Reading the Soul with guest, Catherine Carrigan

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How are you on this, in Atlanta at least, this rainy day, this rainy Tuesday, but it's a glorious day because If you are watching us online, I have Katherine Kerrigan in the studio. How are you?

I'm great. A little drippy because of the rain outside. So if you hear drips, it's actual rain.

Yes, thank you very much. I have a feeling that's maybe what Deborah was hearing. Yes, it is. And I have skylights in the studio, and so you may hear some like what sounds like static, but it's not static. It's raindrops on the windows. But we are so excited that you're here. We're going to have a great conversation in regards to Katherine's latest, latest work of art and her latest book, Reading the Soul. Uh, but before we get into all that, uh, just a couple of things, um, real quickly, because we want to spend as much time with Katherine as possible. Um, we will be talking about Lessons of a Bitch next week. So I get a lot of conversations about, really, do you think people can change? You know, is it possible? And I was even reading something— I'm not sure if it was you or someone else that I follow a lot— about narcissism and whether or not narcissists can change. And all I have to tell you is, I'm— you know, if there was a scale of narcissism, I may not have been all the way to the reich, but I was a good, a good ways in. And so a lot, you know, how did you change, how did you transform so greatly from being such a whatever you want to call it.

Let's call it a bitch though.

So next week we're going to talk about that so you can understand that you can make shifts. I'm not saying you're bitches, I'm not saying you're narcissists. What I'm saying is if you're questioning whether or not you can make a shift in who you are from the inside out, I'm here to tell you, and I'm sure Kathryn is as well, that you can. So we're going to talk about that next week. Now, a big announcement that I'll spend just a minute on is Monday of next week I am rolling out a 9-day live series. It'll be on Facebook Live, and it's all around Goal Setting to Riches. So it's a subset, a very small subset, of my Shift to Riches blueprint, which I coach corporate and entrepreneurial clients on, and it's what we use for our 3, 6, 12-month coaching. So, so many of you reach out to me struggling in regards to not only defining your goals but actually pursuing them and achieving them. And I have all this content, and I thought, well, I'm going to put it out there for you.

I'm going to give it to you free. It's free.

So if you are interested at all, if you're stuck in any sort of way, if you just are wanting to really understand how to set really clear goals and then how to kind of get rid of the junk in between your ears that are, you know, causing you to wreak havoc on yourself, and you really want to achieve the goals and the dreams that you have, not only for this year but for your life, then go to, um, my Shift to Riches private group and join the private group because that's where we're going to contain this this series. And unless you're in that group, you're not going to be able to see the videos, you're not going to be able to get the workbooks, you're not going to be able to get the bonus sessions, which are actually going to include coaching within this, this program. So you definitely want to check that out. So you have— it starts next Monday the 24th. So, uh, Shift to Riches private Facebook group, join the group, and then you can just say yes, I'm going, going, going, going to the 9 days of events, and we have multiple things in each day. Now, one last thing. If you can't make it live, because most of the sessions will be noon each of those days, and then at 8 PM, and that's so we can get our global community involved, then it'll all be on replay. So you can just watch it whenever you need to in that 10-day period, and we'll talk about more of that during the kickoff on Monday the 24th. All right, I'm so excited for it. I am. Thank you, because it's going to be a great day. And then of course you can go to sheddingthebitch.com, Apple Podcasts, or blogtalkradio.com and look at all of our past episodes, even the ones— because she's been a guest 4 or 5 times. How many books do you have?

Yeah, who knows?

And we love having her because she just brings us an energy and a spirit that I absolutely adore, and I know based on listenership and that kind of thing and feedback, you do as well. But we've had other episodes. Last week we talked about emotional intelligence and your emotional quotient. A week before that we had an Ask Bernadette episode, which is the first Tuesday of each month. We talked about finding qualified candidates. How to Quiet Your Mind was a very popular segment. And then, as well, you know, How Do You Know If He's the One? Because it was Valentine's and someone reached out to me about it. And The Power of Habits we've talked about. That one, I, and I believe it's also because there's a book I learned regarding the power of habits, but that one has been taking off in regards to what you want to understand and learn. And obviously it's about habits. And then we have also had time management hacks. We've had a number, a number, a number of episodes. So you can always go to Apple Podcasts, blogtalkradio.com, or sheddingthebitch.com and listen to any one of those. All right. Okay.

But we want to get into today's conversation with our lovely guests.

So we have one of our most popular guests. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Catherine Carrigan.

She's in the studio.

As I mentioned, we are videotaping this, so we'll post it on all the social media outlets, but we'll also put it on my Shedding the Bitch YouTube channel, and then I'm sure Catherine will share it too, so you won't miss having an opportunity to see our lovely faces and to learn more about Reading the Soul. I am so excited. Uh, so in Reading the Soul, she's a medical intuitive healer, Miss Catherine Carrigan.

