How I "Hacked My Home": EMF Shielding, Grounded Floors, Protected Bedroom, The Healthiest Lighting & Much More with Brian Hoyer (Best of LIFE Network's Experts!)

This Life Network replay takes you inside my EMF-shielded home with building biologist and Life Network featured expert Brian Hoyer, one of the top building biologists in the world. We unpack everything from shielding paint and grounded floors to flicker-free lighting and low EMF saunas. If you want to create a safer, healthier home, Brian's insights are pure gold. Full show notes are at BenGreenfieldLife/LNBrian as in Life Network Brian. Let's dive in. And to learn more, you can also visit joinlifenetwork.com. My guest is a repeat guest. He is the man, one of the greatest building biologists in all of the land, one of the few guys who can actually understand and decode all this stuff and blows my mind with his body of knowledge whenever I talk with him. Mr. Brian Hoyer from Shielded Healing is here with me. And Brian is going to be taking us on a tour because he was my right-hand guy when it came to asking about the right light bulbs and the right wiring and how to have internet throughout the house without Wi-Fi, all this stuff. So prepare to have your minds blown in a good way. All right, ready to do this, Brian?

Let's do it, man.

I don't even know what you handed me to hold here before we started.

That's just a prop, it's not even real.

Okay.

No, no, this one's an RF meter.

Yeah, in case I overheat. That's RRF. Yeah, radio frequency. Okay.

So this is measuring, uh, all the wireless transmitting frequencies that travel through the air from Wi-Fi, cell phone towers, radio towers, Bluetooth, your devices, things that are connecting and sending information wirelessly.

Okay, got it. But you have, you have like a bagillion other meters here. Do we literally use all— like, when you're a building biologist and you're going through a home build or an existing home, are you using all of these or are they redundant?

Uh, I've found that some people just have like a, a lot smaller collection of meters, but over time I've found out that I need redundancy because sometimes one meter will be starting to run out of battery or it's sensitive in one range but not in another range. Gotcha. And so I've collected these over the last like 8, 8 or 9 years and come up with like, I don't want any blind spots. And the blind spots I know about are ones that I've tested and rented other equipment for, for a period of time.

Okay. All right, cool. So before we actually go through, because this is going to be kind of field trippy as we go through the home and you talk about the different things that we've done in each space, I would love to kind of strip things down to the foundation— full of puns today— and talk about like the walls and the floor, because I know over here you have laid out some of the stuff we, we built in. Yes. So Let's check this out first, 'cause if you're building a home from the ground up and you have the option to do some of this stuff, and I know some of it you can do in an existing build as well. These are some of the things we use. So let's go through this.

Yeah, so one of the basics that we use in doing home build consults and anything that's related to protecting your home ancestrally, making your energetic environment more like the environment of our ancestors, has to do with grounding and shielding the modern frequencies. So one of the basic things we do in the bedrooms is we do shielding paint. I don't have the shielding paint here. It's a black paint that we get from Germany. Okay. And it's conductive. It's made of carbon black and graphite. And that paint is actually grounded with a conductive tape on the wall. And this goes right into the electrical, what they call equipment grounding conductor of the home.

Now some people might not know what it means when you say you're grounding the paint. Walk me through how that is beneficial.

Yeah, so that's beneficial because in most homes, not this home because we wired it differently, but most homes when we're, we're trying to fix the problem that we have with electricity in a typical home, it has unshielded Romex wiring, just a rubber sheath over the electrical wires and there's no metal around it, there's no grounding around it, and electricity goes— it goes to the lowest potential and the quickest path to ground. Okay. So grounding we can actually use as shielding. So we're reducing electric fields, like Ben said, he said EF. So there's some terminology that we might be using during this podcast where we talk about EF, electric fields, MF, we could refer to that as magnetic fields, Those are both the low-frequency portions of the spectrum, but we use this grounding tape to ground the paint. That will block, essentially block in a normal house with Romex, it blocks all of the electric fields and just drains out through the walls and the ceiling wherever there's wires behind the drywall.

Now if somebody has a home and they use the metal shielding around the wiring, do they still need the paint?

They don't need the paint to shield the EF, the electric field, but they still would need it to block the wireless radiation.

Okay.

And that's the— that's why we love using the paint, is because we're creating a Faraday cage in the room to— and because it's grounded, it's blocking the electric field. And because it's metal, it's reflecting away and also absorbing some of the radio frequency and not allowing it into your interior space.

So in a home like this, do you only focus on painting the bedrooms?

Typically, it depends on the, you know, the customer's preferences. Okay. Some people don't want any signals in their house whatsoever. Others want to, when they have guests over, guests over, they want them to be able to get cell phone reception in their house.

If I'm like walking around this living room that's next to the kitchen here and I want to make some phone calls that I wouldn't be able to make in my bedroom, I might not want that area of the home painted. And then there's also the fact that the one time of the day, arguably, my nervous system is getting a chance to repair and recover. Is the bedrooms. That's the place where you place the most focus on—

Exactly. Yeah, that's when your body is supposed to be in that deep parasympathetic state. You're— there's these dormant healing responses that many people have never experienced to the full extent that they can be experienced because they've not even slept one day without wireless radiation or electric fields or magnetic fields. And so our goal with what we're doing is to create an environment where your body can actually heal and recover optimally, not just 60%, not just 40% or 80%. We want it— we want you to have this optimal environment for healing where your body's not perceiving all of these stressors, right, while it's sleeping, right?

It's like when I travel, I'm very cognizant of making the hotel room as dark as possible, right? So I'm using the whole, like, you know, uh, curtain hangers on the curtains and sleeping mask, and I travel with even, like, black electrical tape to cover everything up. Sometimes I got to call engineering to get them to turn the temperature down. Yeah. So that they override the normal room temp. I take all my sleep supplements. I'm, you know, I play my sleeping noises. I do my breathwork. And yet there are some hotels where I still sleep like shit because basically I'm still getting exposed to that Wi-Fi router that is maybe installed like right behind the headboard of the hotel room or whatever.

Yep. Yeah. And that's, that's the key, is that if you, if you're looking at this as a continuum of like Okay, when I cover up these things with these lights with black electrical tape, that's going to improve my sleep by 10%. When I have my sleep mask on, it's going to improve it by another percentage. When I unplug the lamps near the hotel bed, that's going to improve it by another 20% or something. Yeah. So like, if you're looking at it like, okay, home, I'm there every single night. And especially with kids, this is super important because it's hard to get them to take a lot of the supplements, especially when they're younger, and to do all the things related to health. But it's really easy to go ahead and shield their bedroom. Yeah. And then they go to, they go to sleep in that bedroom every single night. Automatically they're getting 8 hours of healing, grounded, protected energetic therapy every single night.

Yeah, much better than giving your child Valium. Um, okay, so, so we've got this thing you do with the paint. You ground the paint, which is super cool. And then what's this one?

So this is a floor shielding called CopperSubShield that my company developed. And basically this goes underneath the floor and then it's grounded with this tin copper grounding braid. And this goes onto that to ground the floor and then, and then goes into the electrical outlet to ground it. So this can be put underneath any type of floor basically. Yeah. And you have hydronic heating.

Exactly.

Yep. Yep. And so we had to like put this under and then the glue seeps through and we were able to make it adhere to that. And then it goes up like this on the side of the baseboards and overlaps with the paint.

You took videos of this a few months ago, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to embed those in the show notes because obviously we're filming this after the floor has been completed, but Brian came a few months ago. So if you guys want to see what this looks like when it's laid out over an uncovered Complete Floor. I'll put those in the show notes, you can see those videos. So basically, do you do that just on the ground level, or does every single floor of a house, if it's a multi-story house, have the ability to be like grounded even if you're on the second floor?

Yeah, every single floor. You know, even in condos we do grounding like that.

Yeah, yeah. So when I'm up in my bedroom and I get out of my bedroom and put my feet on the ground, I'm grounding.

You're getting grounded energy from—

assuming I'm not wearing my Skechers to bed.

There will be a little bit that's insulated because you have wood right on the top, but it's basically like you're walking on wood chips out in the forest.

Yeah, it's incredible. Incredible. So again, back to living naturally in a modern environment. You can be grounding and earthing without going outside like a dirty barefoot hippie all day. Yep. Amazing. Okay, so what's this one?

So this is another more affordable grounding and it has more perforations in it. And we use this underneath tile, like if you need to have some thinset to soak through, or sometimes we'll have, sometimes if people don't want to do the painting, they'll put this behind the drywall and we ground it with the same braid this way. But basically this is like a grounding mesh. We call it TerraMesh.

Wow. Okay, cool. So you got the option between the TerraMesh and the copper.

Yeah.

And this is a little better.

Copper's a little better because it blocks the wireless. In a much more robust way. Shields. Oh, I didn't know that. It's shields and grounds. This just grounds. It does provide some shielding, but not nearly as much as this stuff. I mean, this is what they use in hospital, like MRI rooms, and to shield those and create a bubble.

By the way, Ben, like, we're only a few minutes into this podcast, but I joke with my friends, like, I don't want to leave my house because I feel so amazing here. Like, I was in India for 2 weeks and I got home a few days ago and my sleep scores are already like 95. This is the best house for sleeping, period. Awesome. Awesome to hear. And, I've obviously slept in a lot of cool places. So, amazing. Okay. So, what else do you want to move on to next as far as the things we can show and tell here in the kitchen?

Yeah. So, this is a product that I actually developed with my new company, The Shielding Shop.

Safe Charge USB outlet. Yes. So, what's this do?

