How To Bring More Peace, Love, And Harmony With Dr. & Master Zhi Gang Sha

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Pivot podcast. I'm your host, Adam Markell. I am. I'm sitting here in this moment and just breathing in a feeling of peace, feeling of love, feeling of harmony. I know that every day for me is a series of ups and downs. It's like the sea, no? Sometimes the sea is still, sometimes the sea is peaceful, sometimes the sea is raging. And I know for so many of you out there as well, it's quite the same. We've been through so much over more than the last year. So many ups and downs, so many things that create these anxious moments inside of us. It's a cocktail of cortisol, perpetual fight or flight for so many people and in business and in their personal lives. And to find peace, to be able to find an equilibrium, is so important right now. And obviously we look outside of ourselves often for ways to assist us in doing that. But ultimately, the greatest peace that I found has come from within, has come from my ability to sit, to sit, sometimes in stillness and sometimes even with great noise, and find a center. I don't like to use the word balance, but to find a place in the middle place in the center where I feel grounded. I am very, very fortunate to have had many wonderful people in my life, many wonderful mentors in my life, and people that I've gotten to collaborate with and do good work, I think good work in the world. And some people occasionally where that wasn't the case. I have the good fortune today of being able to share some time with an old dear friend, collaborator, mentor, someone who has mentored and guided and really helped. Gosh, to say it out loud, it almost sounds not real. But my daughter Chelsea reminds me when I say the word so real or surreal that it really means so real. Well, this gentleman is somebody who has, in fact, impacted the lives of many, many thousands of people. I'm going to read a little bit about him, say something just more personal after that, and then invite him into the conversation. But this is going to be a show that you'll remember, a show that I think you'll want to refer back to that you'll want to refer to other people that you want to re listen to. Rewatch. Because there will be some subtle and not so subtle clues about how to create greater peace, greater love and greater harmony in your life, which is there's just nothing more rich than that. So if you want riches and you want to be rich, these are the things I think that we have to point ourselves toward. Master Xia Zhigangsha, Doctor and Master Xia is a renowned Dao grandmaster, healer, spiritual teacher and the Author of over 25 books, including 11 New York Times bestsellers. He's traveled the world teaching people ancient wisdom updated from modern times and practical techniques for self healing and overcoming physical, emotional and spiritual challenges. Master Shah is an MD in Western medicine in China, a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine and an acupuncturist. He began studying Tai Chi with a Master at the early age of just six and went on to become a master himself of Tai Chi, of Feng Shui and the I Ching and was a Qigong Master of the year at the 5th Annual Congress of Qigong. Master Shah is also a Grandmaster of Chinese Calligraphy. Created a special new form called Dao calligraphy. This is the art that goes beyond art to create healing. A healing field that helps people overcome illness, depression, anxiety and fear. Fear to live with more inner peace and joy. Just what we're talking about. In his most recent book, Dao Calligraphy Healing Field six Sacred Dao Techniques to empower you to heal and transform your life. He presents valuable wisdom and techniques that includes animations so readers can join Master Shah in a healing process. I also had the good fortune some years ago of writing a wonderful book collaborating with Master Shah. It was called Soul Over Matter. Ancient and modern Wisdom and practical techniques to create unlimited abundance. It is a blessing, to say the least, that we get to reunite and have a conversation as we do today. Dr. Shah, it's great to see you.

Sir Adam, I'm so happy. Thank you so much for your interview. You have done great work. We work together with such joy and happiness. Thank you for today interview.

Yes, joy and happiness. If everybody could work with people in their lives and have partners in life that bring them joy, that the energy of joy is present in the interaction. Man, I don't think there is anything that is sweeter than that. So it is so good to be with you. I would love to talk to you about your new book, but before we do that, I want to ask you a question that is on a lot of people's minds and in their hearts right now. It has to do with how it is that we are able to navigate these times of great uncertainty. I have a new book that's coming out later this year called Change Leveraging the Power of Uncertainty to build Long term Resilience. Because it's been my belief that when we are ourselves able to leverage, utilize and get the most out of the change that is ever present in our world, we are more resilient and we're able to experience more joy, more peace, more harmony and love in our lives. So I want to start by asking you, how do you define resilience for yourself? You've had a. You've had a very busy life. I mean, you've helped a lot of people. So I always remark. In fact, when we. Before we even turned on the recording, I looked at you and I said, somehow or another you look younger than the last time that I saw you. Five, six years ago. So you are resilient for sure. How do you define that?