Reveal—

she reveals how you may be suffering from a wounded spirit The karmas your soul may be carrying from this or other lifetimes, which I believe in. The burden of negative spiritual energies and why traditional medicine or natural healing may not be working to clear what ails you. So, what is your soul's purpose? That is the objective of her book, Reading the Soul. Amazon.com. Go get it. You're not going to want to miss this particular bestselling book of the 10 she's written, and a number of them have been bestsellers. Now, if you want to hashtag with us, if you want to tweet and comment, whether that is on Twitter or Facebook or our blog, feel free to do so and use hashtag #ReadingTheSoul, hashtag #Transformation, and hashtag #ShedTheBitch.

Do you have any other special ones you use? Medical intuitive.

Medical intuitive, that's a good one. That's a good one. We'll get that added to the group. All right, I'm going to just take a very quick break and a little sip of water, and when we get back, we're going to dive into this conversation with Kathleen. We will be right back.

I didn't prepare for this at all other than getting here through the rain, so that's okay. This is going to go great. Oh, they do? Okay. You know.

You do radio.

Yeah.

Okay, I don't know why it's not working. We'll splice that in later. Get rid of that. Okay, we are back. Because obviously my commercial is not working. Not, uh, triggering off. So we're going to get right into this. How about it? You ready? And you're always ready. You said you're not ready. Yeah, you're always ready.

I love what I do.

Thank you. You love what you do, and that's what kind of just jumps off of the photos you have and the writings you do and all that kind of good stuff. So what is going on with your soul? Our guest author and medical intuitive can help you understand what's going on with you at the soul level, in internal, not external. Let's forget about all those external factors out there. This is about your soul. How does your soul communicate with you? What is your soul longing for? What is your soul truly longing for? And I have a lot of questions around that. What karma, soul wounds, or negative energies are holding you back? Now that's a big one I want you to all be thinking about as we talk through this. And what soul medicine works best for you? So take any one of those questions as your rich question for today's episode. And those rich questions are a big question that you can really ground yourself in paying attention to as we talk, so you get a little bit of self-awareness from every one of our episodes. Okay, all right. So as I mentioned, Katherine is a number one best-selling Amazon author and host of the Natural Healing Show for UK Health Radio.

In her 26 years—

she looks like she's 26 years old— working full-time in natural healing, she has worked with clients all over the world to empower them to heal themselves naturally without drugs. Key: natural without drugs. You can find Anything and everything you want to know about Kathryn, you can engage her, you can, you know, just reach out at KathrynCarrigan.com or go to UnlimitedEnergyNow.com. Kathryn's also the author of an online course, 8 Minutes to Inner Peace, people, 8 Minutes to Inner Peace, which teaches 8 simple breathing exercises to shift a person into a state of complete calm within 8 minutes. You can sign up for the online course at 8minutes2innerpeace.com. Let me tell you something, last time she was on our show, middle of last year I guess it was, uh, she brought one of her books for me, uh, and which I sat down to read, but I also took this 8 minutes because I was having actually a really hard time breathing. It was when I also had a cardiac situation last year, or yeah, that summer. All good. No worries. But felt like my breathing was off. So, I took this 8 minutes to inner peace. And I couldn't, I cannot even explain to you how quickly and how easily I was able to make some shifts. Not, I did not master any and all of them. But I was able to take pieces of them to where even today I pay attention to them. And I make sure that I. Kind of will go back to the book that you had given me was about the breathing.

Yes.

And so, 8minutes to innerpeace.com. Check out her online course. All right, her previous books— I need to run through this. Yes, she has a long bio. Bear with us, you want to know all about her. What Is Healing? Awaken Your Intuitive Power for Health and Happiness. Healing Depression: A Holistic Guide. Unlimited Energy Now. Banish the Blues Now. The Difference Between Pain and Suffering.

And because she can't—

she has so much expertise to share and she does so much to reach out to all of you, she also wrote a couple of books on social media. So What Is Social Media Today? Keywords, Hashtags, and You. Oh my. And then What Is Social Media Today? Get Ready to Win the Game of Social Media. So we were talking hashtags earlier. So those are 2 books you can also get a hold of. Now if you have any questions today, and I actually took down the studio for today simply because we were having technical issues and I did not want to kind of lose you. I didn't want BlogTalk to all of a sudden lose you. So if you have any questions, feel free to obviously post it on our Shedding the Bits page. Actually, just reach right out to Katherine. KatherineCarrigan.com and UnlimitedEnergyNow.com. Don't, like, sit there wanting to get some answers to something and feeling like, well, is she going to make, you know, make me pay? Is she going to respond to me? Is she going to do this? Is she going to do that? Just do it. Just do it. Okay. All right.

She is all over social media, so Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, YouTube.

KatherineCarrigan.com. Trust me, you want to be connected with her, but you want to be working with her. You want to be engaged with her, and she works with people all over the world. Okay, all right, so let's dive into this. Let's dive into this. So when I saw this, well, one, I also love, and I want everybody to check it out too, every image that she shares is of a beautiful floral arrangement. Just beautiful. So if you go to her website, it doesn't— you know, you don't even have to hit the tab, you know, once and you see all of her beautiful images. Before we get into this, where did that come from?

You know, that is actually my favorite orchid. It's a— if I can say this— it's a Brassavola cattleya. And anyway, it's a chartreuse cattleya. I got it originally at the Atlanta Botanical Garden, and it's actually blooming in my studio as we speak. So I think I got it in 2011, so I think I've had it for 9 years.