So, this one, We've engineered it so that the USB ports are actually grounded. Oh. And normally—

Is that usually not a thing?

It's normally not a thing, yeah.

So usually the grounding plug is this bottom plug that's going to be connected to the ground via the wiring of the house. But if you have the need for a USB cable that's built in, that USB cable doesn't have the same grounding.

Exactly. Okay. Yeah. So we've engineered it and gotten it ETL approved. So that follows all the NEC, the electrical, National Electric Code codes and everything.

Okay.

And these are installed near your bed so you can plug your phone in right next to your bed in an outlet. You don't need a charger or anything and it's not going to create any electric field radiation to your body.

What if I just use like a 3-prong USB charger and plug the phone into that? What's better, to go into the USB cable into the outlet or doesn't matter at that point?

That is a great question, and I'm glad you asked because I'm going to show you something. This was not planned, by the way. Uh, I'm going to give you one of your gifts now.

This is obviously very— like all my interviews, rough and unscripted.

Okay, I got—

I got— that's why I don't have the top podcast. We just make shit up as we go.

Um, okay, so I've got some, uh, housewarming gifts. We'll open the rest of these after, you know, at the end. Yeah, but I want to give you this one now.

All right, so you want me to open this?

Yeah, go ahead and open.

All right, all right, folks, welcome to opening presents with Ben. Um, normally when I open a gift, I rip off all the paper violently, but because I'm on video, I got to be respectful. And do I need to read the card first, or—

there's no card.

Okay, good, because I hate that.

No mushy stuff.

Sorry, I like to move on straight to the good stuff. Okay, so what do we got here?

So this is a brand new product that— oh my God, just released.

Oh, it's a— is this like a USB charger with 3 prongs. Oh, thank you, man, you thought of everything. Thank you, sir.

Okay, yeah, so this is the actual safe charger. Those other ones are outlets you can install, your electrician can install in your house. This is— oh, sweet, it grounds.

So you got 3 US normal USBs, USB-C, and it's grounded? Yeah, incredible. Wow, so I can be charging like multiple devices and everything's grounded because this is not a 2-prong, it's a 3-prong. Exactly. And most of them are two-prong.

Yeah.

Yeah, dude, I love it.

And I'll show you the difference here because there's— there are three-prong USBs out there.

Okay.

But, um, you can see this is three-prong. Yeah. And it's got USB in it.

Okay. Is this— this big white thing, is this yours?

No, this is just a random thing I got from the store.

Okay.

But it's— it's got all kinds of electric fields.

So it's like red level voltmeter.

Yeah. So sometimes people will have this like plugged in right next to their bed charging their phone. Yeah. And it's creating a body voltage that's, that's like extremely high. Okay.

Now if we just— you may take this one out.

Yeah, well, let's just— let's do it. Uh, yeah, we can take this out.

Okay.

So when you plug it in here, so this one, yeah, I'll use the same cable, plug it in here, and there's nothing.

My goodness. So if it— but it doesn't need to be plugged into this, right? Can I unplug this and plug it straight into the outlet here? Yep. It's even lower. Yeah, dude, that is sick. Yeah, I mean, the kind of things I get excited about— this is the kind of stuff I get excited about, dude. Incredible. Thank you. What an amazing gift. My sleep scores are going to go from 95 to like 99 now. Wow, super cool. Oh my gosh, okay, this is good to know.

Yeah, and that's, and that's the same technology that's in your— the ones that are in your wall too.

Yeah, yeah, this is built into the wall right now in the bedroom, but if someone didn't have that built in, that would be a really good—

yeah, you can just use that. And actually, the other—

I'm gonna travel with that.

Yeah, yeah, it's great for travel. Um, the other one— that one's called the Hub model. The other one is called the UltraMac model.

Oh, it's two different ones in here?

There's two different ones, yeah.

Oh, okay.

So this other one is—

knife—

here, we do the knife thing again. This other one is, uh, called the Ultramac, and I called it that because it's— you can charge like your Ultrabooks or MacBooks with it.

No way!

And it grounds—

oh my gosh—

it grounds it. So you plug it right into the USB-C. Sweet. And you can, uh, plug— it's a 63-watt charger. It's— they're both fast chargers, by the way.

So gosh, this is, this is cool. Wow. Okay, by the way, I think, um, again, we didn't plan this out very well, but I think I have some kind of a discount code people can use at your shop. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll put it— I'll put that in the show notes. Um, awesome, dude. Wow. All right, well, I'm already pretty excited. Okay, cool. Okay. So, and then we've got this. Obviously, this is kind of a different category. It's lighting. We should show people what this does. Oh, yeah.

We're going to show this.

Should we use— I think I can use this. So we talk about lighting, right? You want circadian-friendly lighting. Obviously, as I've talked about on other podcasts, even Brian and I talked about this in the last podcast that we did. Ideally, as much natural bright light, including the blue light spectrum and all the spectrums during the day with as little flicker and EMF as possible, and then absence of those bright lights that suppress melatonin and can disrupt your sleep as the day progresses into evening. So, this light, let's see, I flip it on. Okay. So, I'm going to flip this kitchen light on once. This is one of those houses where I just moved in a few weeks ago, so I'm still learning which— Okay. So go ahead and shine or put the camera on that light so you can see how bright it is. You see that? What is that you're holding up, Brian?

This is a light spectrometer.

Okay.

So you can see that's the light that this light is producing actually. Is, you've got the blue spectrum and you want blue light during the day.

Yeah.

Because that helps you build serotonin. Yeah. And so you've got that and it's got a lot of red though as well. Now what it's missing is the infrared, which we're going to address later. We haven't installed all the bulbs in this room yet.

Okay.

But what's really nice about these is they are adjustable. Most LEDs like these—

So I'm going to flip this off. Okay, I'm going to flip the light off, and then all I'm going to do is flip it on again, and it changes. Okay, so now—

So now we've reduced all that blue light to a nice warm—

And this would be like around like 4 or 5.

Yeah.

Kind of twilight-ish. Yep. Okay, and then this is cool. That ain't all, folks. You turn it off again and then turn it on.

And now it's orange and we're going to have a little bit of blue light because we have natural light coming in.

But normally that's coming in from the windows.

Yeah. So, but normally it's all the way.

No, this is like blue. What's time for bed when you're having dinner, 8 PM, whatever. Then you've got relative absence of blue light and now you're moving into the red light.

But you said not the infrared spectrum, not the infrared, which is why we want to add some incandescents, which we're going to add, right?

That's, that's that beautiful chandelier. My wife's going to flip out that we're filming an unfinished chandelier, but this one will have the infrared. So when you're dining in the evening in the Greenfield home, let's say it's— pretend it's like 7:30 PM here— we'd have these lights on red mode, and then to get as close to kind of like a sunset-ish type of full red light spectrum as possible, The chandelier will use infrared. You have an example of what that looks like. Yeah, I've got a little— which Trump just made far easier to get, I think, allegedly. I don't want this to get all political.

There were loopholes already. Yeah, I mean, I was planning on incorporating some of these. I'm actually— this is a brand new prototype of a chandelier bulb that I'm designing.

So we'll, uh, super cool. And that one's infrared. This one's infrared.

It's actually halogen.

So when you hear about infrared, we're talking like 6 50 to 820-ish nanometers.

Yeah, well, it starts around 7—

700.

Yeah, 650 to 700. So this is the light, this is the orange lights above, and then you'll see like this is what a halogen light does.

Oh, so now we're all the way up into the higher spectrums. So that's 736, 807, 8—

yeah, all the way up to 950.

950.

Yeah, so essentially, and it goes beyond that too.

The idea is we're exposing our body to as natural a spectrum of light frequencies as possible while indoors.

Yeah, this— and this measures where that stops. So this is a power meter like you'd use in a, you know, on a, on a red light panel or whatever for, you know, yeah, irradiance. So this is watts per meter squared, and you can see like how many watts you'd get from, you know, we're up to 200. But in the house, we're not getting anything from these LEDs. Right. So when we combine them, you can see we're getting more close to what the spectrum of the sun would be. Yeah. So what I want to show you guys—

I think a lot of people don't realize this— just because you add red lights to a sleeping area doesn't mean you're getting infrared, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So I want to— what I want to show is like, let's compare this to nature. That's what the whole, the whole business is all about anyways. Like, we're trying to get more ancestral to awaken these dormant healing responses in the body and trying to match the inside environment with what we experience.

When you say compared to nature, I mean we could take these meters outside? Yeah. You want to do that?

Yeah, let's do that.

Cool, let's do it. All right, here we go.

So what I want to show here is— okay, I'm going to retake the reading outside. You can see we're getting like 450, 470, 500 watts per meter squared. This is 1,000 to 1,700 nanometers on this meter. And this one you can see, I mean, we could go inside again and probably get a better—

That screen will stay up if we go inside, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, let's go inside. There we go. Wow.

You can see it's just straight across. It's got all the infrared balanced with the blue. In nature, we always have blue with infrared. Yeah, blue can— blue and UV can be oxidizing by themselves. That's why in the tanning bed you can get burned a lot easier than you do.

Yeah, outside.

Yeah, especially if you're avoiding seed oils and doing all the proper, you know, fatty acid balancing. Um, yeah, and getting the light exposure in the morning. Yeah, you know. Yeah, then you're getting the red light in the morning.

Why some of these light panel companies are now doing like infrared, red light, and UVA, UVB. Yeah, all together. Actually, they have one of those in the office now I've been messing around with, so Amazing. Yeah.

