2019 End of Year Small Business Tasks and Opportunities
5 Dec 2019 · 33 min
This is a podcast episode titled "2019 End of Year Small Business Tasks and Opportunities" recorded in December 2019. It features a conversation between two small business owners, Dave Hamilton and Shannon Jean, discussing practical advice and strategies for small business owners to manage finances, tax planning, accounting relationships, and year-end business reviews. The episode includes tips on cash flow management, tax deductions, employee payroll, and creating an executive summary document to track business progress and assist with accounting or financing needs. The hosts also share personal experiences and encourage listeners to consult with their accountants for tailored advice.
Welcome back to the Small Business show, folks. It is almost the end of the year, Shannon. You know, it's time to start thinking about that. I know. Yeah. Yeah.
It's a great time of year, and it's a great time of year to be a small business owner because there's so many opportunities ahead of you in the next few weeks and things to do and ways to save money. And we're going to talk about them on today's show.
We're even going to talk about some ways to spend money to help your business. Yes.
Right. Because you know you can. You can save money by spending.
You can. That. That is actually true.
You've heard that before.
Yeah, but. But most of the time it's somebody leading me to believe something that's not true just to get my money from me.
And this is true.
This is true. In fact, we're not asking you to spend your money. We have a sponsor in this episode, and we sure would love it if, if, if it works out that you and them have some. Some thing where you can do business together. But that's really the only time in the episode we're asking you to spend money on our behalf. We. Most of the time, we are encouraging you, though, to spend money on your behalf because it can actually save you money. It's true. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be great. We're gonna go through a bunch of tax strategies, all kinds of different stuff about your employees and things. And then towards the end of the show, we're gonna talk about one of my absolute favorite things to do after the year starts to wrap up. And that is the executive summary, and we're gonna jump into details and why I think it's so awesome every year.
You sing the praises of that, and I've done started doing some level of it, but I'm not at your level yet. But I'll get there. I'll get there. Yeah.
Yeah. And there's some really interesting ways to look at it. And so we talk about some different methods and different benefits of doing it beyond just for your personal.
It's true. In fact, there's one thing that we talk about that really sort of shifted my thinking about this. So shall we get to it?
Let's do it.
He is Shannon Jean. I'm Dave Hamilton, and this is the Small Business Show. Hey, Dave.
It's that time of year again.
It is the end of the year. I know it's the end of the year. Yeah, it. It's, you know, this is an Interesting time of the year for. For me especially because our business, I think, like a lot of folks, is this is our busiest time. You know, I always say we earn 50% of our revenue in the last two or three months of the year. And that. That's generally true. Sometimes it's even more than that. But we also wind up booking a lot of, you know, next year's business now. And. And, you know, it. There's a lot of path paving that happens this time of year that keeps us busier than we are pretty much any other time. But it's good. I mean, that's fine. But it's also one of these weird things because it's like, oh, of the year's coming up, I have to stop for a minute at least and make sure I'm making the right decisions so that in February I'm not thinking like, oh, crap, I should have done that in December, or I shouldn't have done that in December. I should have waited until January to do that. So this is as good a time as any to carve out to do that. So here we are.
Yeah. And there's a few weeks left. And, you know, you can get surprisingly a lot done and you know that time for things you have to get done. And that's what we want to talk about today and really just kind of dive in. We've done a few of these shows over the years and there's some good things to revisit and some new tips that they want to talk to talk about. And I think the first thing I. It's not my favorite, but it. It does need to come before any of the other things I want to talk about is you need to take some time to review your financial documents.
Oh, that's the first thing to do. That's right. You know my rule. I don't get to look at my P. Ls until I look at my cash flow. So.
Yes.
You know, and that's a place to start. Yeah. Yeah.
So look and see how it's going. And because some of the things we're going to discuss are dependent on how that cash flow looks.
Right. Well, that's. Yeah. Because you need, like, looking at the pnl, this is the time of year we're looking at the PNLs is arguably more important than the cash because that's what's going to appear once it's sort of translated through on your tax return. And you want to kind of have an idea of what that's going to look like while you still have A little bit of time to manipulate it. But. But like you said, without cash, you can't necessarily make the changes that you want to make. So it's important to know how much cash, but not just cash, how much free cash you have that you're not committed to already spending in, say, January or February and also December that you can sort of play with, perhaps, because that's the trick.
