How 23-Year-Old Entrepreneur Kevin Crenshaw Overcame Homelessness Through Service to Others

Welcome to Make More Marbles. My name is Brad Hart and we're here to interview the game changers, the future makers, the co collaborators and creators who are here to collaborate with one another towards a better future for all of us. Enjoy the show. We've got a great guest coming up for you right now. Welcome to Make More Marbles. What's going on? My name is Brad Hart, and today I am thrilled, excited, and a little bit, I guess, tingly. Tingly would be the word I would describe. It's a beautiful day in sunny San Diego, and I'm here with Kevin Crenshaw in Dallas, Texas. What's going on, Kevin?

It's going great, man. Love life. Enjoying every second of it.

Love it, brother. Yeah, I'm watching your shirt there. The spiritual gangster shirt. I think JP Sears might have popularized these, but I'm seeing them everywhere and I can't really be sure where it came from, but it's a pretty awesome shirt and I appreciate you rocking it for the show.

Thank you, man. Yeah, totally.

Absolutely. So you're in Dallas. Are you from there originally?

No, Memphis, Tennessee, born and raised. Moved here about two and a half years ago.

Okay, cool. And you got into the fitness space. Can we talk a little bit about how you've kind of evolved over the years and where you landed today and kind of give people, like, a sense of where you came from and what you're all about?

Totally. Yeah. So about eight years ago is when it all started for me. I was 100 pounds, skin and bones, severely heavily medicated for ADD, ADHD, had sleep apnea, allergies, asthma. I was taking breathing treatments, inhalers. I was suicidal and depressed, and I just kind of lived my life like that. Didn't really have many friends or they couldn't really express myself. And I found my expression through art. But then I even started to hate that because I was getting, like, picked on for being girly or whatever. Right. And so I grew up around all that. My escape was video games, and I have a social life. And I was that kid that sat by myself at lunch. And I just kind of put up with it for so long until one day, like, it wasn't a day that was out of the ordinary. Nothing happened differently. But one day I just snapped. And I was like, I can't keep living. Like, this is the straw that broke the camel's back. All that pressure just built up and I was like, nope, this is it. I'm going. And so, because I had tried to work out before and to get Muscles and to get girls or whatever. But at that point, it was really for. I needed to change my life. And so that's when I found fitness. And I just started moving. I didn't even know what I was doing. But I dove in headfirst into fitness to really just save my life. Again, I didn't know what I was doing, and I did a lot of research on things as I went. I started seeing results. Then my ego exploded because my confidence went through the roof because I was. My reputation at school was, like, shredded. The people that were picking on me were coming to me for fitness advice. And that was like, seriously, in a year's time, right? Like, well, dang. And that kind of give me. That gave me the first sense of, like, purpose in life, really, when people were asking me, dude, you know, I'm struggling with this, can you help me? And I'm like, oh, yeah, totally. And I helped them. And. But it really solidified when one of my close friends, I was helping him out, and he kind of thanked me for changing his life. And that was when I was like, this is what I'm supposed to do. But my route was art. Like, I was. I still am a really good artist. Acrylic paintings, drawing, stuff like that. So everybody kind of knew me that I was gonna go to school for art, and all I did was play video games. So I was gonna go. Had a full ride at the art Institute out in Nashville for a single painting that I did, and I was gonna go make video games, learn that whole thing. And literally right before college started, I changed my mind and went, nope, I'm going to fitness. And, you know, my parents almost disowned me, and they're like, what the heck.

You mean you have a full ride scholarship for your art and you don't.

Want to do it? Yeah. And because I wanted to do what filled my heart, and I would find a way to fill my wallet, not the other way around. And so I get it.

I was being like, you know, that would be what your parents would say. Yeah. So, okay, great. So your first passion was art. You found that you could transform people through fitness, and that really lit you up. So that's obviously what you went after. So what does your life look like today? And talk about some of the people you help.

