Mastering Your Superpowers & More With Tonya Dawn Recla

Welcome to the Conscious Pivot podcast with international speaker, business mentor, best selling author of Pivot, and your host, Adam Markell. The Conscious Pivot shares the stories and wisdom of people who have successfully reinvented some area of their business and personal life. You'll gain powerful insights into how you can fully embrace new opportunities, increase your performance, and master the art and science of innovation and resilience. So please join Adam as he guides you on your Conscious Pivot.

Hey, everybody, it's Adam. And welcome to the Conscious Pivot. I am really jazzed up, as I am almost every moment of every day. I got to kind of contain my energy. My wife, Randy, she always reminds me to harness. To harness my energy. So it's again, that goddess wisdom that's been so to me and I'm ecstatic because I have another amazing goddess with great experience in business and personal transformation that I get to share with all of you. And her name is Tonya dawn, and she's got an amazing company called Superpower Experts. And Tonya, would you. I said to you right before we started that I'm not big on the whole introduction thing, you know, where we read off the list of all the accomplishments that you've had. I'd prefer it if you would share with us just one or two nuggets that, that you really want people to know about you as a human being, in addition to the fact that you run a company and you're an entrepreneur and you're usually successful and you mentor and coach people and you've done that all over the world and you've made a huge difference, and that's truly special. But I want our folks to know who you are. Not the who are you? Kind of thing, but really just what you want them to know about you.

Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for having me. I always love a moment to connect with you. And so I'm excited about what transpires between us, always when we commit to that space. The biggest piece is exactly that. This is what I do these days 24 7, is that connection. I tell people I have, like, hundreds of birthing projects all over the world right now, but I operate in a concept called synergistic collaboration, and it's committing to the love and the energy that exists between us. And it's kind of. I mean, a lot of people would say it's maybe a little bit ironic given the fact that I come from, like, I'm an army veteran, counterintelligence, you know, the whole spy world stuff. It's like, what Is she doing? Talking about love and consciousness and all kinds of good stuff. But that's, but that's the path, right? Most of us who are doing this kind of work have some sort of a story that's, that's rooted in real practicality and linearity and more traditionalism. And I'm no exception to that. So that's, you know, that we could go through the gamut. But ultimately the most important piece is that my work in the world is being that bridge. And so bringing everyone into the conversation, whether it's, you know, the way, woo woo, metaphysical kind of energy realms or the practical business, entrepreneurship, there's real change and shift happening. And the only way that happens is through that continued integration. And I'm the embodiment of that.

Yeah, it's. Wow. Embodiment. Yeah, it's, you know, to me, I know, you know my own story. So our tribe knows it. I'm not going to bore anybody with it. It's a story about change, about how do you, you utilize change, which is everywhere around us, so that it doesn't, so the change doesn't become something we fear and react to, but something that we, that we embrace and that we respond to. And that, to me is an embodiment practice. So when you said embodiment, that's what just came up for me. And you, I think, are one of those people that really does embody it. Like, I meet a lot of great people, for sure. And there are people who are really great at acting. I'm gonna say, you know, who they present themselves as is sometimes pretty great. I don't always buy or think exactly that way in, you know, in other contexts, let's say. But I got this real deep feeling of authenticity from you that are at the core just exactly who you appear to be. And whether people like it, don't like it, get it, don't get it. Not really your concern. I'd call, you know, call that being able to stand in your, in your power and, but more than being, I mean, you're obviously committed to power. It's part of what you, what you do as a company. So maybe we could speak to that for sure. But really the word authenticity is what comes up for me. So thank you for that. And I'd love to know whether that's been the case for you all of your life or whether that's been a pivot along the way that you've learned and transitioned, been able to transition into that embodiment of a more powerful and true beingness.