Nice.

And the photo on the COVID of Reading the Soul is my beautiful orchid in its glory, right, with 4 blooms. I mean, it's just so gorgeous, you can't even believe it was real.

It's beautiful. But the whole idea of the flowers, where'd that come from, of you always having those images?

Well, you know, first of all, I believe that we live in a beautiful world, and, you know, Einstein said the most important question is whether or not you consider the universe to be a friendly place. Now, the reason that's important is if you actually believe the universe is a friendly place, then you're going to be open to all the love and the support that is constantly available for you to 24/7, right? So that's a really good healing to do. It's a really good thought to adopt, is to know that the universe is a beautiful place. Now, in healing, all illness is slowed-down vibration. So if you've ever been in a nursing home, it's the easiest way to understand it, or even in a hospital. You know, you're in a nursing home for 5 minutes, you feel like you've been there for 3 hours, right?

Even visiting, let alone living or staying there. Yeah, visiting.

Yeah. So cold, yeah, you know, slow down vibration. Healing happens when you lift the vibration. And I happen to adore raising orchids. I have— I'm very blessed because my healing room is south-facing and full of light.

Beautiful.

And so orchids are the most evolved flowers on the face of the earth, you know, and your soul is who you really are, and it is evolved.— and it is evolving.

Nice. Check it out, katherinetaricus.com. You don't even have to scroll down an inch and you're going to see hundreds of these beautiful floral images. And every time she posts something, and every book of hers has this reflection, which is a reflection of her soul and spirit.

Beautiful.

All right, so why this particular topic at this particular time?

So, I'm a medical intuitive healer with 26 years full-time experience. When I do a medical intuitive reading, what I actually do is I read what's going on in your physical body, on your energy body, in the emotional, the mental, and the spiritual. Now, there are many wonderful systems of healing that help you assess what's going on on the physical level. You can go to the doctor. They can do blood work. You can get x-rays. You know, you can get an MRI. If you went to a naturopath, they have little machines that can read what's going on in your organs. But cutting to the chase, the reason that I wrote Reading the Soul is because you are a soul and you're having a spiritual experience 110% of the time. And your soul controls your mind, your mind controls your emotions, your emotions controls your energy, and your energy controls your physical body. So, in other words, what's happening in your physical is simply a result of what's going on, on all these other levels. So, up to now there was no system as you— as it was for sort of really helping you understand what's going on, on the soul level. But once you— again, once you understand that you're having a spiritual experience 100% of the time, then when things happen to you, whether it's in your work or your career— or in your physical body, again, that's a reflection of what you're doing at the soul level. So if you understand what's going on on the soul level and work at that level, it's the most powerful level to do any healing work, right?

Nice.

Yeah.

Nice.

And, you know, sometimes what's happening is you're manifesting what I call a breakdown to breakthrough. In other words, sometimes you've been living your life and you were doing a good job and everything was working, but your soul needs you to make a change, and your soul needs you to go in another direction. And I always say, God— and I hope it's okay if I use that word— only has to tap you on the shoulder when you're paying attention. You know, you get the bulldozer. Yes, you do, when you're not paying attention, right? So again, when you understand what's happening at the soul level, then that's directing all of your experience, including your health and your work and everything, right?

And now, you know, many of the people that I speak to, um, who are doing any type of work on themselves, they even have a hard time kind of tapping into— I, I want, I want to call them like layers. Yeah, yeah. And the soul's like the deepest layer. Yes, so they have a lot of chipping away to do. Yeah, exactly, a lot of chipping away. So what is one of those first things that, you know, they can do, our listeners can do, in regards to— even if they say, oh, this is, you know, this is exactly what I need, I want to know what my passion is, my purpose, my reason for being, uh, and that's lower than, you know, the subsurface, or the surface and the subsurface. You know, how do you kind of bring that out in them or allow them to bring it out in themselves?

Well, when I'm doing a medical intuitive reading, um, I kind of look at, you know, what's up for a person, and I read what's— again, we're right now, we're just going to be talking about the soul, right? Not these other ones, right? But I'm going to look at, you know, first of all, where you are in your spiritual development. So there's basically 3 stages. The first is, you know, you're alive but you're not aware. In other words, you're not connected to the fact that you're a soul, you know, or that you have a soul purpose or soul longing. So when you're a little kid, you're just doing your life, you're just being, you're just being.

Exactly, you're just existing.

And then you go through a process of what's called awakening. Which is like sometimes it's almost like, you know, the, the veil is lifted even just for a moment. It's like there's something bigger going on here, right? You know, and it, you know, the veil may lift and then go back, but you're in a process of awakening to who you really are. And then, you know, finally it's conscious, which is where you're aware that you're a soul, you're aware that you have spiritual purpose here, you know, and you're living your soul purpose. And to me, um, one of the things about working at the soul level is it really is where your joy resides, right?

I agree. I would agree with that, right?

So when you're living your soul purpose, you know, you're naturally led to what you're supposed to do, to the people that you're I'm supposed to interact with, right?