Okay, thank you, Adam. So I would like to share a universal law Adam in US US law. I mean Canada law. Every country has a law. But in order to answer Adam question, let me share some ancient wisdom. Three words Shen Qi Qi Many people understand this is called Shen Qi Qing universal law. Shen includes three part soul. Soul is spirit. People know this and heart and man Qi C H I Qi means energy. Jing means matter. In modern medicine when you everybody know you see your family doctors. Okay. Blood testing for liver for kidney for pancreas. Then when you have some breast disease you know CT scan Mr. See some cysts, some growth are worried. Biopsy seeds are pathological study There's a cancer than chemo radiation operation. So basically modern medicine. I study modern medicine focus on matter. These are cells, nuclear cells units. So and blood testing is to see the biochemical change of cells. And if this cancer cells are bigger irregular they cut it surgery. So this is a basic modern medicine pills is to change the biochemical changes of the cell. So the traditional Chinese medicine acupuncture, herbs reuga are so many healing modality focus on energy. Even Washington D.C. at the most famous institute the wealthy people donated billions of dollars. Now research energy energy energy. We know that now mind over matter. I and our beloved Adams expert really powerful speaker teacher. Mind over matter means mindfulness. His mind can make things happen. What does it mean for that millions of people are meditating and Adam talk about the stillness. Of course a high condition. You go into the quietness Quietness first then go to stillness, Then stillness has layers. Finally emptiness that's a layer on the high level spiritual journey. So Adam mentioned for that mind over matter is mind can make things happen. Meditation, positive words, ancient words called mantra, healing words, healing sound is all here. Where is the heart? In ancient wisdom, heart house is the mind and soul house this ancient wisdom. Therefore after mind over matter should it be hard over matter. Then the next one is soul over matter. Adam and I both wrote a book. I co read a book called soul over matter. The relationship like this is in quantum physics. Now I wrote a book with quantum and scientists call Dao science. In Dao science we share Shen Qijing universal law or Shen Qijun universal law. In quantum physics called information Information all they call message. So in my insight information energy is soul. They are equal. Millions of people believe here in Buddhism, Taoism, creation, Catholic. Millions of people believe here. Scientists and spirituality use a different term but they are the same thing. Soul, spirit is information, information is soul. But people have not realized soul is the boss. When we talk about body, mind, spirit, you know spirit is a light being. You have to open third eye to say where's my soul? You do not where's my soul? But modern medicine do not even believe soul. Therefore modern medicine never talk about soul. But how many cancer people? Millions. How many people have incurable sickness? Like you know Adam said how many suffering? How many bothers? How can you be peaceful? How can you be loved? Love, peace, harmony. Now we talk about that. I have received divine soul song for that. But what I want to do, I want to share with everybody. The heart is the key. Transform your heart in one sentence. My teaching transform your heart. All life will follow. Your heart must be love, peace, harmony. Because heart hosts mind, soul. You asked my question, I answered you already Mother Earth so many troubles. COVID 19 political relationship, economic finances, all kinds of issues. One sentence transform human's heart that everything follows. Therefore this is my little answer for you.

Thank you Dr. Shah. I want. I want to. I'm curious now. Is there a word in Chinese for resilience? But really understand how it is that.

The person you know these words I have to learn. But can you these words?

Yes. Beautiful.

You allowed me for one second. I'm open. Additionally what's here? Can you spare to me the really how to spell?

Yes, Resilience. R E S. Yes I L I I L I E N C I E N C E Brazil.

R E S okay. Yes L. Yeah. Yes I E okay, hold on a second. I I E okay. Nce N C. I find the words. Okay. Okay. Tan shing Taisheng. Like a spring. Like this. Correct. Did you know like, like you, you know, your summer chair, you sit down there, who they cool down and then you get up, root up. That's crazy. This words you talk about it, right? It's like, like a spring. Like that. Okay. The Chinese words if ask me is Tan shing. Tan tan T A N, Tan xing. It's like a flexibility there, adoption, balance, adjusting. Because when you have too much stress, can you release stress. When you have too much bothers, can you remove the bodies? Therefore, this called this word for me. I'm sorry, I do not know too much, but I know your essence.

Perfect.

