Social Distancing Music Party Unplugged - 8/14

We're not doing that again.

I'm getting into music, man. I had my— I got that shake thing. You remember where everybody would— there was that video where everybody would stand around like this And there'd be that one guy dancing, and then all of a sudden it— and everybody'd be like, you know, I had that moment. I, I, I— it was like my first really internet viral video that I was all over that I saw. And, uh, and that was just sad.

Hey, well, here, cheers to another Friday night. We're back on after 2 weeks.

Hold on, kiddos, Daddy been waiting for this all week long.

Oh yeah,

all week long. Well, if you got them, pour them if you have them.

Let's see if we got a little Rafi action here.

Oh, this has been weeks. I was like, something just— a little Careless Whisper, a little Wham on a Friday night. Yeah. Oh yeah, listen, everybody, not a lot of people know that Raffi is the name that he changed to. This used to be Andrew Ridgely. He was the other guy in Wham! Not a lot of people know that, but then— oh my gosh, his name— lost the English accent. That's right, San Jose. It's amazing because he— you know why? Because George forgot to wake him up before he go-go.

Because I— before I go-go. Exactly right. How you guys doing?

I am good. I've missed you. It's been a long time since we've done this. Yeah, so I am thrilled to see you guys and thrilled to have everybody else here. How are you doing, Rafi?

You know, um, under the circumstances, I'm doing great, I guess.

How do you know?

Good, good things are happening behind the scenes right now. That's what I'm gonna say. Um, I'm not gonna— I'm not gonna announce anything yet, but, uh, good things are happening.

How about you did announce something? What would it be?

If I were going to announce something, um, I've, I've taken up, uh, knitting.

Really?

Yeah. No,

what I want to know is how do you keep your hair from going gray? Because I go grayer every week. Look at me. I am, I am the Picture of Dorian Gray that's in the attic.

This is how I keep it from going gray.

Yeah, I

don't know, I'm kind of lucky right now.

As I've said, I've been told my head's not shaped well enough for that option.

Oh, who told you that?

Uh, my wife.

I can't

say. Listen, the only reason I keep this is because I have no chin. I shaved it off once and she's like, don't ever do that again.

Oh, I did the same thing. I shaved my whole goatee off and my kids Told me I'm, I'm, I can't not do that ever. Like, don't, don't ever do that.

Really?

Then my wife said, I want— I'm okay with you shave your head, um, and I promise I'll love you no matter what. And I believed her.

Yeah, well, we shot— we saw where that went.

Yeah, it's

not working out. So no, I'm kidding, we're fine.

Oh, come on, come on.

You know what? I think it turned out pretty well, but I do have kind of a. I had to do it because they have a yarmulke bald spot back here.

Yes, you had one of those.

Yeah, so do I. And I'm not even Jewish, and I've got the yarmulke bald

spot.

You are now.

Yeah, you hang around with a Jewish guy. Does that count? Maybe that's maybe it's you're getting together. Who knows?

I think it's called the L'Chaim Show.

L'Chaim.

L'Chaim.

It's Mazel Tov Friday. There's nothing better than hearing some guy from South Alabama go Mazel Tov. I know Mazel Tov. Didn't he play backup guard on the Tide?

On the Tide. Very good.

I just have no idea what you just said.

Okay, well, there's the Tide.

There's the— yeah, there are people from, uh, because you know every time we do this I, I have some Friends of mine from my small hometown and from my college who will ask me, who'll sit back and say hi. And so that was for them. I just you know it's like if you were Italian and all of a sudden you launched into some and that would be for the hometown. That's what I just did for the South Alabama.

That's right. For the tide.

For the tide. Hey, I just saw your your father said you didn't ask your parents. Bryan,

what, what did I not ask them?

About your hair.

Oh yeah,

about your what?

About your hair.

I should have asked them, then I'd have, uh, uh, many votes.

Yeah, you don't want too many votes.

See, that's another one. Diana, uh, uh, let's see, Diana Applegate Johnson. See, she— here's a— you want a fun story? Let me tell you about this kid right here, because she's a kid to me now, but I used to date her sister, and she ended up marrying a guy from my hometown, and we are We live four and a half hours from each other. Isn't that crazy?

Wow.

So yeah, so I know her husband David, and they're both teachers and just great people.

That's awesome.

That is great. And and we've got my mother-in-law also on here from from they're in Scottsdale right now. But and so that's kind of cool. And we've got other people too. Bambi Barcelona. Oh, that's who you're talking about. Diana. Applegate Johnson.

What about Tony Grebmeier?

That is Tony G. That— he used to do nights at KRTY. Hey, we, we called him— his nickname is affectionately Goob, right? Now the thing, Goob, here's how you have to know. Now, Ryan, uh, uh, Rafa, you're in radio. The problem Tony G had with radio is he is a fantastically good-looking man.

Oh boy,

he is. And, and, and it's like him and Carson, uh, remember Carson Daly used to do nights, the rock and roll station?

Well, Carson Daly Um, lived at my house for a few days.

Did he? And so, you know, exactly. And, and you know when you see those guys who are that good looking, it's like, this world is not for you.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Not for you.

Carson lived at your house?

