to buy happiness, to buy joy, to buy relationship, to buy your health, you know, and when I. When I looked around, you know, when I first. First time, when I came to the United States and I look around, the people say, how could people come up with this idea? You know, so actually, like a jewel you cannot buy from anyone, you know, so it is inside you. And the good relationship with the people, it's also within you. You know, if you honor yourself, you love yourself truly, if you are genuine to yourself, that is alone can help you to activate that love within you and yourself naturally will become a love radiator. Any place you go to your whole body, just right away with this great loving energy. And light attracts light, and the people will get attracted to you, right? So. And like a healing, you know, so you feel, you know, just pay a little bit attention to the formation of the body, and then you are able to activate this energy to help you with small challenges like aches and pains and bigger challenges like arthritis and chronic problems and digestive system problems, and bigger problems like cancer and HIV or virus emergency. And you can use this to heal, to balance. This is no kava. So, you know, you just. For instance, let me tell you a story. Quite a while ago, when I went to a farmer's market and I wanted to get some sweet corn and for a picnic party for my friends to come over. And then while I was working in the market, the farmer's market here in Minnesota, and I met a student. A student came and said, oh, hey, Pastor Lin, you are here. I said, yeah, so a great day, you know. Then she asked me a question. How, what movements? And I could help you with the challenge. And I told her that technique. Then there's a lady who was selling sweet coins in that place. And she said, oh, so do you have any tips for muscle cramps in the legs at night? I've been having this for so long so no people could help me. And I even tried to go to doctors and taking medicines. So do you have any tips? I said, oh, yeah. So that's very simple. So I said, in the evening, before you go to bed, you just massage the middle of the palms right here for like one minute and go to another hand, go to massage the same point and then you sleep. So she said, oh, is that simple? I said, yeah, it is just like that simple. Okay, I'm gonna give it a try. So I said, goodbye. You know, the following week I came back and I was walking around and then she saw me. Hey, so then my Chinese friend, you know, I said, yeah, yes. Oh, you're here. Your stuff work. Oh, my God. I massage it just for three minutes. I did it a little bit longer. Time for the whole week, I had no muscle cramps in my legs at all. And I said, oh, okay, look at you. Enjoy. Then she said, you know, what are you doing today? I'm looking for some good sweet coin for my friends. And I'm having another picnic today. It's summertime, sick. Oh, no problem. I will give you two dozens. And I then I said, oh, okay. You know, then she actually gave me a whole bag. There's a three dozen inside. I said, how much? How much I need to pay you? She said, oh, nothing, you know, this is a gift for you. And I looked at her. Can I have two bags? Two of us are so happy.

Oh, Chen Yi. So you've mentioned balance. And something that I've wondered about, is there a difference between balance and harmony? Because. And yang, the symbol of yin and Yang is. I've always been intrigued by that. And for a while now, and I hope I've been saying this right, I've said it's a symbol for harmony and there's difference between harmony and balance. But I'm going to ask you, because I have this opportunity.

I think my understanding, harmony is in a higher level of balance. When I say balance, mainly you balance the yin and Yang, the male energy and the female energy inside your body. Your body gets sick. You know, that's because either too much yin or too much Yang, you know, they are out of balance. So you help them to bring the balance back from the physical perspective. When you say harmony, you not only bring back the Yin Yang, balance in the body, you coordinate with the Qi around you, your family relationship. You create such A dynamic such environment around you, inside you, so that you, Chung Wen, you merge your energy, your qi with the nature, with the environment, and with the universe. That is a much higher vibration. You got it?

Yeah. And to work on being unconditional with ourselves, I'm wondering, you know, like, when you merge onto a highway, you know, there's like a. There's a ramp that takes you on, right? But you can't go on. It be difficult to get on the highway without them, without the ramp, without it being, you know, dangerous. Is that, Is that the on ramp? Do you think, to get into that flow of harmony, that you begin to work more on being unconditional with your own self?