Yeah. So, I mean, now it's. I'm at online fitness programs. I'm helping a lot of men have more energy and confidence. So it's not, yeah, gaining muscle mass, losing body fat, percentage, whatever, but it's leaking that into other areas of their life. So that I help a lot of entrepreneurs. So, you know, having more energy to devote to your business or showing up more confident on your sales calls or whatever. Again, because you're taking care of your body and which sets the basis of everything. If you're trying to do a race or a run a business, get from point A to point B. And would you want to pick a Honda or a Lamborghini? And your body is kind of. And how it operates on a cellular level, you get to determine that. So it's helping them do that that's really fulfilling. For what I do, I'm also a group fitness instructor. I have been for the past five years. So that's just something that lights me up to put a mic on and yell at people. I do that every day.

I love it. And I've done a bunch of those classes where it's like spin or Zumba or any number of different things where, you know, you just get pushed more in that environment. I think it takes a special kind of masochist to be able to push themselves to the limit. You know, like as a runner or whatever it is. Like, I look at guys like Casey Neistat. By the way, that's my buddy Blake Jameson that created that one. An original art piece. I bought a few from him over the years and given them to friends. But yeah, he's like a spray paint graffiti type artist, but he's really high end, does great stuff. But yeah, I look at like the Casey Neistat's of the world who can masochistically just beat themselves in submission and run like 10 marathons a week. And I'm up to about a marathon a week. But, you know, I've never done as well in a solo environment as I've done in a group environment. Do you think there's science to back that up or you think it's just different people that get different results in different environments?

I think that there's. I wouldn't say science. I'm helping people build leverage in their motivation. So I don't. I'm not just like, come on, guys, you can do it. I mean, obviously I'm saying that, and it kind of helps to hear somebody else say, you can do it. You're gonna think, oh, okay, I got this, right? Because if you're. If you're going, holy, this is hard, I can't do this. I can't hold on anymore, then you're gonna stop. But if you're like, no, I got this, I Got this. Right? So I kind of help with that. But I refer in my classes a lot of times, and this is why all my classes are packed and we have full classes every single time is because I refer to their goals. And I'm like, why are you here in the first place? Even before class, I set it up. Why'd you show up to class today? You got a million excuses. You could be somewhere else. Remember what you're here for. I want you to use that when the going gets tough. And then I do, like in the middle of the heat of everything, I'm like, why are you here? You need to work for that. And so it's reminding them of that instead of the pain of, oh, my God, my biceps are about to fall, fall off, whatever it is. Right? So I think there's something to be said with that. And it's just a psychological game, so somebody can do that by themselves. And I teach my clients online how to do that, or I can be on a mic telling it to you, but it's in the day. The same muscle of that, self discipline versus motivation. Right? Like you can motivate yourself for a second or you can build your self discipline muscle, and that's your internal dialogue. So it's. It's internal. I'm essentially trying to gear their internal dialogue to positive instead of negative in the heat of the moment when it's really freaking tough.

So, okay, so yeah, they're in this group environment and you kind of talk to them about their goals, and then you use their goals and motivation. How does it show up in other areas of their life? Once they kind of get this self discipline rolling, you help them to shape that with fitness. I know. This has been my story. How does that kind of start to reverberate throughout their whole existence?

Totally. So, you know when you push yourself in the gym and I talk to my clients like, you go to the gym with the intention of building your emotional muscles. Your physical muscles are a byproduct of that. So if you go to the gym and you're like, my goal is to make myself proud. And you push yourself and you make yourself proud. You go beyond what you think you can do, then you set a new standard for yourself, and you almost get addicted to that push and you go, how else can I do that? Right? So for example, one of my friends, Diego, he's a client of mine. He's Diego Corzo.

Yeah, he was on the show. He's awesome. I love Diego.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to Interrupt.

But that's awesome. It's such a small.

What was you. What was the last name you said? Corzo Coraz? No, Castina.

Oh, my bad. Okay.