Perfect.

So, Dr. Shah, do you watch the Olympics at all? Did you see any of the Olympics?

Yes.

Beautiful. So Simone Biles is a wonderful gymnast for the United States. You know, gold medalist, maybe. To many people, she's the greatest female gymnast of all time. Perhaps.

Yes. Yes.

So just about a week and a half ago at the Olympics, the greatest stage for athletes in the world, she decided that she could not compete. She had to, she had to step back. She had to stop to reset because she was exhausted, mentally, unable to perform at her, at her best. So the stress, as you said, had gotten to her and she was, she needed to take a. A step back, which was a very courageous act because many people were calling her a quitter, you know, that, that she, she, you know, she folded under the pressure. Because so much of Western philosophy and the Western way is to, to grit it out, to move forward no matter what, always, you know, just to go on tirelessly, to not stop, to recharge or to regenerate themselves. Their mind, their body, their heart, their soul. They don't take the time to regenerate because it gets in the way of being productive or doing, you know, the job that you're supposed to do. This is very much a Western way of thinking. It's a cultural thing which leads many people to become so stressed that their bodies, that their bodies fail, that they end up with dis. Ease with illnesses. So I want to get your, your, your take on it. That's why I asked you about resilience. Because Eastern philosophy, Eastern culture is very different. Looks at, Looks at these things differently. So if you're speaking more to a Western audience right now, which most of our community, you know, we have people from all over the world, of course, but most of it is from the Northern hemisphere, Western society. What do you say to people who Are in that constant go, go, go mode. I think it's wonderful that Simone Biles did what she did because she started a conversation about how it is that we can take better care of ourselves. And the interesting thing is that even a week and a half later, after she took a step back, she was able to re enter the competition with one event. And she won a medal a week more than a week later because she took the time to regenerate her qi. To regenerate her mind, her body, her heart, her soul. Yes. So I would like to get your philosophy about this western culture of go, go, go all the time, at all costs. What do we do to help ourselves to break that cycle of stress? Stress. Stress.

Yes. You know, I have just created app in two or three months. One of the animation is stress reduction. We talk about here. How do I do? This is my book called Tao Calligraphy healing field. This is the calligraphy app I want to share with everybody. Very simple. You must understand ancient wisdom. There are five elements. I think Adam know five elements. It's like this. So like many, many people heard about. If not heard about. It's okay. There's wood, it's fire, it's earth. That's a metal element. This is water element. Just now we talk about Shen Qijing universal law. Five elements universal law. What is wood? Wood in the body is liver and gallbladder. What emotions for the liver? Anger. You are upset with something that's going to affect your emotions. Stress. Emotion is the key inside half human being feel it. Then the fire. Fire here is a heart. Fire is a heart and small intestine. The emotional is depression and anxiety. That's called your stress. And also earth element is spleen related and stomach. This one cause people worry. Cause you are worried or cause you stress. So metal element is. Here are metal elements. Lungs COVID 19 large intestine. It causes people grief. Then water element. Here water element is a kidney, urinary bladder. It cause people fear. Fear. So this is. These are the major emotions that cause people stress. Like you talk about Olympic this special. So you ask me how's instant we when people too much stressed calm down. You cannot continue going on. Why continue going on? Could mentally get trouble.

Yes.

Could it be stroke? Could it be hypertension? Could be dangerous in life. Everybody knows when people are so angry, so stressed bone like that fall down already. Stroke, blood clot, bleeding. And some people heart attack. Very dangerous. So when you have like Adam said, too much stress something stop. In ancient we call balance. Yin yang, balance backside of Body is Yang, front is Yin. Upper parts Yang, lower part is Yin. Around our body is Yang. Yin sets Yin liver Yin Yang, Yin Yang, Yin Yin Yang. Everything is Yin Yang. So therefore Yin Yang needs to be balanced. If Yin Yang balanced everything different. So therefore to deal with stress, too much issues, too much bothers. You really need to calm down. Meditate in a book. For example. Adam, I will show animation just for one minute. Everybody see this book we have, we have. Mr. We have a QR code. Adam, have you saw that? Just open one part. Just one minute. Yeah. You watch the heart. How. Okay. Fire element. Everybody watch. When you stress, do like this. Watch. Inhale, relax. Everybody relax. The healing sound is ah. Reach the golden ball going. Okay. This universal light comes in to the lower abdomen ready to harder. That light will remove depression, anxiety, anger, stress. Make your heart more fresh. I call light transforms. Everybody know the car wash. We drive the car to the car wash store so many water and the cars become clean. This is universal light coming remove negative information energy matter.