Wow. Now what a lot of people don't realize is they think, oh, I've got plenty of natural light. I'm getting a lot because it's, you know, I've got all these windows and you've got a lot of windows in the space and you're getting a lot of natural visible light, right? But it is blocking the infrared. So this is the reading from outside.

Even windows will block the infrared. Now watch what it looks like outside. So pretty much you were standing just outside that door.

Yes.

So this is going to be pretty similar to what you would have been getting right outside that door. But now you're showing what happens when you introduce the window. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

So like it basically—

so windows act like basically like high red light spectrum frequency sunglasses.

Exactly.

Even though they don't— it looks totally clear, like you wouldn't know that unless you measure that with a meter. That's crazy. Yeah. Especially when you consider like driving in your car outside and this has sun coming in through the window. Yeah.

And this has the higher spectrum infrared. You can see we're getting about 10 watts per meter squared on this. But if we open up We're getting 550 without—

you just can't compete with God. No, we can't. Light piece.

Geez. I mean, the sun, you know, all the things that we do inside to try to help improve it. Yeah, like it's the bare minimum of what we can do.

The sun is so powerful, even on a cloudy day.

Even on a cloudy day, you're getting so much infrared.

Wow.

So, but, but at least we can try to mimic it as much as possible. And that's what we've done here with this baseline structure of flicker-free. We haven't talked about flicker yet, but flicker-free, uh, lighting that doesn't have a lot of blue spectrum, or you're experiencing, uh, the blue at the right time of day, and you have the ability to adjust it right at the light switch.

Yeah, quick question about flicker. We briefly talked about this in the last podcast, the idea of lights to flicker and cause this low-level retinal irritation that can result in brain fog and disruption of sleep rhythms, etc. Right. I, I have OLED for my televisions, and I heard that's lower flicker. Is that true at all, do you think?

It depends. Like, I've tested some that are like really good.

Yeah.

And then there's some TVs that like— it really depends on the hardware.

Like, you have a flicker tester here? Yeah.

Oh yeah, we could test this.

Test flicker and super fancy OLED television upstairs. We should test it. Yeah.

Okay, we can test that.

Cool.

For sure. So here, let me just test the sun real quick. It's hard because it's so— there's no flicker in the sun. That's a straight line across the top, probably kind of hard to see, but it'll— I'll get my other meter here in a minute and we'll show you again. And let's see, so these lights right now—

oh, this one right here is measuring flicker.

Yeah, that has a flicker meter.

What's this meter called? Like, can people, if they want to, like Just buy that online?

Um, no, I don't know where they sell it. I got it directly from the manufacturer in China, and, uh, yeah, I guess you can go to hopoo color.

Hopoo color.com.

Hopoo color.com. Yeah, they probably do sell here. Yeah, but I think it's, it's around a toilet manufacturer, $1,500 to $1,800 for this meter.

Oh my gosh, it's not inexpensive.

And then let's see, where's—

that makes me appreciate this full lineup of meters a little bit more. Yeah, because of that.

Jeez.

All right, what's this one?

So this one measures flicker as well. This actually measures a lot of different things.

Electric, 5G, flicker.

It measures wireless radiation. You can see we're not getting any flicker here. Now what's ironic about this spectrum analyzer is that it has a really high frequency of flicker on the screen. Oh, so that's what that That's why it's a high sound because it's kind of ironic that the flicker meter has high flicker on the screen.

Yeah. Yeah. Do that when, when you see all of these like overlays that you can put on an iPhone or like filtering paper you can put on a computer monitor, do those just block blue light or is there a way to block flicker by placing an overlay over top of the screen?

Do you think there's, there's not really a way to block flicker because if you can imagine having sunglasses and somebody having a strobe light in your face, The intensity of the light would be reduced, but the strobing would still be an issue. Yeah, the strobing is still— exactly. Yeah, so you can— and, and like sunglasses around flickering light can help because it does reduce the intensity like you just said. Yeah, but you still can't completely eliminate flicker with that. It has to be in the hardware. Um, even some of these apps like Iris, they can't really reduce flicker.

Yeah, yeah, Iris is great. If you guys haven't heard of Iris, I've got it installed on all my computers. It will kind of reduce the color temperature and allow you to play with the monitor settings. You can even set it and forget it to kind of dim things depending on whatever area of the world you happen to be on if you have location services on. But doesn't do flicker.

It doesn't do flicker. But a few years ago, I, you know, you asked for a recommendation on computer monitors. Yeah. And we talked about that, and I think you ended up getting like a BenQ or—

BenQ and EIZO, I think, were the two. EIZO. Yeah, which is still what I have out in my office. Okay.

Yeah. And those ones have what's called EyeCare technology. Yep. So, uh, there's— Acer has EyeCare technology as well, and so does Asus.

Okay.

So, but you have to look for that EyeCare technology to get the flicker.

And probably that new company, uh, Daylight. They— all they're making right now is an iPad, but all it does is draw the light from the ambient environment. I did a podcast with them. I'll link to it in the show notes. But they make iPads that are like flicker-free, low EMF, low blue light. That's what I use instead of a Kindle. Now for my nighttime reading. That's great. So we talked about the flooring, we talked about the walls, we talked about some of the lighting strategies. What are some of the other things that we want to move on to here as far as the, the cool little things you, you had us build into the home working with the builder and, uh, and the architect?

Yeah, let's talk about that. So we also need to talk about the electric fields. We did talk about the electric fields, but let's demo the electric fields. 'Cause just like we— just like I showed you with that charger, like that's what's happening in the rest of normal houses. And even this house, like when you plug something in, there's gonna be an electric field coming out of that device. So when you ground the floors, it creates it so that it creates a situation where the voltage from a device that's plugged in, like this air filter here, is going to come out. But because the floor is grounded, or if it's near a wall that's grounded, it's going to almost like attract that electric field away from this other space, this other area.

Okay, so that makes sense.

As you get close to something that's plugged in, you can hear that, that buzzing sound is the 60 Hz.

And that is the electrical field?

That's the electrical field, yeah.

And is that an issue?

Well, if we're out here, we don't really have any exposure to it.

Is there like something that you could plug that into between it and the outlet to lower that?

The issue is the cable.

Okay.

So, um, so if we look at this cable though, there might be a— let me unplug.

Do they sell, I'm assuming, like shielding cables that you could use as alternates for devices like this?

Yeah, yeah, I actually sell those and have engineered those on my website.

What if some of these— of course you have— what if, what if some of these are the type of— oh, because I was going to say, what about something that you could like wrap around the cable itself?

We've got that too. I just, I just actually— this is brand new news, I haven't said this to anybody or announced this anywhere, so we'll do it on your podcast. Okay, I just bought the ElectroHealth company. What's that? ElectroHealth is an EMF company, and they, they sell like this little sheath that goes around cables.

Oh, incredible. Yeah, so we could basically go to all the little biohacks in the house that didn't come with cables like this and either replace them with the shielded healing cables or use the wraparound stuff. Yep. That's amazing.

All right.

Yeah, noted.

This one's called—

I'm adding that to my list of things to do.

So it's called a C5 or a Mickey Mouse plug. And, uh, because it looks like Mickey Mouse.

Yeah, yeah.

But, uh, yeah, you just replace this. I've got a white one on the website right now.

Easy.

Order it after.

Noted. So basically, if somebody has a bunch of stuff plugged in, even if they've got like a shielded home, they want to take into consideration all that stuff they might be putting into the home afterwards. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, basically we want to continue the shielding out in any area where there's cables or electrical going towards your body.

Blenders, toasters, anything.

Yeah, yeah, those like blenders and toasters and stuff are less important, especially in your situation where you have like, um, you know, them on the wall and like if there's a ground running temporarily versus something like a standalone HEPA filter.

Yeah, it's kind of on all the time.

Yeah, what we definitely want to avoid is like, like say this, this filter or, or there's a, a lamp plugged in next to the couch or something.

Okay.

—then that's going to be buzzing.

Something constantly plugged in near to a place where you're standing statically next to that thing. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Got it.

Yeah. All right. So what other testing do we do?

Well, I think we should go up to the master bedroom. Oh, yeah. The sleeping space.

He's going to flip out over all the stuff I have plugged in next to my bed. I guarantee. All right, let's do it. All right. Find out if my wife is satisfied with the way that I made the bed today. She's not home right now, so do not judge, folks. She's a much better bed maker than I am. All right.

All right. So we do have a little bit of buzzing going on.

Yep. And I've got basically the stuff I have plugged in next to the bed. I've got like a PMF mat underneath my top sheet. Okay. That's plugged in. I've got a humidifier. It's plugged in. I've got— you are going to be proud of me for this. There's an Ethernet cable behind the bed with Ethernet to USB-C adapter. My wife's got an old school iPhone, so hers is Ethernet to Lightning adapter. But basically when I'm laying in bed, not that I ever like open Instagram or YouTube laying in bed at night, but let's just say theoretically that were to happen, I can still have my phone in airplane mode, which is kind of cool. I do the same thing in my office, by the way. Yeah, it's great.

A lot of people don't know you can do that. You can actually get an adapter, connect it to your phone.

The only thing you can't do is like outbound calls, right? Um, which is fine. Yeah, because I usually go outside and go for a walk to make calls anyway.

So, but you can like through Signal or WhatsApp, you can make calls with that.

That's true, you can. Yep, anything that would normally do like Wi-Fi calling, you can use. Even though the native phone Wi-Fi calling doesn't allow you to call through Ethernet, you can use Signal or WhatsApp to do it. Pro tip.

