Candid Conversation with Adrienne Barker, MAS

Debbie Connors, not O'Connors. I just gave you a little Irish name there. Debbie Connors with the— okay, I'm gonna close my eyes— Port Orange South Daytona Chamber of Commerce.

Right.

When I first moved here, actually took me a little while. So how are you?

I am doing great. I will be doing great when we're past all of this COVID-19 stuff and we can get back to business as usual. It'll be nice, but You know, I'm doing well, so no complaints.

Have you been home or have you been in your office?

I've been in the office. You know, we have a small office and the way our offices are set up, we could socially distance. And so I gave that option to everybody to work from home. And I did work from home a little bit. There are some Zoom meetings and things that are suitable for doing at home. But usually I like to come in and I just feel like I'm, I'm I've got all of my work around me and I'm just more comfortable working from my office.

I can totally understand that. So Debbie, there's so many ways that there's so much information out there and every website really, you know, the Chamber website, SCORE included, has a lot of information. What I'm curious about, the deep question that I have for you is how do you manage all of that information And so your office, it's you, Leslie, and Patty. And Patty.

So how does that work?

Because it's coming to you and just consistently, how does, how do you work that?

It has been very, it has been very difficult during this time because we're getting information from, you know, the government. So state, federal government, the city, city government, the county government, but also from like the Florida Chamber of Commerce, the US Chamber of Commerce, the American Chamber of Commerce. You know, they're all dealing, you know, on bigger scales with the same issues and trying to push information to us so that we have something to go by. So as there have been resources that have come available for the businesses, we're trying to hone in on what's going to be the most helpful. To them and get that information out there. So initially it was just general on coronavirus. What is it? You know, what, how does it affect us? And, you know, and then it became, you know, we're all going to have to shut down, um, or, you know, only essential businesses. Well, what is essential? You know, so we were able to work with all of these other entities to get the right information. And Leslie, so I, I I get it to Leslie and she's able to go into the backend of our website and get the links up on the website. So, and then we were constantly going through those as things changed to make sure that we have information that businesses need and want. And so when they started coming out with the resources for the PPP and the EIDL loans that were available and those sorts of things, then we needed to make sure that all of those applications were up there. And then, you know, when they were tapped out on money, then we, you know, let people know it's not available right now, but then the next round came out, you know. So it's been constantly trying to keep up with the information and make sure we had good links on our website to the applications, the information on how to apply, what's available, and that sort of thing. So it's been very, very, um, Busy. It's been very busy.

I can imagine. And then how does it work with the House reps? And I think you had a senator— did you have Senator Wright on? Because I was on a few of your calls and you've had some politicians on. How does that work as far as like— because they're going back to back with other chambers too speaking. So do you do the booking of them?

Well, we had Senator Wright scheduled a couple of months ago. We wanted to, you know, we thought the session would be over and it'd be a good time for him to speak. And normally we'd have him come speak periodically. And so we had that date scheduled for an in-person wrap-up meeting. And then Representative Leek also was tagging on to some of those because really what we wanted to update of a review of the session, how did it go? What happened? And then it became, and give an update from your perspective on what's going on right now with this and how it's going to affect the state and what we're looking at. So the timing was really, really good. So we had it on, I believe it was April 30th. And so we changed it to a Zoom meeting. And so it was a little different and a little tricky. And, you know, as luck would have it, Well, I had it set up on my computer. I was hosting it and then Leslie was co-hosting it from her computer. My computer crashed during the middle of it.

Oh, I remember that.

And then it went over to her. So everything worked out just fine. But it's been a whole new experience learning how to, to do all of our meetings with Zoom or, or GoToMeeting or JoinMeeting, you know, all these different platforms that we can do meetings with, and we primarily use Zoom, but this is, this is a great platform right here.

BeLive. So actually, I was on the call and it was, and I remember your computer crashed, but it was like a one quick second that was mentioned and then it was very smooth. Actually, it was a, that was a great meeting because there was a lot of good information that was, was given. Actually, a lot of your, are you opening up your meetings to non-members? Because I know some different chambers and groups have like done like an open house kind of thing where they're opening it up. I wasn't sure, and especially Thursday when I will be speaking, is that just for members or open for everyone?

