Guy Ferdman on the Future of Personal Development and How We Can Change Our Life in a Moment

Welcome to Make More Marbles. My name is Brad Hart, and we're here to interview the game changers, the future makers, the co collaborators and creators who are here to collaborate with one another towards a better future for all of us. Enjoy the show. We've got a great guest coming up for you right now. Welcome to Make More Marbles. My name is Brad Hart, and today I am joined by Guy Ferdman. What's up, guys?

What's up, my brother? If you could bring that issue, too.

It brings the fire.

I love it. You should have seen my cattle maker.

Yeah, your cattle.

My cat's like, okay, dad, ease up. Usually you're pretty mellow.

Kitties love me, but I have the kitty sniffles. So, like, the thing about cats and people who behave like cats, which is, you know, another thing, is that when you ignore them, they come closer to you. So, like, I ignore them because I'm allergic, and then they come and they nuzzle me and all that stuff. Dogs. I love dogs. I don't hate cats. I don't dislike cats. I just can't be around them because I'm miserable for the next few days.

So, so true about them, though. They will. They will always find the one allergic person and walk right up to them. They.

They know it. They always know I don't know what it is. All right, Guy, tell me about Satori Prime. What's that all about?

Oh, baby. Yeah. Well, let me take you back a little bit further first.

Yes. The hero's journey.

Go. Yeah, we'll make it. Dance, dance, dance.

I got the Tom Cru.

Hey, this is the first for me. There's a guy interviewing me, and he's just all over the place. I'm his Katie. Whatever her last name was. Yeah. So I was, you know, like. Like most people just going through hardship. Like you said, zero to hero story. But from, like, 12 to 19, I was depressed, suicidal. All the fun things that nobody really wants to look at or deal with. And now being way on the opposite side of it. I'm super appreciative of that time in my life. It's given me a great deal of contrast and empathy, sympathy and experiences from being someone who is ready to lay with bedrock to being where I am today in life. 19 years old, I go into the Landmark Forum, if you know what that is.

Oh, yeah.

So for those of you guys who know Landmark Education and I had never done any personal development work, didn't really know what the forum was, I basically, like, tripped and fell in there nearly accidentally. And When I got in there and they started talking about what it is, I'm like, this is stupid and hokey, but I was desperate and desperate for change. After seven years of doing that to yourself, I was desperate. So for those who have gone through the Forum, you know what happened Sunday night. But Saturday night, I'm walking back. I was still in school in Boston, and I had this long back, long walk back to. From Quincy Market all the way back to downtown. And I had this thought from something they said over there, which was they had done this beautiful distinction of how the mind seamlessly creates stories and we're not really dealing with reality. So I'm having this what happened? Story? Kind of distinction on my left and right shoulder and specifically around a death that I watched of this guy die that was really close to me when I was 13 years old. And I remembered a decision that I made in that moment. I won't go into the whole story, but let's say I started walking down these stairs, and in a split second, I had realized that I had created a story when this individual died. And that had been driving. It probably wasn't the source of what happened, but it had catalyzed this experience for about six years. And I saw in the moment that I can either indulge in the story or I can release it and find out who I am, because that story had determined who I am. And I literally remember walking about halfway down those stairs to the subway. Right foot gets off the one stair. By the time it hits the next stair, completely different human being, like, just black and white, just had, like. And the reason I said all this is because that's why we call the company Satori prime, because the. If you guys know what satori means, it means a moment of enlightenment. And for me, that was a sudden, very sudden moment of enlightenment from, like, the weight of the world on my shoulders to literally floating over the ground. Because the moment I released that story, my physiology started changing, and I was, like, vibrating a different frequency. And it was immediately evident to me, me. So that the reason I'm telling you all this is that happened at 19. And from the moment that happened, I was so taken by the experience that I started immediately envisioning and imagining a world where people got. We got to induce these experiences for people and these sudden enlightenment experiences. And I thought to myself, what would it look like? Because I was living in Northeast, I'm like, what would it look like to walk down a New York City street where everyone had that, where you can walk up to Somebody, like, on your way to a job interview, you know, simple shit. And you walk up to someone, you're like, hey, I'm having a really bad day. Would you mind taking a moment with me? Like, in New York City. Imagine that, right? Just stopping someone on the street being like, hey, you got a minute? I'm having, like, a rough day. And you just do this, like, quick share exercise, back and forth. I'm on my way to an interview. I'm really scared. Here's what I'm letting go. Here's what I'm creating. And the person's like, love it. Go get them. For me, that was like envision of a completely different world. So I had always kind of kept that in the back of my mind that that's. That's what I wanted to do. This is who I wanted to be. And I spent about a decade in that ethos training myself, like, around that. That work. And then somewhere at 27 years old, I know you only asked me one question. Here I am talking for like 15 minutes.

No, it's good. I like spinning people up like a top and letting them go.

I can do this. I can do this. So, you know, that was 19. You know, fast forward eight years later, I put myself in a lot of leadership development programs. And the one thing I never thought that would happen is I would become someone who thought of themselves as a leader. Certainly not somebody who can make a difference for a large population of people. And suddenly that just started. I had certain experiences, and it became obvious that what I was sharing was I was sharing it, in a way, creating impact for people. And it wasn't like the average way people were sharing work. This was, like, immediately making these really fast changes for people. And people were grateful to me. Like, I had saved their cat from a tree or their mom from cancer and all these different things. And I had to really start owning that. It's very likely that I'm gonna have to be a leader the rest of my life. Oh, man.