I love the animation is so effective. Dr. Shah, that would marvelous because visually we can see exactly how it's like a cleansing.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

And use the analogy of the car and the wash. It's perfect, right? Because we, and we, we in the average. The. The everyday things we do, we pick up the dirt, right?

Yeah. We pick up a negative information energy metric. You know my teaching very clear. I done all healing, all rejuvenation, business, relationship, country, family. One sentence. Apply positive information energy matter to remove transform negative information energy matter. That's only one sentence. I share openly in every interview that I have realized through my life experience. To give a one sentence secret to humanity. Every life, just one sentence. Now how does it work?

I haven't seen you physically, personally, together. We haven't been together maybe four or five years. You've been away yourself for more than three years?

Yes.

If I'm not asking something too personal of you, would you share a little bit about why you went away and what it was you were doing as you went away?

Yes. Okay, I share a little bit. In Chinese, as one word called B means gate. In ancient times, the Buddhist temple Dao Temple, the spiritual father they closed the gate means close. Close the gate. They do not see anybody. No more business. I receive guidance from heaven. I. I need to go to silence. I did it for three years. Half year each year. After another half year continued teaching, training, serving, healing. But within three half years, no business. I have very successful business. Everybody they take care of my people. Then I Do not deal with anything. The reason is I have to go to deep piece. Like Adam said, our heart, love, peace, harmony. I received a song Adam, no. And this is more than 10 years ago in Bay Area. People know Bay Area. I, you know, Redwood Area. I was with two teachers. I asked God, I said, dear God, Everybody can talk with God. Your conversation with God. We know that. I said, dear God, can you give me a sound for healing? The rainbow light flows down. Very strong light. I open the mouth. Lula lulali Lula lulali Lula lulali Lula Lulali Lula Lulali Lula I have no idea, but I know this divine voice. I said God, what does it mean? Lula lulali I love my heart, soul Lula lulali I love all humanity. Lula, Lula li Lula Join the heart and soul together. Lula Lula li Love, peace, harmony. Love peace, harmony. So everybody think about it. I love my heart and soul. Self healing, self transformation. You know, self love issue, stress issue. You got to love yourself. You need to stop. You stop. I love all humanity as a service. The purpose of life is to serve. Join heart and soul together. Calling love, peace, harmony. Result for health, relationships, finance, society, country, whole Mother Earth and Mother Earth is only one planet. The countless planets, stars, Goddess, universes. Everybody put a hand here, navel and here. Adam, give me two minutes, I will sing a song. I offer the blessing to everybody. Everybody relax. We talk about releasing the words I learned resilience I learned today. Thank you so much. We talk about stress. We talk about heart disturbance. Okay? It's a blessing. Everybody close eyes on dear divine soul. Son, can you bless me? Bless. You know, Adam, all the listeners, everybody if you can close, I drive the car. Whatever. Be careful otherwise at home. Give me two minutes. I love my heart and so I love all humanity. Join heart and soul together. La Peace and harmony. La Peace and harmony. Totally relax. Allow the universal light coming. Heaven, earth, stars, galaxies plus spiritual leaders. God, if you believe that, total relax. I have a calligraphy wall here. One more minute. This dark calligraphy. Carry the heaven source Love light. Relax. Everybody choose one area. Back pain, knee pain. You know, some people cancer, depression, anxiety, heart, anger, liver stress, heart also mainly total relax. Dog calligraphy light comes in. Come to the area. You need it vibrating inside. Adam, just know Amphar says, oh Master Shah, you do a light cleansing every Saturday. I'm doing this 10 to 11am for thousands of people worldwide. I call dull calligraphy. Light massage down of light, dull source frequency vibration all positive information, energy matter comes to your heart, your liver, your brain, your stressed area, your pain area, your inflammation area. Cyst, tumor, cancer area. Your relationship issue blockages transform negative information energy matter double lie comes to everyone. Cleansing, cleansing, cleansing. Vibrating, vibrating, vibrating, vibrating. The source of frequency vibration comes to everyone. Light, light, light. Light from head to toe. Light from head to toe. Light from head to toe. Yo y total relax. Universal light. Yah. Okay, Adam, there's a little service. You tell people. You watch again this part. Back pain, shoulder pain. I have thousands heart. Touching story. Just by just a few minutes releasing again. You could feel different. You feel miracle, wonderful. Better. Wonderful. Feel nothing. Wonderful Nothing. Promise light wash. That is my service.