It feels right. Yes, even the challenges are like, okay, so I'm having a challenge, but I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, so I'll just overcome that challenge.

Yes, absolutely. So, you know, going back to those times of breakdown to breakthrough, you know, when you kind of put it in that perspective, it's like, why did I lose my job? Why did that marriage fall apart? You know, why is you know, did I get this horrible illness? Why did I manifest all this? Well, you may— your soul may be redirecting you to where it is that you are needing to be now. And it's not that what you went through before was wrong. One of the things that I talk to about my clients sometimes is that the concept of being complete— like, you went to high school. Well, I'm complete with high school. Like, I've done high school.

I don't need to go back.

I'm done. And same with college. I went to college. I'm done with that, right? And sometimes, you know, when you look at your life, it's like a book. There are chapters and you're complete with that. And now it's time for you to do something else. And it's only really difficult when we go kicking and screaming and it's like, well, but I was really happy over there.

Right.

Comfortable.

Comfortable. I was in my comfort zone, right?— and you may be, but you want to be open to the possibility that you may be happy over there, or even happier.

People are scared of happiness, aren't they? Yeah, they are. They are. Isn't it?

Yeah.

Do you find that with your clients, that they're actually kind of hesitant and skeptical and, you know, kind of scared?

Yes. Well, you know, uh, in some of my books, I talk about how there's 25 different ways that you can be addicted to pain. Okay, and you know, this is very, very common. So we're, you know, you're— I, I always joke the biggest cult in the world is difficult, right? It's difficult to be healthy. It's difficult to lose weight. It's difficult to earn a living. It's difficult to be wealthy, right? So you want to— if you've been, um, stuck in a challenge, shall we say,— you want to look at where am I addicted to being in pain? You know, why, why is, what's this about, right? And, um, but pain addiction is very, very common.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have looked at it as pain. Uh, you're kind of making me get whacked in the face. I wouldn't have looked, looked at it as pain. Um, I definitely liked, I always played the devil's advocate. I always like looked at the worst scenario of something happening because I thought that then I'd be prepared for it. You know, if I, if I think the worst case today, right now, at this moment, and it happens— I kept— I tried to— I convinced myself for decades that, oh well, then I'll be ready for it. So I'll always look at it from the negative, you know, the worst case scenario, right? And, you know, it was exhausting. So, when I kind of went through my shedding process, I kind of let all that go, recognizing that, yeah, that wasn't doing squat for me.

Yeah, and you know, I've got two comments about that. One of the things that we know is that whatever you focus on expands. Key thing, you know, and I'll— you know, I know we're talking about my book, Reading the Soul, but I'll just talk about something really simple that I do, okay, having to do with money. Because I know your listeners are interested in that. And you know, there's something called unconsciously confident, and then you're— in other words, you're doing the right thing and you don't realize what you're doing, and then you become consciously confident. So what I did for a long time was that I always visualized that at the end of the week on Friday, I would have a certain amount of money in my QuickBooks, and I would literally visualize it. I visualized the amount,— and it's a reasonable amount, it's not like I expect $1 million to show up in my account on Friday— but I would just visualize that and I would hold it in my mind. And what I noticed was that, you know, we always have good weeks, bad weeks. No matter what, by the end of the day Friday, I always have that amount of money in my account. So then when I realized, I'm like, I— gosh, I'm doing that and it works, I thought, you know, I need to start doing that with my investments. So I have an amount that I have in my mind about what I see, and I've literally visualized my Morgan Stanley statement with that amount, and it works every time. And I've reset the amount multiple times. So going back to what we were talking about, what you focus on literally expands, you know. So if you want to have more money, you literally visualize your QuickBooks, your accounting statements, with the amount of money that you want to have there, right? Right. And you literally see it. You see it in all its detail, right? All right. And you can see yourself being healthy and happy and at your ideal size and wearing the right outfit. Maybe one you shouldn't be wearing for your age, but— Yeah, exactly. Something you feel comfortable with. But the second part about what you said is that we all have a shadow, right? So, you have a soul, right? And you have a shadow. So, what exactly is your shadow? Your shadow is the negative aspect of your ego. The shadow is the part of you that says you aren't, you're not good enough. I don't know about other people, but you aren't. 'You're not good enough, you don't have enough, you don't know enough, you'll never make it,' yada yada yada, right? Oh, I mean, and so, you know, like our— I know our energy is just—

yeah, yeah.