I have to keep doing this now.

Yeah. Like, oh, shit, right? But you know what? It's always fed me. And at 27, I was like, you know what? Enough sitting on the sidelines. I was in commercial real estate, making good money. The entire economy imploded. And I had this company that I helped build to $100 million under asset at some point. Again, making good money for someone my age at 24, 25, making about six figures and lost everything. Moved back in with my parents, my brother at the same time, same thing. House is in foreclosure. First kid is on the way. I went to go work for this small bank to, like, start my book of business again. And I remember like, sitting there going, what are you doing? I'm like, this, this is the opportunity. Like, you know, why? Why go start something that you despise? So I walked into the guy who hired me, maybe after three, four weeks after he hired me, and I said, hey, I really want to thank you for this opportunity because I know it's a really bad economy. I'm like, but if I stay here one more day, I'm kill myself. So I'm like, I think I'm done with this industry. And I walked out of there and you just did your little Jerry Maguire thing. But, like, I literally, like, was in my car and I just felt that sense of, that's it. This is the moment I get to make a shift. I had $400 in the bank. I wanted to learn how to get online and do marketing because I knew that I had something to share that was important. And I was clear I was not going to do that. Walking down Main street, it cost $397 to get started with the program. I thought that was very divine. I have just that amount of money. I got started, I was sure I was gonna make millions of dollars instantaneously. Of course, that did not happen. And I got really good at online marketing. I used to be considered one of the best Facebook marketers in the world. That was a while back. And I always knew that we would eventually, when I got myself to a place where I could, like, what I would do is become a personal development, spiritual development type of company. Creating experiences for people in a way that what happened to me would happen to them. Like, it just shocked to the brain, shock to the heart of how much more beautiful life can actually be. So today, for the last two and a half years, that's been all we've done. So I kind of transitioned a company from like this affiliate marketing company more to this, like a developmental company. And that's kind of been what we've been up to for about two years now. Coming up to two years, I would say actually, like, flat out. And that's my life's work. So I'm not just here to, like, make a few programs. I want to be part of a really large conversation for social change, which probably eventually means owning, actually going after certain, like, large leadership roles, like reconstruction of government and what. And redefining what it means to be a leader in the world and not in the way that we see today, where it's like, let's create opposition and fear. I mean, like, let's enroll people and empower people in a way that just blows their minds. Because they've never even. They've never even heard these conversations before. So that's what we're up to now.

I love it. And you've obviously done a lot of landmark. I've done basic or not basic, but the forum and advance, and I signed up for Self, but it didn't quite jive with the whole scheduling around the world thing. But what are some of the other personal development routes you've gone down, if any? And what do you recommend for other people to check out?

Yeah, I've run the gamut. I've worked with shamans a lot over the last four years. I probably have about 40 ayahuasca experiences under my belt. Eboga combo. You name it, I probably tried it. And not for any other reason, really, than to tell people that, hey, this is a good resource for you at this time, if you feel called to it. So I've done a lot of the ethereal stuff. I've sat in silent meditation for 10 days at a time. Breathwork, you know, like, really anything in between. All sorts of developmental programs. Nlp, you know. Well, read late into my life, I would say. By the way, can you hear the background noise or.

It's okay, a little bit, but.

Okay, I can ask her to cut that out. Are you gonna edit this? No. Okay, fuck it then. It's gonna be in there now.

Yep. It's in the blockchain.

It's in the blockchain, guys. Yeah. So, I mean, what would I recommend? Look, so we live in Southern California, and as you know, this is like the femme energy, right? The New York City is like the masculine energy.

So are you from New York, by the way? I grew up in New York.

I'm a New Yorker. Yeah. I grew up 15 minutes outside of Manhattan. Israeli background. So, like, directness is kind of my thing. Yeah. So when I came out here, look, there's a lot of really, really good work happening in Southern California. And it's very much based in body and heart work. And that's beautiful and amazing. Except what I find out here is people don't know how to produce, so. And it's because they're. It's because their mind is telling them a lot of stories, and they can't seem to quite. Hey, love. Hey, love. Can I ask you to actually tell her to shut that down? Can you actually ask her to shut that down? Yeah, please. Sorry about that, guys. You know, welcome to life. Yeah. So, you know, when I came out here, one of the things I just started seeing is that people don't know how to implement very well. And then the east coast, like, people are really good at producing, but they're not in their bodies at all and they're speaking from their mind and there's not a lot of heart connection. So my question has been like, how do we, how do we connect those two realm so that it's functional for people that they're not like, hey, I'm this artist, I'm the spiritual guru, I gotta stand up the mountain. It's like, no, you get to be the spiritual guru, the artist, and make billion dollars if you want to do it. And those don't live. Thank you. And those don't live in contrast with one another, right? So they can live together, they can coexist together. And there's nothing not spiritual about living in abundance. I think that's just crazy to me that so many artists and spiritual people don't, don't live in a life in abundance. So right now, like my work is okay. If your mind isn't handled, I might talk to you, right? I'll ask you a few questions about your life, we'll see how you're doing. But it's like, if I went to go take dance classes for the first time and I want to learn how to salsa, and I go to a salsa professional, they're going to be like, all right, show me what you got. Now, if I suck at salsa, they're probably going to start with counting the steps. 1, 2, 3, 4. 1, 2, 3, four. I'm going to be looking at my feet, you know, all in my head about it. But eventually I do enough of it, I'm going to stop counting. Eventually I'm going to do enough of it, I'll be looking at my partner's eyes and eventually I'll dance the salsa. But I'm not going to dance the salsa like anybody else dances the salsa. I. I'm going to dance the salsa the way guy dances the salsa. For me, that's how personal development is too. There's no one size fits all, and everybody's going to dance it their own way. So the best thing I can do is not really tell you what's the best thing to do out there. What's the latest and hottest. It's. Let me talk to you and figure out how you dance, okay? If your mind is in the way of you moving your body the way that you want it to move because you don't know how to be purely self expressed and stopping you. All right, well, let's handle the mind. Once I know you have good competency that you're not telling yourself stories that are locking you down. Great. Now let's get you into the body. Let me show you how to visualize. And then take that vibrational frequency and match it in the body. So your subconscious is working for you. And that's kind of the work that we do these days.