That's important, and that data that you look at needs to be good, you know, can't be. You know, they say garbage in, garbage out.
Right.
So you need to know and have confidence in that. So probably a few a little bit before you start making these decisions. Now, as we wrap up the year, it's good to take some time, maybe November and. And actually November, December, a great time to meet with your accountant. They're pretty laid back in my experience, this time of year.
Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me because this is the time of year that I want them and they're always available. It's awesome.
Always.
Yeah.
So it's great. I just met with mine, you know, last week, and we talked about things going on. Do a whole overview of, you know, if you. If your accountant is your personal accountant as well, like mine, is it. That's very helpful because you can look at your business, look at your personal, you know, finances, see where things are, what the impact of things that may have happened during the year. So do that first. Talk with them, get some feedback. I am famous for making an accounting decision that I think is a good idea during the year and then having to have my accountant clean up that mess later on in December.
Yeah, I have a meeting with an accountant this week, but it's someone that I know, but I've never worked with him before. And I mean, I sort of have in a sort of side project thing where I wasn't really in charge of anything. But I've always thought that he might be a good one when the time comes to transition. And I ran into an interesting issue with one of my businesses recently and my main accountant that I've had for perhaps too long. I think it's good to change them every now and then, But I've probably had him for almost 20 years. And I asked both of these guys the same question because it was a funny little scenario that I found myself in. And my main guy was like, yeah, I don't really have any ideas about that. And this other guy wrote me, like, four pages about exactly what was going on. He understood the problem. He offered some different Paths to solve it. It was like, okay, so I'm definitely moving that business to this guy. The question is, am I moving all of them? And, and that might, that doesn't necessarily need to happen at the same time, but sure. But I'm, I'm using this week as an opportunity to perhaps begin that process, but at least open that door.
So, yeah, I love that, that statement you made that, you know, it is good to change and at least get some second opinions or first opinions from someone new that you listen to advice.
I'm nervous about it because I've, I've gotten into a, you know, a comfortable routine with my existing accountant and he sees things. I know I can predict how he is going to respond to certain things. I don't ever like to break the law, but I certainly want to tow right up to the line in terms of what I can deduct and all of those things because that's, that's, that's how the law is.
Patriotic duty, man.
It is. Right. And I'm not, I don't yet know this guy in that way, so I'm not sure that's where I'm a little anxious about it because I, it. I like the way this guy thinks. I think I just want to. I need to find out how, you know, what's his. I don't want, I don't like to say risk tolerance because I don't like to do risky things. But what's his tolerance for? Oh, yeah, do that and if the IRS sends you an audit notice, we'll deal with it.
Yeah. Here's a repercussion. I like to know. I always propose things. Can we do this? And I like it when they say, well, either they'll say, no, no, you can't, or yes, here, that this is the risk reward.
Right, Right. Right.
If it comes back and they challenge that, here's what it could happen like.
That's exactly right. Yeah.
Yeah. And. And sometimes I don't, like, work for a certain business or whatever. Maybe I don't. I don't want to pay our quarterlies, the quarterly taxes, because I have better. I ask, I have better use of the money.
Better use of the cash.
Yeah, better use cash. So I always, I always say, well, what did that cost us this year? Not to make quarter and, oh, you know, $3,000. And I said, for example, oh, well, that's, that's fine. That's a good cost of using that money.
That's right.
You know, flipping it multiple times during that time, during that quarter it's, it's a reasonable expense, so. Yep, I like it.
So, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Along with, you know, sticking with money, I think it's a really good time to look at your accounts receivable and really start thinking, you know, start looking at who's out there that owes you money.
Right.
Making sure that any stragglers that might have got, you know, maybe you haven't paid in a while, well, you want that cash so you can make some of these decisions that we're going to talk about and it give you some more flexibility or if you just, if they're a lost cause and they're never going to pay you, you want to be able to write that off instead of carrying that on your books for another year before you can write it off.
That's right. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, look at that. And December is often a good time to catch those people because they too might be looking for an extra write off and sending you that, you know, that, that settling that debt with you. If they operate on a cash basis as opposed to accruals, well, that might allow them to, to do that. So.