For a few days, yeah, until he found a place. Yeah, he— because he worked at KOME in San Jose with, uh, me and a handful of others. Yeah, so he— until he nailed down where he was gonna live, he stayed at my place for a couple days. Yeah,

I met him a couple of— he used to go to— we, we did, uh, nights together. We, we both had appearances at San Jose Live. Remember the old San Jose Live?

Yeah, I miss it.

And they—

you miss it? How do you miss San Jose Live?

It was Monday Night Football and I did something and KOME did something and we would be down there together and I got to know him a little bit.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. So he went from, uh Live 105 to KOME to, um, KROQ in LA, and then just took off from there. He's an LA guy, you know, and, um, and, you know, he was very good at what he did, and he played his cards right and did well. So—

You wanna— you wanna know another fun story? You know Julianne Hough and Derek Hough? Julianne Hough and Derek Hough from Dancing with the Stars?

Yeah.

Their brother-in-law, uh, used to keep his tools at my house. When he moved out here, he had a big tool thing and they had no room. And a friend of mine was friends with them, and I got to meet him. And he goes, "Dude, you got this big house. You live there by yourself. Can I keep my tools there?" Now at the time, I didn't know who Julian or Derek Huff was, but I remember his wife and them coming over, and his wife said, "Yeah, my brother and sisters are dancers." And at the time, it's like.

Like, she could, she could dance with— she could make tools look good on the dance floor. Like, that— they are so magical, um, the way that— I don't know if you guys have seen them dance. Obviously, it's just unbelievable what they can do.

Well, if you've watched Dancing with the Stars, she's danced with plenty of tools.

Oh, is that her? Is this our segue, by the way?

Yes, bring them on, bring them on.

Oh my gosh. All right, so, all right, this is, you know, a couple— right before you guys took off on vacation and did your stuff, we had, um, the members of, uh, Gray Matter on the show who are, uh, Bay Area music legends. And, uh, and these guys— and I should say Dave, uh, equals the task as far as legendary status. There he is right there. Um, his band The Odd Numbers, way back in the day, been around forever. And, uh, Put out amazing music, always packed the house wherever they played in the South Bay. And, um, just super stoked. And, and, you know, keep in touch with Dave via Facebook all the time, and just always great to see that he's playing music, the band's still doing their thing. So ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Dave from the Odd Numbers. Dave, thanks for being here.

Hey, how you doing, boys?

Good to be here, dude. So, so awesome. It was, um, It's really funny because, you know, you follow certain guys in their careers and, uh, Dave always, always had it, dude. He always a great frontman, great singer, and great energy. Yeah, man. And, um, and so when it was like, hey, we were thinking, I'm going, God, it'd be really fun to have him on this show. He'd probably have like great energy and, and just would pull it off. So thanks for being here.

Thank you, Rafi. I did kind of want to get on that bald head talk though. That was— I relate, you know. And, uh, I guess—

can I ask you, how did your first experience go? Because I haven't gone all the way.

Oh, I just did this this morning, and, uh, my daughter was just telling me I missed a spot back here. So good thing it's COVID though, right? Doesn't matter.

Did you really just do that this morning? Like, that was—

but I do it every day.

Welcome.

Gotta keep it going all the time.

How does it feel?

Feels like a baby's butt.

Yeah.

Dave, how would you— how old were you when you first took the stage as a frontman?

As a frontman? Well, the first time I ever got up on stage and sang was at my sister's wedding. I was 13 years old, and I got up with the wedding band and played the breakup song by Greg Kinn. For them.

Oh man,

really nice.

Yeah,

I mean, I still know it. Can you still play it?

Oh, I'm sure I can. Oh wow. No, I gotta practice something like that.

I can hear it. I hear it in there.

That hooked you?

What's that?

That hooked you?

That pretty much hooked me because everyone was into it and I'm like, oh wow, I'm getting a response here, you know.

Yeah, so Dave's a local guy too. Dave, um, dude, you grew up, uh, right here in what, um, you went— did you go to Lee High School?

I

went

to Lee. Yeah. And who went to Pioneer?

Ryan?

Yeah, I went to Pioneer.

We're from the same semi-hood then, huh?

Yeah.

And where'd you go to middle school? So did you do, um—

Union.

Union Middle School. Okay, got it.

Alta Vista Grammar School.

Gosh, you are total— yeah, absolutely. So then when did you guys— when did Odd Numbers How old were you when you started Odd Numbers?

I was right after high school, so like '88 we started.

Got it. And were all of you at, uh, at Lee?

Yeah, we were all best friends. It was like, it was our plan to get out of— to make it around, uh, working and whatnot.

It's awesome. I didn't realize all of you went— I didn't realize all of you went to Lee.

Yeah,

for, for those of you who aren't here in San Jose, that's like 10 minutes from where we're all sitting. Um,

yeah,

and so it's not far from each other, and yet we're all like in lockdown. So it's kind of like we're, we're distanced and yet we're close.

Yeah.

No, can we play some music?

Yeah.

What song do you want to do first, Dave?

I'm gonna do this song because I'm feeling it, baby.

Let's do it.

