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All right, what is going on, everyone? Casey Adams here. Welcome back to the Rise of the Young podcast. Today I'm here with Alex Adelman, the founder of Lolli. Thanks so much for coming on the show.

Thanks for having me.

So we got connected quite recently on Clubhouse, and then I started looking into everything that you've built and everything that you're doing with Lolli. And, dude, I was just fascinated by the concept of what you've built with your team. But for people that may not know what Lolli is, I'd love for you to give them a 10,000 foot view before we dive into it.

Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, we've created the easiest way for people to get into bitcoin. We've created a bitcoin rewards company. So all you have to do is shop as you normally would at over a thousand different merchants, and we give you bitcoin when you shop with those merchants. So, yeah, we keep it really simple. We try to make it as easy as possible to get into what we believe is the future reserve asset of the entire world. And we think that it's not accessible to everybody. So we're trying to remove that barrier to entry and just give bitcoin to the whole world.

I love it. And I actually, I had Tyler Winklevoss on my podcast recently, and that whole interview went sort of viral. Right. Because I had him on in December and now it's. We sort of caught it with the rally of bitcoin. But nowadays everyone's talking about bitcoin. I've known about Bitcoin since 2017, and I've always found just the whole industry so fascinating. When did you find out about bitcoin and when was the idea for Lolli created?

Yeah, so, I mean, I think a lot of people kind of are like a culmination of their life experiences. Right. So, short answer. Learned about Bitcoin in 2013, I think that was sort of like one of the first waves of the mainstream kind of coming in. But it actually, when I talked to friends that have stumbled upon it and for different reasons, it hit me in a very different way. I think in 2013 because of what I was building at the time and what my life's mission at the time and still is today. So what we were creating with our last company, which we started in 2011, was this e Commerce gateway. Our whole goal was to democratize commerce. How do we give everyone in the world the ability to buy and sell anywhere? And that may not seem like that foreign to date, really, at 10 years later, but back then, you couldn't just go buy anything anywhere. Even commerce was really clunky. You'd have a clunky PayPal button at the end. That was the easiest way you could actually buy things. And so we wanted to break open the entire Internet and just have the ability to see something wherever you were and buy it. And so I had deep experience in the payments world. I had been building in payments since I was about 16 and kicked off all these different banks, kicked off PayPal for moving money all over the world. And so I always had this frustration from a very young age and being a kid of the Internet where. Where I couldn't move money all over the world to people that I knew and trusted. So in the back of my head, it always sort of like I was like, why is money so broken? And why does the Internet not have a native money? And so fast forward a little bit. We're building this company where I'm like, on this mission, and then I hear about Bitcoin, and it just immediately makes sense to me. I'm like, this is everything that I had been building, but it was native to a currency. And. And then, yeah, it hit me really hard. We'll say that.

Yeah, that's incredible, man. And your last company, Cosmic, how did that journey begin when it comes to starting your first company, now that you guys had an exit back in 2015 and then again in 2017, where did cosmic start? And what led you up to starting your first company?

