Live with Katie:
In this live YouTube interview hosted by Adrienne Barker, MAS, Katie McLaughlin, founder of Be Good Guide, discusses her unique business model that blends astrology, human design, embodiment practices, and corporate strategy to help solopreneurs build sustainable, soul‑led businesses. Katie explains how she left a corporate tech career in 2023, discovered purpose through self‑exploration, and created Be Good Guide as a flexible "guide" for people seeking alignment over algorithmic growth. She outlines her services—including 90‑minute strategy sessions, masterclasses, retreats, and longer programs—emphasizing a no‑homework, highly customized approach that uses birth charts and human‑design charts as a "cheat sheet" to tailor strategy, timing, and hiring recommendations. The conversation covers client demographics (primarily women in their late 20s‑40s, with a mix of astrology‑interested and non‑interested clients), marketing tactics (large reliance on referrals and manifestor energy), branding choices (cassette‑tape wall, chartreuse green aesthetic), generational considerations (Saturn return as a catalyst for change), and how Katie integrates her services with platforms like ChatterSocial. The interview also touches on the broader shift from industrial‑era business models to heart‑centered, individualized entrepreneurship, and includes audience questions about energy matching, client acquisition, and future program development. The session ends with plans to publish the interview as a chapter in a forthcoming book and to continue sharing Katie’s approach through live streams and community events.
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I can't see if we're live. We're live. Okay, so I am really excited. Yes. Yay. And you know what? I'm going to highlight your beautiful face, actually, because you are beautiful. So, Katie, I always say this, to be on the show, first of all, you got to be brave. I mean, you don't know me. I literally don't know you. We haven't met before. I saw a Be Good Guide when you connected, but I was like, I don't— I thought you were a guide, like a directory for all good things that can be done, like a nonprofit, Be Good. And I'm like, oh, I'm good every day, so I don't have to worry about that. But I realized, wait, probably not. At the end of the day, though, Katie, I really don't know who you are, but I do know you're brave. I know you're bold, and you're absolutely beautiful, and you have really fun glasses. So I love it. So first, let's introduce you to the live audience and our friends on ChatterSocial.
Sure. Hi everybody. I'm so happy to be here. I love doing, um, I love talking to strangers, so this should be, this should be great. Um, my name is Katie McLaughlin and my business is Be Good Guide, and I'm an embodiment architect and astrologer. Um, and so what that means is I, my, all my work is focused around helping build embodied business owners. And so What that means is instead of creating businesses where you're following everyone else's playbook, I help people turn inward and understand who they are, find clarity in their passion and their purpose, and then build sustainable businesses around that. So lots to dive into. And I'm just excited to be doing this. I don't think I've ever done a live podcast before. So I'm excited.
A live podcast that turns into a chapter in a great book.
Yeah, definitely. Definitely a first. Definitely a first. I love that.
All right. So let's talk about your name because it's an interesting name. Probably not my favorite company name, in all honesty. Part of me almost thinks it could be Be Good, like, be healthy, right? Like, I'm not good. I like donuts. So like, that would like not fall to me. But Reality, how long it was like, what made you choose that name? Did you— were you— did some people say to you it's not great? It is great. Like, what was the feedback in the beginning?
Yeah, when I first started this company back in 2023, I didn't really know what my services would be yet. At the time, I was leaving corporate America. It's funny that you mentioned Elon and X because I was working at Twitter and got laid off with thousands of other people. And I was in I had been working in tech and in media. I was doing product design for major companies and at scale and everything. And when that happened, I had already been sort of over that rat race and was like, I need to find something that I actually connect to from a purpose standpoint and that I connect to in that fulfills me, not just something that I'm good at that I can climb a ladder with. Right. So I I've had other LLCs before, so I was like, I'm going to create an LLC and I'm going to figure it out as I go along. But the core of what I started with was I really found a lot of clarity in my own self-discovery by looking at astrology, by looking at human design, by doing deeper sort of soulful work. And that connected all the dots for me between who I am and then that sort of like corporate level strategy and systems and tech and all the other things that I love. And so I I was like, I knew that I wanted to help people connect back to themselves and that I am lit up by talking to people about their businesses. And that was pretty much it. So I started with doing business astrology readings, and that felt too traditional to an astrologer. And I was like, I'm not— I'm an astrologer, but I want to do more with it. And so I purposely was like, I needed a name that can go with whatever flow that I'm going in. At the time, I was like, I just want to be good and I want other people to be good too. I want them to feel good about their business. I want them to feel good about what they're putting out in the world, about their purpose. I want them to feel clear. And so yeah, I went with Be Good Guide because I was like, I'm just going to be a guide towards people being just good. You don't have to be great. You just have to be you. So I would say that I did it. I don't know if I got a lot of feedback about the name in the beginning. I to. I'm a manifester and I have a lot, um, of planets in my 10th house, which means that I'm really designed to like go first and to do things differently, which generally means that I don't ask other people for their advice on things. If it's resonant with me, then it doesn't really matter if it, um, if it makes sense to other people, if that, if that makes sense.