Yes. Beautiful. The first time you and I met, do you remember that we were introduced by two people. It was Bernie Dorman, our dear friend who's passed away last year. Our dear Bernie Dorman and my agent. We have the same book agent, Bill Gladstone. Such a good man, Bill, and his wonderful work. And when we first met and you spoke to me, I invited you to come and speak to an audience of people. I'd never ever seen you speak before or deliver the service that you do. And I remember we did it at the very beginning of our event, had you come up on stage and share a healing prayer for people, you know, And I remember after that that some people, they got it immediately. They were so receptive to it. They were so grateful and appreciative. And other people, you know, we. That were very honest and transparent about their feelings, they didn't get it. You know, they weren't open or let's say it was new. It was so new and so different for them that it almost. It almost frightened them, if you can imagine. Right? Because. Because it's so. It's so different. I want. I want to ask you. When you work with people all over the world, you must meet people who are very ready to receive your. Your gifts and to receive what. What they're really looking for. Ultimately, it's them, right? They're inviting it in. And we have to do that because either we do open ourselves up, be humble enough to recognize there's many, many things that we can't understand. Doesn't mean that they're wrong or that we should be afraid of them because we don't understand them. And that takes a certain trust, for sure. And there are a lot of people not ready, not there. What do you say to people who are at the very beginning stages of potentially being open to seeing their life and seeing their life problems Their challenges differently than the way they have been seeing them to this point in time. Do you say certain things to those people?

What I tell them? I said, welcome firsthand participant. I have the system for self healing. We use our hands. One hand's navel, one hand's heart, shoulder. Because our body has self healing abilities. Then we, for example, heart for healing, heart chant. But the people understand the vibration up the light and leverage all in my book. I said, okay, kidney. And also I said, also. Everybody close has visualized universal light come down from your head. Clear your ear. Ice brain go to your neck. Thyroid go to you. Just meditation little bit. But I said some sensitive one. Like you said, radiative. Oh my. I feel tingling like just now. Some people feel, wow, huge vibration. Some people feel little, some people feel nothing. I tell people, no promise, it's just my love. You feel it. Wonderful. You feel nothing. Wonderful. Also great result. Wonderful. No result. Wonderful. Therefore people very happy. You know, I meet a thousand thousand people. They know, of course, some people not ready love them. What can you do? Slowly. We just kind of, you know, baby step small. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just maybe the only step at the moment is to just not be afraid to be. To be in a place to say, ah, interesting.

I'm open the heart.

Open.

Open the heart to experience. Remember what they said in Asian?

Well, right. You and I, we talk about this, right? The difference is it the heart that has to open first or the head, the mind that has to open, right? We did this book together, right? Because so often people think it's the mind over matter, right? It's the mind that controls everything. But your philosophy is different. Your philosophy is we don't start with a thinking because our race thoughts, our race mind, our monkey mind is constantly producing thoughts. Some of those thoughts are crazy. Some of those thoughts are just, you know, random, whatever. So to control the mind is very difficult, very tough. Like trying to control a puppy dog or something. Or to tell a baby to stop crying. You know, your mind is very difficult, right? But your soul, when you work at the soul level, it's different. Yes. Dr. Shah, is that correct?

Yes, yes, you're correct. In the ancient words, remember I said heart houses the soul and the mind. In traditional Chinese medicine, xin zhu shenming. Xin zhu Shenming means heart. Zhu means in charge. Shenming is soul, mind. Heart is in charge of soul and mind. So therefore, people said, open your heart and soul. In the ancient teaching, hard thinking, they never think brain thinking. But the ancient term xin xiang, hard thinking they do not see Nao Xia Nao means brain. They never see that word. But modern medicine talk about the brain, okay? The central nervous system leader and the central nervous system in charge of every system. But the mental disorder treat hard people receive remarkable results. I deal with many mental disorder also my philosophy is mental disorder calm down the heart Remove the negative information energy in the heart people wow result. For example I just give you one story it has proved for that I have a doctor of psychology Dr. Monique and one day he received the phone from a family member her sister killed herself. She was so sad she stopped her business coach work. She learned psychology. Everyone knows psychology she want to give a solution to the suicide depression anxiety. After she become a psychologist she she said I cannot no solution. Like you said, psychology is on a mind level. She said I have no solution. Then she become learned the soul healing. I teach now we made a documentary for her now she deal with hundred suicidal emotion depression anxiety. She said I cannot tell professional team enough. Master Sha teaching serve the heart transform the heart. Now I have such a result for suicidal depression anxiety. Like you said monkey mind work for heart everything follow like the one sentence heal transform the heart first all life will follow.