Summertime Blues by Eddie Cochran. I'm gonna raise a fuss, I'm gonna raise a holler. I've been working all summer just to try to earn a dollar. Well, I try to call my baby, try to get a date. My boss says You're gonna die, son, you gotta work late. Sometimes I wonder what I'm gonna do, but there ain't no cure for summertime blues. Yeah. My mom and pop, they told me, son, you Gotta earn some money if you wanna take the car to go driving next Sunday. Well, I didn't go to work, I told the boss I was sick. My boss said, go die, son, you didn't work a lick. Sometimes I wonder what I'm gonna do, but there ain't no cure for the summertime blues. Yeah! It'll take 2 weeks, gonna have a fine vacation. I'm gonna take my problems to the United Nations. But I called my congressman and he said, quote, I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote. Sometimes I wonder what I'm gonna do, but there ain't no cure for the summertime blues. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to help you, son, but you're too young to vote.

But the summertime blues—

Did you know how old you are? When you got on stage at 13, did you already know how to play guitar, or is that something you learned?

I, I was already on it. My older brother gave me his guitar when he joined the Navy, so I was learning at that point. And I finally got a hold of it, you know.

Did he sit down with you and pick up the guitar and said, this is how you meet chicks? Did he have that story? Did he, did he do that, tell?

I kind of figured that out myself, but like That's how I got my first girlfriend, playing, uh, I'll play what I played for her.

Oh yeah, that's it, come on!

And I had her.

Keep going, keep going.

Wait,

that's— come on.

Hey Dave, wait a second, that's all you knew, right? You just kept playing that little loop over and over again?

Pretty much, yeah, that was enough. They'd be like, play it again, play it again.

You know, you know I could do that with Rhapsody in Blue on the piano. I can go ping, da da da da da, you know, da da da da da da. And that, but I know those 12 bars and that's it. And people go, they all lean in like, you can play.

That's all anyone wants to hear anyway is the starting of a song, right?

Yeah, that's it.

Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Hey, let's say hey to some people. Sandra Carraway Harvey says, hey Gary. Michael Reyes says, go Dave, go. Um, yeah, you know Dave or Michael?

No, I don't, but I'm just saying thank you, bro.

Yeah. Uh, Debbie Goble, uh, Amelia Rolopoli, uh, that's Emmy, and Bambi Barcelona, and my, uh, my wife Karen saying yay. And you probably remember, uh, the band Odd Man Out from back in the day, right?

Don't you?

Yeah, well, Karen was their keyboard player. My wife, turns out she was the keyboard player for Odd Man Out.

I remember her. I saw her picture picked Pop up and I'm like, I know her somewhere from somebody else.

You guys were all talking about your schools because you guys are all from the same area. I am from, uh, LA, and by that I mean Lower Alabama.

Lower

Alabama. And Sandra Carraway Harvey is one of my classmates. We were going to celebrate our 40th, 50th something, uh, high school thing this year, but, uh, but that didn't

happen.

Thanks, COVID.

Yeah, that's right.

Good to see you, Sandra.

Hey, and then, um, can I say, hey, you know what, we've got a new, uh, new viewer, my friend Karen Prial. Um, met her last week. We were a group of people were out walking and she was part of that group. And thanks for, uh, joining us. Awesome. And, um, we've got our Studio City friend, my sister-in-law Carolyn, on board. And yeah, we've got all kinds of people tuning in today. This is awesome. Great to be back.

Somebody—

you guys want to punch out another song? I just— let's hear some great music. I mean, we got to do this. What do you say?

By the way, songs—

what?

Can I buy— can I play one of my songs for you?

Go, by all means.

So the Odd Numbers put a new record out, uh, it's almost 2 years ago now, but that's pretty recent for us. Yeah, this was one of the, uh, the better songs on it.

One of the betters? Are you saying the other ones were not?

Come on. You can't have them all. But I keep on thinking how things might have been if only one little thing might have changed. 'Cause from that day on, things never seemed the same. Time, time, time heals all. Yeah, time, time, time heals all. All the things I want to do, all the things I want to be. Seen a sign on the city street that says do what you want to be. Can't escape from the past, it's a blast that I'm never ever gonna forget. Gotta keep on digging, keep on diving back. Time, time, time heals all. Yeah, time. Time, time wheels on. See the past in a different light when you come up. Let the pieces find themselves and fall into place. All you needed was to step away. Save your worries for another day. Thank you.

Yeah. Yes. So,

Dave, what was the inspiration for the song? And like, when did you write it? And tell us a little bit about it.

Uh, that song actually inspired the whole new record. I wrote that and I hadn't been writing for a long time. I'm like, oh wow, that's a pretty good song. I better write a record for that. But, uh, the song's about like, uh, dealing with your shit over a long period of time. It gets easier to deal with, figuring things out over time.

Yes.

Isn't it just because you start caring less? Maybe, you know, that's to me the stuff that I used to get so, so jacked up about. Remember that you would— the things that you think about when you were 19 or 25 By the time you get to later in life, not that we're 14 million years old, but you just don't care about them as much because you filled your life with so many other damn things to care about.

I agree.

Yep. Yeah.

When I was in high school, I used to trip out on my arm hair. It used to bug the hell out of me. I'm like, and a couple years later, I'm like, what was I tripping on my arm hair for? I mean, that's right.