I had to get back on camera because I like when you explained it.
I love it.
You know what I want to hear? Can you give me your whatever you call it, 10-second, 30-second elevator pitch. I just want to hear it.
Yeah. So, um, my whole movement is around alignment over algorithm. So I help, uh, people create sustainable businesses, um, based on who they are and their core essence and their energy and embodiment instead of chasing other people's formulas.
Okay, this is so interesting. So are you— so are your clients already those that back in the day would wake up, grab the paper, and look for, like, Cancer, this is my horoscope for the day. Okay, that was me. Just not to age myself because I know I look young, but I remember very clearly you would cut it out or I would cut it out and I would put it in just for 24 hours because it would change the next morning. They were always positive too. But so you're not reaching out of your community to find someone because I'm thinking you could probably find some naysayers. So is the majority of your clients kind of in your community?
It's a— I would say it's a pretty even split. I have some clients that are really interested in the astrology piece and some people that aren't. Because at the end of the day, I'm, I'm not— I can bring in the astrology as much or as little as a client wants. To me, that is a cheat sheet. So before I even get on a call with someone, I do 90-minute strategy sessions and they give me their birth information, whether depending on what they want to figure out. Say they want to figure out a launch strategy for a new offer in that 90 minutes. I will be looking at their chart for like what types of places would be resonant with their audience, who they should be talking to, things like that. I'm delivering that information. They don't need to, they don't need to know those placements unless it's something that they're interested in. So I use astrology and human design as, as to give me a leg up on understanding who they are and how they operate. And then I combine that with my corporate strategy and business background to give like really tangible, this is how we're going to operate. So, I mean, I have clients who do breathwork. I have graphic designers. I, you know, it's, it's a, it's across the board. It's not necessarily people who are super into astrology. I have, I certainly have clients who are. But I would say the core thread through everyone is that it's people that are trying to build businesses from a place of purpose or a soul-led business. It's their passion that they're doing. It's not just like, I'm doing this thing to make money. Their business is an extension of who they are. And so that's the common thread through all my clients. Yeah.
No, I like that. First of all, thank you, Jonathan. Hi, Reese. Thank you for being here, Shadow Fox. And if you're in the audience, just raise your hand. Please unmike if you have any questions, because this is fascinating and different. Shadow Fox, we had, we had another woman that did astrology, but this is so different because of the business. And I have to say that I believe, like, so we have Debbie. Debbie runs the morning chatter room on, on morning on Chatter Social. So Debbie has it every morning. Monday through Friday, she's running rooms. I met Debbie in person at CreativeCon. But the reason why I'm bringing it up is that at one point I was like, we are so alike. Like her thought process, how she does business. She's way more processed like than I am. But the core and then turns out, oh, she's a Cancer. I'm a Cancer. So I am definitely a believer in this. And I'm thinking in an interesting way, would you almost compare it to like giving a personality test to your client before you even go on the strategy call? Is that kind of—
Yes, 100%. It's a, it's a tool. And so I find that especially with astrology can be polarizing. I mean, we can, we can talk about like skeptics, not skeptics. There's a lot of people who are like, I believe in it, I don't believe it. It's not a religion, it's a tool. And then if it resonates with you, great. And if it doesn't, fine. Um, but I will say like the level of insight that I get looking at someone's chart is so much deeper than if I had their Myers-Briggs, if I had their Enneagram, if I had, you know, there's a lot of these type of personality tests. But, and I have my own archetype quiz that pops out an archetype that does connect to astrology, but you wouldn't know that from the test. So these are all tools that I use to tease apart, okay, how is this person showing up in the world versus like what does their internal landscape look like? Or how do they think about things? Or where, what tribes are they most comfortable in? Like where are they going What, who do they need to be surrounded with to, by, to like push their dreams forward or, or connect to their purpose? It, I mean, there, there are layers and layers and layers of specificity that go way beyond like your sun sign. And so that's where I really dig in and tease apart based on what the needs of the client are at the time. But yeah, I use it basically as a, as a really powerful cheat sheet so that from the moment that I'm talking to someone, I know whether to communicate that with them. Say they're a Virgo rising and they really latch on to details, like maybe they're going to want to know a little bit more about like what placement— like, how did I know that? What placement in their chart told them— told me that they like to, um, really be very like particular and organized about something, or that they like to speak in a more like nurturing, heart-centered voice. Like all of that, it can be very granular what I'm pulling from a chart.
