CEO + COO Alignment = Scale. Here’s the Playbook. | eCatholic (Podcast 492)

I think I listened to your first podcast ever. It was July of 22 and there was a guy by the name of Sean, I can't remember his last name. He interviewed you on being a coo. You talked about the eight types of a COO there and it reached out and touched me. But we were Josh and I were at this interesting intersection where we were struggling to understand who who did what. Was he the visionary and I was the integrator. Is that out of that you you talked about building your vision. So we use that as a rallying cry. Josh and I did for him to go away and paint what his vision was for the company and put it down on paper and present that. And it was amazing once he did that how it freed our relationship up in that visionary integrator way for him to say I have now communicated what I want to be done. You as the integrator can go do it and I'm giving you my trust in that.