So we can speak to our soul or speak to our heart?

We can speak to both. Dear soul hard mind the body of my shoulder who think about the shoulder has of course shoulder has soul shoulder pain remember go to everybody go to online drsha.com on Facebook you just read go to YouTube read this just by few weeks 50 heart touching story. Just lie down there they do nothing this light come in why? Because negative information energy are met remove but what you do by yourself Admin talking There are so many body of my shoulder I love you mind and.

Body of my shoulder I love.

I love you. You have the power to heal yourself Do a good job. Thank you. This is phrases I want to give you two story in India 10 years ago in the 1000 people event broadcasting TV show at National Broadcasting one MD came to state he said I'm so excited to tell everybody Master Shah soul man body medicine See hallow healing technique I have a lady has 7 years psoriasis whole body inflamed. Itchy, itchy itchy Cortisone cortisone. But he said I told this audience Master Sha said dear soul man body of my skin. How many people think skin has soul? Nobody think that.

Dear son.

Yeah. I love you. You have the power to heal yourself Do a good job. Thank you. He said by two days whole inflame disappear by seven days. Seven years Ceres theories are healed. Doctor said. Wow. What kind of say hello technique. Another lady uterus is like a ball. Dear. So much body of my uterus. I love you. You have the power to heal yourself by three weeks. Big ball of uteruses disappear and this doctor said. I went to Amazon.com I got all my master shots book. I am thirsty to learn what the masters are sharing. You know, so hard touching in front of thousand people with national tv. I am making vow today. I want to make vow to spread Master Sha's teaching worldwide. Because my two cases totally blowed my head away. I cannot understand what kind of say hello technique. Because I believe I have the power to heal myself. You have the power to heal yourself. Together we have the power to heal the world. Adam and I and he experts in his field. In my field. But we work as one. Because soul, heart, mind, body is one. It's just who is in leadership. Like a company. There's a chairman, there's a board and there's employee. There's a relationship within. But they are one for success. So hard minded body. The president, board member, employee, everybody working. Love, peace, harmony. I sing Love, peace, harmony for you.

Soul, mind, body of my business.

Soul, heart, mind here. Adam. When you write a book, I write down list to people. They are so hard. Mind the body of my business.

Of my business.

They are so hard. Do not miss heart. They are so hard. Mind the body of my business. I love you. You keep repeating your business will change. You know. Remember David just treating David one person also. Adam friends, David treats my calligraphy. 10 minutes. Multi. He said. Yes, we interviewed him two days ago. Multi, multi, multi million dollars just by one calligraphy field. Then he said more than that. My awareness, my wisdom are very hard touching. He shared because 10 years I didn't talk with him. And he just used one of my calligraphy. He said. And he said one worth of my marketing business.

I just want to people listening or watching this. You don't know who David is. All right, so he. He owns a company called Sports1 Marketing. And it's with a former NFL quarterback, Warren Moon. You know, hall of fame quarterback, football player. So in his business. And I've known David now about 10 years from our our work together in and participation in tlc. It's called the Transformational Leadership Council. David is a very good man. He also him and his wife have four children. Just like Randy and I do. He has done so well in his life, in his business. He gives a great Deal of credit to you, Dr. Shah, for that calligraphy that you. That you gifted him. And he has traced it. I don't know if this is what his practice has been. He said to you just the other day, he's still doing it.

10 minutes a day, only time for 10 years. Never miss one day.

Yes. What we're saying though, is that that's not the power of the mind, it's the power of the soul. Yes, that's what I want to make the distinction. Right. When you and I did this book, soul over matter, we weren't saying that the key is to get control of your mind. Because it's very difficult to get control of something that is not controllable. Right.