Okay. All right. So what we want to do is we want to test your Elektrostress. Okay. Okay. That's what this— I say that because this is a German meter. Okay. And you can see here, you can zoom in on that. I like this one because it actually has a sound with it. Okay.

And so like if we test So is this test—

this will test your body voltage. My body? Yeah.

So do I need to like lay on the bed?

Yes, go ahead and hop on the bed. Okay, it's getting intimate now. All right, and just touch the tip of that probe there.

Okay, I'm gonna shock me, is it? No, I can take it.

I'll leave the sound on here. Okay. All right, so let's just—

is that sound picking up on the mic? Can you hear a little bit static?

Yeah. All right, so I'm gonna unplug a few things over here. Okay.

It's kind of funny because if you go to my wife's side of the bed, there's nothing, and my side has all this.

Okay, so now we're all the way down to zero just with that one thing unplugged.

You just unplugged the, like, the little power strip that a bunch of stuff's plugged into, probably. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Looks like that's a shielded power strip, but there's a bunch of other cables plugged into that. Coming out of it.

And those other cables might not be shielded, right?

Including which we established in the kitchen, including this.

So we got like a little— careful, there's a gun under there. Proceed with caution. Proceed with caution. Do not— since we're showing everybody what my house looks like, you know, every burglar is going to know where all the, all the entrances are. Don't worry folks, there's guns and Brian has a knife. All right, that's what we got.

Well, like this is an easy fix, right?

Right, you just gave me a Christmas present to fix that. That's where my iPhone plugs in at night. Yeah. Yeah, easy.

So that's an easy fix. And then we'll just kind of go through all these. And then there's multiple things. Everything in here is USB, bro. Like, yeah, like all of this stuff is causing—

Don't judge me too harshly. I just learned this like 15 minutes ago, dude.

Yeah, so we could fix every single thing here.

Yeah, just use those special doohickeys. And then what are they called again? Those things that you make? They're called doohickeys.

No, they're not. The safe chargers.

Safe chargers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's good.

Cool. And then, uh, the only thing left is just the, the Pure Wave. And this has, this has a cable that can be replaced with a shielded cable here. Yep. And then the only issue we might have is this itself that's producing an electric field.

Granted, that's not running all night. I run it for 20 minutes in the evening and 20 minutes in the morning when I wake up, but it's plugged in all night. Yeah, so it's still an issue.

Yeah, so what we would do is we can, we can— there's like these little things off Amazon you get, they're like remote switches, like cutoff switches. Okay, you just plug the PMF into that. When you're done, you just click it off. Okay, sweet. And then it'll cut off everything and you can leave all your all your USB.

So the way the remote switch works is if something is plugged into the wall, the remote switch is between that and the wall, or you'll just, you'll just plug it.

Yeah, you'll plug in whatever it is you want to turn off into the remote switch, and then when you— it comes with the remote. So when you press—

oh, it's an actual remote control. Yeah. So if I'm like super sleepy and I don't want to reach down there and fiddle around and unplug stuff, I've just got whatever the remote up here and I can just—

yeah. Click it off. That's pretty cool. And then it just basically, it's like, it basically, it's just like unplugging it. Yeah. Because it's cutting off the power. Wow. Yeah. Super cool. Or if you don't even want to remember anything about that, just get a remote timer. Timer. You can get a timer and then it'll automatically shut off at a specified time.

Under the assumption that people are not building up social jet lag with, uh, inconsistent sleep and wake times. So Yeah, yeah. By getting a timer, maybe you paint yourself into that corner of consistent sleep-wake times. Yeah. Did you know that there was a recent study that came out, and this backs up other research, that the sleep consistency is even more important than how long you sleep? Like, going to— like, it is better for you to get like 6 hours of sleep and go to bed at 11 PM and 5 AM every day than to get like 7 hours but go to bed at 10 PM some nights and 8 PM other nights and midnight other Makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're creatures of rhythm. Yeah, awesome. Just destroyed everybody's party weekends.

All right, well, I think, like, is that the same group of people that studied, like, that there's different types of circadian people?

Like, there's some people that I don't know. I mean, like, Michael Bruce is the doctor who made sleep typing a thing, like this idea of chronobiology, that there's dolphins and lions and bears and wolves. Oh my. And people are hardwired to, based on genes and, and, well, primarily genes, to operate best as like kind of like what we would normally call night owls and, uh, early— what, early, early birds? Yeah, night owls and early birds. So my issue with that is how practical does that apply to a modern social environment in which, you know, let's say you are an early bird, a lot of times modern life, social life, family does not allow you to go to bed at 8:00 PM and get up at 4:00 AM every day. And, that's where I think things like lighting, so-called zeitgebers, timekeepers, incorporating those wisely, light, movement, food, temperature can allow you to almost override your natural chronobiology and still operate in a modern social environment because I just think the chronobiology is cool but it's impractical for a lot of people if their lifestyle doesn't allow them to sleep according to the chronobiology.

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, that makes total sense because I think the idea I was thinking about was, um, I don't remember which book it was in, but, uh, how our ancestors usually had somebody staying up protecting, watching for predators and that kind of thing, right? And that, that's— it's normal. And you shouldn't— like, if you do have a tendency to stay up late, you shouldn't feel ashamed of like, oh, I have to get to bed earlier because everybody fits inside this one box, you know?

Or if you wake up in the wee hours and get up and get a few things done, there's many cultures and even a growing body of data indicating that many of our ancestors had a 3 to 4 hour cycle, would get up for 1 to 2 hours and then sleep again for 3 to 4 hours. When it comes to the idea of the What was I going to say? You were talking about before I mentioned— oh, the genes. So, the idea that some people would have been scouts because I talk to a lot of entrepreneurial groups and many of my clients are entrepreneurs and executives. And, when you test them, they have a certain gene variant for something called the COMT gene in which they clear dopamine less quickly. These are the type of people that wake up at 3:00 a.m. with 8 new business ideas. Many times they're the type of people who have like ruminating thoughts. They would have been great scouts protecting the village early in the day, right? So it's interesting, there is a correlation. It's almost like the blessing and curse of being an entrepreneur. Painting with a broad brush, a lot of entrepreneurs are, if you want to think about this ancestrally, hyper alert to dangers and enemies, and that makes them really good at recognizing business opportunities and running a complex company. But then it doesn't do you a lot of favors in the sleep department because you don't need to be a scout protecting the village. It's at that point you want to sleep. So yeah, it's this constant uphill battle if you're hardwired that way. It's solvable, but yeah, it is interesting.

Which it, you know, it kind of brings us back to this because like what one way that you can kind of fix that, and it's helped me tremendously because I am that entrepreneurial type that like I wake up with ideas in the middle of the night and I have to write it down, otherwise I can't fall back to sleep.

Gotta get out of the head.

Yeah, you got to get out of the head, but also like all the outside stimulus, you know, like, like if you have a normal house here with Romex wiring behind the walls, that's not— you don't have the shielded conduit or you don't have the paint on the walls or whatever. You have this electrical stress that's literally buzzing you just like you've got cables plugged in all around your, your room. Yeah. And it's, it's pulsating your body at 60 Hz. That's 120 times back and forth per second on your cells. Yeah, and so that's increasing your cortisol, it's depleting your minerals because calcium— calcium attracts into the cell, magnesium relaxes, right?

So it's depleting you and it's magnesium at night. Magnesium actually helps. Magnesium helps when you're in a highly electrically charged environment because it offsets some of that calcium influx. Yep. Uh, you can make a case, and probably the person who's talked about this the most would be somebody like Mercola in his book EMF. He talks about how ketones can be useful for that. Magnesium is another. And, um, molecular hydrogen. Yeah, it's hydrogen. Yeah, yeah, like doing like the hydrogen tablets, hydrogen water. And then last thing Brian mentioned, like getting things out of your head— real paper journal that you can actually write in, because your brain associates your phone oftentimes with work, getting things done, and a dopamine release. So, if you do need to get things out of your head, what I do is write them down at night. So, this is red light, right? So, I can flip this on and this is not going to disrupt sleep. If you don't have something like that, I've also got— where is it? This guy. I'll flip something like this on at night, right? So, flip this on, do the little bit of writing. There's also a pen called the Pilot Pen. It's not red light, but it's a little bit of light. That allows you to write on real paper. And then all I do is in the morning, I put that onto my phone. Yep. And GPT is great now because now with GPT, you can just take a photo of it and it'll transcribe it all for you.

Perfect. Yay. And by the way, with this light, if you're— if you have this light at home, you can plug it into a safe charger and keep it plugged in without having to worry about recharging it. Yeah, it's still going to be zero EMF. Yeah. Yeah. So incredible.

Yeah. Awesome. All sorts of cool tips here, folks. I hope you're taking notes, but if you're not, bengreenfieldlife.com/hometour is where the show notes are. And we transcribe everything. We do a pretty good job with note-taking. So, all right, what do we do now that we've learned I've got to make some modifications to the bedroom? Well, tangle of cables.

Yeah, we'll make some of those later after you open the rest of your gifts. Okay. And that's, you know, I anticipated that. Like, every time we do shielding of a house, or, you know, where we're going through and refining, fine-tuning things, there's always little things like people actually kind of like move in and eff it up with their actual life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could say it that way. Yeah, highly scientific. But we also want to make it convenient for you, you know. That's why we have to develop new products and technology that respects your biology. That's the—

yeah, it's actually a great business model, honestly, because people are buying stuff all the time, and then you've got the products that people can then modify those products with to make them low EMF. Yeah, it's great. Exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna be the next billionaire. You mean the EMF billionaire? Um, all right, so where do we, where do we go next?