Great question. And I think we have probably a great audience of people who are, you know, future entrepreneurs or current entrepreneurs, just given I know your friends and following and everything like that. So, yeah, I mean, I've been building software and games since I was about 12. My parents got a computer for the family, and I went from, like, playing games to, like, downloading game maker and these like different studios and basically almost kind of like like tricked myself into like learning programming at a very young age. And now there's like so many tools out there for kids to like learn programming. But back then basically I was like, I don't want to just play the games, I want to actually build them. Way more fun to build. So yeah, that's how I got my start. And then fast forward a little bit, I was like, I can make way more money making like platforms and websites and back end systems for people. So I ended up getting blue, building bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where like my programming skills could not keep up. So then I started hiring people from Ukraine and Bangladesh and India all over the world. And so then I became more of like a designer product person and business person because I would be negotiating these deals and I just realized I could make way more money by doing like the business side of things. And I just had way more fun on the design and product side. So did that throughout college while studying economics. Economics was incredible thing to study for me. One I didn't get into the, you know, my undergrad business school of all things. And so it sort of, I sort of just like wound up taking these econ classes because I really wasn't that sure what I wanted to learn. But economics really set me up to understand how the world works and how the basis of like money works, how financial systems, how monetary policy works, so that I knew what to question. So then I got to this point where in my education where I was learning about micro finance initiatives and everything the Grameen Bank Muhammad Yunus was doing in Bangladesh to democratize commerce and access to technology. One of the studies that really impacted me was he did this study where he gave the poorest woman in every village in Bangladesh a cell phone. And the trickle up economics that occurred from this micro finance initiative was absolutely incredible. And these women would have these cell phones and people would flock to them and do business with them. And there was a trickle up economic effect where the lowest common denominator of the most poverty stricken individuals could then bring up their communities from the very bottom. I think the study is actually still ongoing, but it was pretty conclusive that it was like that is net good for the world. And when you can give people access to something that, that they don't have, it's pretty much net good for everybody. And we can open up those channels through something like a cell phone or through something like the Internet. That's a good thing. And that connection between people is net good. For the world. So if you had any doubts about the Internet or how good it was for the world, or how amazing it could be for connecting disparate groups of people with these almost like fake borders around us, that was sort of the thing that really resonated with me. So fast forward a little bit. I was, I had experience and very little experience in economics and a lot of experience in building technology. And so I was like, okay, what do I want to bring to the world? What do I want to do to leave my mark on the world? And so I just kept coming back to this idea of why can't I buy and sell everywhere? Why are there so many middlemen? Why are there so many barriers? Why? Like, why? So I just like ran out like a madman after this idea. I went through like five CTOs, chief technology officers to actually, like, find someone who could actually build this thing. I went out to Las Vegas on a flight that I could barely afford. I had like an iPad that I later returned to Apple just like in total bootstrapping mode to kind of make this company work. And lots of stories about, like, the creation of it. But fast forward a little bit. We ended up getting a ton of the biggest merchants in the world on the platform, created a real business, started making a good amount of money, and then everybody started talking about the buy button. Everyone was like, the buy button is going to be everywhere and this is the company that was leading it. And so then we started to get acquisition offers, acquisition interest, and we ended up going with our, our biggest customer, which was Popsugar to come in and power 1.2 billion in retail revenue running through the shop style platform. And yeah, that was our first acquisition.

That's incredible, man. How long was that process from starting bootstrap mode to acquisition?

About five years.

Okay.

And I think a good lesson, I think for everybody is it was that whole journey is five years doesn't seem like a lot, right? Um, but it was totally backloaded. Like the first three or four years when I really, if I'm being perfectly honest with myself, nothing happened. Like there was like little wins every six months and like things that kept us going or I would like, you know, figure out some sort of deal to like keep us alive or something. But it was like an absolute, like, you know, mess and really, really difficult company to build. And then it was all about like sticking it out and like basically being alive long enough for the world to realize what you were building was the inevitable future to the point where they assigned value to that future. And Then we got acquired.

Dude, that's amazing. When you got acquired, what was that feeling? Like, what did it teach you? And like from that moment, where was your head at? Like, what were you ambitious to start the next project right then and there? Did you sort of take a step back and reevaluate like what you want to do with your life? Because I think a lot of entrepreneurs, right, like they want to get to that point and they want to see what that feels like and everyone has a different experience with that. So for you, like, what does the exit mean to you and what were you looking forward to from that point on?