Now you have a shadow. Again, you're not your shadow, but what happens is a lot of people allow their shadow to rule their life, all right? And if you allow your shadow to rule your life, the part that's like you're not good enough, yada yada, that's again, that's what you're going to experience, right? Right. And in my book, Reading the Soul, I talk about how you see other people's shadow. Because when you go into other people's shadow, yes, when you go into— in other words, you know, yes, you— we want to be all sweetness and light, but we also want to realize that evil actually exists, right? And there are people who want to take advantage of you and use you and stuff like that. So how do you go about seeing other people's shadow? But, you know, speaking— yeah, speaking for yourself, I mean, because I've had clients and they walk in and they go, you know, well, I just blew $100,000. And I'm like, well, you know, this person just ripped you off, and I can see it, and here's why, right? So you want to be able to see that. But as far as your own self again, you don't want your limited ego to rule your life because if you do, it will ruin your life, right? And you know, I'll share this for your audience. There's a very simple little technique from kinesiology that you can use to tell your shadow it's not in charge. Yeah. And I have a client, um, she has two little boys, and every day— and they're frankly, little hellions. So every day she does this little thing on them so that they're— they don't, you know, leave the house with their shadow in charge. Ah, but what you do is on the left temple, you just simply make a little circle, and you can draw it in any direction, and then you put an X through it. And that is a little healing technique from kinesiology, and it just tells your shadow, you know, you're not going to be allowed in here. Yeah, you know, thanks for sharing that, you know, you think I'm not good enough and I don't have enough and I'm not enough and I'll never be enough, but I'm going to let my soul be in charge now, right? So you want to— so going back to what we're saying is you want to spend time visualizing what you want to create and creating that as in as great a detail as you can in your mind, and then when your shadow, when she shows up, you know, and you recognize her, you know, and you'll know she's there because she's negative, it's like you just go, "Oh, thanks for sharing," right, you know, and I'm going to just tell her to just have a seat. And I'm going to let— so cool. Yeah. And then I'm going to let my soul be in charge because my soul is driving the bus and my soul has a purpose even if I haven't figured it out yet, right? And my soul has longing, and I'm going to just really spend time listening and going in that direction. Awesome.

Now, but I have this question that's been running through my head. So the soul, because that's what we're talking about, Reading the Soul. Check it out, Amazon or katherinecarrigan.com, which will then take you to Amazon. Uh, check it out. Awesome. I'm so excited. This is my copy and I'm going to be reading it. Uh, but so we've talked about the fact that soul is the furthest down and you have to start chipping away. Help Paint a picture for our audience around how do your clients know, like, what are they going through? What are they dealing with? You did mention the $100,000 person, but what are they dealing with where they say, I need to go to Katherine and work with her on this versus on one of those other layers? Or are these people, you feel, on the higher level and they are chipping away and now they're still at the salt, they're still needing to work on the salt?

Okay, well, great question. Well, first of all, when I do a medical intuitive reading, I read the 5 levels. Physical, energetic, emotional, mental, and spiritual. Because here's the deal, whatever you're experiencing is always happening on all 5 levels. So I don't think anybody's a lesser person if you stub your toe or you have a rash or, you know, you have an eye problem or whatever, because again, it's happening on all 5 levels.

And you say that because— by putting it into— because you, you're so accustomed to talking this You're— what you're saying is if you get up, get up in the morning in a crappy mood, it's no wonder that then your body feels achy and you're distracted, or your, your mind's all screwed up, and you're very— you, you might be wearing your emotions on your sleeve, and your, your soul might be a little dark today, you know, spiritually. That's what you're getting at, is it's why all those 5 levels are affected, right? Well, is that right? Is that—

well, again, when I'm, you know, people come to me to solve problems, right? And, and so part of the reason I feel that I can really supercharge their healing is because I'm looking at all 5 levels. And I have great respect for doctors. My brother's a doctor, my dad's a doctor, my grandfather's a doctor, my great-grandfather, my uncle was a doctor, and they help, but they're only working with on the physical. So going back to, you were asking about getting up in the morning. Well, I wake up very consciously because when you wake up in the morning, you're literally setting your vibration for the whole day, right?

Absolutely. I absolutely agree with this whole subject right now.

Yeah, so I wake up, you know, I open my eyes in bed, I start praying immediately. My mantra, my personal mantra, is the Lord's Prayer. I meditate, right? You know, Friday I had a great day at work and I had wonderful meditation. So before I started— so when you start your day very consciously putting yourself in the highest vibration that you can, then you get to live your whole life that way, right? You know, and then you, then you follow your guidance in everything, right? Your guidance will never steer you wrong, right?

If—

well, some people are, aren't great listeners to it though, right? Some people don't necessarily, or they don't want to because it might be touching them in a place that they're not, yeah, you know, comfortable with.

Well, there I have two, two comments. Number one, you have to understand how your soul communicates to you because there's four different methods of, um, of psychic information reading. That's all reading the soul. Now, one of my books is called Unlimited Intuition now, and it talks about those 4 different kinds of intuition. Alright, because if you— I remember when I started studying healing work, my mentor in healing said you want to understand how you receive information, otherwise you just end up second-guessing yourself. Okay, but in the 4 different ways are claircognizance, clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentience. Now that may be a bit technical— but here's what I want you to understand. Because you are a soul, your soul is always, always, always trying to communicate with you. And it's just a matter of, okay, how do I get information? And then the— and then the second part of all that is really learning to trust yourself, right? And, and here's the truth: the only person you ever have to trust is yourself, right?

Absolutely.

Because when you trust yourself, then you'll know this is the right time to do this, so this is not the right time to do this, right?

Right.