Great Question. Thank you so much that I love that. Well, that's why you and I connect, because we can, we can see that and honor that in each other. And, you know, I think those of us who do this work, we just get to a place where it's like, that's it. Like, I don't, I don't. What's the phrase, you know, suffer fools lightly. You know, it's like I just don't have a lot of patience for the. Those who are unwilling to traverse the uncomfortable spaces. And. And I have ultimate and absolute patience for those who are willing to, even if they're not, well, averse at it. The willingness to me is what tugs at my heart and keeps me going. It's the unwillingness to move into those spaces because they kind of suck sometimes. You know, they're deep and they're rooted and they're kind of gushy and not all that great, but there's secrets and magic in those spaces. But to answer your question, it's yes to both. Like, I really. The authenticity has been in a constant unfoldment process, but the commitment to that journey has always been there. And it's taken many, excuse me, many different faces. Well, I guess I should say faces, layers. You know, as we. The onion kind of concept. As we peel back the layers, it looks different, but the root of it was that commitment to my own evolution above all else and to the detriment of everything else, you know, and I brought that into our marriage. I brought that into motherhood, I brought that into all of it. And it's kind of a kick in the pants when it's like, I can't just be a wife to my husband or mother to my daughter. But what we can do is as 2 solid, holistic, you know, whole beings and 3 whole beings kind of walk beside each other. And that creates a whole different dialogue than the idea that we are, you know, that somehow we're obligated to engage in societal roles or to honor or entertain lower frequency spaces in people. And I think that's ultimately what you're seeing, that you're picking up on, is that we think it's compassion and we think that it's sincerity when we meet people in their misery or when we meet them in a lower frequency space. But it takes real courage to say, I'm not going to honor that in you. That's not truth. And what I am going to honor is where we connect in a space where we're all connected, where love is the frequency. Love is what kind of binds us together. I'm going to honor that above all else. And that may mean that it doesn't sound real pretty in the moment, and that may mean that I'm not your favorite person in that second, but I have a lot of support and strength and a whole community and, you know, God behind me to say there's something bigger and I'm going to hold that vision for you until you can see it yourself.

Yeah, that's Mag. I'm just processing that distinction right now because it's. That's pretty profound. We talk a lot about meeting people where they are, and typically when I think of that, I think that's a good thing, you know, and not good or bad, but just that's a. That's. That makes sense to meet people where they are and then. But then the layer be below that is, do you. Do you end up staying with them where they are? Is that your intention to meet them where they are? And obviously I know our intention is to meet with them and then to help them to elevate themselves. But what I also heard you say is that, you know, it's not necessarily the case that you want to tolerate or that you'll be. You'll spend a lot of your time necessarily in the space of someone else in their misery if they're not willing to see, you know, see or try or attempt to move beyond that.

Yeah, I actually flip the process so I do it opposite. So instead of meeting them where they're at and trying to raise them, it's really, really challenging because if you energy seeks to balance itself, and so it's much easier for you to get pulled down into a frequency you're already familiar with than to pull somebody up into a frequency that perhaps they haven't embodied yet. They exist there, but they may not be consciously aware of it. So I just flip it. And so I meet them in that higher echelon space and affirm that for them. And then what I find is that the language that they can connect with just naturally comes through. It's their language, it's their information. So trusting that connection where we exist up there to guide the process, as opposed to allowing my mind to come in and say, well, I know where you're sitting here, because ultimately all that is, it's representing an aspect of myself in a lower frequency place. And so all it's doing is encouraging that for both of us. Whereas if you can affirm that higher space, really, I mean, I think if we're honest, I don't even know if we should be saying this out loud, but we all do this work because it's the next phase of our own evolution. And so to pretend that I can look at somebody and say, oh, you're here, you're here, and I'm going to meet you there and talk to you there, all I'm doing is coddling a lower frequency aspect of myself. And we just stay there together. And it's like you exist there, so you can. You can go down there. And that's why it feels so real to people. They're like, yeah, but it feels real. And I was like, of course it feels real, but does it feel good? Like the. This is also real, but there just aren't that many places and people that affirm that existence for us. And I think that that's important work to do as well.

So how does that. This. This is wonderful. And I'd love to know where either that shows up in your work. So if you could tell us a little bit about the work that you do and how that's incorporated into that process, that would be. That's a great. I feel like that's a good place to go from here.