Members can, um, can join in on it, and we've put it out, you know, we've put it out on Facebook and that sort of thing. Of course, you have to be careful on Zoom, so we're having people register through the chamber so we know who's on there, and it's not really to keep anybody out, but just to know who's on there and be able to somehow control it. So yeah, we're really anxious to hear and interested to hear what you're going to present to us, and we all need all of it right now because you're going to talk to us about good Zoom etiquette, and I've certainly noticed, you know, on your Facebook posts, there's It's so cute and I loved it, but I really noticed that, you know, people like picking up their fingernail file, their cell phone, and, you know, reading their emails and that sort of thing and what that looks like to people that are sitting in on that meeting. You know, it's really good. It's gonna be a good time for that.

Isn't it weird that we still have to remind people to mute? So whoever's watching, they'll say, well, it's not me, I don't need it. But yet I have not been in one meeting where someone hasn't had to And funny enough, a lot of, a lot of hosts will say in the beginning to remind people to mute, but when the host doesn't say it because maybe they're thinking everyone knows enough, there's always— you'll hear the garbage in the background. Did you see the Supreme Court? They had it that the toilet flushed in the background, but whoever did it just like went on like they didn't miss a beat with the flushing. I'd be giggling in the background.

It's hilarious, the things that go on. And they'll start talking and forget to unmute, you know, unmute. So there's been some pretty, pretty, uh, humorous Facebook posts on that whole thing and some YouTubes that are great. The one with the little dog Zoom meeting, I love. If you haven't seen that, it's hilarious, you know.

Oh, I've got to look at that one. Yeah. So you have— Jennifer is your president, right?

Yes, chairman of the board.

Chairman of the board. Okay, so Jennifer is just absolutely brilliant and beautiful. I really enjoy her, and I love this idea of you're going to the restaurants. Can you tell me a little bit about it? Because it's so clever.

Well, you know, one of the things that people are curious about is, okay, is the restaurant open and how are they making sure that we stay safe and that sort of thing. So She and Leslie went around, Leslie was on the other end of the phone and went to some of our member restaurants and actually, you know, talked to them about, okay, what is the spacing gonna look like? What are you doing to socially distance families that are there to eat or people and how are you, like, Aunt Catfish, people were used to going there for the bar, their hot bar, their salad bar. And of course, everybody is doing things differently. So we wanted to kind of show what different restaurants are doing. Monterey Grill has spent a lot of time over while they were closed sanitizing their restaurant. And so we wanted to show those types of things. And so they've been going to the restaurants and actually doing a little walkthrough. We're all more comfortable. I know when I wanted to go pick up something to eat, a while back. I, you know, I kind of wanted to know what that looks like. I mean, I'm gonna walk in and there's gonna be a bunch of people coughing and sneezing on food.

It's true though, you're right. Is it?

Yeah, yeah. So I've been going around doing these and it's been good.

Well, you know, first of all, I want to really be clear with this. I don't judge. I mean, everyone, we all do other things, something. So I— but I'm just curious, like, so we went to a couple of restaurants this weekend to celebrate our 21st wedding anniversary. Woo-hoo! Congratulations. Thank you. Yes, yes. 21 years with Alan. Woo! No, I'm kidding you. He's lovely. He's lovely. But from the minute we got out of the car, nobody was wearing a mask. Yeah. I felt like it would be uncomfortable to wear a mask. The servers— nobody was wearing a mask. I absolutely enjoyed my oysters raw, because I'm a bad girl, and cooked 5 different ways, literally. It was very good. But, and then we were separated, and that felt comfortable. As a matter of fact, we were like lonely in a whole big room by ourselves. But I just don't know what the rules are because I'm getting myself confused too. Just in Osceola County, we have— they have to wear masks. We don't. I don't think Brevard— I don't even know Brevard. Do you know? Not sure. And then we went for Japanese food. Same.