Um, anyway, but yeah, he's pretty cool. Awesome, too. He's an online. He helps people in relationships, especially women. He was kind of lacking, like, discipline in his business, and we built that in the gym and now he is crushing it in his business. Just got back from a few different live events and really making an impact and scaling it there. But he accredits it to building that emotional muscle in the gym. And it's because you're going to add it with the intentions of leaking it to other areas of your life instead of just, I'm going to change my fitness because especially guys. And I coach a lot of guys. Right. We segment things. But if you can go at it, I'm going to change my fitness so I can change my family, or I'm going to change my fitness so I can change my business. Then it starts to leak and flow naturally like it's supposed to.

Yeah, I like that. And I've noticed this show up in my own life, and you got to be able to kind of turn the old, you know, spotlight back on yourself once in a while. It's like, I have a high need for variety. I'm very extroverted. I love people. I want to be in different places, different people. And that's the exact antithesis of building anything worthwhile. Right. So I'll go on these periods where I'll work really, really, really hard and stay grounded and stay focused, and then I'll eventually burn out without realizing it and want to just go and screw off around the world and do fun travel, which is great in certain doses, but you got to be able to balance that. Right? So learning for me to catch myself and I'm like, oh, I want to have variety, which is really just, I'm not taking care of myself, which is really just, I need to be better at taking breaks and actually having the discipline to do that and not getting down on myself or self sabotaging when things aren't working out the way that I want them to or not. Everything is rosy.

Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of the same way. My discipline now is not about, like, going to the gym and eating clean, because that's a second nature to me. My discipline.

You've already formed that habit, right?

My discipline now is turn off. Like, when do I turn off? When do I take time for myself?

And this is the gold here. Because a lot of people, like, we can gear this as a person who wants to get in shape or do anything, but these are all the same types of habits. So, like, what has worked for you? Because this is a problem I'm trying to solve in my own life. And I'm sure there's other people out there that are high performers and they've got that piece down. They can go, go, go, but they're like burning out because they're in second gear and they're trying to drive from London to Russia. You'll get there, but you might bur engine out in the meantime.

Right. So to answer that question, I'm going to share a story. So there was a period in my life. Well, actually this was last year. I was homeless for six months right at the beginning of my business. And I was couch surfing and a bunch of stuff. And I would have four different jobs. I was a personal trainer group fitness instructor. I just had started my online business. So it wasn't really making money, it was more taking money. And I was a server and a bartender and I was sleeping four hours a night, seven days a week, literally working throughout the clock. And I burnt out. Like I literally could not do anymore. I remember one day all of my bosses got onto me for something that day and that was kind of like my wake up call. Like, dude, you're not, you're not functioning. And that's when I was like, I completely forgot to take care of me, you know, and your body isn't a machine. And you know, sometimes we. There are seasons where you do need to push, but, but you can't push for forever. And so to scale back on that and to answer your question on how do you find that groove, this is what I've been doing recently is scheduling it in. When you schedule in time to work out, you also need to schedule in time for your relationships or for yourself to literally chill out and do nothing and turn your phone off and go for a walk. Like, breathe. It's. It seems counterintuitive. And that's why a lot of high achievers don't do it, is because you're like, well, I need to be in my big computer right now. I need to be working at my business. No, you need to clear your mind so you can come back to your business with a focus. Or maybe you go on a walk and you get an amazing business idea that shifts and is the next level forward. Right. And so I've been implementing that myself to where if I start to feel anxious or I start to feel like there's internal block. I'll just shut down everything and walk out of my house and take a breather for a second. Even if it's literally two minutes, I'll just do some deep breathing and come back to it, because you got to get your hands off of it for a second and come at it at a different perspective. So, again, I'm an artist. I've been tapping into that side of myself a lot more because I lost it for about four years where I didn't even touch it. But I did this fun challenge yesterday where I photo blogged my day. So instead of a blog or a blog, whatever, I literally just took pictures of stuff throughout the day at really cool angles. And I was like, that's almost a metaphor for your life. Like, if you don't. Like, if you don't love your life, you either need to change your life or change your perspective. Like, you probably have an amazing life. And if you're watching, listening, watching to this podcast, I guarantee you you're very blessed because you have a computer or a phone, and some people don't even have food. So you need to take that in consideration and be grateful too. And I think that's one of the big things that has gotten me through a lot in life, is just gratitude for what you have and stop looking at what you don't. Because especially high achievers, they. We tend to look at, like, what we need. Well, the next thing will stop and celebrate the fact that you just freaking did what you just did, you know?