I mean, but at the time At the time, it's like the biggest thing in the world. And that's one of the things I've, I've got young children. And the thing that about parenting I've learned, and plus getting older, is it makes you a time traveler because you can go in the future and see stuff in your head, right? Like my son has braces and he hates them. And we just got them like last week. And I told him, dude, if I could bring your 30-year-old self here, he would pick you up and go, thank you. Thank you for undergoing this sucky year and a half. But thank you, man. This right here, and you can totally see it in your head. So to me, as well, we said it makes you a time traveler, and and you start realizing the little stuff that doesn't matter and the little stuff that does.

You're on to something, Gary. Big time.

Gary's a critical thinker. Can you tell?

Just the martini talking.

Hey, um, Carissa says hey, Dave.

Carissa, how you doing, darling? Love ya.

There you go. And, um, you know, do you remember the band Kooch Bahar? Were you guys around during the Kooch Bahar era?

Um, actually, that's not— that's a new one for me.

Um, Paula Lykins, Carrie Fisher, they were both, um, singers. Um, Paula says hello, um, from way back when. So ex-Montevista High School, uh, friend, but also sing in Kuchipar way back when. So pretty awesome. Um, hey, uh, it says Joy Di Maria Dorman says hey to you. Who is that?

That's one of my old friends, one of my good friends.

Nice. And that's— man, you got a lot of old friends tuning in here. David Nicholson.

David, he's awesome. One of my mod friends from Sacramento.

There you go.

Haven't heard that term in a long time.

I know, right?

When we first started out, we were really involved in the mod scene. Joy and David are both from the mod scene, like Berkeley and stuff like

that.

Dave, did you play any Kinks songs from way back when?

Oh yeah, yeah,

I've

always been obsessed with the Kinks. So

that— you know what, you're not gonna believe me, but in my head I'm going I always kind of related you with the Kinks and the Who. That was like how I always, um, if someone said Dave, I'd just go Who and the Kinks.

I guess I'm finally getting through to someone.

That's right.

See, it's like your very own breed of bird. You're a Kinkahoo.

Gosh. So, um, all right, um, Bryan, do you have any big questions for our friend?

Yeah, I do. I'm— I— thanks for asking. I, I I'm curious, you know, every musician has— that we've talked to has like their favorite time in an era where they were playing and it just felt like one of those most perfect golf shots. It just— you know what I mean? Like where it just— it was just— you were on top of the world and life was good and music was epic. Do you remember a time like that?

For sure. The mid-'90s. It started— it started early. The earlier parts of the mid-'90s were just awesome for like our type of music and like, uh, just coming up and playing. We, we played everywhere. We used to tour all over the place, and it was just the height of that and the height of the free— of, of being free and traveling in a band with your friends and like, uh, just doing everything you wanted to do, you know?

Yeah.

So this will lead in to some Elvis Costello, I'm thinking.

You want me to do one of those?

Oh, that'd be great.

Elvis Costello? Come on, Dave, what's so bad about peace, love, and understanding?

Let's see.

I don't see anything funny about that.

Let's go over this.

Let's go.

As I walk through this wicked world. Searching for light in the darkness, insanity. I ask myself, is all hope lost? Is there only pain and hatred, misery? 'Cause each time I feel that slip away, there's one thing I've got to know. What's so I thought about peace, love, and understanding. As I walk through these troubled times, I still But it is so downhearted sometimes. So well strung. Who are the trusted? Where is this harmony, sweet harmony? 'Cause each time I feel them slip away, it makes me wanna cry. What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? Wow, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? Wow, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? 'Cause each time I feel them slip away, just makes me want to cry. So what's so funny about the peace that I'm staying under? Well, what's so funny about the peace that I'm staying under? Well, what's so funny about the peace that I'm staying under? I'm not funny. You tell me.

Ah, yes.

Doesn't— doesn't— is it just me, or doesn't it make you secretly happy that Elvis Costello and Diana Krall are still happily married and just percolating along under the radar? They have 11-year-old twin sons, and they just percolate on under the radar, and you never hear about them. It's not like Camila Cabello and Shawn Mendes breaking up. Oh no. We need time apart. I mean, you just have Elvis and Diana going, listen, we're just going to live life. Both of us are great musicians. We're— we'll sing together, but we'll also just keep our separate lives. I, I think they— when you look at people who seem to have it kind of figured out, they seem to have it kind of figured out.

Gary, I think about that a lot, actually. I think about them sitting in their living room and just jamming together, like, just to pass the time, right? I mean, Between the two of them, they could play anything together and make it sound brilliant. Right?

I mean, well, and everybody has their everybody has their their strengths, right? I mean, nobody's ever going to say, "Wow, that Elvis Costello's voice." I mean, because let's be clear, I love Elvis Costello. But Dave, you saying that like a normal person, where Elvis is going, "What's up, buddy? Bye, peace out, dad." You know, but he can write those words. He can write that word. And Diana Krall. could literally sing, uh, a German butcher shop menu and make it sound flippin' amazing.

Hey,

hey,

can I

ask, Dave, am I crazy or did Nick Lowe do a version of that too?