They, they should be similar. I mean, they should be very standard. And I think that from my part, everything I've seen, it encourages masks. And so we're kind of depending on our servers to be safe and to be doing the right things. But I'm like you, I don't want to judge if people are doing things safely, but I have heard incidents In fact, we heard this morning about a restaurant that possibly, and I don't know this factually, but that possibly had to shut down because they had an employee that came down with the virus.

That's scary.

That's a big worry. And we all want to be, we want to be as safe as possible. And so I am more comfortable when they're wearing masks. Now, one of the restaurants that Leslie and Jennifer went to was Jimmy Hula's and they have outside dining. And so they chose not to wear masks. So we have to make our own decisions. And as our city manager tells us in Port Orange, that he does not have the personnel to enforce all of the guidelines. So we as residents and citizens and patrons of these organizations are going to have to make sure that we feel safe and that they're following the guidelines that we know. And I think masks are always a good idea, protects you and it protects people that you're talking with. So I don't, I don't really see a downside to that. I know it's become more of a political issue or, or something that people think they're being told they have to do. And so they don't want to do it, you know, and so I'm trying to understand that as well. I know people are coming from all different perspectives on this kind of thing, and we haven't dealt with this before, we haven't had to live through this.

So, so what you're saying is really interesting. So what is etiquette? Etiquette is doing things that help others to feel comfortable and doing what would be kind of considered the social norm. But if you're going out— so when I go out, I, I already have to say to myself, who am I to expect anyone else to do something. I'm, I'm going out, so it's my risk, and I should, you know, I do what I want to do. So when we're in a grocery store, we wear a mask. I actually found out that I have weird ears and that for some reason masks, like, so I was helping Healthy Souls, I was helping Maria, and, and like her mask, she had to go through 3 masks, which she'll wash and give to someone else, but it was only like had to have a strap, it had to be special for me because I have like weird ears, which I didn't know. So thank you COVID-19 for letting me know. Oops. But anyways, I know that that's why I say it's not up to us to judge. I've heard people feel that when they are, when they're out with a mask, that and other people have a mask, that they're not as nice to each other, right? That, you know, carriages and people will get mad. And I don't know if that's because you can't see the face, maybe they feel that they're hiding. But I want to encourage people to always be nice. We have to, if you're going to be out there Then you have to, you know, there's, there's a little signage on the floors to say 6 feet. Don't bump a cart without apologizing. I try to walk backwards if I can to let someone else clear because that's how I am anyways. When I drive a car, I don't like rush. I let people go in front of me. I'm okay with that. So I do the same thing. I follow my own like rules of being in kindergarten, right? Do watch others.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, we've got to do what, you know, I understand and respect that other people are doing what's right for them and what they feel safe with. And I'm going to wear the mask in the grocery store if I go in there. And, you know, because I just feel like it's the right thing to do for me. But I didn't throw the first stone, so we'll just, you know, hope for the best.

Okay, I have a burning question that I bet you every single person wants to ask this question, but they don't want to look like they're me. So are buffets here to go? Are buffets here to stay, or are they leaving us?

I think they're leaving us, at least for the time being. I'm, I'm positive they're leaving. In fact, I've read that, you know, unless somebody is actually serving you know, from the buffet and people are not able to stand over it or breathe over it. And I don't know how organizations that are buffets, you know, like Golden Corral's, for example, you know, how do they even operate from here on up? I'm sure they're looking at safe procedures and, you know, we'll see how that goes. But yeah, even some of the restaurants that that normally you would be able to pick out your food. You're just not able to do that now and they bring it to you in a bag. So in my opinion, I don't think we're gonna see any buffets for a long time.

Wow, okay, no buffets everyone. The other thing are apartment complexes like I live or in condos where you have a clubhouse. I'm waiting for the email to say that our pool is ready, that we can go to the gym, whatever they do. I don't care if they close the gym, I just wanna get in the pool. So have you heard anything about that? Because nobody's really mentioning about clubhouses.