Yeah, and I like that settling, I mean, if it's something that has come to the head and you know your chances getting paid and you're probably not going to do business with that person anymore or that company, maybe a phone call and saying, look, it's the end of the year, whatever, you owe me $10,000, you want to settle accounts up and I'll take five. You know, that kind of thing, trying to reach out and get a solution. You get some cash, you get a write off. Can work out pretty well.
Yeah, it can work out well. Yeah.
Probably a good spot to remind everyone that Dave and I are small business owners, not accountants. So any advice or comments we, you know, give here are strictly from our own experience. And you should not listen to that advice without getting it backed up from your own account.
Yeah, yeah, we, we, we have equal chances of getting audited here as you do. Yes. And, and, and, and we have to suffer the repercussions of our own audits, but we cannot suffer the repercussions of yours. So, yes, make your decisions after consulting your accountant. So. Yeah, that's right.
Always good to point that out.
Yeah, yeah. You mentioned earlier in the show that your accountant that handles your business stuff also hand handles your personal stuff, and he does. This is the time of year to start thinking about if you have some profits and if you have the cash that is free to use those to you know, perhaps I like the term you use. Take. Take some pots of gold off the table and put them, you know, in your personal retirement accounts or whatever you choose to do with them. And in that way. And your accountant can help you with that, too.
Yeah, there's. There's a lot of.
This is where I fail every year, by the way. So I am not good at this.
Yeah. Unless I'm forced to do it. Neither am I. But if you meet the right accountant, they. They're good at. They know this and this stuff. And there's a ton of perfectly legal ways to do it. And like, with one of our companies, my accountant just said, hey, you know, why isn't Renee on the payroll? And. And I said, well, we don't have a payroll because we don't have any employees. He goes, well, you have Renee, you know, your. Your spouse, she's doing. And she is. She does stuff. He's like, sure, she needs to be a, you know, a W2 employee. Then you can give her healthcare, and it's a dramatic savings from paying the healthcare costs versus, you know, just writing a check and this kind of stuff. And, you know, makes total sense. And you really only have to do a payroll, you know, once a year if at.
Oh, it's true.
If you. Yeah, yeah, you don't do it and, you know, or quarterly. That kind of thing. And the other thing that, you know, like, you talk about funding your own retirement account, if you don't have a 401k, can you squeeze something in? If you had a good year and you have excess cash, would you rather give it to the government or put it in your own retirement account or spread it out to you, to your employees as well?
Yeah, right.
What's a better use of cash?
That's right. Yeah. Well, it can go you. And you're right, it can go to you, it can go to your employees, and then I think later we'll talk about it can actually go to your business, too. Just don't keep it in cash. Turn it into something else. But that's down the road here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I. I've often said I do fine when it comes to making money. I don't do fine when it comes to building wealth. And that's actually one of the conversations I need to have with this accountant, because I know very different. I know that I'm just not paying attention to the right things when it comes to that.
The thing is making money, I find the same thing. I don't want to sound bad, but I mean, it's not that difficult. I'm used to it. You kind of put processes, you develop systems, you get revenue. But that building wealth is very different. And we should probably do a show just about that, if we haven't already done one.
Yeah, no, it's just a different thing. That's the problem.
Mindset.
Yeah. People think, oh, you. You run your own business. You've been doing that for decades, so you must be doing great. And I mean, the reality is I'm fine, you know, because I. I can. I can fund my life out of my cash flow, which is great. But there's more to it than that, or so I'm told. Yeah.
Well, I would say if you're on that, generating good cash flow, all that stuff, that's awesome. And you have a great life. The building wealth, in my experience, doesn't hit you in the head. Sometimes it hits you with a hammer until you have some large revenue event where you have excess capital to make some of the decisions that then furthers the opportunity to build wealth and get you kind of connected with people that think like that.
Right, right.
And so that, I believe, is. That's kind of what shocked me into it years ago, being able to think like that and. And just, you know, just taking other people's advice. Even though you want the cash, it's, you know, like.