Absolutely. I connect with people in what I call the abstract frequency. So all that yummy gooeyness that we were talking about, and I typically stay there. I mean, I get knocked down from time to time, but my goal is to stay in that solidity. So you brought up power before. My whole journey started about 10 years ago when I wrote the book War The Ultimate Guide to Personal Power and Safety. And that was my understanding of it at the time. And so I talked about situational awareness, of course, coming from the army and counterintel and stuff like that. It was a natural positioning for me to start combining self awareness and spiritual awareness into situational awareness. That was a big component that I felt was missing in a lot of those dialogues. And so when I added that in and you know, like, like you said, you know, you've got your stories, I've got mine. And that's what led me to some of the realizations over time. What that led me to was instead of the conversation around personal power, it led me into what I named kind of individual resonance. And so really owning the energy and owning your energy signature. Most people are broadcasting their inner. Their insecurities all the time, and they have no idea that they're doing it. And so their words are saying one thing, but their energy is just like broadcasting. We used to teach this at counterintel agents. If you can Pick up on the energy signatures. You know, how to get people to do what you want them to do. You know, that's. That's the point. I mean, that's kind of the name of that game. I kind of came out of that and chose to use my powers in a little bit of a different fashion. But that's what led me into the whole kind of superpower dialogue, which in my opinion is full autonomy. You know, ultimately, that's all. All any of us can really aim for is our own, mastering that personal power, developing our own autonomy. And in that space now we can move into what I call using your superpowers, which is where we choose to use them for good. We commit to using them for good, and we choose to do that with other people. And you can't really collaborate until you have that autonomy, because if you move into collaboration prematurely, you're constantly defining yourself through the collaboration as opposed to coming in with a solidity of self, allowing the collaboration to continue to mold you and shape you, just like a marriage does or any other relationship. But you have to know where your center is, or else the next thing you know, you know that that creates competition and ego and fear and all that good stuff. And as we need some solid collaborations to resolve some of the challenges, or I'm not a real doomsdayer, but the idea that we all know ultimately that we can do this better, and that's going to require us all coming together and working together. Well, there's work that has to be done prior to even that point. It's Pollyanna. Ish to think that we're all going to come together and join hands and come up with solutions. Not if people haven't done the work on themselves to kind of figure out where that. What piece they even hold for the puzzle.

Yeah, I think this is one of the central. Like, there's a central line where you and I, I believe, are connected. From my perspective, it's. It's that idea that. It's about personal responsibility and personal accountability and to ourselves, of course, because wanting more for the world, wanting the world to be a better place, like, for us. We really love peace. Like, that's what we want, is people to have their peace and to have peace in our greater community. But it's not about politics or about politicians or about governments or any of those things that are really abstract for most people. I think it's really about us individually working on our piece. So doing what you said, doing the work ourselves, to actualize the highest and best versions that we can be creates peace in us. And then ultimately is. Is the offering that we make to everybody that we interact with. Right. Like, as you said, your energy is there, you know, ahead of you, probably ahead of your words. It's ahead of your thoughts. It's that energy that's either sort of, you know, taking or giving. It's, as I've heard it said, affecting or infecting. I mean, it's that kind of thing. And so to own that, to be responsible for our own energy, to be powerful in that regard, that we're managing that for ourselves, for our highest good, becomes the highest good of everybody around us. And that's. So I sometimes say that we'd have world peace if just enough people, or not if, but when enough people, people are selfishly, like with a capital S. Selfishly working on their own, their own personal inner peace. Our world will be peaceful. It hits a tipping point where there's just more of that energy than there is the energy people, you know, doing other things right.

Well, and it goes so far beyond that, which is really where the superpower kind of dialogue came in. And I love everything that you're saying. The challenge is that in order to see it from that perspective, you really have to start entertaining the idea that perhaps things aren't as we thought they were. And so the willingness to kind of play with concepts like the matrix and energetic kind of woo woo eness and some multidimensional kind of concepts, because what happens is when you go down those trajectories and you start playing a little bit, you recognize that the world really is a projection of what's happening internally for you. You deny it internally, and it has to show up in your external environment to get your attention. That's the process. And so the idea that we can go out and change the world but not really pay attention to the self is quite erroneous. And it is selfish. It's the most selfish thing in the world. However, it ends up on the flip side of that being the most selfless thing in the world. The idea that be the change you want to see in the world, those weren't just pretty words. You can't affect your external environment unless you're willing to look internally first, manage it. You know, we teach this stuff all the time. And the biggest problem I see is most people lack the discipline or the willingness to counter themselves in every single moment and say, okay, what frequency am I operating from? And I don't mean high energy versus low energy. You don't need to Be bouncing off the walls and putting on a big show. But when you start to attune yourself to frequencies, and that's where that individual resonance really comes into play, you can take responsibility in every moment for what you're creating in the next. And it becomes a practice. And then you exude that, and then you model that, and then you impact others with it. And then you look at situations and you can see solutions in a very different way because you're not operating from fear first, but it is a practice.