That's really interesting. Okay, first of all, what is behind you? What, what is that pattern?
This is, um, their cassette tapes. Um, I made this when I, when I first moved to Nashville. It's just a wall of tapes.
Wait, really? It's not like fabric, like you could pull one out?
No, it's— yeah, like, see, one fell off up there. Like, they're physical tapes that are then on a, on a board. Yeah.
Wow. That's creative. Okay. I, I really can understand this. Do you need to know the birth time of day like that? What's what time they were born?
Yeah. So birth information that I need is their birthday. And then the exact time and location and time and location is what unlocks the house system. So from just a birthday, if I know the day and year, then I can tell you likely what sun sign you are. Now, if you're born— like, I have a really close friend who is born on the day that it transitions from Libra into Scorpio. Her birth time, she would always say, like, I'm a cusp. I'm like, no, there's a time you were born, and that will tell you. And I would, like, I would lay my whole life on the line if you are not a Scorpio. You are— there, there is no way you are a Libra sun. But there, it unlocks a whole bunch of other things. There's 12 houses, there's 12 signs. And the houses, the information that houses give you is like what sign is activating what area of life. And so you need the birth time to solidify what your rising sign is, and then that translates where the houses are. So if I didn't know my birth time, I would know that I have a lot of planets in Aries, which gives me that entrepreneurial edge. It makes me bold. It makes me, um, it makes me brave. It makes me courageous. It makes me, you know, say the thing, do the thing. Um, Now, I wouldn't know what area of life necessarily that shows up for me. I would know that that's a core part of my DNA. But knowing, because I have my birth time, I'm a Cancer rising, but I'm an Aries 10th house with lots in Aries. So that means that in the 10th house, all that energy is, A, in the most visible part of my chart. So that is outward energy. That's not like someone with a lot in Aries in a 3rd house who maybe is the bold one of their friend group or their siblings, but maybe not outwardly speaking on stages and creating businesses. Where for me, it means literally creating businesses, being publicly visible, being out there on stage, being out there on the internet, being— it changes the flavor of what it is.
You know what I like about this? I like the fact that we're all different. And we're going to look at your website in a minute, but I like I have a very neurodivergent brain, like, and, you know, I'm, and I'm getting older. And so I like the fact that someone would actually do this. So when they work with me, they maybe know I get very excited. I talk fast when I'm excited. And I also think there's times where I think I'm at the point now in life that when I'm talking to a new client, I could read the room. I can kind of read them and, you know, go with their flow. But I wasn't doing that in my 20s, and I surely wasn't doing that in my 30s. By my 40s, I was like understanding. I'd done a lot of leadership programs and I'm like, oh, okay, you know, mimic back. But I absolutely think this is brilliant. Let's look at your website so we can kind of get a feeling. I love doing this. Now, if you got things that aren't working, I have actually been— I've done this before where it's like, oh my gosh, I don't even have— it's the wrong phone number. You're not showing, Adrian.
Okay, so we've got everything should be working for sure. I was just in there today about it, my free, free customer journey map template. I launched that today.