Nick Lowe wrote that song, actually.

That's it, it was Nick Lowe who wrote it. Elvis Costello did the COVID correct?

Right, he almost made it big. Yeah, it was like pretty folky, actually, so It never really went anywhere.

Nicko, uh, Cruel to Be Kind. Cruel to Be Kind.

Good one.

That's a good one.

Can you throw a little bit of that guitar riff in?

Yeah, gotta be cool. I used to play it. I don't remember how it goes now.

In the right measure.

Damn it.

You know, and we're just throwing this— I know, I know you guys don't believe this, but we don't practice this show. So we're just throwing this on today, and the fact that he's willing to go along with it— Dave, you are a total pro. Thank you so much.

Yeah, we were— wait, what are you talking about, Gary? We spend a good

Tuesday, Tuesday and Thursday nights from 6 till midnight. That's what we practice

every night. That's right, we— 2 days a week we're going full blast.

When you say practice, you mean what?

Drink?

Hey, um, can we say hey to a few more people?

Do it to it.

Tiffany

said rather not.

What's that?

I'm kidding.

I, I did— did I tune you out again? Were you talking to me? What, what, what jab did he toss at me? I'll— don't worry, Brian, don't worry, I'll get you. Don't worry about that.

The last time we did this show, I was in Oklahoma.

That's right.

Think about it, it's been a while since we've gotten together. This has been too long.

Oh, hey, um, hey Dave. Yep. Julie, Julie Kodama.

Yeah.

Says ask him to play Jump.

Ha! She's been trying to get me to do that for a while.

Oh, um, the Van Halen?

Yeah, but I do a different version of it. Should I do it?

Yeah, dude,

we're up for it right now.

Julie, here we go. I get up and nothing gets me down. Got it tough, I've seen the toughest all around. And I know just how you feel. That's Roll with the punches, get to what's real. Can't you see me standing here? I've got my back against the wrecking machine. I ain't the worst that you seen. I guess you know what I mean. Well, you might as well Jump. Yeah, you might as well jump. How old are you who said that, baby? How could you? You don't know. Oh, you don't You know, until you've been in. Can't you see we're standing here? I've got my back against the wrecking machine. I ain't the worst that you've seen. I guess you know what I mean. Well, you might as well jump. Go ahead and jump. Yeah, you might as well jump. Go ahead and jump. Is that enough?

Wow.

When I was in pop radio a long time ago, when that song was out, I did a big band version of it and it was amazing. That song translates better than you can imagine.

A big band?

Wow. Oh yeah, well, you just sit back and you go, I get up and, you know, you know,

baby, swing it.

You know who that was?

I've seen the toughest around.

Gary, you know who did a version of that? Um, what's the old dude's name? Um, he did a whole big band. Um,

Rod Stewart.

No, no, no. Um, Neil— no, uh,

not Neil Diamond. No, there's no, uh,

Neil deGrasse

Tyson.

No, my gosh, because they went right out of my head. Um, I'm gonna look it up now because you're making me crazy. Um, not Neil Sadaka. Um,

Sadaka is back.

No, no, no. Um, you guys talk, I'm gonna look this up.

So

Robbie's off video now looking up what he needs to know.

So what I asked this week on, on my own show, and I thought I would share and see what you guys here in the age of video conferences— if you could, if you could video chat with a celebrity or famous person, you know, who would you pick? You could pick any, any celebrity or famous person. Or somebody that you wouldn't have access to, who would it be? And it may be somebody that none of us know.

Pete Townsend for me.

Really?

Yeah.

What?

Talk to Pete.

Do you, do you think, do you think he would be— do you get the fun Pete or the bitter crazy Pete?

I like both versions. I like both of

them. What a great answer.

We got some good ones coming in too. Everybody keep putting your, uh,

your answers in so we can, we can show them up.

Uh, Gary, uh, yeah, who wrote The Tonight Show theme, in case you ever missed

it.

Well, look up— when you guys have time, look up Paul Anka Jump, and you'll— and it's a total big band.

I, I did it before he did it because I did it when it was a brand new song.

Oh well, excuse me.

I know, but you saw how much money I made off from it.

See, so here we go. We got, um, can we say hey? I want to say hey to, uh, Sean, uh, down in Southern California. Sean Hornby, my brother-in-law down there, uh, listening

in. We got a whole question out here right now.

Oh, I know, but I'm saying hi too. Okay,

all right,

in between your question.

I'm doing it all.

Wait a minute, is this brother-in-law married to Carol?

Yes.

Okay, I just realized that your wife is Carolyn's sister then, right?

Right.

Now I'm putting it all together. It's been a while.

Yeah, dude, what an amazing memory you have.

I would love to ask Pete Townshend, tell me how you really feel about Roger Daltrey and how much of a— how much of a whack job nuthead were both Keith Moon and Roger Entwistle? Because I mean, listen, Roger Entwistle had a heart condition but still didn't keep him from growing Send up all the hookers and send up all the blow. I'm in.

He died the day before they were gonna go on tour too, right?

Like he said, I've got a heart condition, but send up all the hookers and all the cocaine and let's see what happens.

Attaboy.

Well, and we saw what happened.