No, I haven't heard much about that. And I, you know, and I don't think the pool itself is going to be a problem. Everything I see is that the virus does not thrive in, in sun and humid environments. So I think that you're probably going to be fine at the pool. The tricky thing is going to be the chairs that you sit in, the tables that you touch, and those types of surfaces. And I think the surface is, well, you know, be easier to keep decontaminated because of the sun and the moisture, but they're gonna have to be consistently cleaned and sanitized for people to feel safe.

You know, and I mean, I think that people also could bring their own spray and sanitize yourself if that's what you feel. So I'm willing to do that.

Yeah.

Exactly. By the way, I do have PPE products with Halo. We have— Halo created this amazing way to order so people could order masks, 1,000, and they're just like 3 clicks. They don't even have to go through me. It's just a nice easy order. But we also have a lot of custom masks where they can be fully custom, which we'll start to see will now be a form of apparel. And that's a big deal. I saw one with a hole for straw so people could still use a mask, and it has a straws. So there'll be a lot of different things going on. Cowls that, like, you know, like the Survivor buffs that could be used. But I do have masks.

I get my team mask. So I've got, you know, I'm a Seminole, so I had to get my FSU mask.

Yes, see, that's so smart that they did that so quickly too. I think it's brilliant. I love that the companies have done that, and I really appreciate that you have also let us know very easily on the site what restaurants are open because that— it's not so easy. We really needed that information because you can't really know if Facebook and Google— so I would, I would really suggest if you have a business, anticipate that people are going to go in and they want the most up-to-date information. It's very easy to change Google and it's very easy to change Facebook, so make sure you got passwords, right?

Yes, absolutely. And we, you know, we've been putting out a virtual marketplace so that our chamber members can put information on there about what they're doing so people know, are you open? Are you, you know, what are you doing? Are you doing outside delivery? That sort of thing. We were really trying to get that information out there when everybody was closed because there were so many restaurants that were doing the curbside service, and we wanted to get that information out there. And what are they serving? Do they have a limited menu? How do I order from them? So, you know, that was important information to have because I know I got a little tired of cooking.

You don't want my food. I, I like really not good at all. I get sick on my own food, so I don't know. So the restaurants are good. What about the stores though, like Tanger Outlets? It's hard to know what's open unless you actually walk Tanger. I think that would be a good one to find out if all the stores are open, because they don't have it on their website and they don't have it on— there's nowhere you can't find out. The only way to go is literally to drive, park, and see what's open, or call every store. So I think that would make sense too. And not every store is being open yet too, as they work out employees that don't want to work.

Well, that's the thing, is getting people to come back to work and they've got to feel safe. And of course there's the unemployment thing where you can make pretty good money on unemployment right now. So hopefully that's not keeping people from going back to their regular jobs. But yeah, it's difficult for retailers to open up right now. You know, see the new way of doing things. And I went to a store the other day, a clothing store, and I was wondering how they were going to do if you want to try on clothes, and the dressing rooms were closed. You cannot try on clothes at some of these places. Well, at the one that I was in. So I would imagine they would limit that because how do you even deal with, you know, somebody trying something on and putting it back on the rack? You know, it's got to be No.

Yeah, we went— my daughter turned 14, so I— we went shopping and she wanted some rugs and I found some clothes and I'm like, oh yay, because I really haven't had anything new in so long. And so I realized that if I take it home and let it sit for a few days, that I should be safe. And then I didn't want to spray it because I don't— what if I don't like it? But then they say you just return it. So you try it on, let it sit for— I think they say 3 days material. And then I tried it on, and luckily I have a good eye because I know how chunky I am, so I was able to buy the right food from the right chunky section. I gotta lose weight, I know that. My avatar is screaming at me, lose weight. But anyway, so, so, but it felt so good too to be out and like just buying things. I'm not even a shopper, and I just loved it.