Awesome. Awesome. Okay, so now the only thing is I've got to go back to my tab in order to show this. Okay, so we are going to— let me kind of get rid of this over here. Let's move that over there. No, no, making it worse. Okay, hold on. Darn it. Okay. All right. And then I wanna just kind of look at this. Oh, hold on. I'm gonna make this larger for chatter, but then I'm going to— I think I'm gonna try to go— oh, darn it. Okay. So let's look at it together this way. All right. So aligned support for solopreneurs. I like it. I, I, you know what this— I, I get that this is not for anyone.
Have you—
how many clients have you had? I'm just curious that, have said, you know what, interesting idea, but not for me?
I have never had anyone say that. I was just— I don't get— thank you. I don't get the hard no because most the depth and the breadth of what I do is so many things. That's why I start with a strategy session because we might end up talking about like your tech implementation of your systems. We might talk about your branding. We might talk about your offer ecosystem. We, we can talk about a lot of different things. So I find that people don't really get hung up on the— especially the astrology, because again, it's not so prevalent. Even on my website, I'm not talking a lot about astrology. That's one of the things that I— that's a tool that I use, but, um, it's really more about the embodiment and that and creating alignment for people in creating a business that is theirs and operates with their rhythm. So there's an undertone of astrology. Obviously, I've got a lot of like star graphics and like I'm referencing astrology and human design and tarot and I will channel during sessions sometimes. But it's not so— it's not about that. It's not like going to get a chart reading from someone. You're— the people who are working with me are not looking for just the information. They're looking for that like tactical, practical implementation or like what to do with it, if that makes sense.
I love it. Totally makes sense. I love that you're using photos of yourself, by the way. It's beautiful. And I see exactly what you're doing. It's so interesting. Would I be correct in saying that? Or I guess I'm going to ask the question so I won't say anything. Are most of your clients— what is the majority of clients? Are they mostly women? Are they men? Is it a 50/50 mix?
Mostly women, almost entirely women. I have one male client.
I love that, too. I mean, I think that I just— I love that this is for everyone and that you're, in essence, recognizing the different brains. Because, yes, if I'm working with someone that's really process-driven, like Adrian, everything you do needs to be written down and the whole process I'm probably not going to like that, so I'm not going to take that job. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'll need to find someone who's processed. If I'm working with someone— oh, I'm working with someone now, and it's very tough. It's not a pleasurable situation for me. So, but, but, like, I, you know, I think we all need to learn, like, you know, is it, is it worth it, right? Is it?
Yeah.
Or is it okay just for me to walk away, just take a couple of breaths and go back to it because they don't because they themselves work differently. And I think each generation is different too. So Katie, with your— with it, like, with your clients and looking at the generation, could you give me an idea? Are they, you know, and not even millennials, or— but are they in the 30s, 40s, 50s? Where are you seeing the age group for your clients?
Definitely, I would say like 30s or late, late 20s is really the earliest, um, which makes sense because around 30 is when you hit your Saturn return, which which is an astrological event that signifies when you start to create your own rules of living. And so before that, you're sort of operating by whoever, by the rules that you were raised with, basically. And so usually around 30 is when people have this like, wait, how do I want to live? How do I want to operate? How do I want to do things? And so that's when this type of work comes up. I will say that when I do events Because sometimes I'll do a tarot reading for events or astrology readings, things like that that are more straight up service-based. Then I'll get some younger 20s and then all the way up to 40s. Beyond that, when you get into 50s and up, I have programs that I want to develop for people more in the CEO leadership, more established business space. But right now I'm really focusing on people who are in their corporate jobs and hate it, but have a thing that they're ready to do or that they are called to do, that want to move into that, but maybe don't know how. And then all the way through beginning to scale. So maybe they have a couple of employees max, but they're looking to scale their business or make it more sustainable. That's sort of the area that I operate in right now.
Very interesting. Shadow Fox has a question. Shadow Fox, take the mic.