So we got, we got some fun answers here. We got Aztec Camera.

Yes.

Uh, Tony Bennett.

Yes.

We've got—I don't know who this is.

Cala, doggy doo.

You guys know?

Coming down, doogie doo. That's Bill Herman.

No, that was from Paul Anka. Cop break hard too.

Okay.

There you go. Yeah.

And then we've got Brian Setzer.

Yep, my friend Emmy. Yep, Brian Setzer, of course, of the Stray Cats fame.

We've got somebody who said it would be Rafi.

Yeah, it would be Rob. Yeah, thanks, Bill. Bill is a legend in the DJ world. Great guy. One of the, one of the best people you'll ever meet in your lifetime.

Who would you pick, Bryan, if you could Zoom? Because you, you understand social media better than anybody. Would you go somebody's social media, or would you go just pure fanboy?

So the question is, would I— who would I Zoom with?

Who would you, if you could have a 30-minute Zoom? with any— somebody you don't have access to, you know. And again, please make them alive.

Oh, they have to be alive?

Yeah. Okay, so I'll tell you who. Um, it would, it would, uh, be Malcolm Gladwell.

Malcolm Gladwell?

Yeah.

Yeah, fill me in.

Fill me in.

You guys don't know who Malcolm Gladwell is, you need to look him up.

Malcolm Gladwell wrote the He wrote a bunch of books, Tipping Point, Outliers, um, and just, just the way that he thinks about— he— so his whole thing is he takes something that we all think about all the time and he makes it about— he makes you think about it differently.

Mm-hmm.

It makes you think, well, why did I always think about it that way? And so the tipping point is something we've always known But he, with the way he wrote it, he actually scientifically proved what the tipping point actually is. So I just, I, I think the guy's fascinating.

Great answer. How about you, Rafi?

Um, and they have to be alive, huh?

Yeah, because it's really hard to connect to the dead on so many levels.

Oh, it depends on who you

are. Yeah,

you know what, it would have been Tim Conway. That would have been awesome. Uh, I guess alive, I, I would, um,

not Don Knotts.

I, well, Don Knotts will be up there too. I like Don Knotts, um, from Apple Dumpling Gang. Um, nah, you know what, I, you know what, if I could do a 30-minute call with a Zoom call, it'd probably be Garth Brooks. I'd probably have a good time talking to him.

And you would.

Wow, I didn't expect that.

You would. I, I have had plenty of time with Garth because, as you'll find out, Bob, I'm the name dropper. I will drop a name. But yeah, I love some of the answers here. Keith Richards, Paul Weller. How about that?

That's me.

RBG, the notorious RBG. Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

I'm with that guy that said Paul Weller for sure.

Yeah. Bonnie Raitt. Let's see. Wow. It's a lot of good things. Somebody said Loretta Lynn. Yeah, she's had strokes, so I don't know how well— I don't know how cognizant she would be. If you could have her clear of mind, I think she would be fascinating because she could literally tell you what Patsy Cline was really like.

Is that good or bad?

I find Patsy Cline fascinating. Patsy Cline was— we've made her into this hazy icon, right? She was a woman who fought people, who would get into fights. I mean, she was hardcore. But she had this amazing voice. She got married when she was like 15 years old so she could sing in clubs. So that way she'd be married. I mean, she had a vision. But it's very fascinating. But it's funny. I mean, I think that's 3 great choices, guys. That was—

Yeah.

That was fun.

And, uh, who would you pick? Uh,

LT, who would you pick?

You know who I would pick? Uh, somebody put Dolly Parton. That'd be fun. I think Dolly Parton would be so much fun. Uh, there's a guy named Ray Porter. Ray Porter, in my opinion, is the best audiobook narrator there has ever been. And I, I am such a fan of audiobooks. I would, I would love to talk to Ray Porter and see how he does What he does.

More of a listener, huh, Gary?

I love. I listen when I exercise. So when I run or I hit the dreaded Peloton, what gets me through is listening to audiobooks. And I'll give that tip to anybody. If you're if you're running or exercising, listening to music, music becomes a measurement of time. But if someone is telling you a story,

yeah,

dude, that's all good right there.

I know Rafi listens to podcasts while he walks. That part, same kind of thing, right?

Yep, I actually enjoy it. It's a good break from— because I listen to so much music, it's a good break for me to not listen to music. So, but you know what I'm feeling like?

Humanly Possible.

You what? What's that,

Brian? Humanly Possible. It's a podcast.

Which one?

That I do.

Humanly Possible with Brian Kramer.

Oh, that one. Yes, I've heard of that one. Yeah, I've—

that, that's one of them.

You know, there is rumor that he hit 1,000 subscribers today too.

I just—

rumor. He did

today.

Yeah, kind of excited. I told you this, Brian and I met at the cigar shop this week because that's what we do. And I told him to his face, I have learned so much from you about the art of interviewing. Because he is so good at it, though he would never claim it. I— he's amazing at listening to people.

All right, all right, enough.

And Gary, to have you say that is like, what?

That liquor is really working, isn't it? Good guy.

Hey,

yeah,

are we having a love fest here?

Time for another song.

Thank you. Dave is sitting there going, oh please stop it all, would you please? Come on, let's get on with the show.