Absolutely. Absolutely. Let me tell you another story of my life. First, in the United States and in China, I never learned how to drive a car. I never owned a car. And the best vehicle I had is a bicycle. I was very good at that. When I came to United States, I got my first car, a little Toyota, and I learned how to drive. And my friend gave me some coaching. Finally I got my license and was happy. And I was driving on the road and slowly and sometimes it's below because of my fear, you know, causing an accident and everything. So I drove a little bit slower than the speed limit. So once in a while I did get a finger from people and gave me the middle finger. And I. I felt so happy. And so people gave me the middle finger. People just so. They're so loving and American people, just so great people.

So kind.

Yes, so kind, you know, so then one day at a party and I share this story with the people that, are you really happy? I said, yes, I am really happy. Are you serious? I said, yes, I'm serious. Do you know what that means? I say, oh, middle finger. I think that's a great thing, you know, so. Because in our body, we have 12 major energy channels in the body and six start or end in the hands, and six start or end in the feet. And the middle finger is the meridian, connects directly to the heart. So people give me the middle finger. I thought people giving me love, right? People said, I love you. So they said, no, that's called dirty finger, you know. So I think, what does that mean? You know, they said, well, then they explained to me what it meant. And then, you know what? After that moment, I'm not that happy anymore.

Change.

Well.

The way you took it is. Is the. Is. Well, it's how you received it more than anything else, right?

Exactly, exactly. You know, but anyway, and so driving in A freeway and in any place. And also not only just drive in the freeway or going into ramps so people cut in front of you, you might feel a little bit agitated. And I'll feel uncertain, safe. And to me, and I always send love to them, I say, well, I know you are in a hurry, you need to go to a place, and I'll just be safe. Bless them, saving, I mean, a very safe trip to their destination. Sometimes we do that too, right? So when we are meeting the deadline, the last minute to get on the car, so we drive fast too, you know, sometimes. So the universe forgives, forgives us. Forgive me and why I can't forgive others, love others, right? So when you put yourself in that way, then harmony comes to you.

Do you have a forgiveness practice that you engage in on a regular basis? Chin Yi, Is that something you do.

Or.

How do you feel about that?

Yes, I think that is very helpful. And actually I got my first best lesson from forgiving forgiveness of my healing time. When I practice my first long meditation to heal my knees. I was sitting on the dirt ground in a soccer field in China, listening to this master talking about qigong and meditation and healing yourself. Then the master said, if you want to heal yourself faster and more completely, you need to forgive those people who hurt you in your lifetime. I said, no way. How can I forgive those people? During Cultural Revolution, when my parents gave everything to help them to survive, and now they call my parents as their devoted friends and the best friends in the town. When cultural evolution came for no reason, they put their best friends, kids, into the mouth of a wolf, and they wanted. They wanted to even kill us. So I could. That really hurt me so deeply, you know? So I held that anger, hatred and fear deep inside me for so long. And so as soon as this master said, you need to forgive these people, I said, no way. Of course, no way. You know, how could that happen? And how could I forgive them? So, you know, they took my parents away and they even put the machine gun on my head, you know, wanted to threat to kill me and my sister. And so boy. And I said, no way. Then the master said, well, if you have a hard time to forgive those people, if you really want to help yourself to heal faster, you know what, you can pretend that you forgive them. That can also get very good benefit too. You can pretend, pretend to forgive. I think I can do that, you know, because it's not real. Right?

Right.

So I just visualize lining them up, all these people on the sky. Then I set at this moment, I just wanted to heal my knees completely. So I pretend at this moment. Listen, guys, I only pretend. I pretend, I forgive you. I forgive you. I pretend, I forgive you. I pretend forgive you. When I repeat that pretending, the words many, many, many thousand times. Then I got tired of repeating that many words, and I just say, I forgive you, I love you, I forgive you. And then come to the point. I just said it in my heart. I'm murmuring that sound, you know what? Up to that good half an hour, chanting, I forgive you, I love you, I forgive you, I love you. The real Qi, the power of the Qi in my lower Dan Tian, which is the energy center in my belly button. It's like a volcano just explode, erupting out and running through my entire body. I went through all this transformation. That moment is the best Aha. Moment in my life. So up to that moment, a few hours later, I mean, I paid myself up. The swollen in my knees completely went away. The pain, 80, 85% gone. And I was a new man. So from this lesson, I really learned the power of forgiveness, the power of love. Actually, forgiveness is the action of unconditional love. So when you take action to love others, you, first of all, you forgive. And actually, when you forgive, the person who needs that forgiveness best the most is yourself. With that story, let go with the dead captive so deep inside your heart. So. And yes, I have that exercise anytime. When I got met with something in my previous years of qigong practice, I brought my memory back to that moment on the sake field doing the meditation with my master. Yes, thousands of people. So then I remember. Forgiveness is power.