So when my book came out, um, Reading the Soul, it came out in December. It was published December 8th. And usually I release all three versions of my book— the paperback, the ebook, and the audiobook— at the same time. And I had been waiting for the audiobook to be finished, and everybody's like, well, just wait till January. And I tuned in, I was like, no, no, no. Well, my wonderful narrator, who is— this is her, I think, her 7th book that she's narrating now— she had 2 emergency surgeries. Oh. And then, you know, we had some issues. Anyway, it's still not out. And I listened, everybody's like, wait till January. My guidance said no.

Put it out now.

Put it out now.

The audio will follow.

And the audio will follow. And that's what's going on. So again, you want to really learn to trust yourself. And part of the way that you learn to trust yourself is by developing a healthy relationship with yourself, right?

Yep.

And, you know, many people, um, have a very ego-based relationship with their self. And there's 4 primary dramas. Poor me. When you're poor me, you know, you're always talking about, you know, being the victim and I'm too tired, I'm too busy, nothing ever works out to me. Intimidator. When you're the intimidator, you're bullying yourself. Like, why haven't you got this figured out yet? You know, why aren't you a millionaire yet? Why haven't you lost those 30 pounds yet? What's wrong with you anyway? Right?

Ah, right.

Yeah, a loop is disconnected by yourself. Yeah, I did a healing yesterday from— with a very spiritual person. He actually is a spiritual teacher here in Atlanta, but he had disconnected from his physical body. And I said to him, I said, I know you had a lot of abuse when you were younger, and your, uh, safety mechanism was to disconnect. Right, sure, right.

And so, well, yeah, exactly, we all used to—

yeah, a lot of us have done that one where you just, you know, get out of your body, disconnect, disconnect from how you feel, right? Um, so anyway, intimidator, poor me, intimidator, aloof. Yeah, and interrogator, interrogator. Yeah, and the interrogator is the smart aleck. Like, you should have done that better. You know, you, you know, you think you'd only— you only think you did well, but you could have done that.

Oh, mercy.

Right, there's a second-guessing yourself. So when you have, um, a healthy relationship with your true self, then you hold yourself with compassion. It's like, you know, It's been a hard week, it's been rainy every day, it's okay my hair doesn't look good, I'm alright, you know, right? And you hold yourself with compassion and you give yourself, you create space in your life to really listen at that soul level.

Is it, and this is coming from, you know, a personal question, but I'm sure my listeners would want to hear it too.

But is it possible to—

and I totally understand and get consciousness, um, and being very self-aware. And, you know, the minute things start talking to you, you know, many of those emotions and, you know, that shadow starts creeping in, you kind of want to shut it down. Um, but you're not— are you saying that someone could be so evolved to where they never are being poor me, intimidating, interrogating, or aloofing themselves?

You know, great question. So first of all, we're all human, right? I put my pants on one pant leg at a time. I remember years ago this U.S. Senator, former U.S. Senator, had an appointment with me, and I got really nervous, and I cleaned the house, you know, spick and span. And then Fran said, you know, you put your pants on one leg at a time. So, you know, we're all human. And, you know, again, you just— to me, one of the biggest words that I like to use is compassion. So you want to have compassion when your shadow shows up, when your poor me shows up, all these different aspects. You really want to ask yourself, you know, Why is she showing up again?

Right.

You know, I thought I fixed that.

All right, right, right, right, right.

Um, one of my books, Unlimited Energy Now, I went into meditation and I got that it needed to have a spiral on it. Well, life energy, if you study life energy, you say chi or prana, it literally moves in spirals. Okay, your chakras spin clockwise, your cells spin clockwise. When your cells spin counterclockwise toxins drive deeper into the cells and you get cancer. That's part of what's happening when you have cancer is the cells are going counterclockwise. So all healthy living energy, the galaxies, sunflowers, the universe, hurricanes, it all moves in this counterclockwise— in this clockwise pattern, right? So sometimes you think, you know, I, I thought I healed that eating disorder, but then there's some little, little shadow that comes up again, right? I thought I fixed all my money problems, and then here it is again. Like, we're coming around again, and it's— you're never quite in the same place, right? Right.

It's different each time, but at the same time—

yeah. And it doesn't mean that the work that you did didn't work. It means that you're, you're moving along the spiral, and there's another layer that's coming up.

Right.

Well, and I think what you're also pointing out too, um, and her books, I'm telling you, will help you understand this, is that all of this information that we're talking about is giving us tools and, you know, tips and techniques that so when we do get into a situation again, we draw them out, back out, and go, oh wait a minute, let I had this situation before or something similar, and yet this is what the steps that I've taken, or this is the work that I've done, or this is the phone call I need to make to Catherine. So it's also saying, okay, you may never have a day that— or not a day, but life is ups and downs. We're not robots is what I always say. We're not robots. We're full of the soul and the mind and emotions. And the body and things that are going to get sometimes. What we need to do is just find those tools and those techniques that will allow us to address them effectively and, and take on the least amount of impact, right? You know, for the shortest amount of time. Yeah.

And, you know, to me, one of the simple ways to do this is to literally live your life from your soul. So how do you do that? You know, again, there's several things. One is you want to understand how your soul communicates with you. For me, I'm claircognizant, which is psychic knowing, where you just know stuff. That's the same gift that Edgar Cayce had. Um, most people are either clairsentient, which is psychic feeling, where you feel the energy, right? You read the energy.