So would you. Why don't we take a couple of minutes if you're game for this, and just lead us into what that, that awareness, practices. So somebody says, okay, so if I'm responsible for my energy, I've heard that before. Again, I love the way you pointed out it's not just rah, rah, energy versus quiet, and that, you know, it's something deeper than that. That superficial view, let's say, of energy. What. What is that energy at its core? And how does a person. How can people that are tuning into this right now actually check out, tune in? How about this? The people tuning into this can tune into frequency. How would you recommend they do that?

You're an entrepreneur through and through. Like, how can I spin that? Let's go. Oh, I love that.

That was the lawyer. That's the lawyer.

That's perfect. The concept is, is that you can. It depends. It looks different in different levels. So I'm not, I'm not shirking that question, but I really want to affirm for people that it always looks different at different frequencies. And so we start people off and the whole, like, you're not your mind, you know, you're not your mother. Just really simple, like managing your thoughts, managing what emotions you're exuding, like, really paying attention to why those are coming up, where those triggers are happening. We work a lot with triggers, whether it be cognitive, emotional, or vibrational triggers, and helping to identify what's happening. Like, what is going. Just taking a step back and going, whoa. Like, rather than just pushing forward from program behaviors and patterns. Wait, what is going on? Like, question everything initially. Just go like, okay, what's. Why am I acting this way? Like, why am I really upset? You know, we work with our daughter, she's seven now, but we work with her a lot on it used to be, you know, she'd move quickly into anger and so keeping it at sadness. Like, where was their first emotion? You know, and at that, at that stage a couple years ago, it was that sadness. So really training her to be stay sad. Stay sad. Like, we don't want to stay sad because it feels vulnerable, but stay sad for half a second and ask, what is it that you're really seeking? Well, once she got really good at that, then we had to move her into a new process. You know, once you've mastered a process, you have to be willing to develop a new one. And so we moved her into the space of really looking even beyond the emotion and what is it that you're truly, truly seeking? And we've got her now to where she can recognize and go. She goes, I feel like I just need some connection. Awesome. You know, let's connect. Let's start there and make sure you're operating from a solid foundation before you take action. And sometimes you have to take a step back and go, wow, I feel really adrift. Like, I feel alone. I feel unloved. I feel unsupported and unprotected. Why do I feel afraid right now? What is the fear? And so, you know, we use timeout a little bit differently in our family, and it's just time out. Go find the fear. Go figure out what is underneath all of this, and let's address the fear. Let's talk about what's real. And she's learned that, you know, I'll stop everything that I'm doing and talk for hours about what's real, but not the stories and not the. Not the overlays and not the dramas around what we don't want to take a look at. And those are just really simple techniques that you can start with. And the bigger piece is allowing yourself to recognize that you have all these different pieces and parts inside of you. That's where people get tripped up. They're like, yeah, but it feels real. I feel sad. It's like, of course you do. An aspect of you feel sad, but where you connect at your highest isn't sad like, you're. You're phenomenal. You're beautiful. You're this amazing, infinite, multidimensional being. Which aspect of you do you want to connect with? And it's not shirking the emotions and hiding them and ignoring them. It's moving to that observer role and saying, wow, what is going on here? What is the fear? Getting a bit of perspective on things, I think is key. I moved away from the whole ego dialogue a long time ago because I felt like it didn't give me credit for the work I'd already done. It was like, well, I just worked through this ego issue. Then here's my ego get. It's like, holy cow, this thing go away. So I just started breaking it all up into pieces and parts. And then I get credit for a part that I've loved and integrated. But then there's another part. It's not the same part. I didn't do it wrong. I didn't have to go back and learn that lesson. I'm just learning it in a different way at a different level. And it just motivated me to keep going on that process. And so there are different techniques that you can use. And then ultimately the guide, you know, the guidance is to stay in that highest frequency. That's where that. That knowledge of your own internal resonance really comes into play. The reason why that's so crucial is energetic manipulation. And we're manipulating an environment or being manipulated by it in every moment. So you choose. You know, we don't like to talk about things like manipulation. It feels icky, and we don't like to think about it. But you are being manipulated in every single scenario, and you are manipulating others. Own that, recognize it, and make a choice about how you're going to manipulate the environment. But we're seeing energetic manipulation being used. It's like NLP on crack, you know. It is, it is. It's a powerful tool. But when people are wielding it, without that solid sense of self and that solid embodiment of those higher frequencies, it can get ugly pretty fast. And it wreaks more havoc, of course, on the individual's personal life, as we know, than on anything that they can do to others. But. But there's. There's typically some collateral damage along the way. So really, just asking people to be responsible for that.