Yeah. And it sneaks up in crazy ways. Like, I've been recording these podcasts, for example. I have, like, 50 episodes in the can now, and it's great. I love that I have that buffer. And that was by design. And, like, I didn't want to have to always be stressing about, oh, we can't get this many guests or that many guests or whatever. So I did it that way. But when I went to launch it on Monday, it was so anticlimactic to me. Not because it wasn't exciting, but, like, I've been doing it so long. I've been in it so long that, like, all my friends are like, way to bury the lead, Brad. You launched your podcast day. You didn't even tell anybody you're gonna launch it. Like, we would have totally promoted and all this stuff. And I'm like, you know what? You're right. I didn't even, like, take a minute to just be, like, grateful that I actually created something. And Launched it and it was beautiful. And then the other thing, to your point, I really like the idea of scheduling time. But then what happens when other people's needs bleed into your time? Because, you know, you have this thing or somebody needs you when you have this time schedule for yourself and it seems urgent and important. Or maybe that's just the lesson I need to learn next is just setting that boundary. What are you doing?

But then, yeah, it's boundaries a little bit. Especially if you have a caring and loving heart and you want to take care of other people, you want to help other people. You can't pour from any cup if you're burnt out. There is no way you can help out anybody else. So self care isn't selfless.

I agree with that 100%. You know, I had these F off Fridays booked in my calendar for a long time and it just wasn't working after a while where I would just literally take a day on Friday and just not talk to anybody. Because I talk a lot to a lot of people and a lot of people want to talk to me, and that's fine. I love that. And that's what lights me up until, you know, I get to the end of the week and I'm so shocked from doing it. You know, I've done. I'm doing six, seven podcasts on Tuesdays, just. Just that. And then all the other stuff. You know, you need time to just be with yourself and maybe write or read or work on a project that's just not focused on this. So, yeah, I think I'm going to reinstitute and institute F off Fridays. I'm going to go surfing in the morning and just whatever happens in the afternoon.

There you go. I love it. So I guess for your listeners sake, what did you find when you were doing F off Fridays? That it helped in your business because you had that space?

Yeah, I think. Yeah, I'd like to say that it was, you know, this magical thing that I instituted and it never failed ever again, but it really didn't. Like, I started doing it for maybe two, three weeks and I liked it. And then something came up where I had to be somewhere on a Friday and I traveled and I forgot completely about it. You know how that goes. You know, where it's in your calendar as a reminder and just got to get more consistent with my own stuff, you know, that's it. You know, everybody likes to come on and say they got it all figured out. I don't. I don't know anybody who actually does. And I'm okay with that. And I'm vulnerable about where I'm failing and just calling myself out. And these reminders are great, you know, because I can spend this time just being reminded of the stuff that maybe I'm not 100%, you know, in alignment with or in integrity with as far as my word goes to myself. And that's. It's really hard for me to break a promise to somebody else. I will go, I'll move heaven and earth to do things for other people. But keeping a promise of myself should be paramount because otherwise, how can I help anybody, right, if I'm not taking care of myself? So thank you for the reminder and for the people listening at home. Maybe we need to have occasional check ins and integrity checks with ourselves, you know, and all I mean by integrity is not from a moral perspective. I like these landmarks, definition. Is your life working for you or not? Are you in alignment with your word or not?

Yeah, that's good. And like we were saying, the, the whole, if you don't like your life, change your perspective, change your life.

Yeah, you nailed it right on the head, man. I mean, we just built a house in Mexico a month ago for a family. I was living on dirt, you know, and we're doing again in December and worked in Syrian refugee camps. I mean, you think you got a bad life, go to the Syrian refugee camps, go to Mexico. You know, I don't know why I was born on this side of the border versus that side of the border. You know, I don't know why these things happen and what they're here to teach us. But I can make up a meaning, right? And I choose an empowering meaning. But there's the reality of that. Some people are born with very little. And for you to poo poo or not be grateful is just succumbing to the law of familiarity. You can get used to anything, great wealth, great poverty, whatever it is. But ideally, gratitude and appreciation helps you appreciate more. And then what you appreciate also appreciates in your life. And a grateful heart, magnet for miracles.