I am a shopper, and I was like, ah, I need to get out there. But really, you know, and I'm very concerned that people are getting used to ordering on Amazon and, you know, ordering online, and, you know, we really want to push the message out there to buy local and go to local stores and local retailers, and a lot of them will, you know, you can shop online with them, but, you know, we really want to support our local retailers right now because that's just important, and the City of Port Orange is putting out a buy local message, you know, helping to promote. It's their campaign, and they've put together a little design and logo and that sort of thing for it. And I know that as soon as Daytona Beach Shores businesses open up, they're going to put on a buy local expo. And so, you know, we'll be doing different things to work with the cities to make sure that people have that message and remember how important our local businesses are. You know, they've been kind of tied down while some of the big, bigger stores, big boxes have been open. So we want to support them and help them remember they're the backbone of our community and, and they employ locally and we want to bring our business back to them.

So when we, when I first heard the $15 an hour, in essence, a $600 PUA. You know, it's interesting. I thought to myself, California, that, that would have been so— what, you know, that's what they're making now. But Florida, what's that going to look like? Yeah, but I never in a million years thought that so many people would not be getting their unemployment or have been somehow stalled, or maybe, maybe don't understand the system. And I've helped a few people, a few friends of mine that are self-employed, to make sure that they understand how to get on there. And to do it, you have to claim your weeks. And I, I follow a couple of Facebook groups and try to help them to say, you know, because some people are— they give up. And so it really is important because there may be someone— there's plenty of reasons to stay home, and, and there is a fear that I can understand going into work. I myself am compromised at not only my age but also my kidneys. I have the— my medullary sponge kidney, so my kidneys are filled with stones. So yeah, I'm passing a stone right now and I'm smiling.

How are you doing that?

I don't know, years of use to pain. But the reality is, you know, those that are working, they're very sweet, everyone, they're very kind. We want to make sure that we treat them kindly and that we respect their space too. And just, I just want to say that because I have The stores I've gone to have only had some of the nicest and sweetest people. And it's scary for them too. They're under— they're fearful too, because this is different. This is where we're bringing things home to our family. And my son was a soldier, 10 years in Afghanistan, Alex. And he said this is quite different. When he was out in the valley and he was being shot at by the Taliban, he wasn't worried about bringing that home to his children. But now, and his son is sick this morning with a fever, and so it's scary for families and parents. So just be respectful. But I want to thank the Chamber too for everything that you do. And really, you're— this Develop You series is wonderful, and it gives a chance for the presenters— thank you so much— along with those that are listening. But I really, you know, it's appreciating that opportunity too, that ability to be able to share what I love and talking about, you know, just doing things right. I'm not perfect, but I think it's important that we all have more respect than we've ever had in our life. We have to now think about our neighbors, and so many people are doing that. So many people.

Yeah.

How are your board meetings going? How— what is that like?