Hey, so what's come up for me as I'm listening to you? I thought somebody who's participating is actively listening to what we're saying right now might say, well, great, you go find the fear that. I mean, when you said, well, there's. There's ways to begin. I wrote down a few. One was this question that your daughter uses that you've given her, which is what it. What is it you're really seeking. I think that's a very powerful question. And I'm a huge believer that asking powerful questions is a very significant way to uplevel your life, even when you don't have answers. Especially when you don't have answers. Because to me, the most powerful questions are actually the ones you don't have answers to. But you ask them. Knowing and believing and having faith at some level in the universal law, which to me is that questions and answers have a cause and effect relationship. So you cannot ask a question that you will not get an answer to. You will always get an answer. You just might not get it in, in the time frame that you want it. So you might want it now, but you're not going to get it now. It's just like, you know, having somebody's name that you can't think of on the tip of your tongue. You can't remember it, but then you let it go, and an hour later you're washing the dishes or something and the name pops in your head, kind of, that type of thing. So, you know, what is your. What is it that you're really seeking? I hope you know, folks are writing that question down right now. And then you also said, go find the fear. So when you go after the fear, I mean, you're seeking to find what it is that you're actually fearful of. What's the step at that moment? That's a. That seems to me like that's a pivotal, pivotal moment right there. So for you, when you go inward and allow yourself to feel what you're feeling and not try to, you know, shoo it away or distract it or get busy to create drama so that you don't thinking about that anymore, but you actually sit with it and you go find it, and you find it. That's an interesting moment. It's like going to look for a tiger and you find the tiger. So tell us what that's like for you.

I sit with it. I sit with it until it doesn't have that constrictive feeling anymore. I love it. Part of it is the belief that we carry a light within us that can overcome any fear. So the first step, of course, is recognizing that it's all fear. If it's not love, it's fear. If it's not expansive and light, it's constricting and there's some element of fear. But there's a profound belief. I love that you brought up this tiger image. It actually reminded me biblically, ironically, about, like Daniel in the lion's den, right?

Yes.

You have to have an unwavering confidence that you have a light and it's connected to something so much greater than yourself and so much bigger than yourself, that no matter what the fear is, if you just have your little itty bitty flame walking into it, it will change it. It does start to dissipate the fear. And that fear will hide from the light. Right? We know this. You can't chase it around, but you've got to be in it. Like it's gross and it sucks and it feels oppressive and it hurts and you want to cry and you do all of that, but you stay in it. And you start doing that in our conversations. You don't run away from them, you don't try to overlay them. Like I'm noticing this in marriages, in parenting, all of it. You stay in it energetically. And you just know that as long as you lead with love and that's out front and center, it changes everything. Always. It can't help. But it's just that confidence. It doesn't mean that you're going to have the answer right away. I love what you said about kind of keeping that question loop open. Don't let the mind or the fear try to close it off. Keep it open and just say, I don't know what's going to happen here, but I know ultimately I'm safe. And sometimes you have to play little mind games with yourself to where it's like, okay, am I safe right now in this moment? And it may just be in this millisecond, am I okay? Well, yeah, but you might not be okay in two seconds. Okay, but in this millisecond, am I okay? And then the next one, and then the next one. And you, sometimes that's all you can do is just in every moment. And you just got to manage all of those pieces and parts. You know, I call it like kind of sitting on your throne, that sovereign. And as long as that sovereign is sitting on his or her throne, all those other parts will submit. They will calm down, they will submit. But if they're wreaking havoc, it means that that sovereign, the king or queen, is not sitting on the throne. Get back on the throne. Listen to what they're saying. Like, you're not going to just dismiss your subjects because they're fearful of the dragon that's coming to eat them, right? You go, okay, what, what's the concern? What do we need to talk about today? I mean, I hold full on board meetings every morning when I wake up. Okay, how's everybody doing? All my pieces apart. Where are we at? You know, and just let them have a voice. Because when you do that, it starts to demystify that process. But when you try to shut them down or hold them up or whatever you're doing or ignoring them or pretending they're not there, they just get louder and they force that projection. Then in your environment, you're going to Take notice one way or the other. I'd rather do it willingly. Yeah.