Okay.

And they— there's something, I think it goes something like, you know, energy doesn't lie, you know, trust the vibes that you get. Energy doesn't lie. So when you're clairsentient, you want to pay attention to the energy, right? And there— and then there's clairvoyance, where you get pictures, right? I'm seeing a vision of where I need to be. I'm seeing a vision of where I don't need to be, right?

Right, right, right.

And then there's clairaudience, which is the reception of information by words and vibrations. The thing about being clairaudient— I think you're clairaudient.

I am.

Yes, it's easy to confuse the direction you get with your own thoughts.

Right.

But again, your soul is always going to be encouraging. If it's scary or threatening, that's your shadow.

Right. Yeah. Fascinating, isn't it? Fascinating, fascinating. Now remind me of— remind everyone of the book that goes through those 4—

Unlimited Intuition Maps.

Limited Intuition Now.

Yeah, and that book talks about the different gifts. And, you know, I always joke it's like being a blonde or brunette.

Okay, there's—

I mean, there's upside—

or redhead.

Yeah, or redhead. Exactly, or redhead. So, you know, there's upsides and downsides to everything. So, for example, when you're clairsentient, it's very easy to confuse, uh, other people's energy and emotions with your own energy and emotions. So these are the kind of people, they can stand next to somebody in Walmart and come out grumpy, right? Yeah, you know, or they're living in a house with their children or spouse and they're processing other people's emotions. So with clairsentience, you've got to like really tune in and go, how do I feel, right?

Yep. So fascinating. Well, and it's interesting that you say that I'm audio, um, because I recognized over the last 6 or 7 years, it's where I, you know, kind of come up with this word, words matter. It's like I really have gotten tuned into the words people use and the words that I use, quite honestly. And now do a lot of coaching. I even had Comcast here the other day and he was leaving and he was like, well, you know, your service should be up and running. I went, should? You just spent an hour and a half here. It's not—

it shouldn't—

should— it should be up and running now. He's like, oh yeah, you're right, that doesn't make sense. Well, I hope you have a good— hope that I have a good day.

Yeah, people looking at me like, what are you doing, lady?

Okay, so we have karma and how that kind of all ties in with one's ability to read the soul. Their own soul? What would you share with us around that?

Okay, so, you know, here's the, you know, karma. It's almost— that's almost like a technical term. So here's the simplest way to understand karma.

We like simple, don't we?

Yeah, I like simple. So I always say the most selfish thing I can ever do is be kind and generous to everybody around me because whatever I put out is what's going to come back, right? Yep. So whatever you put out into the universe is going to come back to you, right? So when you could put out good work, it's going to come back to you, right?

Yep.

Right, true. So, um, so karma is the result. It's kind of like mathematics, you know, 2 2 4. So karma is the result of the energy that you have put out in this lifetime as well as other lifetimes. Okay. And sometimes I've had clients— I remember years ago working with this lady who had recovered from alcoholism, okay, and she had really done a great job. She'd been clean and sober for 7 years. And I remember we were doing the healing and she said, 'Catherine, it's like I swept that floor and I swept that floor and I swept that floor.' what's that for? And I'm like, okay, you've cleared everything from this lifetime, but then you have some karma from past lifetimes. So there's many different kinds of karmas that you could be carrying forward. One of them actually is the karma of addiction, right? Okay. And a lot of people think, well, drug addiction or alcohol or whatever. There's workaholism and food addiction. There's many, many different kinds of addiction. Another big karma is actually the karma of slavery, right?

Karma of slavery, right?

So many people have lived as slaves in past lives, and again, you want to be compassionate about it because maybe 200 years ago, if you were a slave, you actually had value. Somebody took care of you. Now, I'm not condoning slavery. I think racism is wrong, slavery is wrong.

So yeah, let's make sure we get that clear.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is that at a soul level, you're used to working for nothing, right?

Right.

You're used to being treated like a slave, right? I know somebody right now who is absolutely manifesting and living and living out the karma of slavery, right?

Damn.

Yeah. So, um, there's many, many different kinds. Heart scars. Uh, this is heart scars. Yes, this is where you suffered ones that go not just to the level of, you know, they're not just emotional, they go all the way to the level of your soul, right? Um, a karma of emotional starvation where you are just so used to like taking care of everybody else and you're not used to— you don't even know how to nurture yourself emotionally.

I know a lot of those people. Yes, majority of them were women.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, so it's a karma of emotional starvation where even if somebody tries to be kind to you or generous to me— to you, you're like, you know, I'm used to like withering over here, withering in the corner, right, right, right, right. Um, so, and there's many past life vows that people have taken. Common past life vow is This is not a fun one. Poverty, chastity, right? And obedience, right?

So when you say a vow, they in some life previous to where their body is right now—

yeah, they took a vow of chastity and poverty. So if that's your life and you've done all this relationship coaching and all this money coaching and you're still like single and poor then you have to look at, well, what happened? Like, did I make some sort of soul agreement, right? You know, that I'm going to give all— give it all up for the church or—

right, something else, right? Something else. So, okay, so when you— when you're saying that, um, especially the past life thing, um, so some people— and I've had a number of conversations with people around this— some people look at it as Well, our ancestors, our ancestors, our ancestors. What you're saying is not just the ancestors, ancestors, ancestors. You're saying, because I definitely believe in past life regression, yeah, um, that your soul has lived before.