Well, let's just keep, uh, testing around and listening to the sounds on these meters here.

Okay. Um, now by the way, can I ask you a question just while I'm thinking of it? So we've got the shielded walls, but what about Windows?

Good question. So what I want to show you is like, yeah, we've got the walls are shielded, so we've got shielding paint behind all of the surfaces here in, in the room.

So that's— so like, that's important too, because even though the wiring in our house is metal shielded, like when my head is up against this wall, depending on your sleeping environment, you're getting exposed to everything that's happening behind this wall, right?

Yeah, you can if there's— especially if there's other wires or conductive non-grounded things that are, um, that are behind the walls. But the wall, since it's grounded, it's always going to be zero. Whereas like a normal wall, uh, is going to have something more similar to that.

Yeah, on the wall. Yeah, the wall is— is that an issue, by the way, what you just did right there? No, because it's not coming out. You gotta be really close.

Yeah, we already tested your body voltage and it was all the way down to zero.

Yeah, okay, but back to the windows, what do you do about those?

So the windows, since all of the surfaces here have shielding paint, they're reflecting away all the wireless radiation. The windows, you already have upgraded windows because they've got, they've got the low E, which is like a silver coating. Yeah. And that's a catch-22 because as we saw downstairs, it blocks the infrared, but it also dampens the wireless radiation. Yeah. So like when we, when we test— is this window open?

Uh, you got to unlock it right here. There. Okay, now it'll open.

Okay, so if we test outside, you can see that reading there. Is like 1,700. Can you get that shot?

What's that measuring? This is measuring wireless.

So like if I turn the volume up here—

What's that coming from?

From towers in the distance. Okay. Yeah, we're up almost around 2,000. That's crazy.

Just imagine if we were in an urban environment.

Now if I— yeah, 2,000 right there. If I come right here, on the wall, it's lower. Yep. It's not as high as 2,000.

Yeah, it's at least 1,000 lower. Cut it in half about. And that's because of the silver on the windows. Yeah. I forget the brand. Do you remember the brand of these windows? People might ask.

Are they, uh, I would know with the P.

Yeah, yeah, I'll find it and put it in the show notes for you guys, the, the window brand that we used.

Okay, but like, like one of the things we recommend for windows is, you know, there's a window film you can get or there's shielding fabric.

Oh, so you could outfit an existing window. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, but then if you do that, you'd want to make sure you have infrared lighting in your bedroom. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. And you've already got blocking a lot of the infrared with the, with the, with these types of windows. But like if you go over here to a corner where there's no leakage, frequencies, you can see how the reading goes rock bottom way down, and it'll go even lower once we get these windows shielded with some kind of film or something. Yeah, so, so the reading in the room is gonna be like exponentially better once we cover, cover these and shield them appropriately.

Okay, go to sleep. My phone is transcribing you. Okay, got it.

So, and I remember when I was here for the site test, like, the further we went this way— was it this way or that way? Might have been— no, it was this way. The further we went this way, there's a tower in the distance over there. So this hill is actually— this hill out here is actually protecting you from a lot of the frequencies on the other side of that hill from the towers and things.

So while we're on the subject of towers, I have a question for you. We live in an area, as I know some listeners probably do, where there's very poor cell phone reception. After moving in, I realized that this was an issue because I can't have my phone attached to an ethernet cable everywhere. Like, let's say I'm wandering around the living room talking to somebody, walking paces around the couch, which I sometimes do. So I needed better cell phone coverage, so I got a Verizon cell booster And when I installed it, I thought next time Brian's up, we should actually test this to see what a cell booster does. Yeah, so we should test that. So you can call your cell phone company if you have poor cell coverage. And, um, they actually sent my first one for free. I had to put another one out in the office, but this is what it looks like. Like, our coverage is with Verizon. So essentially, this is plugged in via an Ethernet cable into the wall, and then Essentially, it boosts the cell signal. There's a wire or cable coming out of this that then kind of like sticks to a window, so it's got a good view of the cell tower, which is great. Took me from 1 and no bar in some areas of the house to 4 to 5 bars. But what I'm wondering, what Brian's going to be able to test, is, okay, what's this do to the EMF environment? I'm just curious how big of a problem these cell boosters are, and if they are a big problem. What we can do about it. So let's see what Brian has to say. So this is the cell booster. I was explaining to people that, you know, cell phone company will send these to you if you're getting low bars. It gives me now like 4 bars of coverage, but I'm curious what it does and if it's high, if there's anything we can do.

Oh yeah, it's maxing out this meter. Yeah, it says Max Messer, which is German. Yeah, so I don't know what that means, but Wait, it's high, and that's because we're right here, we're right by it, right?

But my wife does do art up here, so we're gonna do another thing here. I'm gonna take off my EMF modulating necklace. Just curious, does this do anything? Did it change it at all? Make it down? No.

Okay, take it away. Doesn't seem to do too much. No, you can see it's on this meter, we're up around, yeah, 6,000. If you go right up by it, it's going to almost max out.

Yeah, wait, leave it there, leave it there, right where you left it. Okay, so it's bouncing around up in the 9,000s. If I move this here, it actually does make a little bit of a dent, huh? I mean, I know you've talked about these before, Brian, and you don't think they're worth anything at all, but it does, because I put a sticker on one of them and used my own little at-home meter, and it seemed to do something.

Well, here, see, now take— now put your hand there instead and leave the thing away.

Good, good idea. You're a scientist. Oh yeah, so it's my body that's taking away that voltage. Yep. Okay, interesting. Although, you know, the other option is— here, actually, one more, one more to be a true scientist. Okay, there's that without my body, but your hands are still there, but your hands were always there. So, okay, so we're getting up in the— oh, it's more. Okay, so getting up in the 9000s and take this off. Yeah, not, not a big dent. No. All right, well, it's still a pretty piece of jewelry. It is pretty.

And if you like it Keep wearing it.

Placebo effect, right? All right, cool. So anything that one could do— obviously we can't put in a Faraday cage because that kind of defeats the purpose of having it.

Well, I've got, um, I'll do this test later. It's a little more complicated. I have to connect it to my phone, but I have this, this meter that you can actually measure the, um, the reception of all the different carriers in the area. Oh, and so like if, if we shut this off, I could see like what the reception would be like for Verizon, T-Mobile, right?

You shut it off or you could like walk, like do it out there where you're not really getting much coverage from this thing.

Yeah, and then I can see which carrier you're getting the best reception with.

Oh, and that's incredible. They make something like that? Yeah.

And then we can—

I wish I'd have known about that.

You can switch carriers.

Of course, a lot of these companies now, they're doing deals with Starlink. So I think T-Mobile just did a deal with Starlink. I think Verizon announced that they're— so it might be a moot point. Exactly. Then everybody's going to have the ability to use their current cell phone carrier with Starlink, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. What's that one called that you can—

it's called the Wilson Pro. The Wilson Pro.

Is this one that people can buy?

You can buy it. It's meant for people— I, I use it the opposite way. It's meant for people to install these.

Oh, because they mean you use it the opposite way.

I use it the opposite way because I use it to, to see like how much exposure we have from the towers, and then we do shielding, and then I'll test after and see how much it's been reduced.

So it was made to see if you can get good cell phone coverage from a tower, but you use it instead to see how much damage you would be getting from being in a specific location relative to that.

Yeah, and how well our— how effective our shielding is.

Interesting. Yeah. Okay, cool. Wow, man, this, this is incredible. All right, so where to next? What else do we need to show here to folks that you think would be interesting?

Well, I think if we go downstairs, we can, we can talk about magnetic fields a little bit.

Magnetic fields. Okay, so we've got a whole different field besides the electrical fields. Yep.

Okay, we got electrical fields, we've got, we have magnetic fields, we have the wireless high-frequency fields. Okay. And then we also have dirty electricity. Which we haven't talked about. And, uh, yeah, we'll start with the magnetic fields. Okay, so this, this meter measures, uh, 60 Hz AC magnetic fields, and, uh, we would like this number to be 0.3 or less for bedrooms or places where you have, you know, parasympathetic healing happening.

And the magnetic fields would be coming from the wiring? From wiring.

Okay. Yeah. Or motors running. Okay. Like, uh, dishwasher. Dishwasher. If we go near the fridge over here, we might be able to— Oh yeah. If it's running, we might get a little larger of a magnetic field. I don't know. I think the motor's on the top on these ones.

It's not too bad.

But it's not bad right now. Yeah. It might not be running at all.

Well, I mean, the refrigerator is on. So what do you mean?

It might— well, the motor will cycle, so—

oh, I see what you're saying. So if we, uh, hmm, what about— oh, you got to see this.

There's red light on the top here.

Oh yeah, I went through my whole house. I put red light film on anything that emits a high amount of blue light. So if you kind of closely observe as you wander through my house, everything— so like if you show this with the camera, like Hey, you went up to Sandpoint recently. Uh, that was Jess's friend who went to— is that in Sandpoint?

Yeah, Went to a Ridge.

It's good chocolate torte. Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah, that's my town. I'm there almost every day.

Yeah, so see this, this is like red film. I go through every place of the house and make sure it's covered. Anything that has like a blue light screen is covered with red film. Just an easy, easy hack. You can just buy red film on Amazon. And then you just lay it out over anything that emits a lot of blue light. So you'll find that all over the house. Perfect. What about the, uh, you could measure the air filter. Yeah, that'll have something. That's obviously running. Hold on.