Definitely I would agree with that.

So talk to us a little bit about where you see your own vision and mission going and expanding to. Right. So you went from veritably homeless, and I don't know if that was, you know, like real homelessness, like you didn't have a place to go or you couldn't earn enough money to live or whatever it was, or whether it was a choice just to not have a place for a while, which I know a lot of people make nowadays, especially with the nomading and vagabonding that go on. But yeah, just kind of give us a sense of like, all right, you've come from where you come from, you've obviously got a few things on the ball. What does the next three to five years look like for you, Kevin?

Yeah, definitely. So I mean, obviously my keep rolling with my fitness stuff. I'm working on a few new programs right now just for ease of access. People that don't have gym memberships, people that do all that. But I integrate the psychology behind it all. It is like a, here's your workout plan, here's your nutrition. But hey, we need to switch your mindset about this. And like we were talking about before, how do you get to the point where you can push yourself beyond your own limits without somebody, without me physically being there telling it to you? So I teach all the psychology behind that. Building discipline versus motivation and all that stuff, building that leverage. So I'm going to definitely keep the ball rolling up with that. But I'm starting now to dive into masculine and feminine energies. And what I was talking about before with my high ticket clients who work a lot more one on one with me, all the guys, I'm doing a lot more of work in that end around relationships. I've been learning for the past five years and almost obsessed about why miscommunications happen between the sexes. Like, you know, there's a saying behind every angry, angry woman is a man who doesn't know what like what the heck he did wrong. Yeah, right. Like, and so why does stuff like that happen? And I've been obsessed with that because I was. My ex fiance broke up with me unexpectedly, had no. I blindsided me and I was like. And that was the instant where I was just like, why did that happen? And I know it happens other people. There was just a miscommunication and of intentions or I wasn't giving her what she needed or whatever. So how can I make sure this never happens again and never happens for other people? And so I. And that kind of got me down a rabbit hole of that whole realm of with like dating and relationships and masculine and feminine energies and it's more of an internal game than an external one is what I found. So I'm diving a lot more into that and somehow going to integrate it with my trainings. Because like we were saying before, like I was, you know, people come to me, they're like, how do I get abs? And then a month later they're not, it's not just about that and they know it. And it's about to fix my relationships or, oh, I need to, you know, pour more time into my business or I'm not happy in the job I'm at, so whatever. But the surface level is usually something fitness related and we dive a lot deeper into the internal journey that it is. And so it's diving in more into that realm so that I can further serve my clients and people that come across my path.

Yeah, and you made a great point. It's like health, wealth, relationships. People don't have business problems or, you know, money problems. They have life problems that manifest in their business or their relationships or their money situation. So, you know, what are some of the warning signs, I guess for people that, you know, before it gets so painful that you found where you like lose a relationship or something really drastic happens, it makes you have to shift. What are some of the warning signs that people can pick up on, especially men? And there's like old jokes, there's a million jokes you could tell about how to interact with women. Manual would be an encyclopedia size or whatever. You can always make jokes. But it's true. We have different communication styles, we have different needs for different reasons. And sure, we have the same core human needs, but at the level of which we express to one another and communicate with each other, it's like we got broadband and there's like, or dial up rather to communicate with each other and there's like all this broadband of stuff that's trying to get across. And I think men especially have the proclivity to maybe be a little more closed, you know, or a little more logical. For example, now they go into their head. And I've known a lot of really wonderful women over my life, luckily that have helped me kind of understands these things. And having grown up with no women around and my mom left and all the whole thing, it took me a long time to really get to a place where I was good with that. And I wish I could shorten the learning curve. So what have you found to be like these warning signs and then ultimately the tools that have allowed you to communicate better with the opposite sex.