Well, hello, Katie. You know, I'm, I'm just grateful that you're out there and you're doing this work because the business paradigm has been shifting. And you're— yes. And for those who are still in the grandfather business, they're, they're just going to dwindle. And so it's good to see and it's encouraging to see you helping other business businesses in this, in this aspect, because many, many people are going into the heart-based businesses, or they're running their business from a heart-based perspective. And so, like, if there's entrepreneurs out there and, you know, the real go-getters, I'm going to tell you, you know, this— I'm— you're on to something. Thank you.
Yes. I mean, the shift in how we do business and how we operate is huge. Like, it used to be, OK, everything is, you know, factory-based. Everything, if you think back to the Industrial Revolution and how can we, you know, more output, more productivity, more everything. And there were like very specific rules that you had to follow if you wanted to, quote unquote, succeed. And now there's so many different versions of success. There's so many things that you don't necessarily need to learn yourself because we have tech advances that have helped sort of cut out that middleman. And we have a lot of people that are moving towards like connection is important, spending time with family is important and part of success, right? And so there's all these other things that when you're looking at your business, you're actually looking at your life. And you're looking at how do I want to operate in my life and how do I How can I make money doing things that light me up and how can I be in service to other people doing those things? And so there's not a rule book for that because everyone is individual. And so there's techniques that I use and there's activations and there's exercise and things like that that I will use across multiple different clients to help them get to a place of clarity. But their place of clarity and how they operate in those activations are going to be very unique to their energy, their blueprint, how they operate. Even coming down to like one example is at a very high level in human design, I'm a manifester, which means I initiate and I am a visionary and I go first. But that can also create a sense of like judgment. It's called the projection field judgment from other people. So I operate best in containers like this where I can— it's fairly closed that we're taking questions and everything. So I'm opening myself up for that to maybe let someone down on an expectation of me or something like that, but it's contained so that energetically I'm not immersing myself day to day. Right? This is like it has to stop at a start point and a stop point. Whereas for someone like me, showing up every day in a circle community or a Facebook group would be working against my energy. Right? That would be opening up way too many two-way conversations at the same time. So that's just an example of how how you're— you can operate differently in business, but still there's always a solution, there's always a strategy that will work for your unique blueprint.
I love that question. Thank you, Shadow Fox. So what is— oh, I'm looking at your, uh, LaBooBoo Craze is your fifth. What was this article about?
Um, so I do— every time there's a new season and there's a new moon or a full moon, I do a newsletter, but I do them weekly. So if there isn't major astrology going on that week that I can connect to business, I look at larger themes. And so this goes through how this LaBooboo craze is just a symptom of us craving this joy and this connection based on what the outer planets have been doing from the last— for the last several years. So the newsletter is more a astrology plus business-centric, uh, and but teases apart the astrology in a way that is like understandable to a human. Like, I'm not using— I'll talk about planets and placements and things, but you don't need to know that to be able to understand them, the message or the takeaway.
This is so interesting. But okay, so then, but you know what is interesting to me, really interesting, is that I don't. So you're not actually sharing. Let me see if this is it. I love all your photos. I see that you like, you're obsessed with efficiency systems, technology. But I think my, my, one of my questions would be, well, okay, what, where is your business, um, skills coming from, your business acumen? Like, I know you worked in corporate with CEOs, But like, where did you gain your business knowledge that you can lead someone in business?
Yeah. So, I mean, it's definitely a combination of corporate strategy and then also other entrepreneurial ventures that I've done myself. So I had a networking event series that I did here in Nashville 10 years ago. I opened a bar, so I had a physical location with employees, with products and things like that. Where we also did events. I also, outside of Be Good Guide, I throw an annual conference merging intuition and strategy and business. And so I've been around the block entrepreneurial. I had an Airbnb. I mean, the list goes on. I say that I'm only allowed to have 2 LLCs at a time. And that was the rule even when I had a full-time corporate job. So there has— oh, there's— I mean, I've been an entrepreneur since— when did I start my first modular art company? That was— had to have been in 2006, like 2006 or '07.
I love that. I, I almost like, like I was kind of looking for that information as I was going through your site, but I think you're so niched anyways that the people that are working probably have a good idea of who you are. Is referrals big business for you?