Sometimes like these little screens will have a—

Yep. Is the oven on?

You might have the oven on. Yeah, the oven's on.

So the oven's emitting a little bit. Is that concerning levels? Like, are you concerned when you go through a house? Because obviously, you know, appliances are going to produce a magnetic field. Yeah, there's not much you can do about that though, is there?

No, there's not. Um, typically you're obviously not sleeping next to the oven, so yeah, if someone's really sensitive and they want to get an oven where like the components are kind of on the back end or, or somewhere separate, then that's, you know, sometimes we'll recommend that, but For this, it's like you're not going to be standing here for like hours, you know. But what we will do is we'll say, okay, don't stand.

It is on. It looks like my son's cooking something.

He's cooking some salmon. It smells really good, actually.

I know, making me hungry.

But like, if you do have to stand someplace, and we'd usually test and say, okay, well, if you're going to— like, some of them will be electric stoves. Yeah. We'll be like, stand on this side when you're cooking. Yeah, if you're going to be there for a long time, right? Otherwise, like, you just back up.

Yeah. By the way, you know, the reason I have a standalone filter in here is because the fans on most stoves are too far above the stove to actually take away all the PM2.5. Yep. So this thing will go up to like 500 of PM2.5 when you're cooking in the kitchen. We did a video about that. It's on the website somewhere. So that's why even if you have a good air filtration system and fan above the stove, having a standalone filter in the kitchen, I think is a pretty good idea. It's the biggest source of particulate matter in the house. Oh, yeah. Unless you have a house fire or something.

I love that it's so high too, because I have a little cheap one I got off of Amazon, like a Coway that's a HEPA filter. And I like whenever we have smoke in the house, I plug it in and I'm like holding it right over the stove. Like, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's good.

Okay. So magnetic fields, basically, you just want to ensure you don't have any appliances with high magnetic fields running in areas where you're statically standing there or resting there or hanging out there for long periods of time. That's correct. Yeah, I'm very curious to see when we go to the lounge where there's a lot of biohacking equipment what that looks like, because there's a lot of stuff plugged in out there.

Yeah, yeah, we can, we can test that. The other source of magnetic fields is if there are wiring errors, and that's— when I say wiring errors, I mean like how the wires are connected by the electrician. So according to National Electric Code, there's certain things that have to be wired a certain way for safety. But what we found, and others before us, like Carl Reilly was a building biologist that he wrote a book called— he wrote a book about it called like EMFs in building wiring. Okay. Tracing EMFs is what it's called. But in that book, he outlines like the National Electric Code and the violations that cause magnetic fields. And so when we're going around with this meter, we're able to test things that a lot of electricians aren't able to discover, or it'd be harder to discover without, without a meter like this.

Gosh, you'd think electricians would, would have meters like that, but a lot of them aren't focused on building biology, right?

They're— they— what they do have is they have a clamp meter like this. And they can use this. This is something that they use all the time. They can use this around Romex wires. They just clamp it around the wires when they're— when they wire it into the house. And they'll see that the amps will be elevated if there's a wiring error on that circuit. Yeah. Because normally the hot and the neutral wires have to have equal amount of current flowing out and back to that circuit. Yeah. If they have arc fault breakers, those will trip. If that's the case. Okay. But, um, and they're— those are pretty much— they're using a lot of arc fault breakers and electrical systems now, so it prevents a lot of things from happening. Yeah. But still, if there's issues with how they wired it within that circuit, it can still create a magnetic field but won't show up here. Okay. Yeah. And I did the test.

So this will not measure magnetic fields?

No, but it will give you clues as to like where the magnetic field is if you get it, are able to clamp it around the wire.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, got it, got it. Um, do you think it'd be a good idea to check out the office where there's a lot of— a lot of people worry about the office and the way that that's wired?

Yeah, yeah, let's test that. We'll do electric fields, magnetic. Okay, cool.

A lot of people use like biohacking equipment. So what we're going to do next is we're going to go to the area where there's a lot of biohacking equipment and also a typical kind not typical because my office is a little weird, but what an office looks like. All right, so mini tour of the Greenfield home. We've got the gym in here. Now, we went with cork flooring because cork has very low amounts of off-gassing compared to typical rubber floor in a gym. But that also means that the gym— like, this is pretty non-conductive, right? Like, this would kind of defeat some of the grounding and earthing concepts built in.

Yeah, I think we did put grounding material underneath here.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, do you think the cork will conduct some of that though? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So, I'm even grinding when I'm working out. All right. So, into the office. So, basically, the setup we have here is all these panels. This is just sound paneling. This is where I record the podcast that many of you watching or listening probably hear. This rug in here also is literally just for soundproofing, nothing feng shui. Aesthetic about it whatsoever. But then, you know, there's lots of stuff in here. We got some red light panels. You know, a lot of time was all flip on these red light panels, go in the office, start my work. So when you walk into a typical office, what are you looking at, Brian?

I'm looking at all the wires, and I'm thinking about body voltage. And we want your body voltage to be as low as possible, okay, in the office. And so I'm looking at anything that's plugged in. Like the cables, the power strips. We're also looking at the lighting, paying attention to that, the spectrum, the flicker, and the intensity of it and making sure it's all appropriate for the time of day and everything like that. By the way, check this out.

UVA, UVB. Unfortunately, this thing throws the breakers right now. I'm working on that. But you got all spectrums of light right here— UVA, UVB, and your red light.

The red light's overpowering the UVA here.

Hold on. This is called an EMR Tech, kind of a—

yeah, you can see it's got 630, mhm, 670, mhm, and 850.

Yeah, yeah. So 3 different spectrums plus the UVA, UVB, right?

Yeah. If you turn on just the UVA, I'll be able to detect that.

That's UVA and UVB. And UVB. Okay, so that middle one is— that middle one is UVB. Oh, this one's UVB. Yep. And then this one's UVA. Okay, so if I flip— push to— so now it's just UVA.

Okay, so this one was UVB. You can see on this side of the spectrum, you can see that. And it might be even below this. This is at 380. So I'd have to look it up, but I think UVB might be below that. UVA, yeah, see UVA is around 380. It's like all the way up there. So I think UVB is like below 380.

So at least it's putting out the spectrums we want it to. Yeah, cool. So, whoops. So how do you want to do the office? You want me to like stand at my desk and measure body voltage, or you just want to go through and measure the magnetic fields and electrical fields? What do you like to do when you're at an office?

Yeah, let's get a baseline reading of what it's typically like when you're at your desk. Okay. And I'll set up the cables here because you have to ground the meters in order to get an accurate reading.

So this is measuring body voltage?

Yes, this is measuring body voltage. So, uh, you can go in and hold that for now. Okay. Like, if I'm standing out here away from the desk, away from the desk, and the electric—

so you're at about 500. When you push against the wall— whoa, why does it lower so much when you press against the wall?

Because the wall is grounded. Okay.

Well, it's grounded intentionally, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool.

So we've got a little bit of electric fields, like you can see when I stand.

Is this a concerning level of electric fields next to the desk?

We're going to mitigate it because we can, you know, there's a lot of cables over there. There's a lot of room for improvements. Okay. So I step on this. You know, the carpet will kind of conduct a little bit because the floor is grounded.

So what if you— what if I touch you?

Yeah, it goes up because you're standing in a higher field area than I am.

So it's passing the field onto you.

Yeah, exactly. So then you can go and just test, okay, what's increasing the fields?

That thing increases a ton, that NanoV thing. Wow. And it's off. It's plugged in, but it's off. That light, that bright light for seasonal affective disorder, that seems to be jacking it up. Let's see. It's kind of cool because you just touch stuff. You're acting as your own biological meter. See, that's pretty good.

Yep. So that's grounded. That's good.

So far, the light and the Nano-V seemed pretty high. Add a little bit.

Yeah, and I can test it with my other meter too. That's helpful. Like, this is mixer.

Where's the power on that? In the back. We're on the back. Yep. This is building biology, folks. This is what they do, right? That's technically the name of the field you operate in, right? Building biology?

Yeah, it's, it's the name of the field. I'm actually not a certified building biologist, though. I, I was— I'm broke, self-taught.

Cover. Sometimes that's the best. Not always. Don't, don't go to an uncertified brain surgeon.

It's like this lamp is an unshielded lamp.

Okay, when you say unshielded, do you mean that you can change that by plugging it in differently, or you would literally have to shield it with some kind of shielding material?

You'd have— well, you'd— the lamp's not made to be shielded. So I need to replace the cable on it.

Okay. Yeah. Got it. Got it.

But we'll, we'll address that. You like, you like this little lamp?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. It does the trick. What's that one? That one does red light. Okay. I think that's a Chromalux bulb. The other one does blue light. So if I'm in here working, I usually use this if I'm in here working at night, I'll use the red one and then occasionally the blue one. Yeah.

If it's midday. Then you got your red light helmets for, is it for brain or hair growth or both?

The black one is hair growth. The left one is mitochondria. Cool.

Yep. All right, so let's have you just— is it okay if we unplug some things?

I think so. Yeah? Yeah, what do you want to unplug? Well, I'll see.

I'm gonna take this out. Well, actually, let's test you. Let's get a baseline reading while you're just standing at your desk. Okay. So we're at around 3,000. Okay. Between 3,000 and 4,000 millivolts.

Okay.

That's 3 or 4 volts for those of you listening. Goes up to 7,000, 8,000, 9,000. Let me get away from there too. Okay. So about between 3,000 and 4,000 is the baseline. Okay. All right, now grab my other meter here. We're going to test where it's coming from.