Well, that's the hard thing if you're. If you're used to spending most of the money that you earn. Right. Like, I mean it. And certainly as a small business owner, you start out, you're spending more than you earn, then hopefully you earn enough and you can, you know, run even. Then you might, like, have a little bit and get ahead, and you might use that little bit of extra either to grow the business or, you know, maybe you buy a nicer house for yourself or something like that, which can creep the lifestyle. Creep. Yes, exactly. Yeah. And of course, buying a house can be seen as building equity and wealth and all that stuff. So that. That it can be. But you might buy a nicer car for yourself. That's definitely a waste of money. You might enjoy wasting that.
I've done that many times.
Yeah, same. But it's not. You're not getting anything out of it other than driving a nicer car.
Yeah.
And the problem is, like, you said that, you know, you get in the habit early on of spending your money, and then if you have a little bit of extra, you're like, well, I'll just spend it. It's fine. I know how to make more. It's like, well, I don't want to have to make more every day of my life for the rest of my life. So. Yeah.
And those things that, you know, I would argue that the things that enrich your life, the new car, all this kind of stuff, travel, you can do that through your business.
Oh, yeah.
Because, you know, you don't want to take, you know, that income and then buy that vehicle with after tax income.
Right, right.
You want to find a way to justify it, at least part of it. Maybe you can'. You know, justify the whole thing, but you, you certainly can, you know, get part of it, keep track of things and enrich your life pre tax.
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Yeah, so we talked a lot about tax liability. I have a couple or a few things just to mention quickly, you know, ways to save on your taxes before the end of the year. If, if you have an inventory business and you've been carrying some stale inventory, now is the Time to, you know, consider taking that write off on the value that you spent.
Right.
Instead of carrying it an entire another year, you know, and maybe, maybe you need to keep it. Maybe, maybe this isn't the year. But if, you know, there's a huge project you have working on, you know, second quarter of 2020, and you're like, wow, we're really going to have a great quarter. Let's, let's not take that write off now. But you certainly want to kind of put it into that bucket of things that you have an opportunity to help write down your profits for your profits, for sure. We talked about this. And then the other thing is, are there things that you need, you know, do you need a new forklift? Do you need a new web server? Do you need, you know, whatever, some new office furniture, new computers for your people? You know, maybe you can pay for those now and take delivery after, you know, the, the first of the year. So get the benefit of, of the expense now and without the liability. If you're, you know, buying assets that you might have to pay tax on or inventory that you might have to pay tax on.
Well, this is what we were talking about before. You can spend the money on, on your employees, on yourself, on taxes. Of course, that's the sort of the default choice if you choose nothing else. And then you can spend it on your business. And this is how you do that. You can take those sometimes, depending on what your business structure is. There are those Section 179 deductions or things that are like that where you can write down more than a year's worth of the expense all at once. Or depending again, you got to talk to your accountant and see where your profits are. You can't go past your profits with it. But, but you can, you can really save yourself on taxes if you just think a little bit. Like you said, maybe you don't need those new computers for your staff until March, but you know, if you, if you have the free cash flow now, you just saved maybe 30% on those. So. Right. Yeah.
And, or, and you might get a good deal because people are moving out product, especially inventory, that they don't want to pay, you know, taxes on the end of the year. So you may, you know, get some additional savings. So it's the thing, one of the things that would suggest is just question the way things, the way you've been doing things too. Let's spend the money now. But also just, oh, we've done this every year. We've had this accountant for 20 years. This is a good time of the year to just question how things work in your organization and look at inefficiencies because that stuff builds up over time. And I constantly, even though I embrace change, I love it. I always find things that, you know what, we could do this better. I could do different, looking at maybe the way someone else is doing it, a different company that you could model at. But I think this is a good time to look in retrospect and look at your systems and processes and make sure they're efficient and up to date.
That's true. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it's a tough time of year to do that because we're knee deep in our systems and processes. But there are some things, like, for example, my accountant, where it's like, no, this is the right time of year to look at that. Some of the other business processes, those are better looked at in, say, June, when things are typically a little slower for us than, you know, than they might be, or sometimes in February for us. But. Yeah, yeah, no, and that's a good.
Point too, is maybe your end of year shouldn't be December 31st. It's so true.
Yeah.
You know, if your end of year, you know, if it's better to have that June, July, slow time to kind of figure things out, maybe that needs to be your. Your fiscal year. I think, you know, Apple does their. They're just going into their first quarter, right?
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Well, not just going into it, but. But their first quarter is kind of the fourth quarter for most.
That's right.
Companies.
Yep.