Yeah, it's beautiful. And it harkens back to a lot of what Tony Robbins teaches. Best peak performance coach in the world. Right. You can get something intellectually, but until you get it in your body, until you wire and fire it enough with emotion, until it's a habit, then you don't even have to think about it. It's not really your habit. And your habits ultimately create your reality. Right. And what I'm noticing more and more, and I share a lot of what you said, you know, I believe a lot of what you said as far as coming from New York, being a producer, having to make it in that city and what that makes you become versus, you know, living your head, you're dead. My name is Hart, by the way. And I'm always reminded that I'm living in my head. God has a little nice touch every once in a while. It just hurts me massively just because I'm in my head for whatever reason, I get to relearn that lesson. But coming out here to California has been a different type of animal. And is that heart centered place that's mellowed me out quite a bit. I've been here almost five years with some bouncing around the world in between and noticing just that the things that people value here and then ultimately the things that they value become their beliefs and become their thoughts and become the things that they say, the things that they do and become their habits and become their reality. They seem to have this dissonance between okay, what is the thing I'm envisioning or manifesting or attracting? And the law of attraction is important, but it means nothing if you don't get up off your and take action. Right. So what are some of the ways you've shocked people into having these satori prime moments? And can you give us a few examples that, that are really specific and considerate to those people? Because I think that's if I'm getting it right, if I'm understanding what you're saying is what you're all about is what's the right thing for you right now?