We kind of already know the NanoV has an issue, probably because that's the one that allows you to like breathe, uh, special water that's been— yeah, kind of like charged up like that when I turn it on. Looks kind of cool. It does look cool. It's churning out a lot, isn't it? Yeah. Wow.

So it's because this isn't— this part's metal. Yeah, but it's not, it's not grounded through the appliance. Okay, so there's AC that's leaking on onto that. Otherwise that would be zero.

So like, yeah, even if it's off, it's doing it, huh?

Yeah, even if it's off, it's—

yeah. Okay, and you can do something about that? Yeah, let me—

well, I brought something. I might be able to do something here real quick just to demonstrate and we'll see if it works. This is a total experiment, so I don't know if this is going to work. I haven't tried it yet, but we're going to see. This is the kind of stuff I do for companies to help them kind of biohack their products. Yeah. But I'm grounding my body while I have this meter so I can get an accurate reading. Now if I'm able to ground something on this— oh, interesting.

So you're experimenting to see what would happen if you grounded that? Yeah, it doesn't look like it's not doing much.

It doesn't look like it's doing much.

Wow, that's crazy. It's turning out a lot and it's right next to me while I'm working.

Yeah. So might just want to, you know, for some things we just like want to reposition them.

Yeah. So that you have like a— Yeah. Unfortunately, this is what comes off of it. And then this kind of goes as a nasal cannula. So there's not very, a very great distance you can be from it. You know what we could do? Unless they were to re-engineer it with a longer extension.

We can get a grounding mat to put underneath. I think that would help a little bit. Yeah. But then that cable, that sheath I was telling you about, we can put that right over this part. Okay, and then that, like, alligator clip that. Yeah, that'll be— that way this will be grounded. Cool, cool.

That's useful. All right, then this light is doing a bunch of it too, huh?

Yeah, that had a, had a lot of electric fields as well.

So yeah, I don't want this to get too inside baseball boring for folks. You may not have these around, but we'll just give a couple examples here, and you know, you can always come out and test some of the other stuff later on if we need to. Yeah, well, I just want to show people a couple of things for the camera.

Let's see, where is this?

Uh, how do you turn it on?

Where's it plugged into? Oh, good question.

Probably in the back there, somewhere back there. So yeah, what I'll do is there's like a power— see this little mesh under here? Yeah, this is full of all the stuff that's plugged in. Got it.

Yep. So what I'll do is later, after we're done recording, I'll come here and I'll just like look at a bunch of the stuff and we'll— I'll figure out a plan. We can have like some photos and stuff I take in the show notes.

Cool. Awesome, awesome. All right, folks, we'll put photos in the show notes when he does more of the walk through the office so that we don't get too long in the tooth. I know your guys' attention span. Do we want to show them some of the biohacking area? Because you did something special in there because we're running the BioCharger and stuff in there, right? Yeah. Yeah, let's go talk about it.

Yeah. Unique things in there.

So, this is one of my favorite areas of the house. I spend a lot of time in here. I call it the lounge. I used to call it the Zen Den, but now it's just a lounge because it's kind of bigger and it's not a den. So, there's a hyperbaric chamber in here. There's an infrared sauna. There's a BioCharger. There's a PEMF chair. There's a vibrating Shiftwave chair. There's a light sound therapy lamp called a Roxeva. And then, all of this shelving is just everything from helmets to headgear to meditation machine. You know, this is like the biohacking room, basically. So, and this is one of those OLED TVs too. Cool.

Yeah, we can tell that's super thin. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty thin.

Really cool looking. Yep. So what do we— what did we do in here? Because you knew that BioCharger puts out radio frequency, red light, PEMF, uh, negative ions. Like, you know, it's pretty, pretty charged up.

Yeah. So typically what we what we would do in a normal room that we want to create as like a biohacking or safe room is we would put shielding paint on the walls that's grounded. With this, it wasn't really safe to do that because what we wanted was an insulation barrier between the grounded wall and the room. Because if you got between the BioCharger and the grounded surface and happened to touch that grounded surface, you'd have a lot more voltage than is intended going through your body to that grounded, you know, yep, material. Yep. So we grounded behind the drywall with that copper mesh.

Got it. So instead of just having the copper mesh in the flooring in here, it's in the walls as well.

Yeah, it's all the way around.

So this entire room is grounded basically. Yeah. So we did a little bit of extra in this room based on all the equipment running in it, especially the BioCharger.

Which puts out a lot. Yeah. So, yeah, so we wanted to make it completely safe. There's no question that, like, you know, yeah, you're going to have a lower voltage potential in here, but we didn't want it to be where, like, right, you're literally like a lightning rod, right?

Should I turn— do you want me to turn on the BioCharger? Yeah, you can turn that on. Okay, so I'll turn this on. Start. Yes. Okay, there it goes. And this thing has like recipes for inflammation and constipation and headaches and all sorts of stuff. It's like a Rife frequency machine.

So you can see, you can even hear it on here.

Yeah. Yep. You're coming straight through there. Hear it through the speaker.

Yeah. Now here, let's, let's test something.

That's the difference when it's on versus when it's shielded. The electric field's coming through this way. Yep, but not through the door. Yeah, wow, travels pretty far from the machine, huh?

I'm, I'm, yeah. It's detecting on me right now, so if my body's—

Hide behind the wall. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Wow. But it's supposed to be putting out an electric field, so it's doing what it's designed to do.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's, uh—

Yeah. And this isn't an example of demonstrating that the BioCharger is bad for you. Right? Well, it's, it's producing an electrical field, but you're intentionally putting yourself in front of those frequencies that supposedly are at specific frequencies designed to vibrate certain cells to cause some type of an effect.

Yeah, whatever. I don't know exactly which frequencies they've implemented, but they've studied it. So yeah, yeah, if it's intentional, that's good. But usually if we're detecting something with these meters, they're broadband and they're not frequency-specific. Yeah. And so we're detecting things that are not necessarily meant to be calibrated to be therapeutic, right? You know, like, like 60 Hz electricity in the house, right?

So in some cases, some things are actually calibrated, which is what this is. All right, I'm gonna flip this off so we can actually hear each other.

There we go. Stop there.

And you can see now we're all the way down. On this, so you got more of the red light tape on that screen, red light tape on this screen, red light tape everywhere. Yeah, cool. So that's, that's basically the idea of a room that has everything grounded. So I realize we told people this and I just mentioned it, should we test the, the amount of flicker on a TV like this? Yeah, I've got my meter. Okay, let me flip it on. I think the remote control is— I literally put it there so if someone was doing a sauna session, they can literally like watch something on TV while they're in the sauna.

So let me show flicker. Sunlight doesn't have any flicker.

I'll kind of orient it this way so the sunlight's not coming off of it. Okay, so sunlight is on, it's flicker. Okay, so now this is on. Obviously we don't have a different TV to compare it to. No, that's very low. Very low level of flicker. Very low level of flicker. That's awesome. That's OLED. Yeah, well, that's good.

Can you hear a little bit of buzzing?

Yeah. Is that buzzing flicker?

Yeah, a little bit, but it's not a lot because—

have you tested a normal TV before with that?

Oh, they're, they're all over the place. Yeah, some are really terrible and some are—

well, it's good to know that this, this is the same model as I have in the other room too.

So some TVs, like, just so you have a reference, like some TVs you'll turn them on and immediately it'll be like, and you'll be like this far away and you'll still be able to test it from here even with the window like And then this TV, by the way, you guys, everything in this house is hardwired.

So this TV is plugged into the wall. You can see behind here with the camera if you come around, it's plugged in with an Ethernet cable, right? So I'm not using the Wi-Fi on this TV. There is a Bluetooth enabled, so you can hear via the Bluetooth speaker installed in the sauna, the TV, if you're in the sauna watching TV, but it's not actually connected via Wi-Fi, which is great. Yeah. Cool. Cool.

Awesome. So you lucked out on that.

Looked out on the TV, took my chance, got lucky. All right, so I know we've got all that stuff on the dining room table. Yes. Should we go and do a little show and tell? Get ready for finish up with dessert, a little show and tell. Let's do it. Let's do it. We're ready to jump into some of these interesting tools that Brian so nicely wrapped and brought. Where do we start, Brian?

Well, let's start with— you already opened one.

Yep.

Right, you got your safe meter doohickey, safe charger doohickies. Yep. And then, uh, these are for the boys. Okay, set those aside. This is for Jessa.

Okay, who's off playing tennis, so she's going to miss out. Yep.

So why don't we start off with, uh, why don't we start off with the big one?

Okay, start with the biggest one first. Again, I'm not going to open the card, just going to rip this one open, folks. May not even need the knife, we'll see. Okay, got a big cardboard box, of course. There we go. Okay, there we go. Well wrapped. Yeah, thoroughly wrapped for shipping. Okay. Oh wow, what is this? A— oh, we were just talking about this. This looks like a desk lamp. It is. Okay, a desk lamp with— what's it say on it? Something therapy. Goldilocks. Goldilocks therapy bulb desk lamp. So what do we have going on here, man?

So this is a fully shielded—

Oh, it's shielded. Fully shielded lamp. This could fix the issue we have going on out in the office. Yes. Incredible. Wow. So tell me about this.

So it's got a 150-watt halogen bulb in it. So you'll have like full spectrum.

Wow. So this is the bulb, I'm assuming? Yes. Okay. So what is special about this bulb?

I tinted the glass so that it—

this is a product that you designed?