And I love that image. So I, I really appreciate the. The visual of the sovereign and that sovereign being, your. Your higher self, your. Your. Your true. Your true knowledge. Knowledge of. Of your true being, which is love going.

Connection to connection.

Exactly. Yeah. It's. It's a profound learning for sure, that, that in. In a moment, you can check in with yourself by asking a question, you know, like, you know, is the. Is the sovereign on the throne? Right. For example, who's. Who's, you know, like, who's driving the bus here?

Exactly.

And not. If people are being honest. And I'd say this about myself too, you know, more often. It's. It's fear driving the bus. I mean, that's just.

Absolutely.

Yeah. And so to be present to. That gives you. Not gives you other. Other options, other choices. In fact, what you were saying earlier about frequencies, it occurred to me that reacting and responding, like when. Because I want people to sort of t. Feel out what frequencies look like when we're. When we're talking about energy, when for the most part, I think we talk about it as high energy and low energy. And what you're giving us is some just gray matter on. There's more there than just, you know, how we even physically perceive energy reacting and responding. These are different energies, right?

Absolutely. Well, and I really want to affirm for your listeners too, because over the last 18 months, you and I tend to attract a lot of the same kind of, not that same people, but a lot of the movers, the people who were really here to have an impact on the world. And over the last 18 months, on our podcast over at the Superpower Experts, I've talked with a number of those individuals, and I will tell you, most of them are sitting in a place of fear right about now because they don't know what's next. Right. They kind of climb their own mountain in my speak, and then they're sitting there going, what's next? You know, and this really ties into your pivot concept, and it's the willingness to continue to say, wait, what if the next thing looks different than what we thought it was going to? And what I really want to affirm is that as we go through this process, that attunement process gets more and more and more subtle. And I contend that you reach a point where you cannot see those fear pieces on your own. You can't. There's too subtle. I mean, you. We needed help moving the big boulders and the rocks. And then we needed help moving the pebbles. Why would we think that we wouldn't need help moving the grains of sand and the dust that remains at these higher frequencies? You have to find people who are sitting in a vibration that's either right where you're going or similar to yours to get assistance in seeing that. And what I'm seeing over and over and over again is that people are confusing material success with this next layer of growth. And so they're seeking advice from people who are just as afraid and just as confused as they are. And it's all the folks who are sitting on mountains of money and have all whatever's going on. And they're not admitting that that money is going away. Those relationships are going away. Those businesses are failing because they don't know what comes next. That. And if you're in that situation, please stop telling people to do exactly what you're doing because it's not working. Sit back and go, okay, what needs to change here? And be willing to face it courageously and say, I built this whole brand around this concept. You growing doesn't mean that your brand is no longer effective. It means it's no longer effective for you. We build up brands and businesses so that we can move on. You build a convergence around an idea that is still helpful to people at certain frequencies. Now move into the next one because there are people looking for you. I talk to them all the time. And we need more and more people being willing to pull the veil back and go, I think there's something that comes next. You know, we all kind of broke out of the matrix and no one said, oh, by the way, you just built a new construct. Well, wouldn't it make sense at some point we have to break out of that one and go into the next one?