Yeah, referrals is huge. And then just people being in my energy. So again, a manifestor, my job is to initiate. My job is to show up. I'm going to say some things. I have no idea what I'm initiating in your audience, but I know that I am currently initiating people. There will be something that I say that then they think about or that impacts them in some way like that. Manifestors operate in a very initiate and magnetism sort of way, which took me a really long time to break out of that sort of corporate thinking of like, "Oh, I need to say explicitly, here's my skillset, here's my everything." There's a reason that my website is reinforcing the language that I use and that my social media is about what I believe in. And here's something that I implemented. And it's, it's more like showing when I feel the urge to show it, and then that carries through. So it's way more nebulous. And manifestors are only 9% of the population. So for the majority of people, like, I would not recommend my tactic of marketing.
Right. Right.
Very unique to my blueprint.
I love that. I love your creativity. I love that you do that. I, you're, you really are a, a creator to a creative, and I think that's fantastic. Is there anything that I, I did not ask you that you would like to share? I know you have your masterclass. Do you want to share about— you have your, your 90-minute session for $249. What would someone— what is that going to look like? Are they coming in empty-handed or do you give them a little homework to do before they—
There's no homework, which is my favorite part, because this is— and this is a— this is a service that any new client, this is the first entry point. And then once you go through one strategy session, then we'll talk about whether an additional strategy session is right, or maybe I do petite retreats, I do 8-week programs. I have a lot of different things in my toolkit that— So with me, there's always a tangible, tactical, practical outcome, something you can implement right away. And then there's always a next step. Now that next step, you could be like, I need to think about this for a year and then I'll come back. You may never come back. That's fine. But there will always be a next step of where to go deeper, how to continue work on. But no, there's no homework. There's a booking link where you pick the time and date that you want to book. I have a few questions, which are your birth information. And then I ask, what is your current challenge in your business? I put the link to my archetype quiz so I can understand your archetype. And then we kick off— I develop the curriculum or like what we're going to— the agenda for that session based on all of that, based on what you're trying to solve. And then I do whatever I need to do to understand your energy, your blueprint, how, how this is, you know, digging in. A lot of times I don't even look at someone's social media or I don't look at their LinkedIn. I don't need to do any research. I just need their birth chart and what they're trying to solve. And then the session could be The ones that lean more astrology, I tend to go in a lot more timing. People are asking about when things are going to happen, or— and I'll, I'll do some astrological timing of like, what era are you in? Why is the focus on this one thing when you're like trying to make it about another thing? And so that's more informational. And then I'll give some reflection exercises. And if it's more tactical, we'll, we'll co-work. We can do whiteboarding together. We can do maybe an activation or an exercise. So an example of that would be I had a client who has a, a coworking content studio, and we did a strategy session on how to increase— they're very new, so how to increase revenue based on sponsorships and partnerships. And so we talked about each of their events and like, what would people— what would be complimentary to the space? How would they vet sponsors? How would they outreach to sponsors? How would they integrate that into their business? So it can— again, it can be very— it can be very woo. It can be very not woo.
I love that. So you go— so you're just kind of answering a question. So I'm thinking, okay, so I'm working with you and I love working with you. And then I have a client and I'm like, oh, I really want to know and understand the client. Do you help me or do I just send the client a form and then give it to you? And you're like, okay, Adrian, this is how you would work with that client. How does it, like, trickle down?
Oh, so if you wanted like to understand how a potential client for you, their energy would work or how to work with them better, then I would do— I actually probably should make a separate service for that, but a strategy, we could do that in a strategy session. If it was like, I, you would need permission for their birth chart, or we would set up, um, maybe a, like a round robin where I would do a strategy session with them and then one with you. And so I could get their permission to share their blueprint information with you and maybe understand their problems and then understand. And then with you, I would work with like, okay, how do you work with this client through what they're needing from you in the most effective, efficient way? Because, yeah, a lot of the like synastry is what it's called, is when you look at two charts together, like how people would, would operate together. So I can do things like help someone understand who they should— what energy types they should hire. So like, I'm a manifestor. When I hired a VA OBM, I was like, I need a generator. I need someone with consistent energy. I need someone— like, I had a whole laundry list and I found the perfect OBM that is like my perfect complement. So I can do reports. I can do live stuff. It's— yeah, it's so bespoke. So it's very nebulous.