Yes.

And it's carried forward, you know. And, and how I've always understood it is carried forward until you've learned everything that your soul is meant to learn.

Yes.

And then you're kind of Yes.

So, and so if I clear karma, and not to be too technical, I'm going to check layers of karma. Um, one layer is on the mental level where you haven't learned your lesson. You just keep doing the same thing.

Insanity, right?

Exactly. Expecting a different result, right? Then there is the DNA level.— where you're carrying forward.

Yeah, sure. Right? Sure.

You know?

So, that's easier for people to understand. Yes.

Coming from their DNA. Right. And, um, there's things called genomes, which are even genetic thought patterns, right? So, genetic thought pattern and when you— when you look at that, you have to look at did it come through my mother's side or my father's side? So, you look at, you know, let's take money for example. So let's say that in your family that women didn't have any money, or they didn't have any power, or they didn't have any money and power, right? And then you go all the way back, you know, through the generations to find where it started. So anyway, so karma on the mental level, on the DNA level, there's karmic contracts, okay? And there's three kind of karmic contracts. So I may be here to help you you may be here to help me, or we may be here to help each other, right? And a lot of us get very attached to fair, like, I did this for this, and I'm supposed to get it back, right? Well, when you look at in a karmic contract, you know, we may have had a soul agreement, and I'm here to help you, and I don't get anything back in return, and that's okay, right? So you have to look at, if you do have a soul contract with somebody, what kind of soul contract it is. And realize that at a soul level you agreed to help that person. Yeah, and that's okay. And finally, there's karma that goes all the way to the level to your core soul, and that's very, very deep. So you've been doing this pattern for a really, really long time, and it's usually a place of very deep woundedness, right?

So now I— now we can get a picture of should you be in a situation where any of this relates to you as far as where you might be and what you might be dealing with. Um, you know, why you absolutely need to get a hold of Catherine. Um, because you— and you could probably feel it in her energy, because I always get energized when I'm with her. I get calmed actually too, you know. I get all my wires, you know, kind of go, ooh, just kind of, you know, rest. Not rest, but just kind I'm just gonna calm down.

It's okay.

Yeah, so, and I don't even do caffeine, you know, which is wild. Um, wow, this time flies every time that you're here with us. Okay, so, um, one, kathrynkerrigan.com. I want you to look up her book, Reading the Soul. I don't want you to just look it up, I want you to buy it. Um, the other books, take a look at those as well, especially the where it describes the 4—

Soul Gifts.

Thank you, Soul Gifts. And that was the Unlimited Intuition. Yeah, and look at that. But, um, on Amazon, on her author page, you can read through a description of all of her various books. Um, and let me give you a tip, an additional tip.

I've been reading—

I've been getting a book, and this is going to be my next one, and then taking 5 minutes in the morning. Like she said, I also get up get conscious, pray, meditate. And then I get up and I do readings. And one part of it's my devotion, daily devotion, and then the other is 5 minutes of a spiritual book. So, you know, get her book and take a read. And whether you spend 5 minutes with it or you read it in one sitting, um, just do it. All right, in the next like 2 minutes, what would you leave our listeners with.

You'll, you will survive everything that happens to you until you don't. And once you kind of just get that, then, you know, give yourself permission to have courage. Um, the second thing I would say is listen. Take time to listen to your soul every day because your soul will always guide you in the right direction. There's so many times, even me, a professional intuitive, I get guidance, and I'm like— and I— my ego argues with myself, like, are you sure? Sure. And I'll ask the same question in different ways and get the same answer. If you're asking the same question in different ways and getting the same answer, it's definitely your soul. So, and then finally, trust yourself, right? If you feel like someone is not right or that you shouldn't do something or not go someplace. It can— absolutely listen to your soul.

It's horrible when you hear those situations, right, where someone says, gosh, something was telling me not to do that, and here I got myself into a situation. Or, yeah, you know, or, oh yeah. So no, I would absolutely agree. And once again, Katherine Kerrigan rocks it for you. I'm so excited.

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Uh, kathrynkaragat.com. Reading the Souls, her latest. And I'm— is it a bestseller already, or is it working its way there?

Yes. Yeah.

Yes, yes. And check out all of her books, all right? Because she mentioned don't be— or have courage. She mentioned have courage.

Have courage to ask for help.

Have courage to reach out and say, Kathryn, this is what I'm dealing with.

Because check it out, I mean, you can trust—

she builds a very safe environment, a very loving environment with her orchids. So have that courage as well to not only take care of yourself but reach out for help to get, you know, to get yourself where you want it to be. All right, so thank you so much. Love it, love it. And next week we're talking about Lessons of a Bitch. You're gonna not want to miss that.

You know what I meant.

All right, everybody, have a rich process week, and I will see you right back here at noon Eastern time next Tuesday for another episode of Shedding the Bitch.

Thanks, everybody.