Yeah, I mean, well, do you want to give me a specific example and I can maybe walk you through? So I actually want to challenge one preconception here. And it's been like I sit. Part of what I do is my mind seems to be extremely, like, I'm a very efficiency driven person. My mind seems to be gifted at observing, sampling things that are happening in society and noticing broken models. Right. That so many people are acting on that they're getting a consistent result. And the consistent results have nothing to do with what they actually want. So I'm looking at, well, if that model is broke, what's the point of view in a new model that we get to create, whether it's in communication, whether it's in how we start processing emotions, stuff like that, that can drastically alter our experience, not only of ourselves, but how we interact with one another. So I know that's a big mouthful, but one of the things I do want to challenge is that in personal development there has been this really big emphasis, including Tony and everybody else, and I'm guilty of it as anybody emphasizing state change, right? Like a huge emphasis and curiosity around just constantly changing state. Now, ultimately though, what I see as the shadow part of that is that people use transformation. And I hope I say this in a way that's, that's usable. And if not, I'll say it in a different way is that once we state change, we become righteous about our transformation. We judge the way that we were before as if that was worse than the way that we are now. And I would say that that's not transformation, that's convergence. A butterfly doesn't become a butterfly then look at caterpillars and go, ha ha, right? It's like seamlessly going through this process. And what it's doing is it's accepting both of its metamorphoses. Right? And I think that's kind of where we're at right now, where I see a lot of people are challenged. They are having the experiences, they are having those mental state changes. And you know this as well as I do. People go to events, they feel like they can take on the world. I can take on the world two days later, I'm not going to take on the world. Right. I'm not going to do that. And by the way, I can scientifically explain why that phenomenon happens to people and why they don't actually have sustainable transformation. And what a lot of people are leaving out. So here's what I want to challenge, but I think there's like anything else. If you read Robert Greene's mastery Fantastic book, and if you're an entrepreneur and you read that the first hour of that book, and that book does not light your hair on fire, you are not supposed to be an entrepreneur, basically. So he has this thing that it's about, you know, he's trying to explain the process of biological mastery. And it starts with being a practic student and a practitioner, then a master. And the whole idea of actually 10,000 hours comes from actually seven years of being mentored by somebody. And if you break down about seven years, it breaks down to about 10,000 hours. So I think when we look at spiritual development, what we're saying is I'm taking on a certain level of awareness, mastery, right? And that means there's certain, a certain way that you're going to be as a student, a certain way you're going to be as a practitioner, and then a certain way you're going to be as a master. So here's what I want to kind of offer that at the first level, most people are so afraid of taking action at all that they're going to be judged, how people are going to think about them, how they're going to feel about themselves. And the relationship to failure, relationship to fear, you got to deal with all that stuff, right? So then there's like, alright, well, let me deal with those mental constructs so that I can start taking action and see that it's safe enough to take it. Now let me see what happens. All right? Bup, bup, bup. You work your way up the chain, eventually you get to a point where you're like, super empowered. You're just really good at taking action. You visualize, you take action. You visualize, you take action. These are the entrepreneurs that are probably creating 7, 8 figures in their business, but they're not at the top echelon. And then for me, where my discovery has been this last year is, okay, one of the models that I see that I think philosophically we need to look at and say, hey, is this what we're about? Is that as a planet, I think that we have a very positive conversation around resiliency. So if you're resilient, that's good. We do this with veterans all the time. Oh, you survive war, let's clap. Okay. Athletes, right? Oh, if they're hurt, but they keep going, let's clap. There's this whole, like, society of Resiliency. We all have been to this. It's like New York City is nothing else except for one giant resilient. And if you've never been on a New York City subway, and if you have been, then you know this to be true. Everybody's having a who's more miserable? Contest. I on there. Who can look more miserable being. Being like, this city is harder on me than it is on you. That's kind of the ethos on the subway. It's kind of ethos of the entire city. Now, isn't that interesting that we're valuing resiliency and then we're completely displacing pleasure. And we don't look at pleasure as a thing to constantly be like, well, how do I get to receive more pleasure? And I would say that this is a symptom of what the egoic mind is doing in terms of how we're actually training the egoic mind. So. And I know I'm not answering your questions, but I hope that this is answering your question anyway. Because one of the things we're telling the mind is focus on survival, focus on resiliency. But one of the things that we really suck at as a society is feeling. So, like, as a child, you say, boys, don't cry. We don't talk about this in this family, right? And all those different little cliches that we've heard growing up are the reasons we don't allow ourselves to feel certain things. So if you think about what's going on in your subconscious, and really, the only thing that matters is your subconscious. Because, like, fine, your conscious mind is here, but, like, 95% of this operating system is happening outside of your realm, of even your ability to even think it. Which means it's not happening in the language of words. It's happening in the. Not even the language of emotion. It's happening in the language of sensation inside of you. So when you're saying, I don't want to have that emotion, and you push it back down, what you're telling your subconscious part of yourself is, I'm not worthy of feeling this thing. But what the subconscious hears is, I'm not worthy. And then you say, I want a million dollars. And your subconscious goes, but you're not worthy. You've been telling me that for 30 years. You go, well, I want the relationship of my dreams. And your subconscious goes, that's cool. But guess what? You've been telling me you're not worthy for 30. So there's a frequency to worthiness and A vibration sensation to worthiness. So I think at the mastery level, going back to that idea, if the true creation is your ability to sit where you are, Brad, in that room, in a couch, wherever it is, visualize, vibrate. Like teach your body how to vibrate as if it's already happened. Like feel the feelings as if it's already happened. And trust in God and faith and whatever you want to call it, the eternal consciousness, whatever, I don't care how you call it the universe, whatever makes you feel comfortable that you can connect to a spirit larger than yourself and say, hey, here's what I'm creating. So my mind's creating it. I'm going to show you how to pinpoint it back to me in the best possible way that it could come by vibrating with my body, which gives it a target. And I'm going to trust that you're going to give it back to me. I'm going to release all attachment to how it's gonna happen and then watch what happens in your freaking life. You don't have to pick up a finger to do that. Because we are human beings, we are not human doings and most of us are still doing being right. So there's like, at least this is what I'm seeing. And there's been an incredible, I mean like palpable, holy shit type of magic happening in my life that's beyond explanation. And it's because I've invested a lot of my personal time in retraining my body on how it's how I want it to vibrate versus what the programming has told it to vibrate to. And for me, I hope I don't know because I haven't been doing it for forever, is that that's where the mastery is, is that there actually is no doing. And they kind of talk about that in the Secret. But I don't think most people are there so that you have to commit to. I'm going to shift my being and then do a lot of action so that I can see that by me state changing and doing things, it does have new results come in my life. It takes something to get to a level of faith where you're just like, alright, go. You know, like, just give it to me. However, if you're not worthy and I'm like, I'm creating something. I'm like, alright, I want my million dollars, but if I don't feel worthy, guess how it is. I can't receive. And that's, I think that's like the next echelon is teaching people how to receive. Because if I can't, like Brad, you know, you could tell me how awesome you are and all the great, great ways you are. And you do amazing stuff in your life, I'm sure. And you probably want to be acknowledged for it as much as I do. Right. There's a piece of us that just wants that acknowledgement. Then somebody comes up to you, like, Brad, brother, you are amazing. I love you, and you're profoundly impacting my life. And we're like, ok, you shrink around it. You can't take it. You're like, ugh. And I think there's a conversation back there. It says, hey, if you really knew me, you would never say that about me. And then we actually don't share ourselves. So people don't actually really know us because we're afraid if they did, then they wouldn't say stuff like that to us. But notice how you can't receive it, even though you spend most of your life invested in trying to receive it. So it's like, what's the gap there? And I'm interested in those gaps.