Well, it's been really interesting, um, because we are doing Zoom meetings, and, um, so we have to, um make sure that we've got the correct vote count and everything. You can't do a hand count and that. Just on Zoom, having a meeting where everyone feels available, I mean able to talk and say what they want to say. You always feel like you're going to be talking over somebody and you have the chat thing, but in a meeting, it's a little more difficult to navigate that, you know. So it's been different. We have one coming up this Thursday. We have a board of directors meeting and, you know, we've got— it's a tough time for the chamber and I hope that everybody understands we're having a tough time because— and our staff has cut down to 32 hours a week, which cuts our expenses by 20%. Businesses are making those decisions all the time. We have to do that, and we know that our members are— a lot of our members are struggling right now. So we're trying to be very conscious of how we do our finances and to keep our expenses down. And so we've gone to 32 hours a week. So we had to discuss things like that and how financially we will be responsible and deal with things because Most, like 50% of our income comes from events. So we have no event income coming in right now, none. So, and we don't even know when we're going to be able to plan. We had our, one of our big events, Tasteful Affair, was scheduled in April and we couldn't have it, of course. and we want to be able to do something even if we have to do it virtually, or where people go out to restaurants. We're looking at different ways that we can do things like that. So our meetings are very important right now as we discuss those types of ideas, and we've had a very active golf league. Our golf league is very, very popular, and the two men that run that, Frank Crooks and Chick Munhall, they're wonderful. And they, I know Chick has been out playing golf with my husband every week, so I know the golfers are out there playing golf, but how do we safely run the golf league because it's a shotgun start, which means they all start at the same time. Well, you can't do that right now at golf courses. You have to have one golf cart for every golfer. You know, so those are issues that we have to talk out. How do we do that and how do we do it differently so that people could continue to do the things they love to do and the chamber can help, you know, keep our events and activities going in a safe way. So, you know, there's a lot of discussions about how do these, do these types of things. We have a golf tournament coming up August 1st. We don't, we don't know whether that's going to work out or not. Our chamber directory, which we keep up to date online, We do a print directory once a year, and Ken Clark with Small Pond Advertising is doing that directory for us, did last year and this year, does a great product. But, you know, just selling advertising in that right now is very challenging. So, you know, we've got to talk about, you know, when we're going to be able to do that and get that publication out. You know, we've been sitting our directories outside the front door because we've had the doors locked while we've been working here. Those have been going like hotcakes before picking up Chamber Directory. So we're happy to see that that has a lot of great community information in it too, and a lot of different things besides the business directory. But, you know, we want to be able to produce that and do our Operation Thank You where we thank all of our chamber membership and get everybody together. And, you know, our chamber is— we're a great networking chamber, we're a great Building Relationships Chamber, and that's— it's just a different way to do things right now. We've got to look at how we can keep supporting our members and still be what we are.

I actually want to say something. I really want to thank you because I paid the extra $100 to supersize me. I don't know what it was exactly called, but it was fantastic. $100 really well spent. I would really encourage— I don't know if people realize that if you take the time, first of all, if you're paying for anything, do it correctly or just don't pay. I mean, at the end of the day, but if you do it correctly and, and the, the website really walks you through— right now it's amazing. If you go into the search engine and type out PPE, I pop up. If you type out writing instruments, I pop up. If you type out awards, I pop up. There's no reason everyone should do that. Why wouldn't you? And it's such a fair price, so If you haven't done that yet, you're just— it's an easy price. It's well worth what, $100 for the year of membership? It's amazing. It's amazing. It's a great highlight. And, you know, I wish I did it sooner, but I did it. But I'm glad to know it now. Now is the time for companies to look at their advertising. Exactly what I just said. You have to be prepared to get back to business. And not just because I sell promotional products, but every aspect of it. You know, Carol has a great paper, East Coast Current. Get your name in there. Look at every way that you could advertise. Your newsletters are fantastic. And you also, you're not a nickel and dime organization, you know, and I love that all your develop yous are wonderfully done and you're not charging for anything. I've seen some chambers charge to be part of the quarantinis and whatever it may be. And I love the fact that you are very fair, your prices are fair, and the people are really lovely. I really enjoy everyone and I'm excited to come back for more. I think now that I joined, rejoined myself under promoindustry.guru, I think that it's a good thing for me too. The speaking is great, but it's not, you know, I'm not going to go into any schools to speak anyways. But I was involved with the programs that they had through the CTE. The career program with the superintendent, Dr. Fritz. I love that. So I look forward to some meetings, but you're right, we don't know. I mean, you can't— I mean, what kind— that's so— I can't even— I'm speechless. An event planner that you can't plan because you have no idea what's in the future. Unbelievable.

It is unbelievable, and everybody's looking at ways to, you know, make it work, to do it differently. And hopefully, I mean, I'm I'm a little bit of a Pollyanna, and I really am hoping that, you know, during the summer things will start coming around again and we'll be able to see people in person. I'm an in-person person. I love hugs. I'm a hugger, you know.

And I love being with you in Tallahassee, by the way.

Yeah, I just, you know, I've been around this town for over 40 years, and so, you know, I— there are people that you know, I haven't seen for, for many, many years, or I only see periodically. And, you know, I just, you know, I, I love people, and I, you know, I'm just a hugger. So this has been very, very difficult for me.