They have a strong start to their fiscal year. Look at that as well. So questioning things, how you get set up, what benefit could you get by not having to hustle and worry about into the holidays are. I don't want to look at my P. L in December. Maybe, you know, maybe you don't want to look at this kind of stuff.
Or maybe you're like us and, you know, we earn, as I said, we earn a lot of our revenue in Q4. It's tough earning all that revenue and then wanting to get our books as close to, you know, profit neutral as possible. In the thick of that. We would. We would be way better off setting March 31st as our end of year because it would give us time to spend some of that money and manage it out as opposed to having to, you know, finagle things every single December.
Yeah, yeah, that's a really good idea. Good thing to talk to your new accountant about.
I will yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Changing, that's a pain in the neck.
But I know, Yeah, I went through it a couple of years ago. I did. I actually, we. It's a long story, but we have a, A new, relatively new. We've had them for, I think, I don't know, four or five years, but they're great, you know, and, and they have a good team and they question me, which is really good. And they push me because I'm, like I said, notorious for kind of doing things. And even just last week when I met with them, I got hammered for some of our real estate. I read an article says, well, you know, really, each of your rentals should be in a separate LLC to protect you for this. And I'm just like, well, you know, I may move out of California, so I'm going to start these LLCs in Nevada. And I did all this stuff on my own. And he's like, why didn't you call me? Because now we have to do this, this and this instead of doing it this way. There's a lot of processes and the steps in a certain order that give you certain benefits.
I'm notorious of making those off the cuff decisions and then getting yelled at. Yeah, well, it is. And it's not, you know, it's not my accountant or my attorney yelling at me because it affects them. It's that it affects me. Like, yeah, yeah, things are good.
That's good. And I like how this new group where they're kind of, they try at least to hold me accountable and teach me, look, do this. If you're thinking about this, send us a quick email. Uh, you know, and I'm just like, okay, great. We'll, you know, we'll do that. So, yeah, pretty well.
Yeah.
Hey, so the last thing I want to talk about, and it's one of my favorite things to do, and you might need to do it, you know, in. I call it an end of the year. But if you don't have time, you could, you know, certainly do it in January. But it's. I call it the executive summary. And the reason I like this so much is it serves a bunch of different purposes. You know, what you're going to do is basically create a document all about your business in 2019. And you want to start off. I like to start mine off, you know, with kind of a monologue of how things went. Okay, this is the narrative and here's the framework that we're going to discuss. This just. It could be paragraph, could. I'm a little Long winded, if you don't know by now. So mine's a little longer, but usually the first page is kind of, here's what happened, here's what I. Here's what we learned all that stuff, and then jump into talking about, you know, real specific things. Did you make any large purchases, right? Did you buy that piece of equipment? Did you revamp your entire, you know, network or it, you know, system or website, whatever? Yeah, just all kinds of. Anything that had a. A chain, you know, caused a change in, in your business. Did you change, you know, did you get a new general manager, did you get a new cfo? All this kind of stuff, financial changes. And what I like about it is you're creating this document that, number one, it's good for you to step back and look at, you know, how things went. And sometimes you kind of have to pull it out and during the next year and look at. But number two, it also, it gives you a document to hand to someone, maybe like a banker, maybe like an accountant. And your new accountant, he's like, well, look, here's, here's our, here's last year. Here's how things went. And they can, they can get a better picture of your business with this executive summary. And maybe you've been doing it for the last five years. So you can give them like a whole little booklet, if you will, or email them a PDF and they can kind of look at the. Your strategy, how things worked, how things didn't work. And this could be a one pager. I mean, it's certainly up to you what you do. It can be very dry. You don't need a monologue. If you don't, you could just have boom, boom, boom. And then. And one of the other things it does, if you're an LLC or C Corp, S Corp, whatever, it creates your annual minutes, which are very important. If you ever get sued and you want to show that you really are separate and you're not dipping your personal stuff into your corporate accounts, those minutes are very important that sets that tone, that, yes, we are a separate entity and that kind of stuff.
Have you had to deal with that before? That's an interesting thing.
I have.
And those minutes don't need to be on file ahead of time, that you just need to have them. Okay.
I have had to go back and create them.
Well, that was, that was sort of. My question is. Yeah, yeah, okay, got it.