Yeah, I've seen this showed up. That's beautiful, by the way. And I'm just taking it all in, receiving it, if you will. I've noticed to show up in my own life, especially in the last six months I moved to Cardiff. You know, we're neighbors, give or take, but I lived in front of an energy vortex. And the things that started happening in my life versus, you know, even a year ago, and the rate at which change is happening and the rate at which things are vibrating and aligning themselves based on the visions that I have are nothing short of ridiculous. And I have to remind myself constantly just to be like, let it happen. Just stop resisting it. It wants to show up and manifest as fast as you allow it to. And just working on that stuff, because that worthiness conversation comes up all the time. All the time, right. And nobody's mean to it until you're, you know, and maybe one day you'll master it and you can report back to us and see what it looks like from the other side of it. But I really loved what you said about that idea of transforming and then judging what you are. And that was really beautiful. And I got a lot out of that as well. And this is the thing, guys. You know, for anybody listening at home, this seems like a conversation between Guy and I, but it's also relevant to everybody's life, is until you decide and you draw a line in the sand and it's not about, it's not an effort or doing. But until you decide that I am worthy, I am a child of God or creation or co creator, I'm conscious I am a being that is worthy of all the things that life has to offer and more. Until that happens, none of it starts showing up. And when it starts to show up a little bit, you subconsciously, you know, the thermostat kicks on and start to go back to that level.

It's too good for me. Yeah.

Just to paraphrase that, like, I didn't always live in a beautiful five bedroom house overlooking the ocean in part of California. In fact, I grew up in a very different way.

Yeah.

And I, and I experience both, you know, abject poverty and scarcity and extreme wealth and being miserable in extreme wealth and then losing a lot almost on purpose to sabotage that and then now rebuilding it back to, you know, a decent level of wealth that is constantly expanding. And I feel in flow and I feel like things are moving at the rate at which they move, but it still comes up, it still comes up. And I have to check myself every day and remind myself that, hey, you know, there are the things I've done and there are things that I am, the things that we are as humans. And it's just great to see other lightworkers in the world doing their bit of that and seeing those little bits. Because when we all come together and start collaborating, that's really the more marbles message. You know, I came to Cardiff and I saw these superheroes running around and they're all superheroes, and one's Iron man and one's, you know, the Hulk and one's this and one's that and they're all doing their superhero thing. But what I don't see here, and what I'd really love to be for this community if I could be, is the Nick Fury that comes and says, hey, you were all Avengers this whole time and now you just got to get together and do shit together and save the world.

Yes.

So that's my vision of not competing, of not saying, oh, that's great, but what does that have to do with me? And just understand that we all are on this mission together our different ways. We're all working. You know, I'll give some great examples. Lexi and Preston, you know, they're, they're killing it in their thing, you know, and Peter Scott, the fierce leader fighting against fear, and his mentor, Sean Stevenson, fighting against insecurity. You know, what if we all got together and started Kind of laying it down on each other more and getting and pushing in that direction. What could we do as the exponential combination of all of our collaboration and how many marbles could we frickin make instead of being the Hungry Hungry Hippos and grabbing for all the marbles?

I couldn't agree more, man. Yeah, like the. The X Men School for the Gifted has definitely been a conversation that I've had with, with many people. Look, I don't think we're far out, you know, I think given our age demographic, you know, what's happening here in San Diego is a really special thing. There's like a beacon that seems to just be popping out and like if you're. It's crazy because if you get it, you just get it. You don't know why you're coming here. You just kind of show up here and then you suddenly realize once you get here, like, oh, I got it. You know, and it's not even about my people, it's about the people doing the work. Like I think give us 10 years, 15 years from now, a lot of the organizations, companies, etc that will be around the world. People can ask where this gets started and the answer is going to be Encinitas, California. So I think there's a level of maturity, maybe a level of money mastery. And I actually don't mean like accumulation of money, I just mean money mastery as an energy and really understanding what that is. And I think cryptocurrency has a big part to play and just freeing us from the mentality of how it's been. It's a different kind of measurement, you know, democratized money. Wow. I mean like none of us can anticipate what that's going to do to our society.

People can I have ideas, I would.

Love, love, love to hear them. I don't know, like, I don't know enough about it. I'm, you know, a speculative investor like the rest of us at this point in time. But, but I'm more interested with the blockchain technology is going to allow for. And anyway, so the bottom line is, I agree with you, I'm part of some pretty awesome organizations, you know, like networking groups that we do some cool shit around the planet. And I've often thought to myself, like, what if we just pooled resources? What if, what if we stopped doing all these different things and we really got to do the work that was actually important on this planet, which is safety and security for everybody. A redevelopment of education, taking care of Mother Earth would be phenomenal as A priority and really just coming together as a community without borders, without. You know, I actually think this between cryptocurrency and I think the moment when the technology comes out that we can, in real time translate languages with an earpiece. Yeah. Probably be one of the most game changing.

Waverly Labs has something going on with that.