You can't control that. Yeah. The secret is do not think mind. Make your heart peace. While heart peace, mind will be peaceful. Mind will follow because I will follow.

The heart, the mind.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. See here, see here, see here. I already said earlier. See here. This is the secret. Wisdom you can share. You can share Master Shah, ancient wisdom, teaching every wisdom you can share. What's wrong with that? What's here? This is Shen is soul, heart and mind. That is energy. This is matter. So the number one boss is soul, spirit. Spirit is in quantum physical information. I love my heart and soul. I love all humanity. Dear soul, hard man, body of my business. I love you. You have the power to be flourishing. You can solve issues. So number one boss, number two soul. Give the message to the heart. Heart is received. Adam, could you read my book Dao Science? Everything there called Dao Science book. It could help you for the inspiration for whatever your life can serve you. So the heart is a receiver. So when you have a love, peace, harmony, your heart receive. When some people make upset. Therefore white people has trouble because see the black one. Some people make upset. Message hurts you with message your heart. I do not like it. I'm hurting. See, heart is receiver. Heart can receive either positive, either negative. Then go to the man. Mind angry action speech Laosu fighting. Then body get sick. So therefore this is information.

You say Lao Tzu. Did you say Lao Tzu? The Art of War. Did you say Lao Tzu or did I sick?

You make you sick, Sick. No, no, no. I said information, receiver, processor and transform energy also and mover, transformer. So the basically is soul is the boss. So therefore heart, health, mind, soul. Therefore you meditate, you chanting. You connect the universe. Some people believe God, some people believe Buddha believe universal light. Whatever you believe, we honor everybody. But make sure Your heart. Peace.

So I have one final question for you, which I think you set up so perfectly just now. Which is I want to talk about or have you speak about forgiveness. Because when you talk about the things that are interfering. I'm reframing or paraphrasing what you're saying. The things that interfere with the flow, with our ability to heal ourselves or to create wonderful or even better results in our lives, financially or in any area. Relationships, health, et cetera. The things that get in the way, I think are what you were just diagramming right now. Those things that will clog the flow.

Yes.

Where does forgiveness come in? When you mention anger and you mention resentment and things that people hold on to that are upset.

Yeah. Adam, one issue we have to explain. Some people may aware this wisdom. Some people may not. Why Husband, wife. Adam and your wife Mary have children. You can talk about David and his wife. Everybody have a family. So because the marriage is a past life related. Many millions of people believe past life. Maybe some people do not believe. So, you know, you have very harmonized. Why divorce so much? You met one person. Oh, this is my true love. I love it. Later you find out this does not work out. Therefore, in spiritual realm called karma. Deepak Chopra also talk about karma. But many people may not understand. Karma is the record of past life services. Good service or unpleasant service. So therefore, in Tao science we call negative give you information. For example, some people can see my hands. This is A. This is the B. A make B very upset here, very upset. But A do something wrong. But people do not know. A make you upset, Upset here. In fact, past life. B heard a universal give you back. Yeah. A is wrong on this life. But B, you did the wrong things with the a past life. I give you one example. In Bay Area, one author lady came to me related with a man. I cannot give the name. World renowned author made billions of dollars. So this lady has a contract with this famous author, you know, I saw the contract. So they co create idea for service world renowned service. Then the man threw the lady out. The man made a find a publisher. He got all the benefit. This lady so upset. The lawyer told this lady, sue him, sue him. I give him a letter, he will give you 2 million. I'm guaranteed this million dollars here. Then the lady come to me, I turn in, I see the past life. I said, no, I do not suggest you do that. She said, why? This lady got cancer, breast cancer. Upsetting every day. But the man really cheated him. You know what happened? I said, you did the same thing for this man before. If you believe me no more, I cut your karma. Now you get $2 million between two of you next life again. Then he's sad. But you know, he listened my guidance that he went to India. Everybody know the mother called Hag Mother. You know, famous Hag mother Malaysia. Many people follow him. Ama called Ama mother. And another one, she found two spiritual mother leaders. They told her same thing. You heard man before. So therefore Adam talked about forgiveness. I have to explain to people. We have the principle. We know some people hurt us, abused us, did something wrong. My teaching. I forgive you, you forgive me. Bring love, peace, harmony. You have to let it go. Okay. Sounds I'm hurting. I forgave you, you forgive me. Bring love, peace, harmony. And you know, I have people, they have a lawsuit. The A and the B side, they called B said there are so many bodies for A or B. Come here. That we do forgiveness practice. We definitely have some past life issue. This life issue. And he's saying, love, peace, harmony. I love you. I forgive you, you forgive me. Bring up peace, harmony in three days. Others say, okay, let me solve the issue. No more lawsuit. So therefore, very important to understand the past life, this life, future life. Understand. Some people, they really hurt you. Oh, you revenge. No, no, no. In a spiritual wisdom, forgive, forgive unconditionally.