Right. So I'll come at it from a man's perspective, you know, looking at women. But the one of the big things is our brains literally don't work the same at all. Men are singular focused, we focus on one thing at a time. And women have what's called diffused awareness. It's where they can take in literally everything they're on the phone with a friend, they're taking care of the baby, and they're cooking at the same time. Right. Like, they, they need to be able to do that. But men have, like, singular focus. So, you know, we're on this podcast right now. Literally, this is our world. I don't know what's, like, going on outside until I think about it. Right. So in that sense, that comes into play with dating and relationships a lot. I'm not gonna go into a lot of all this stuff. Alison Armstrong is a really good resource for all this stuff. What is it? Was it called NSync? It's an audio series. If you got audible that I learned a lot. There's also one about understanding women, so if you wanted to check that one out, it definitely helped my understanding of women. But, yeah, she has a bunch of amazing stuff that covers all the dating side of all that. But. So you're talking about red flags and really, in terms of relationships.

Yeah, yeah. Like, what could you have seen coming? Looking back now, knowing what you knew for yourself, and then what. What are some typical red flags that, that people should be on the lookout for in their relationships, Right?

Totally. So, you know, I. There. There was an issue, and for a lot of guys, when there's an issue and we don't know for 100% if we can solve it, we tend to just kind of not do anything. And we just. We're frozen. And so we're, oh, I'm not going to deal with it. Hopefully it'll solve itself. And obviously that doesn't happen. Things just get worse. So men, especially, if we have an issue, we don't talk about it, we definitely don't talk about it, but we don't show it. And we try to dive into the thing that we're confident in. So if you have relationship problems, you're going to pour a lot of time into work because you're more confident there. But the relationships with suffering and if you don't have a happy wife, you don't have a happy life. So, you know, there's. It's going to nag at you even while you're at work. That's going to just fall apart. And so I think it comes into play with men, especially. We need to tackle those things that we know are kind of nagging at us or we know we need to talk about. If your woman is, like, stressed, like, help her out. Like, man up and help her. If she. If you feel like. And this is the biggest thing, if you feel like something Is wrong. It probably is.

Mm.

So you need to communicate it, and it can be a scary thing, so you don't know what she's gonna react like, but you need to be the man and say, look, I'm. I. And communicate your intentions. I'm noticing this, and I love you, and I want this for us. What's going on? How can I help? How can I be more for you? It's, how can I be more for you? Versus, oh, you need to do this better, and you need to do that. Make sure you do that. Right. Like, it's not pointing fingers. It's what can I do? And focusing on yourself, and when the two of you can come together at it like that, then it'll. It'll blossom into something awesome. But that makes that make sense. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it makes. It's a great workflow. It's like, hey, it's not pointing fingers. It's. I'm noticing that this is coming up for me. This is my hallucination of what's going on here, and. Yeah, let's chat. How can I be better? How can I do more for you? And, you know, depending on your relationship style, there's different dynamics, certainly, and, you know, mileage may vary, and people are different, you know, even as subsets of their own gender and what they like. But I think knowing a person and being intimate with a person is really a depth question. Right. It's like, how deeply do you understand their needs and how they like those needs met? And a relationship is a place you go to give things.

Totally. Yes. Not get. And that's. Yeah. I have to tell that to, like, everybody.

Yeah, they're. Both parties show up in that space. You know, if both parties show up as givers, then they both get their needs met, and if not, the whole thing falls apart. And I think that's really. That the core of a lot of relational problems, or these people just aren't in a place where that even made sense in the first place, and it was doomed to begin with. But that's. That's just a time and maturity thing. I think everybody's going through their own story arc, and they need to have different experiences before they can really know who they are and what they want. And then from that place, find a mate who is appropriate for them on more levels than just what they look like or, you know, how attractive you are to that person. I mean, that's. That initially will draw you in, but it won't sustain a relationship.

Totally.

Okay, cool. And you're married.

Now or no. Okay, got it. I've just done a lot of research on this stuff, so that's how I've been able to help out other people. I've hooked somebody up that is now engaged. So that happened.