Gary's the only one drinking. I would have joined, man.

Watch Brian. Brian's been tipping him back too, you're just not seeing it. All right.

Hey, what do you? What do you want to? Um, did I? What was it? Were you gonna do a Who song or what were you thinking you wanted

to do? Because you know what I've been sitting at home watching Netflix and like you know just everyone else. And I watched that Frank Sinatra thing on there, that All or Nothing special. It's awesome. And uh, so I want to do a Frank song for you guys, huh?

Awesome.

And this is uh the Summer Wind. Timely, right? Hey.

I love

it. More wind today. Summer wind blowing in from across the sea, linger there to touch your hair along with me. Summer long, we sang that song and we strolled that golden Sand, 2 sweethearts, and the summer wind. Like paper kites, those days and nights, they have come and gone. World was new beneath the blue umbrella sky. Soft land of Piper Man, one day they call you. I lost you and I lost you to the summer wind. Now the autumn wind and the winter wind, they have come and gone. Still those days, those long days. The lonely days, they go on and on. Guess whose sighs is lullabies all night? They're calling you. I lost you then. I lost you to somewhere. That old somewhere. The warm somewhere.

I like that one.

Hey, don't you love Sinatra? If you really listen to him, how he literally changes something on every lyric. He never does anything twice. And how much dedication and effort had to go into that? That's something that most people don't even notice.

Well, it comes naturally to him, but it doesn't come naturally to everyone, that's for sure.

Yeah, it's— I, I, yeah, I love Sinatra. I don't think he was a fun person. I don't think he's anybody you'd want to spend an hour with. I really don't. But by the same token, I don't know after watching The Last Dance if you'd want to spend an hour with Michael Jordan either. But you can love what he did.

Wow.

Well, he's just so competitive that there— he can't turn that off.

Yeah,

right. And so anything he does is going to be something competitive, which made him great on the court.

Wouldn't it be great to know where that comes from?

I think it comes from right here, right here. Yeah, I think that is so—

I mean, that resilience, like when he's— when he is down and he just like— there's one moment where he had food poisoning from pizza. that delivered pizzas to him at 10:30 at night the night before the finals. They deliver a pizza, they know he's in there, and he's in Boston, I think. No, he's in, uh, Utah.

Seattle?

Utah Jazz, and he's in the finals. And they— and he, uh, he, he ended up eating the pizza, did, and no one else ate it. And he's sick all night long. He's put on an IV bag He's in the hospital, he can't play, and the next night he shows up and he is doing horribly. And when you watch that one scene of his face— and this is what got me— his face is down, his hands are in his face, and all of a sudden he just looks up and he gets this look, and he's 18 points down, and bam, he says, no way, and he comes back 46 points Wins the game.

Yeah, you know what I where did

that come from?

What is that?

Here's what's that, Dave.

The Bulls used to be so rad to watch with Rodman and all those other guys. You know,

here's my theory. Even though Michael told that story because we all want to be the hero in our own story, I have read at least four accounts that people who were there who were with him that afternoon said. It wasn't food poisoning, it was a hangover. Because he wants to be the hero of his own story, even though he doesn't realize throwing the hangover off and doing that is just as awesome. Matter of fact, it's even more awesome, you know. But yeah,

my hat's off to him for that.

I've, I've talked to people who've literally played with Michael Jordan on the golf course, and they're like, you can't drink more, nor can you smoke more cigars, nor can you talk more trash than Michael Jordan on the golf course.

I bet, I bet. Have you seen his eyes? The yellow?

Oh, dude.

Yeah,

he's, he's hardcore. Like I said, what made him great would make him tough to be around.

You know, the greatest athlete of all time. That's the question.

What's that, Dave?

What's the yellow in his eyes? I don't know about this. What's going

Uh, liver.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's, uh, because he, uh, he goes hard. He's pushed hard. He's pushed very, very hard. That's—

I, I don't mean to cut you guys off, but I just looked at the clock and we've got about, I don't know, 10 minutes. And I'm gonna be very selfish, I want to get a couple more songs in. Is that, is that bad of me to say?

Fine, let's do it.

Yes, it's great.

See, hey, you know what I just did right there? I just, I just went right over Bryan, that's all. You guys want me to run away? He's pouting, he's pouting.

Dave, Dave, this is your call. You do your song, you do whatever you want, buddy. Thank you. Just—

Thanks, man.

I got this one song that I've been—it's been stuck in my head lately. You guys remember the Monkees?

Of course.

Hey, hey!

So this is my favorite Monkees song. It's uh, what is it? What am I doing hanging around? Hopefully I can remember all the words to it. Just a loudmouth Yankee, I went down to Mexico. I didn't have much time. I'm a stand-up baller, loser. There I took advantage of a girl who loved me so. But my fucking thinking is what Sam had come to know. What am I doing hanging around? I should You said you love me, not with words but a kiss. All that I could think of was the train that I could not miss. What am I doing hanging around? I should be on that train again. What am I doing hanging around? What am I doing hanging around? I should be on that train, darling. I should be riding on that train to San Antonio. What am I doing hanging around?

Love it. Woo! How about that?