We forget even though it makes sense and we've heard it before. I mean, many people have heard this many times before, but yet we. We forget. Chen Yi, maybe. Maybe you can answer this or not, I don't know, but it's. It. Do you think it's harder for people to forgive themselves or to forgive others? Do you have a. What's. What do you. What do you. What do you believe?

Yes, I think it is. It is a belief. If you believe it is hard for you to forgive, forgive yourself. If you believe it's hard to forgive others, you are going to find so many reasons that you cannot believe yourself, you cannot forgive yourself, you cannot forgive others. You know what? Many people forget about this part, exactly like what you said, they forget. You can change your position. If you can forget about forgive others and you can forgive yourself, you can forgive yourself, you can forgive others, number one. Number two is why not Right. You know, and so the universe creates. I mean, the creators create us, create the unit, create everything already giving us this power for creating. And you can choose anything to experience. You can choose to forgive others. You can choose to forgive yourself. You know what? By forgiving yourself, you're going to have more energy to do more good deeds for others. If you think that you make a mistake, you cannot forgive yourself. And you already create a negative karma in your life. Buddha, Lao Tzu, Jesus, they all said the same thing, you know, I consider them as my masters. By doing good deeds, you can help to create positive commerce. And by asking the universe to forgive you and you stop doing what you did in the past, that alone can help you to clear all the negative credit you had in the past so that you can move on with a better life. And all these masters in the past.

That you can move on from anything, any adversity, any mistake, that you still have the capacity to, like you say, reboot the computer or, you know, return to the. To the first settings.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. Turn it off, turn it off. Turn it back on. You can always start your life a fresh new.

I think this a great analogy. I'm always looking for new analogies to describe this word resilience that is so important in our world now and has always been. But I think with the world that we're living in, which is so much more sophisticated and more people, of course, but more interconnections between people, it's much more of a global world, global economy, global connection, interconnectedness, and the disruption through so many things. Like, we're dealing with the Coronavirus now, and there's political unrest and there's just many, many areas where there's great disruption, where I feel that this ability that you're describing to be able to reboot, return to the factory settings, you know, to return to the original programming, is very much a way to look at what resilience is about and what resilient people do. And you might say, well, this is what some people do naturally and other people don't. Well, that's fine, and I would agree with that, except that resilience, or the things we're talking about can be learned. That's why you teach them. You've committed many, many decades of your life to teaching them to other people. Yeah, absolutely. So can you. Can you. I know, I know. If I'm. If I'm putting myself in the shoes of folks that are listening to this, we just want. Everybody wants to hear more from you. So, of course, in. In the show notes, you'll find out more about Chin Yi, Master Li's workshops and the work he does in the world. And you can visit website, you can find out about his meditations and all these things, and hopefully be able to actually be in a position to learn from him soon. While we're here together now, is there something simple practice that you can share? And I say simple only because I think with so much that people are already, you know, taking in, and maybe, maybe something simple is, you know, like the first domino. You know, the first domino, sometimes the hardest, just to tip the first one over. Everything after that's easier. What's that first domino? For people that could adopt some maybe qigong practice to help them to create more balance, even maybe more harmony in their lives, which would then release or free up this, this, the intelligence, the chi, to solve some of their own challenges for them.

Yes, absolutely. So the. The course I developed is called the Five Elements Healing Movement. That is a very beautiful course to help yourself to refine your system. And especially just now, you mentioned about the coronavirus spreading all over the world. People have been asking me the question, how can qigong help? So, first of all, you know you need to strengthen your immune system, right? So when your immune system is strong, then no matter what kind of virus to come to you, the flu and coronavirus and flu of any kind, with the medical help, and then you do this simple movement, you can easily invite this energy to transform. So that's one movement you can do, is you can. So you do this by standing. So you bounce the body by moving your knees. Can I stand, please?