I understand. No, no, I do understand. I think it's great. And I think that It's definitely something that should work. My cat Gabby, stop it. Oh my. Okay, Jonathan, did you have any questions or Reese?
No, I just wanted to say that I clearly love Katie because she does a lot of what I do with the sense of helping business people to figure out how to do it their own way. And I think that's so important. So I appreciate it and enjoyed the interview.
Oh, thank you. You know what's funny is Jonathan actually taught me about story selling and how he taught me, and that's why I was thinking like, oh, for you, if you find like people talking about astrology, astrology and have a business, that's like where I kind of asked that question at the beginning, Jonathan, because I was like interested, like, wait, are you like, you're like, LinkedIn wouldn't be the best spot for you to find clients unless you were looking for other people that believe in astrology but don't— aren't combining the business with it. So kudos for you for taking two important things and putting them together. And I do have my Enneagram, but I can't remember, but I think I was like a 7 and a 2. It definitely made sense when I looked at it. And I think a lot of the personality tests make sense, but also what's happening during that time, right? So I've taken personality tests that have evolved. First, I was always like, oh, you are an extrovert. And then as I started getting older, it's like, um, you have introvert tendencies. I'm like, oh my God, I do. So I think there's a lot to knowing ourselves and then reflecting on that.
And then, well, and the evolution, right? Like, so you were speaking to evolution of a test, but like, that's why like a, like a Myers-Briggs, I'm an ENTJ, but if I take it 20 years from now, am I still an ENTJ? Like astrology accounts for that because there's your blueprint, but also the transits and how current timing and everything. Is the impact. So I, I like that it's, um, both Human Design and astrology I use because there's, there's not just this is what you are, this, these are the rules of who you are. It's like, here's your flavor, here's your energy, and then here's how that changes over time in these different eras that you are in based on these. It's all cyclical and it's all patterns.
I like that. I also like the fact that before you work with someone, that you could see if that partner matches your, your rhythm, for lack of better words. So I love that too. Well, I really appreciate you're here. So, and thank you too, Ahmed. Thank you for coming in. Rebecca, Annalee, um, our Jonathan, you're so awesome. Jonathan's, he's amazing. Um, and Rhys coming all the way from the UK. Really appreciate you guys. And thank you. So what's gonna happen next is that, first of all, this is gonna be published quickly because I'm doing, like, a 15-day drop. Every day I'm doing a drop. So, and that's for so that we can get this book, which will be the same cover but a different color. I'm thinking, like, the color of, like, your, your sweater looks like a greenish color. It's pretty. Oh my God.
Like, a chartreuse green is, like, everywhere. It's in every branding for any project that I do.
I love that. I noticed that right away. Your branding, your photos, absolutely stunning. I love what you're wearing. I just— you just look so great. You're a beautiful woman. And so thank you. So you're brave, you're bold, you're beautiful, you're brilliant. You got all the Bs going on. So thank you so much for your time and energy today. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. You are welcome. Let me end the livestream. Thank you guys for watching, showing up. Thank you so much for Chatter Social. And Katie, if you wanna come on Chatter Social, it's chatter, C-H-A-T-T-E-R, social.io, little bubbles, and check us out. We— Jonathan does amazing rooms, like, incredible. Oh, I think Jonathan's on his 195th workshop this year. Wow.
That's a lot.
Oh, maybe, maybe it's more. Maybe it's more, Jonathan. I don't know. He, he does sometimes 2 to 3 a day. So Wow.
I have no idea what the number is. I've just— I show up and help people out. That's all.
You are amazing.
A lot of times.
Well, if you're using ChatGPT to come up with your workshops, then you can ask it how many workshops you've done. It's pretty incredible. You really are, like, volunteering your time, and Jonathan has some great things. Alright. So, Katie, thank you so much. You are awesome. I Wasn't sure about Be Good Guide, but I actually like the name, and it— and I can spell be, I can spell good, and I can spell guide. So it's not like Professional Global Etiquette where etiquette people get tripped on the word etiquette, and then they never go to my website. So thank you so much. Have a great rest of the day. I'm gonna end the stream right now.