Yes. What's now and what's next? It's interesting because in 1955, they started tracking the 500 most successful companies, and they call it the Fortune 500. They still do. Still tracks the 500 most successful companies that are publicly traded. And that index, it's interesting when you look at the companies that were on the original index only 12%, it's actually less than 12% of those companies exist today. So these were the companies that you would have thought would be around forever, and yet they're not, because they, they weren't thinking about what's next. They weren't working on the business that they would be in over time by looking, by looking ahead at where. Where they would need to be different or provide something that was different and where the world would be different. They were just in essence, protecting. Protecting what they had. Protecting the status quo on some level. Playing. Playing, you know, more defense than. Than anything else. And I. I think that's really important because I think people, you know, at the root of why we do what we do in regard to pivot is to help people to break out of that. The. The trying to keep safe, to play it.

What does that even mean anymore?

I don't exactly yet. It's still an old. It's still an existing paradigm. It is based in fear. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. I just got done telling our whole group. I was like, here's the deal. If you're waiting for the chaos to slow down, you're gonna be really disappointed. You have to be able to walk in the middle of the storm like you have to. The only hope that you have is to find resonance and to find some sort of stability within yourself so that you can walk in the storm. But that's the work. It's easy to do our work at the top of our mountain, wait for people to come to us, and you can help onesies and twosies. But most of us have gotten visions and information and guidance that there's more to do. Well, the only way you do that is you have to walk back down off the mountain and go back into the world that you just pulled yourself out of. How can you do that if you don't have the tools to maintain your own frequency and solidity as you're doing the work in the place that it really needs to be done? That's a whole different process than climbing up your mountain.

It is. And it's the perfect place to take the last segment of our show, which is really regarding the practices, the personal, I call them rituals. Some people feel like there's religious tones with that. To me, it's not. I refer to that as master habits. So, like, Covey had his seven habits. These are, to me, what are the master habits, the ones that you consciously create to use your words, to maintain your resonance, to maintain your solidity, knowing that you're walking into a storm or that it. Storm is. Is about to start, or you're coming out of a storm, but either way that you're. You really are grounded and centered. So do you. Could you share at least maybe one ritual, something that you. That you do that keeps you in that solidified state?

I stay connected to my lifelines. That's what I call them. I find the people who are amazing and what they do. I know exactly what they're amazing at and where they play really, really well, what puzzle piece they hold. And I use them in that regard and they, I keep them close. I mean, I often have like five minute conversations with somebody be like, hey, I just need to dah, dah, dah, dah. And sometimes they don't have to say a word. There is magic in the space between us. When we're willing to come together and connect with people in these higher frequencies. Magic always happens right between us. And sometimes it's just meeting together in love and saying, I hear you. And like, well, have you considered this? And sometimes it's just a little itty bit like a one sentence thing. And I'm like, oh, yep, that's what I needed. Awesome. Thank you. And we're off and running again. Those of us who do this work, we're busy, you know, we have stuff to do. There's real work to be done in the world. You have to know who's in that space with you. You know, find your allies, look to your left, look to your right. And again, don't look for the money, folks. There's a whole group of people who didn't use money as a catalyst in this lifetime and they achieved material success without achieving that vibrational resonance that, that is going to be necessary moving forward. Forward. And so be really cautious who you hand over that sort of authority to. Ultimately you want the people who are going to help you build up your own individual authority and support. I mean, that's what superpower experts is all about. We have a whole net work of people so that people can find their allies and get the support they need so they can do this work in the world.

Yeah. So what I heard you say, I think was that you, you stay close to what you called your lifelines, which are other people that support you or that you feel supported from.

Absolutely. And who operate in a resonance and a frequency that is in alignment with where I'm at or where I'm going.

Right. So again, you're not, you're not kind of entrusting your energy or infecting your energy, let's say, with some folks, especially if you're in a vulnerable place that you get with somebody. So the way that Chelsea, our oldest daughter and I actually think of this as we talk about chunking up or chunking down. So you know, when you, when you chunk down, you get into that muddy place with people that survival mode or scarcity mode and they're drowning. And I was a lifeguard for a lot of years, and the first. The first instinct of a drowning person, believe it or not, is to drown someone else.

Yep.

Absolutely crazy about it.

We love to eat our own, right?

Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. But when we love to eat our own, that's so funny. But when you chunk up, right. When you're in that space with people that are wanting to raise their energy and are, in fact, raising their energy, raising that vibration for themselves. Oh, my son is waving to me.

Hello, son.

Hey, Max. You want to stick your head in here? So we're on a podcast, but just stick your head. And this is Tonya. Tonya, Dawn. Tonya.