Yeah, there's a few really close right now. Yeah. Because, like, you know, the. The only thing that creates misunderstanding between cultures is that we misunderstand each other's languages, by the way, also scientifically proven that that's the case. One of my favorite case studies of all time. And I know you didn't ask me a question, but hey, we're gonna jammy jam, right? One of my favorite things of all time is like, looking at, well, how is it that humans decipher reality, right? Because there's a way that we're testing what we're saying is reality. Now, just to back up a step here, folks, for those of you who are still engaged in listening, your average human being has five best friends throughout an entire lifetime, okay? Five best friends, plus your family. Now, I want to point out, like, there's a circle up there, and if we took that entire circle and we're like, hey, everything there is to know in the entire universe one could know is in that circ. Like, how much does humanity know? If we put a speck on there that would be doing an injustice, we know way less than that right now. We don't walk around that way. We don't. We walk around, like, know everything and all conviction, which, by the way, kills all the possibility in your life when you do. And so we have five best friends, your family members. And you think you have a good view of what the world is like. There's seven and a half billion people. Billion. Impossible to even conceptualize in the mind how big that is. Right. So it's like, you know, starting to give that up. But I think what creates, especially in America, where it's not a country of a lot of people traveling out of these borders, unfortunately, and have a lot of misconceptions about what the rest of the world looks like and what's available and what freedom looks like in other countries. Everyone, you know, and not to put America down, I absolutely love it here. But it's like, you know, we, you know, like, we're like this amazing democracy. There's 92 other democracies on the planet who are doing really, really well too. Right? So it's just. It's starting to have like a Little bit of a wider gaze. But what I. I speak multiple languages, okay. Like, I'm conversational in Russian, I'm fluent in Hebrew, I know English quite well, I hope. And. And I know when I go to.

You know the swear words.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly enough to motivate a few people, you know. So what I always noticed when I go to different countries and what I know from my own cultures, because I did grow up in Israel, my two parents are from Russia, one's from Ukraine, one's from Latvia. The very thick Russian accents. And you know, one thing I've always learned is you don't understand a culture till you speak its language. You just don't because you don't understand the nuance. So it's like you make. You start making all these assumptions like we make about everybody that you see in the streets. And it drives decision making and choices that we make in really, like, fucked up directions. So I hope that in these physical bodies that we're in right now, Brad, that we do get to see a time that there's gonna be like a wild escalation in humanity seeing itself as a community, which is why it's good practice to be in San Diego and seeing what even that brings up, that it's not always fluid.

Yeah, you hit on a couple points. And one of the things I love to do in these interviews, guys, is kind of pull on the threads, right? And when you pull on enough threads, you unravel the sweater, you have the naked truth standing before you. So one of the things you picked on is how people think and how people are wired to think, right? That Dunbar's number, that 150 people. People are wired to think for the revolution linearly and locally. Right. Because that's what we've always known. And the new thing is everything is global and exponential and increasing in the rate of change is increasing as fast as we possibly can. This supercomputer that lives in my pocket didn't exist 10 years ago.

Sure.

And. And that just blows my mind every time I think about that. So, you know, the. And then when you add on top of that that the average person living today is far wealthier, in fact, than the average billionaire living 150 years ago or whatever. Right. The equivalency of that, like even the billionaire of 200 years ago couldn't buy the things that people pretty much have all over the place. Sure, yeah, that piece. So what's coming next, I believe with this singularity, with this expansion, with this global and exponential, you know, increase in rate of change is what I call lighting the fuse. One day we're going to get to the place where food, energy, water and shelter fews are going to be the basics and the standard for all human beings on this planet. And that's the floor through which nobody can fall. And our scarcity story, in fact will be complete and everybody will know it. And we already have the technology to provide at that level. Yes, but we still have the belief system of a world where we have to grab and we have to fight. We have to be the hungry hungry hippos and take all the marbles for ourselves instead of making more. And when people are in lack, we tell them, well, it's your fault, you're in lack and da da, da. And we make them blame and shame and guilt themselves forever. But instead of just really shifting to the idea of, well, okay, well, that's the problem. Yes, we get it, there is a problem, we understand. But when people say, hey, there's a problem and they say somebody should do something about that, I say, hey, aren't you somebody? Hello, somebody?

Right.

And you don't have to solve the whole problem, but you could, you could certainly lend energy towards it and start to enroll people in the idea of maybe helping. And when you start to do that, the whole world starts to shift and it shifts away in ways that you can't even, like you said, perceive beforehand. You can't even understand how the impact that you're gonna have in the world. And you just started as a kid who had this moment at 19 years old where you're walking down the steps and you know, one step to the next, you had a different viewpoint. Now what if we could create that for everybody in the world?

Yes.

And what does that look like? And how do we do it at scale? So I start thinking about things like VR, AI, machine learning algorithms to specifically create experiences for people where they can not only just undo the trauma and the that's been walking around with them their entire lives because guess what, everybody has it. But then additionally help align them with reality in a better way.

Increase empathy.

Yeah, empathy and emotionality and all these different pieces that just aren't trained in us. And we couldn't do it at scale because, you know, there's only so many lightworkers that have actually worked on their own stuff enough to be able to help other people. There's only so many leaders out there. And then additionally, it's just, you know, we only have 24 hours in a day right now, but exponentials so they carry with them scale.

So they say, Brad, I'm not. I don't buy a lot of the stuff that they've been telling us, but you know. Yeah, I agree with that. And did you have a complete thought there? Yes, sir.