And during, you know, when we had a lawsuit, you know, I don't know, long, long time ago, 15 years ago, and my turn is like, oh, make sure you bring me all your corporate minutes. And I said, what?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, of course, of course. And he said, well, you have all those. I know you do. Here's a template that you could use to do the most current one. I know maybe you haven't done that one. I said, oh, of course. So, yeah, you have to struggle and it's harder to go back, you know, and look through everything. So if you do this quick thing, it, it, it's really great. You know, I, I talk about facility information. Oh, we signed a new lease, we moved, we opened a new location, we closed the location.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what opportunities are for the next year. So I wrote a blog post up on at businessshow co about this and we will link it in the show notes so you can go take a look. And there's a template up there that I, you know, just very simple, basic stuff and it works out really well. And one of the best things about it that works for me is I really like to go back to them and compare previous years. You know, it's like a journal. It's like that Facebook things that pops up, look at your memories or whatever. If you use Time Hop as another app that does that for you with your photos, this is kind of what's going on with your business. And you can go back and look, oh, did that new thing we wanted to do, how'd that work out for us? You know, you can see the changes. Oh, it was a disaster. Oh, it was a great success. But you have this timeline that you're creating that is really good to look back on. I love it. And I also, you know, we talk about creating a success list for your personal success at the end of every year. This is kind of where you can tease those things out or you can put them on your failure resume.
Right.
If you, oh, we bought this company and everything went to hell and it turned out to be not very good, that can go. But you could talk about what you learned from that. So that narrative is really powerful, especially when you're trying to meet somebody that maybe is going to be an investor or you're going to get a line of credit, when they see that you had the foresight to create this thing, it's impressive.
That makes sense. Yeah, right.
And if you have, I show them the first year and they go, oh, this is so cool, and I go, well, I can give it to you, like for the last 10 years, if you'd like to see it and more times Than not. They're like, yeah, send that to me. Because I can kind of see the story arc, if you will, of your company.
Yeah. That trajectory matters in those scenarios. Yeah. You might even share it with a. If you're hiring someone at a higher level in your organization, you're trying to attract them. That can be a thing where. Or could be, you know. Yeah.
It tells your story. And what it does is it gives you the opportunity to create the narrative narrative. Because some people, all they want to do is dig into your P L and balance sheet and I would really.
They're writing the story.
Yes, yes. Because they're going to pick out whatever serves them the most right. But if you frame it and sometimes I'll even include the P L and sections of it or the balance sheet.
Sure.
Oh, here's, here's what happened here. Here's how we lost all that equity or we, we took a, you know, quarter million dollar write off this year because of X, you know, or this kind of thing because you can explain it because like I can recall trying to go get, you know, a new line of credit, save some money with a new bank and we'd had a terrible year. But they were very specific reasons and some of the planning that went involved and I could almost, you kind of hear a sigh of relief when they read this and go, oh, oh, this wasn't just something out of the blue where you lost a bunch of money. It's like, right, right, right. We knew we were going to dive deep and spend on this project and we wouldn't realize profits for, you know, eight months or whatever it was. So it works out great. So go check out that, that link in the show notes if you'd like to take a look at it. If you have any questions about how to do it, I like to create a draft and leave, leave it kind of open for a few weeks towards the end of the year because then I come back in and revisit it and let me know what you think. Send your comments questions to feedbackusinessshow.co. love to hear from you.
That's Feedbackusshow.co I believe is the way to address there. Yeah.
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And we would, we would love that.
Yeah, those. Those, they make a huge difference for us. I know we ask for it all the time, and it's because it matters, but what else you can. Can do is just tell somebody about the show. Pick one person and just tell them, I like this show. You should listen. Or I think you might like to listen. You don't want to. Maybe. If you don't like to say should, that's fine. But, you know, recommend it to one person. You don't have to post it on Facebook if you don't want or anything like that, but just find one person and say, hey, check this show out. I think you might like it.
And I mean, I listened to Oprah Winfrey podcast, and even she asks for reviews on her show. So if a billionaire can do it, I'm confident now that we should be doing it more.
That's it. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah.
So we love it. That'd be great.
Yeah.
Thanks, everybody.
Thanks so much, everybody. We will. We'll see you next week. And keep living that charmed life, would you?