Yeah, I tinted the glass so that it will— here's the little thing here. Yeah, it will basically— the dominant wavelength, which is the hue of the light source, will be 588 nanometers. And that's the— that's like outside in the sun, that's what we—

the dominant wavelength would be tested So you can flip this on here. This would be infrared spectrum, infrared and, and, uh, yellow light therapy.

Incredible. Have you heard of amber light therapy? Yeah. And then it also has red.

So would this be something you would more use in the evening, or you use it just during a typical work day?

You use it during, during the day, and it can be an all-day light, kind of like a mini sunlight. Wow.

So if you're working in an office, this could literally allow you to get a little bit more of a feeling and an effect as though you're out in the sun. Yes. Wow, amazing. Super cool. And you have these on your website? Yep. And I'm assuming this is already shielded, so you just plug it in, you're good to go. Yep, everything's shielded.

It comes with a base. We'll just replace that troublemaking lamp out there. The base or a clamp, you can—

easy. Incredible.

Or you can do it with this, like, wow, nice big base that it has in in here.

Super cool, super heavy. Oh my gosh, dude, thank you. Amazing. Wow, nice packaging too. Good job. Yeah, thanks. Nice, nice. Hey, uh, hey Taren, you here? You wanna, you wanna see some of this other stuff we have going on? Uh, so we've got a few things to open up here. Um, you may have to open up Mom's for her since she's not here. Oh, you can open up yours first. Let's see what we got. Yep.

So, we got a doohickey, a bio-optimized grounding charger.

So basically, you plug anything like next to your bed into this instead, and it basically allows it to be— well, it's not a, it's not a dirty electricity filter, it is basically a grounding plug for anything that you would charge via— or this one will work with a computer, right? So you would replace your normal computer charger with this. It will also charge USB, but you're not getting the same amounts of electrical frequency exposure— is that the right way to phrase it? Yeah, right. As you would be getting with a typical like MacBook plug. So this would replace like a MacBook plug, plus you've got all your USBs in there. How cool is that? That's pretty cool. That's pretty neat.

I'll put this on my Yeah, the one with all the other outlets.

Yeah, like a country. Sweet. And what'd you say this one is?

That's for Jessa, same thing as this.

Okay, so that's the same thing. All right, well, we'll just save that for her. Yeah, we can tell her. And this is for River. What about this? That's for everybody. Okay, should we open it? Yeah. All right, here we go. Oh, I've seen these before. These are super cool. So explain these, Brian.

So these are little— they call them fairy lights. But these are all— all of these are red except for I've got one that's warm white.

I thought just a USB-based light and you would plug this in. What's the purpose of it?

So you can plug it in and it provides red light, um, at night and you can plug it into here.

I've got some of these in the sauna.

Red light and zero EMF. The ultimate because it can be plugged in. Zero EMF.

Yeah. Oh wow. So you could use this to like put up around a bed where you want some lighting at night beyond just like a lamp, maybe some mood lighting. Yep. Whether it's for romance or reading or whatever. A little plug there to turn it on. These are pretty cool. Wow. So here's what they look like, folks, if you want to see. So basically you plug it in here, plug this guy in, unplug this filter for now, and basically flip this on and you can flip it. It doesn't— you don't have to have it flash.

You can put it on again like that. There's like different settings. Again like that, almost like Christmas lights. There's some that are flicker-free.

Let's just do our whole Christmas tree this year with these. The world's first biologically appropriately lit Christmas tree.

Funny you say that because that's what this is, a Christmas tree. Well, they're Christmas lights. No way, really?

You made like low EMF Christmas lights?

Yeah, there's, there's 3 packs of red and like, yeah, they've got— there we go, Christmas lights!

There we go. So a nor— how is this different than like a normal Christmas light you'd get from Walmart or whatever? Well, they're—

those use AC. Oh wow, super cool though. Those ones are white. I've got 3 whites, there's 3 ones that are colored in there.

Some are red, colored, white. Oh my gosh, you have these on your website too, I'm assuming?

Not yet, I'm actually refining this. These are like the first prototype. Wow.

Yeah, wow, those are pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Wow, so, so fun.

So yeah, zero EMF Christmas tree, and you can basically plug them in, you know, you can plug 3 strands into this. Wow. And then that's—

there's no EMFs coming off the Christmas This is for you, brother, right? That's for you and River. Here, let's see what we got in here. Even more happy birthday. It is their birthday next week. This— I'll save each River. Oh, he's got a meter, meter to be able to test so they can go around the room, be a little biohacking geek. So what are these? Trifield meter.

What's that do? So these measure magnetic fields, and this is kind of like a—

try— Greenfield. Yes, all three types of electromagnetic pollution. So it will do RF, electrical, magnetic. Yeah. So you've got everything you'd want to test. So these are like more of like a consumer-friendly thing. If you want to be your own building biologist, you get some kind of a new technology or toy at your home and you want to see, or maybe go out to your fancy new electric car or whatever. Yeah, you can test mainly—

this is really good for magnetic fields. The other ones, it's just a good indicator of of a high reading.

And these are like cases for it.

And those are cases I had designed for them.

Is this your place, the Shielding Shop? Yep. Oh, I thought it was Shielded Healing, or did you change it?

Shielded Healing is my consulting business.

I see.

Shielding Shop has all the products. Super cool.

So is this like a special battery too?

Just a normal 9-volt battery. Okay. Yeah, but the idea behind this is that you guys are getting older, you're growing up, you know, you're, you're, uh, how old, 16 now?

Getting married, starting a family. Yeah, yeah.

You guys need to start taking responsibility for for your own health, your own life, which you do, and your own electrical environment. So I want to teach you guys how to use the— this equipment because this is what I would recommend to anybody. Like if you're going to college, going to a dorm, or yeah, getting your first apartment, something like this out of my office I've messed around with. Yeah, you want to be able to test the magnetic field especially.

So that's been pretty lazy with it because I've got Brian in my back pocket. Yeah, the standard—

this is what you'd want to be testing for the magnetic field. And so this is the main setting that you want to be looking at. Like, if you detect a place that's higher than 0.5, especially around your sleeping area, you don't want that. Okay. Okay. So if you're out looking for an apartment, uh, take this with you, and this is how you test it. Now you can see, like, when you go around, it kind of like fluctuates. You want to set it down. Okay. And you can see it's like really low here. Your home is ideal.

No way. For magnetic. It's as though we planned that. What about the RF?

Well, the red one, you can turn that on and you can test to see if there's Wi-Fi. It's not going to be as accurate as one of my other meters over here. Like, if you can grab that green one over there. And so you can see, like, it's going to be a very different reading here versus there. That's saying there's nothing, but this one's So it's not very accurate when it comes to RF. I'll keep it at the magnetic. Wow. But magnetic is really, really accurate. It's as accurate as my— Incredible one. Sweet. We are equipped. And then I got this case for it and everything.

So I know you brought this hat too, Brian. Now that we've established the fact that my home is a pretty safe place to be, I'm feeling pretty lucky. You asked me if I was lucky earlier. Yeah, now I'm feeling very lucky. So here's the thing, folks. Obviously there's a lot to think about. I don't want to fearmonger you, but as Brian and I talked about earlier in the podcast, rather than freaking out about your entire house and dropping everything to fix everything, I recommend— I don't know if you would agree with me on this, Brian— go to your bedroom, get one of those little meters, or have a building biologist come and check things and Start with your sleeping space, tackle the low-hanging fruit. You don't have to build an entirely new home if that's not your thing, but there's a lot of stuff here where you can make simple switches, especially to your sleeping space. And, I would say probably the second most important in my opinion would be the office if you're working 8 hours a day.

Yeah. Office, places you're relaxing, eating.

Right. Eating would be another one because you want to be in a parasympathetic state. Exactly. Right. Yes. The refrigerator. Um, like I've mentioned a couple of times, Brian is a great resource. I've done other podcasts with him. There's also a lot of external links, books we mentioned, products we mentioned, etc. bengreenfieldlife.com/hometour is where you can go for that. And Brian, last time we talked, you have the ability, or had the ability, to like travel to people and work with them. Do you still do that? Yeah, I still do that. You get on airplanes?

I get on airplanes. I have a team that also tests all over. You know, we do 20 to 30 home tests per month now. Wow. So incredible. Grown a lot since the first podcast we did together. And it's, you know, and now I've gone into developing products because we test that many homes a month. We see the issues. And so we develop and fill in the gaps where they're needed.

Yeah, amazing. Well, I feel as though I gotta, I gotta end this podcast on a high note wearing a hat like this. Thank you for watching, everybody. I'm Ben Greenfield along with Brian Hoyer signing out from another episode of Boundless Live. Make sure you eat your Lucky Charms, but test them first for magnetic fields, electrical frequencies, and dirty electricity. In the meantime, thank you so much for watching. And thank you to the incredible Brian Hoyer. Do you want free access to comprehensive shownotes, my weekly roundup newsletter, cutting-edge research and articles, top recommendations from me for everything that you need to hack your life, and a whole lot more? Check out BenGreenfieldLife.com. It's all there. BenGreenfieldLife.com. See you over there. Most of you who listen don't subscribe. Like, or rate this show. If you're one of those people who do, then huge thank you. But here's why it's important to subscribe, like, and/or rate this show. If you do that, that means we get more eyeballs, we get higher rankings, and the bigger the Ben Greenfield Life show gets, the bigger and better the guests get, and the better the content I'm able to deliver to you. So, hit subscribe, leave a ranking, leave a review if you got a little extra time. It means way more than you might think. Thank you so much.