Right on. If people are getting value, you know, and you've had relationships. Everybody said relationships in the past I can draw from for experience. You know, I think values in the eye of the beholder. Right. If you. If people feel generally helped, they're getting better results in their life. And, you know, I'm kind of. I used to really be hardcore about qualifications and certifications. What I'm realizing now is that people use as an excuse not to help. They feel. You know, they feel like, oh, well, I'm not qualified to talk about that. Like, this just happened to me in my mastermind. I'll just tell a personal story. I have a client who has been divorced twice and now is happily married. And really, guess what? That, like, and how much it sucks. And I have another member of my team who was having trouble in his relationship. And I never put it together that, well. I felt unqualified to help because I'd never been married. That was the first thing. And then I never put it together that, hey, this other guy who really gets this piece who came to us for business help could totally help him. I never put that together. So he got really upset with me because he's like, dude, you know, this is what I do. Like, why didn't you just. I was like, you know what? Honestly, I just never made the connection. I'm pretty good at making connections. I just never. Never came up. And I was really glad he called me out, because now I realize, like, it's not my responsibility to solve every problem. I'm not qualified to solve a problem. But guess what? I can make a recommendation for somebody to go further down the road and not just sit and suffer. And you got to let all the pretenses go of clients versus, you know, the facilitators versus the business owner, whatever. It's all got to dissolve. And we all got to just be people first.

Yeah.

And then form those relationships and then build arrangements around that that are mutually beneficial and valuable. And if you drop the ball as a leader, if your people are suffering, it's your fault, you know, and it's not your fault in the sense, like, it's all up to you, but it's your fault that if you're not taking distinct, clear action as a leader to make sure that the people in your life have what they need or at least have been offered, they have to show up and use it. What they need or encouragement or inspiration or whatever it is that you can provide, whether you're the best in the world at or not. Like, stop waiting. To be the best in the world is something. Stop waiting to have all the answers yourself and just help. Sometimes helping is just listening, like intently to somebody just kind of unloading on you. That's helpful. Sometimes. It doesn't have to be anything magical. You don't have to be the best in the world at it.

Totally.

So, Kevin, if, if you were to look back at your life so far, how old are you right now?

23.

Nice. All right. I've been interviewing a lot of young entrepreneurs and it's just been an incredible experience to see where people are at compared to where I was at. And just seeing. It's honestly very encouraging how much knowledge and sage Wisdom the average 20 something had that I didn't have, certainly in my peer group didn't have. And it's just a ten year difference. Right. So, you know, thank you for that and thank you for being part of this generation of people who actually want to, you know, grow and contribute and give back and be a part of the solution and not feed the problems. So thank you for that. But also, you know, like, you have your whole twenties ahead of you and it's great to see and I know that you're going to be making bigger, bigger dents in the world and, you know, these things will work out and these things won't and it'll continue to shape you as a man. But like, what do you, what are you really most looking forward to? And what do you, what would you say have been your biggest accomplishments so far? Like, when you look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day, you say to yourself, you know, I'm grateful that you're alive, which I hope you do.

Yeah.

You know, if you haven't told yourself lately, you know, that I'm grateful that you're alive, then maybe you should start. What are the things you're grateful for? What are the things that you're looking forward to?

I'm grateful for, man. I'm proud of myself first off, for all this, everything that I've achieved or gone through and made it to the other side. And because of all of that stuff that I've gone through, I'm able to help out other people go through it as well. I'm in whatever area of life it is. So I'm excited about, I'M proud too of just like my clients, I've got hundreds of before and after pictures and testimonials and it's not just, oh, Kevin, help me get abs. It's way deeper and it's looking at that and the inspiration that I've brought to other people to change their life and just the ripple effect that that brings because, you know, who knows whose life they could change out of that. Right. And I'm really excited for just my career and what it's going to shape to be, you know, I don't know, 10 years down the road. I just know the next step ahead of me and that's still stuck with fitness and still keeping that ball rolling and blowing that up and somehow tying in this masculine feminine thing into it or maybe making that its own thing one day. But I see that being a big piece in my future as well. Because like you said, like I've got my whole 20s ahead of me. I'm only 23, like anything could happen if something else could come in and be my mission, you know, but I'm just taking the ball and rolling with it.