I'm Max. Hey, nice to meet you. Very cool. I love the family endeavors.

See you later. I love you too. Yeah, it's amazing when we hang around with people that have a good energy, that your energy is just there. It matches up or it matches down, I guess, is the concept. Right. So it doesn't mean that you're not in compa. Don't have compassion. I have compassion for people who are in a bad place and all that. But it's what you said earlier, it's kind of bringing this full circle circle that my job isn't necessarily to get in the. Get in the. In the muddy place with them because it's very difficult to help if you want to truly be of help. It's tough to help when you're, you know, in the quicksand with them.

Absolutely.

Better to be, you know, handing them a stick or a rope or doing whatever you can do to help them to, you know, pull themselves out or you help them to get out of there. Just recognizing, too, is a part of just how we're built as human beings that oftentimes. And I. You know, I wouldn't known this if I hadn't been a lifeguard, that their instinct, for survival reasons, is to just take their arms and wrap them around, you hold on for dear life while you both drown.

That's a great analogy. And it's. And it's. And it's not out of ego. I mean, it's not out of any malice. It's. It's out of fear. You know, that it's just. It's just an instinct that we have that says, help me get some solid footing in this space. And ironically, the best thing you can do is to not get in that space with them. Certainly assist or take in enough resources with you when you go. If you have to go in there and get them, make sure you've got your Rope or you've got your lifesaver, whatever tools you utilize. But if you go in unarmed and you go in not, not filled and not fueled or at a lower frequency, you're right. You're both going under.

Yeah. Thank you. You know, I wanted to say thank you because you really. I used. I use some analogies from that experience. I spent seven years as an ocean lifeguard, but I have not used this one before. Meaning I didn't see that aspect of it. Not just from the standpoint of don't get, you know, sort of get in a situation where you're going to get drowned by somebody else or. But more or less the idea that you come in resourced and I did like, we would work up an hour in the stand and down an hour, up an hour, down an hour. Because the hours we were in the stand, often we were constantly making saves because it was a very busy ocean beach, thousands and thousands of people, riptides and rough water and all that kind of thing. So on the down hours, we would run, we would swim, we would lift weights in the shack, we would eat our lunch. We were taking care of ourselves. We physically, we were in camaraderie and we had a great team, great crew. So when it was rough out there, we wouldn't go in alone, we'd go in. We have our lives, you know, have the buoy, the lifesaver. You have your, your fins on. Sometimes you have your. Your other mates that were gonna swim out and. And so three or four of us out there. Sometimes we have the dory out there, the boat that was out there, whatever we needed, you know, the paddle board, the surfboard. We had equipment to make sure that we could do that job, which was to save lives and help people and not lose life, not lose those folks lives, not lose our lives. And that's a process.

Absolutely. And you have to be willing to. The climb up the mountain is very individual. I affirm that. Absolutely. It is a solo journey. The climb back down the mountain is a collaborative venture. You have to be willing to come together, grow transparently in the presence of others, be vulnerable, be transparent, and really kind of uplift everybody as you go. But the more of us who do that, we're exponentially more powerful together. You know, two plus two equals a thousand. You know, there's no. It's not. It's not a one and one, but exponentially more impactful when we choose to come together. But when we bring our own strength into it and our willingness to see ourselves and to not hide from that and not to put on airs or to put on masks and all this other crap that we do. You know, it's like you're broadcasting insecurities anyway, folks, stop. You know, you're not. You're never the most intuitive person in a room anymore. Trust me, somebody knows. If you're not comfortable or confident in what you're saying, be honest.

So we're wrapping up here. I'd love for you to share. Where is it that our community can find more information about you and the work that you do?

Absolutely. Superpowerexperts.com Pretty easy. There's a little quiz on the homepage and find out one of your superpowers. But mostly if you're listening to this, like, our people always know who they are. If you hear a yes, then come join us and just know that, you know, I say it's like an energetic Verizon network. If you know you're here to do impactful work in the world, you have to be supported. And that's the work that we do in the world.

Wonderful. Thank you so much for being.

Thank you.

Special light in our presence today. Thank you for that.

Thank you for the invitation. It's always a pleasure and I honor you for everything that you do in the world. Thank you.

Thank you.

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