No, I just wanted to just, you know, agree and add my little bit of twist because we're smart people thinking about the same types of problems, more.

People thinking about this. So I get really turned on by Stephen Cutler's work.

Absolutely.

Also sorry. Peter Diamante. Diamante, right, yeah, Diamante. Thank you. Bold. If you like. It's so amazing. You can read so many books that make you just want to bury your head in the sand for what's happening. And then you go read Peter's book, Bold. And you're gonna be so excited about our future because when you start understanding all these. Oh, there we go.

Beautiful Fire and Tomorrowland.

Amazing, right? So even that, like Stealing Fire, you know, the idea of hacking ecstasists. So freaking amazing. Because if you start, and I think Robert Greene's book points to this also, you start looking at the Bible and people like Moses, whatever, right? They're having these ecstasist experiences, experiences that are connected them with source, essentially, right? And then they're coming back, transferring the information. I think what's really beautiful about what's available to us now is that we could potentially synthesize those experiences through food, through drug. And I think that's kind of what Stealing Fire is pointing to, is like, hey, we're going to eventually have enough quantifiable data that we're actually going to figure out what's going on, like a process that produces ecstasist. Now, I don't know, for those you guys who have done really deep plant medicine work or not, the experiences Moses talks about in the Bible and those kind of experiences are more or less what's available to you. Should you, you know, go down to see your neighborhood shaman? I would, by the way, do not recommend going to the CVS Shaman. I really recommend, like go heading to South America and working with some people. And even that's like its own little society. And there's over there, nothing is perfect. And that's what's available. And we're starting to study this stuff. And that's amazing. Like 30, 40, 50 years from now, imagine what we're going to know about creating ecstatic states. And humans, if you want to know, like why we feel connected, how we start sharing information telepathically, how you start receiving information about Past lives, future things that are coming, insights that people have had, you know, like books that have been written, movies that have. That have been produced over people who have connected to ecstasies. So like, you look at our history and you have the genius people that they've written about in history. I'm sure there has been way, way many more. But the ones that, you know, history has chosen to write about for whatever reason, oftentimes because they won. You know, like the, the Mozarts and whatever the Einstein's and what have you. And you realize when you read about those people that they had something. But it like what one. A huge misconception, I feel like in society is that talent is given, not earned. And Carol Dwick has a book called Mindset. She does a really good job of kind of explaining this. She's got. He's got them all. He's got them all. Yeah, right, exactly. Brilliant, brilliant book about how to educate yourself properly and the things that stop you mental. The mental focus that stops you from seeing your true potential. So it's like all this stuff is learned. But look, in those situations you had somebody who had an early desire for something and then the right resources around them to help them grow into that space. Here's the thing, guys, for anybody who's online and has one of these devices, that's about half the planet right now, guess what? You have those resources too. So whatever it is that you feel inclined to become masterful at, pull that thing that's 5.9 inches or smaller out of your pocket. And I'm not making.

Not that one, put that one away.

People are getting in trouble for those things. But my point is, is like for me, this made me a genius because I knew what I was inclined and I found what I was passionate about. Most people are still looking for that. And I think there's a lot of value in people helping people to find what they're passionate about. Except the moment you do, the excuses for not having the resources to go be awesome at that thing are in the past because I was not a person that would go to the library and do research. But when I have a question, something comes out of my pocket and I start researching like a maniac because I'm so interested in it. And honestly, most of the information you pay for today is free online, including university educations, which are meh. Right. And all that stuff. The only reason you want to work with a mentor, truly, I don't know what your model is, Brad, or somebody like me. You pay for proximity, right? Like, I more or less offer the same program work at $197 that I do at 25 grand. I just know that if you spend your proximity closer to me, you're probably going to work deeper, faster, you know, and you're going to get to where you want to get to with a shorter learning curve. So there's a difference between watching something digitally and being with somebody's energy. It's just what's so. So I'm clear that I get to ask money for my time. That's super valuable to me, by the way, for people to be in my proximity at a level where there are things that took me 15 years of investment, you know, to learn. I mean, just to put something in retrospect to how I look at investment today. I put a quarter of a million dollars into my personal growth this year, okay. And I've done 15 years, so. And it's not because I still think broken. There's just. This is an infinite well of knowledge, right? There's always something to do. So, like, I'm only increasing my investment year over year because it's the one thing that pays back dividends every single time. So, like, when you come work with someone like Brad, if that's what you have, I'm not sure. Or somebody like me, you're not paying for my program. You're paying for 15 years and millions of dollars of investment in so many fields. And all these things that are giving me honestly a perspective that maybe a percent of the world has. And I'm not saying that from an ego place. We're just living in fear. And I've done the work like a fear hunter to figure out how do you lean into that and then go a little bit further, you know, step by step. So, you know, that's where I'm standing in right now is like, I want to see a absolute, like, explosion of genius all over our planet where we're talking about someone like Einstein, where we laugh that there was only one instead of like three in your town, you know, something like that. And I do think that's what the potential of our planet right now.