Yeah. And people might be listening to this and be like, oh, this kid's 23 was, you know, everybody has something to offer. I don't care if you're 12 or 15 or 18. I know 15 year old kids that are making multi millions of dollars or running teams of hundreds of people. It's crazy what is possible these days with the right mindset. And really it's not even just having the right mindset, it's like not having all the negative, you can't do it influences. I grew up around a lot of that stuff. Right. If my slate was just clean, I didn't have a lot of trauma and blockage and boundary crap and just stuff that I'm working through. Like I would have been a lot further along in life. And I know we're all here for a purpose. I know we're all progressing our own rate. And it's not a competition certainly it's a cooperation. Right. I want to rise up. Young people that are doing that are on the right path. Right. Even if they don't have all the answers, even if they don't quite have it all figured out, even if they're not like the world renowned expert yet they're on their way and we can see and plot their trajectory over time. We can see and understand how they grow in shape and maybe have a small influence on them as well as they continue to grow into the world changing Leader that they will one day be. Because guess what? Everybody who's president now or senator or congressman or, you know, head of a Fortune 500 company now was once a 23 year old kid.

Yeah.

Or a 32 year old kid or whatever age you are. It doesn't matter. Right. Like, people look at me sometimes like, what the hell would I listen to you for? Like, maybe I have a few things on the ball. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but you know, there's a few things I've figured out in my life. And born of great pain and perseverance, I've managed to become an expert at some things and to really succeed in some areas and to dismiss anybody because of their age or because their statute or what they've not or done or still are yet to do in life. Silly. And you know, I really truly believe that if everybody just stepped up as a leader in society, the whole world would shift. The reason I love entrepreneurs and why I do what I do so much, I'm going a little bit on rant here, is because entrepreneurs create more than they consume and they create before they consume. And if everybody just did that, just created a little more than they consume and created before they consumed, the world would shift overnight.

That's good.

I borrowed that from Kurt. He's Kurt Walker. He's a consummate connector like myself.

Sweet.

People always come in your life for different reasons. I truly believe that today was the reason for this interview was for me to be reminded that. Life is what's happening now and make the best of it.

Yeah. For me to reflect back and go, I'm only 23 in a good way. But like I compare a lot of.

Yeah, of course you do. Everybody does. Comparison imposter syndrome. Who am I to say this or do this?

I don't have the much of the. Who am I? I have more of like, I hang out around people who are 30s and 40, like 30 year olds and 40 year olds who are, you know, have more time in the game than me and kind of beat myself up for not being at their, their spot yet. But it's.

Yeah. You know, and I spent a lot of time around Pete performers and they all have something. They all something they need to work on. Working on something.

Right.

Yeah. And I think just letting yourself be forgiven. Right. Just forgive yourself for being human. We all want to make ourselves machines and we are not machines as you said earlier.

So.

Yeah, I guess the message of this show, if anybody's listening at home, is that it's you know, it's. Now is the time. Just get started doing whatever it is that you're gonna do and get feedback from people and try to do the right thing and communicate with them even if it's not the right thing for them right now. Be willing to own up to that and be like, okay, well, how can I improve? Yeah. So, Kevin, thank you so much for being on the show. And I want to just close out how I always close out, which is, you know, you've taken so much of your time and given so much value to us, and we're really grateful to have you here. What is a way that we can give back to you and connect you to a resource, an opportunity, a person, a system or multiples of such that would help you move your mission forward faster?

Yeah, totally. Just reach out to me either on Facebook Kevin Crenshaw or Instagram Kevin Crenshaw Fitness or my website's Kevin Crenshaw fitness dot com. Those are the best places to reach out to me.

Right on, brother. We appreciate you being here. And do you have any parting words for the audience?

Totally. No. I would say discipline doesn't mean pushing yourself to the extreme. It also means self care.

I like that. Discipline and self care. I needed that message today. Thank you. You've already changed one life today.

Yes.

Many more coming, winning. Right on, brother. Thank you so much for being here.

Totally.

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