It is. And you still have to continue that. And we're talking about maybe possibly pulling your hand over your heart, any way that you could say. But nobody should run up and hug someone because you really don't know what their situation is. Or even unless we're all tested, and even that we're not even sure Well, I, I wanna— I don't want to tell a lot of people about this, but I will let you know. I'm pretty positive I am going on a cruise August 3rd. No, August— yeah, 3rd through the 7th with my daughter. We're doing our girls cruise. She's 14. I'm being like, I'm being very positive. I will wear the mask, we'll be outside, but I feel like— I don't know, I feel like I'm going to just do it and see and see what happens. And, you know, if we made it this far along and we don't really know, I just, and I want to get the test, but I really, the nasal one kind of scares me because I don't like pain. I'm already in enough pain in life. But next time they come with a spit, I think they have the spit or the antibodies. I think that we all need to understand what it means to be tested, what happens when you're tested. And I don't know if you know that my son's in China. I have a son that lives in Shanghai. Oh my gosh, Sam, he has— I put on my Facebook page, it's called Set For Set, S-E-T-F-O-R-S-E-T. He sells Macy's lawn steel equipment. So on his cell phone, he's an orange, so he has like a barcode. And then if, if there's any contact tracing or if they find that he was with, they'll change it then. Um, and then he would be, you know, he's green now, then it would become orange, and then red means you have to go into a facility to be to be quarantined. So right now he's green, that's saying he can go anywhere, but they keep track of everything. But he is in China and he works out in the streets and he wears his mask. Wearing a mask is not unusual for the Asians. They, you know, they respect it and they respect each other.

Do they require them?

They're required to wear a mask and they've worn masks through age. They wear masks a lot because there's a lot of pollution. So that they were wearing masks for a variety of reasons. But I always think of my son Sam, if he could work out in the heat in a mask, I can definitely wear a mask when I'm walking around a grocery store. And, you know, but it was fun eating out. It is fun to get out and eat. So I would say that, you know, pick your restaurant, get out. Uh, Hula's is so sweet. Jimmy Hula's. Yeah. Thank him for doing Healthy Souls International. You know, Maria is doing an amazing job with what she's doing over in South Daytona in her warehouse, and I'm just so proud of her. And so all the restaurants that have contributed to helping raise money for her food drive is wonderful. So thank you for your time today. I really appreciate it.

This has been so fun.

I look forward to Thursday. So one more tip on Thursday. So one more tip, because I don't know if we're going to get to this. Ask your questions, by the way. No question is a dumb question, but we are going to want to focus. So when you are meeting someone new, it's going to be different. You won't have that handshake. So it's really important to make sure, and you may not be comfortable getting someone's business card, that may be, you know, paper product, and they may not be comfortable. So it's really important to really double-check how you spell someone's name. Debbie, oh, is that how you spell Debbie?

With an IE.

IE, okay. And Connor, so you really want to make sure, one way to stand out is take interest in how you spell someone's name. It's simple and easy. And also do that for your servers because you really want to be able to get onto Facebook or whatever, Google, and do a nice review and know the name of your server so you can thank them, especially for service during these days. So thank you, Debbie. Thank you for your time.

A little extra, tip a little extra right now. You know, they can use it.

Absolutely, absolutely. Most people, you know what, they're working, they want to go back to work, they don't want to be trying to wait for unemployment.

It's—

that is, you know, really we want people to be comfortable and safe. So you're right. And the whole washing your hands, it's interesting. You know what, it does make sense. And now I sing happy birthday to myself. So it's really, it really does. You know, I'm lucky we've been healthy. We don't get a lot of colds or anything. We just happen to have— knock on wood— but we just happen to have a healthy immune system, and I think that, that is good. But maybe it is because we really— I make everyone wash their hands, and I use a melaleuca product so that everything stays clean. I don't have to worry about things. So, but don't spray anyone with disinfectant, and no pouring bleach down your throat, please.

Good tips.

Thank you. All right, have a great rest of the day. Thank you for joining me.

Thank you.

Bye-bye. Thank you so much. That was awesome. And I'm going to stop the stream.