I feel that way myself.

Dude, Dave, you are just crushing it, man. Thanks for, uh, thanks for being here today. Hey, um, Misty Freeman says hey.

Mist, love ya.

Yep. And, uh, Russ Brown, who, um, by the way, if you guys ever need any auto body work done, Russ Brown, uh, House of Miracles in Cupertino, lights out, one of the best in the Bay by far.

One of the people in Australia are like, come on, Serve me up a service I can get here.

Oh my God. Angela in Santa Cruz from Chaminade says hello. Hello, Angela. Nice to have you on board. My sister-in-law Sue in New Zealand, I guess they're in lockdown or something again. I don't know what's going on over there. Who else? Is that it for right now? I think there's a handful of others. Can we slip in another song or not? What do you think?

I'm already doing it. I've never sung called It's All Right. Just when I think I'm done, realize there's so much more. I'm starting to be told, time back to just walk on. I hope someday I could just be free. Did think it went too well. I'll think the worst anyway. Truth was it went just fine. Came out on top again. When had it gone bad? Rejected steps we took. Figured that it wasn't really all that bad. Just when I think I'm done, realize there's so much more. I'm sorry to be told, turn back to just walk on. It's when I think I know myself, realize it's someone else, and I have to go back to the start and go again. I hope someday I could just be complete. Just when I think I'm done, realize there's so much more. I'm starting to be told, turn back or just walk on. Just when I think I know myself, realize there's someone else. Have to go back to start again.

Boom!

You know what should have happened right there was the Pete Townshend smashing of the guitar.

Guitar drop.

Well, yeah, was that a drop or was that a full— well, he used to smash them into

similar to a mic drop.

Yeah, except what was he— did he play a Strat or did he play a— yeah, he played a Strat, didn't he?

He plays Strats now. He always played them, but he used to play Rickenbackers, Les Pauls, SGs.

Got it. Now he's on a, on a, on a, uh, on the other one.

Yeah, Strat diet now.

Got it, got it. Hey, um, is there any chance we can slip in one more song or not?

Yeah.

Is that okay with Brian and, uh, Gary?

That's all right with you guys.

What about Brian? Brian's giving me this like Evil Eye. And, and do you have somewhere you have to be, Bryan?

Uh, I'm in lockdown, man.

Oh yeah, that's right.

I got nowhere to go.

Yeah, I got a question, Dave. Would you be able to dig up any old Kinks songs? Um, like All the Day and All the Night or, um, anything like that?

You know what, uh, I got, I got something. All right, let's see if we can get this one. I might fuck it up. I mean, I might mess it up.

Thank you.

I'm taking everything I've got. All I've got's this sunny afternoon. Help me, help me, help me, help me please. I got a big fat mama trying to break me. And I love to live so pleasantly. Live this life with luxury. Isn't it a sunny afternoon? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. In the summertime, in the summertime, in the summertime. Help me, help me, help me sail away. Give me 2 good reasons why I ought to stay. And I love to live so pleasantly, live this life of luxury, gazing on a sunny afternoon in the summertime, in the summertime, in the summertime.

Hot diggity dog!

Appreciate it, guys.

Can we do another hour?

Thanks for having me on, guys. This was fun. You got me out of my— thank

you, dude. Awesome. That's, uh, and all the comments, man. Uh, Sheila Sanchez. says, hey, um, ahoy, Captain!

Love you, sailor!

Uh, Paula Barrett Smith, thank you for brightening my hour on this Friday. Um, Greg Oropesa, great friend of ours, of course, from our music days. A great song choice. Your wife even— yeah, your wife Gretchen is on board with us. Love it. Wendy— is it Wendy Cassane?

Wendy Cassane, one of my oldest friends.

There you go. And, uh, Theo Martinez All the all the locals gotta love it. So,

Misty.

Yep, of course. Gotta love it. Fantastic. I think are we Brian? Are we officially done?

Yeah, I I think we're ready when you're ready, man.

When I'm ready. Gary's like uh huh uh huh yes. Brad Dave, you ready to you ready to go? You're out.

Ready to go, I guess. Yeah.

All right. Darn it, we'll do it again. How about that?

Yeah, let's do it.

All right, sounds good. And hey, um, I know we didn't have time to get your Venmo up. Do you have an easy, um, way to get, uh, your—

Um, I think it's Venmo Dave Biza is actually— just put my name and Dave Biza at Venmo.

Okay, awesome. So do it. And man, thanks. And, uh, Brian, why don't you take us home with, uh, whatever song you're gonna sing, Brian?

Right. Have you seen me sing?

Oh, I haven't seen you, but I've heard. Okay,

let's not hurt the people.

Yes, thank you. Well, awesome, Gary. Thank you, uh, Dave. Thank you, Bryan. Thank you as usual for holding this all together as we, we goof around here for an hour. Uh-oh, you know what, before we leave, before we leave Ha!

Let's see you do something with those.

Hold on.

Ha!

There.

Very dangerous.

There you go. Yes. All right. Have a good one, you guys.

All right. Thank you, Dave. I appreciate it. You. Thank you so much. And everybody, thank you so much for joining us.

Awesome. We'll do it again.

Right on.

Bye.