That's beautiful, guy, and thank you for that reflection as well. And, you know, one of the things that I've always striven to do over the years, and I've invested quite a bit in personal development myself, about 3/4 of a million dollars and counting, you know, is to spend the time in the rooms with the people and see what, if anything, was the same and what, if anything, was different. Than what they were projecting out into the world. And sometimes they say, you know, don't be your heroes. It's been true. You know, I've met some people that I had one perception of that was entirely wrong, or maybe I caught him on a bad day and who knows? But then again, there have been people that not only have lived that mission, but when you get into their orbit, it's just magic. Like, it's incredible to be around people that manifest at such a high rate. And one of those examples was Richard Branson, who just when he walks into a room, millions of dollars move around. And it's not a function of him doing anything. It's a function of him being who he is. So it's that level of life happens to us, then life happens for us, and life or as us or bias. And then life happens for us, and then ultimately life happens just because of who we are being in the world. And that's a beautiful state that I want to get into. And not judging the ones I've been in before, it was just the levels, Jerry. The levels.

Right, Levels.

It's all about the levels.

Jerry, I love you so much right now. You have no idea. Yeah, we could do an entire interview and where we just talk about just. There's Seinfeld lines. I could do that all day with you.

Absolutely. Yeah. So, guy, I mean, I'm grateful that you've been on the podcast. I do want to start to transition to a close. We maybe do another one or I can be on your show. I don't know what other podcasting types of stuff you have. You know, it's funny thing about this neighborhood and this inner. You know, we. We're always around each other and seeing each other, but we're never actually dropping in. And this is a beautiful opportunity to do that. I want to continue the conversation, but for now, since this is the Make More Marvels podcast and we're so grateful for you sharing your time and your expertise in the 15 year journey and everything that you've done, everything that you are. More importantly, what are some of the ways which we can support you? And the way we do that is we call it seeds and crops and crops stands for Connect Resources, Opportunities, People and systems together to help you move your mission forward faster. What are some of the ways that we can do that?

Yeah. So look, our little mission is to impact 100 million people's lives. Shall I get there? I promise you I'll throw another zero on the end of that. We'll make it a Billion. Right now, what I can offer your listeners as a resource is we actually have an app on iOS and Android. Just head over to Satori Prime S A T O R I Prime P R I M E app. There'll be shortcuts there for both the iOS and Android app. What's available to you in there is basically a 10 part mini, kind of like personal development mini masterclass, so you can just go in there. It also gives you access immediately to our online community. So, you know, if what I have found is a lot of people do want to engage in these conversations, we kind of didn't get into why transformation is not sustainable for a lot of people. A lot of that has to do with the environment you keep and the way that you've trained people to deal with you. And then you're at odds with the way that you've trained people to deal with you. So when you start having breakthrough type thinking and then you step into old environments, there's this contradiction in how you're perceiving the world and then how people are perceiving you. There is something you can do about that, by the way. So because a lot of people don't have a community, we have one online where you get to share and engage with these really big ideas in a safe space. So that's available there. That's probably the best thing to do. We have a podcast too. I think it'd be amazing to continue this conversation on there. Ours is called the have it all podcast and you guys can find that in itunes. Really easy. And if you want to reach out to me, I'm available. Yeah.

How do people get in touch with you, guy? What's the best way to do that?

Just email me. Seriously. I really still to this day invest a lot of my time and personally connecting with people. I think it's crazy not to. And if anything, I think business is moving right back into that. Like, like Internet like took us away. Like you do everything behind the scenes now. It's like kind of got to get personal. I love being personal. I love knowing about people's lives, what's going on. I'm a whore for acknowledgement. You know what, I just want to say this really quick because this is like where people get stuck. I think about, like, what are the actions I need to do that? Like creating money would be a byproduct of those actions so I don't have to focus on the money. One thing I realize is, you know, what really matters to me, like if I get a sale and I'm like, oh, good, a sale. And I tell my brother's my business partner. I'm like, hey, bro, did you see that sale come in? We're like, yeah, yeah, high fives, right? But if I get an acknowledgement, could not even a customer just like an email, a comment, something that's like, you guys are changing my life. I'm like, bro, did you see that? Yeah. Oh, my God. Right?

The money's nice, but like you alluded to earlier, it's an approximation. The best one we have of the energy that's being exchanged. But it's not a 100% map. Like the maps, not the territory. It's just what we use right now. That's the okay system that we currently have. And maybe crypto will be better or maybe this will be better, but right now, it just doesn't map 100% to the energy of gratitude, which is what all the.

It is. Totally. Right. And it's a measure. Measurement of value. Right? A measurement of gratitude value, essentially. So isn't it beautiful if you just get to focus on that? So for me, you know, my mission is every day, 10. 10 of those a day. If I get 10 acknowledgement pieces a day, trust me, money is the least of my concerns. Handled. Right? So that. That's where my focus is at, and that's what I love. So, Anyway, Guy, at satoriprime.com you don't have to send me an acknowledgement. You could just say hello and tell me a little bit about yourself. And if you feel like I'm the right person for you and we can help you out, then let us know and we'll have that conversation.

Guy, thank you so, so much for being on the show. And on behalf of all the marble makers out there and everybody in the Make More Arts community, hopefully we one day make enough marbles we don't have to make anymore. But we're really, really grateful to have you, to have you on the show. And thank you so much for being here.

Likewise, brother. Thank you so much.

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