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In this interview excerpt, Speaker A asks Speaker B about the idea that the most important question is not "what do I need to do to achieve my goals?" but rather "who am I becoming?" Speaker B explains that she previously measured success with finite, numeric metrics, which caused her to ignore the journey. As an entrepreneur, leader, and woman, she realized that the process of self‑discovery, including failures, mistakes, and the resilience required, holds far more value than any single milestone. She describes a conscious shift in mindset: focusing on how she frames failures, reshaping goals into intentions that prioritize the process, learning, and the development of "muscle memory" for future challenges. This reframing gives her confidence and stability for higher aspirations, because each misstep becomes a source of growth rather than a setback.

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