That is such a beautiful explanation. And more than that, it is a way of life to recognize the importance of forgiveness on both sides.

Yes.

You know that regardless of whether you believe in past lives or. Or you don't, this idea of how it is that we create harmony to understand. Yes. Right? Yeah.

Then. Yes.

You know, on some level, it's. It's almost arrogance to think. To think only in one direction that someone owes you apology. That you don't also owe them something like that as well.

Yes. You know? Yeah. I wrote a book called Da Kunshu Greatest Forgiveness. I shared a few stories. One story I share. In ancient time, there's one lady get pregnant. You know, in ancient time, before marriage, you get pregnant. Huge moral issue. Not different society, so many single mother, whatever, it's okay. But remember the ancient time. Then the parents asked the daughter, who is the man? So the doctor said, okay, the man is the monk. Nearby their home, the famous temple. The monk was a renowned spiritual father for thousands of miles. The lady said, monk is the man. The parents were so upset, they went to temple poor. They put a flame on the monk's face. Dirty words. The monk very calm down. You know what the monk said? Is this real? One sentence, nothing answer. Then the parents were upset. They gave the baby. The monk have to raise the baby, go to beggar for food. Then the monk totally peaceful. Then the mother so guilt. Mother tell the parents. No, no, no. I made a story. It's the man on the market to sell the fish. That man has a relationship with me to have the baby. The parents went to the temple, apologized, feel guilt. The monk said, is this real? The monk is a high level spiritual being. Nothing human stomach does not affect him. Then people made a story to harm him. He so peaceful. Heart Sutra Buddha Heart Sutra so powerful. Many people know Heart Sutra. Heart Sutra said shin is hard. No bother. Regardless human staff too many. Let it go.

A beautiful place for us to. To pause here. We pause here because I'm sure we can pick this up again soon. Dr. Shah, it has been such a treat, a blessing, an honor even that I get to share your wisdom with our community, with people who may have never read your books. So many books, so many wonderful books. Have never perhaps listened to you or experience. Experience some of what you. What you. You're singing and how. How it is. It washes. It washes over us. It. It's cleansing.

It's beautiful.

I. I love you, sir. I thank you. I thank you very much on behalf of so many people to say thank you. It's been a blessing.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Adam. You have done great service. You are excellent teacher. You really move people's heart. So I agree the wisdom we have wonderful experience. Really keeping my heart. I love you. I thank you. Maybe in the future we can do something together again. Okay, thank you.

I want to mention to everybody we always have show notes from all of these podcasts. You can obviously be listening. You might be listening or watching on YouTube Dao calligraphy healing field Six sacred Dao techniques to empower your to heal and transform Your life is Dr. Shah's brand new book, which you can get everywhere, of course. And you can go to drsha.com as well. In the show notes, you can find links to all of these things, the books, and more information about Dr. Shah's work in the world. We'd love to get a comment to find out what you thought of this conversation. So please feel free to go to AdamMarkel.com podcast to leave a comment. If you know someone that could really benefit. You know, maybe they're experiencing some discomfort in their lives right now in some area. Maybe it's physical, maybe it's mental, maybe it's emotional, maybe it's spiritual. Someone that could benefit from hearing Dr. Shah's words, maybe listening to his. His singing, to his. His thoughts, to what he shared with us today. Please feel free to share this episode with those people that you think in your community would really benefit from it as well. And the last thing I will say is that it is so important that we, especially in times that we are living in with great change, great disruption, great uncertainty, that we are able to love our lives no matter what, that we love our entire lives. I know that Dr. Shah, he models this so well that he loves his entire life. And I hope and I aspire to do the same even more in my own life. I wish that all for you all. Have a beautiful and a blessed rest of your day and we'll see you again very, very soon. Bye for now.

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