Oh, please, yes. If you could demonstrate. Thank you very much. And those of you that are listening now, you can go onto YouTube and you'll be able to see this. And I'll also just quickly describe what Chinny is doing, because I do this every day as well.

Yes. Okay. All right. So you can focus on your knees and then just move your feet flat on the floor and just move your body up and down like that.

Gentle bouncing from the knees. Yes.

And let go with the shoulders and put a smile on your face when you do so. Always remember that to me, smile means start my internal love engine.

Start my internal love engine Smile. Yes.

So you bounce like this for like a three minutes. And then you have your hands to move up above your head and continue to bounce.

And so now Chini is gently bouncing up and down, but his arms are over his head and you can't see it in the Screen. But his wrists are just like this. So he's not holding his hands up, he's just allowing them.

You have your hands above your head.

Yep. Bouncing up and down. Three minutes.

Yeah. And do this another three minutes.

Smiling.

Yeah. After that, three minutes. And also go back and you bounce it for another three minutes, and then that's it. So then you can rub your hands together and massage your face, and so massage your ears. If you want, you can do some cupping to the arms, Because there's a lot of energy channels in the arms over here connecting to the lungs and to the heart. So that alone will help you to strengthen your immune system tremendously. Do this. Do this, like, two times a day, if you have the time, and that will be fantastic.

Right. We're talking 10 to 15 minutes, perhaps.

Yeah.

Short. It's not long. And you can do it at the office. You can do it. I do it in the morning, usually before or after, you know, I've had a, you know, go to the shower, etcetera, But. And then maybe a second time in the day, you feel that your energy is low or that you're wanting another cup of coffee or some sugar or something like that. Maybe there's another option. Right.

You can do it anytime.

So beautiful. Trini. I feel like this is maybe just part one. We come back and we do part two sometime soon. But I feel incredibly blessed. And on behalf of many, many people around the world, not just the people listening to this, but the people that many people that you've served and that you've shared this with, I want to say thank you on behalf of all of us.

That's my great honor. So I always focus on my top priority. But whatever I'm doing is healing every home in a world without pain and suffering. Yes, I am qigong, and qigong is me.

As we will end this particular podcast, I'll remind myself and remind our listeners, our viewers, of a practice to start the day, which has given me even more juice for this today, listening to you, because. And the practice is to wake up in the morning and put your feet on the floor and to feel gratitude and then to say out loud something that is my declaration is for four words. I love my life. Those are the four words, I love my life. And maybe a year or so ago, I gave a TED Talk about this practice, about this ritual of saying, I love my life at the beginning of the day and what it has done to transform my. My being. And it was interesting because I didn't at the time so fully Consider and acknowledge the fact that this would be such a very, very difficult task, a very big challenge for many people. As you said earlier about forgiveness, that your master gave you a very wonderful distinction, a small change, a tiny little change in the way to do it. The paradigm which was to add the word pretend. I'm gonna pretend I forgive. I'm gonna pretend I forgive. And so today, I want to amend as people who are hearing this for the first time and others who may have heard it many times but. But aren't prepared or not willing, you know, to say, I love, I love my life. Because maybe in their lives right now, there's things you don't love. There's things in my life right now that I could say I don't love. I don't say that, but I could say them. Because we all have challenges. We all get that. But to say I pretend is a very interesting. I want to call it a hack at the moment, you know, like it's a. It's one of these little sneaky things you get in there. You don't even know you're making a change, right?

Because it's.

But it's very effective. I pretend I love my life. I'm willing to pretend for a moment that I love my life. What could change potentially if you.

So after you say you pretend many, many times, and that will become real. You retrain your brain, you train your system, and that's what happened to me. And now I love people. I forgive people. I forgive things naturally. I don't need to pretend anymore, right?

That's beautiful, Chini. Thank you so much. And again, everyone check the show notes to find out more about Chuni and his workshops and ways in which you can. You can just learn. Learn more. We'd love to get your feedback as well. Please leave a comment. You can go to AdamMarkel.com podcast to leave a comment, subscribe and share with other people. Join our Facebook group. Lots of ways that we can continue to connect. And I will just say that I'm sending out my love to all of you and my love to Genevieve. Thank you so much for today and ciao for now.

Thank you. Thank you.

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