It's a good question. I'm way more mission driven and like than I am. Like, yes, I want to make all the money in the world and I want to because I know that with that money I can do good. I can build something bigger and bigger and bigger. You look at people like Elon Musk who didn't build PayPal, he wouldn't be building Tesla and SpaceX. I am in no disillusionment that having more money, you can build more, you can have more fun and make a bigger impact. So I would think if I go back to that moment, yes, it was awesome. It was like, you know, very validating. I remember being very excited about the acquisition because of how much we could build and grow within. We had like a three year earn out. So in no way was it like, you know, here's all our technology and leave. It's like we had some really big goals and we actually grew about 10x post acquisition. So we got acquired and we like there was this moment where I was like, okay, like I need like a week to chill. I've been grinding for like, you know, 100 hour weeks for like, you know, four or five years at that point. And so it was, I mean it was, it was hard. But then we got like remotivated right back into it grew about 10x and then we got acquired again by a bigger company which, you know, full circle, biggest cash back company in the US Many parts of the world. Rakuten, they came along and saw the work that we were doing with Popsugar and we're like, hey, we want that. So we got acquired again and by a bigger company, Rakuten. And Rakuten really like, I mean I learned so much there from like Rakuten proper with you know, the Japanese headquartered offices. You know, we worked with the corp dev team there and then also, you know, Ebates at the time, which was the US entity and Learned all about cash back and rewards and everything from inside the biggest, you know, cash back company in the US which, you know, in hindsight, if that had never happened, if we had, if we hadn't hustled, if we, if we sort of just said, okay, like we're just gonna like, you know, just kind of go with the flow. In this first acquisition, we most likely would not have been acquired by the next company or would have just, you know, folded into the, you know, popsugar or something like that. But it's sort of a good lesson of just like, you know, do what you feel and keep going and do what you're actually like, you know, set out to do. And so, yeah, we just didn't stop, you know. And then at Rakuten, you know, we worked just as hard. We were a little misaligned. I think the CEO that bought us left. They had different directives, basically didn't work out as well as the first one did. But they have our technology, they fast forward our earn out. They were amazing and no hard feelings or anything. But it was actually a blessing in disguise because a year after we parted ways and then I was like, okay, the best advice that I was given was take actual time off. This, like, really take time off. And you will be amazed with what your brain does. So I'm the kind of person who like, can't take, you know, vacation, can't take time off. I need like, I need constant, like they constantly be like doing something, building something. It's just like my personality, it's what makes me like actually happy. So I took some time off, you know, did the whole thing, traveled the world, went to Japan, like, you know, just made art and got back to a lot of my like, root of creation. Like, you know, moments that also make me very happy. Like different types of building different types of creation and really just kind of like reset my brain in a big way. But the thing that I kept coming back to was like I had got, you know, I'd gotten into Bitcoin 2013, right?

Yeah.

And a lot of people don't know this, but I actually tried to actually turn Cosmic into a bitcoin company because I was like, oh my God, this is the inevitable future. I took it to every one of our merchants and I was like, hey guys, why aren't you using bitcoin? This is like the most incredible technology in the world since I've seen since the Internet. Why are you using it? And every single one of them was like, the timing's not right. Now we can't accept it. We wouldn't even know what to do with it. We'd have to go set up a whole treasury department. And then on the other side, the consumers didn't actually even want to spend it. So it was like my first foray in seeing, like, where bitcoin was going to be adopted and. And where it wasn't. And then so we kind of go back where I'm at Rakuten, and I'm like, oh, my God. Rakuten would be the most incredible way to distribute bitcoin to people. And I told them this and they were like, no, it's too forward. Like, we can't do that right now. We have a bunch of other stuff we gotta do. So I was like, okay, this is clearly not gonna be a fit to build internally.

Yeah.

So parted ways ended up just coming back to this idea of like, this is. This is everything that I've wanted to do for the last 10 years. And let's go build the biggest bitcoin back company in the world as a way to distribute bitcoin to people through the exact same model as cash back, which we know better than anybody in the world. So, yeah, basically got the dream team back together, called up all my old team members.

Really?

Yeah. And then everyone's like, let's go. So we started building. And yet the last three years have been unbelievable.

That's incredible.

Most fun I've ever had building. Unlike the last company, way less of like, you know, banging your head up against a wall, hoping it turns into, like a door. This one, this one has been like, like, way more just like product market fit very early on. People want this thing. I mean, people want free bitcoin, right? It's two magic words in the English language and really every language right now, like free bitcoin. Who does not want free bitcoin?

I love it. Have you guys seen just even the past three months, significant growth with this rally of bitcoin going from 20,000 to 50,000? Because I'm sure a bitcoin focused company is just getting way more eyeballs. But can you talk about that? What does the last couple of months look like for you guys at loli?

Absolutely, yeah. The last few months have been crazy. I think we've grown more of the last three months than we have over the last, like, prior two and a half years, I would say. It's so we're just seeing. Incredible, man.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much. It's a whole team effort too. Yeah. So we. We are growing like, crazy right now. And locked largely, you know, it's because, you know, people want bitcoin now more than ever. They're like, it's not a fad right now. The, like, very few people actually saw the run up in like, 2013, 2014. A lot of people saw that run up in 2017. But it takes multiple impressions for someone to actually, like, do something, right? Whether that's clicking an ad, whether that's like, you know, going to a restaurant. Like, you have to kind of hear something a few times to actually know what it is, especially when you're dealing with money. Yeah. So 2017, everybody in the world, almost everyone in the world hears about it and it's like, okay, this is something you. Most people chose not to adopted at that point, largely because it was like, still really hard this time. Everyone's like, oh, my God, I need some bitcoin. And I just need. I need to find it. And most people, even though, like, we, like, we love Rob, you know, things like Robinhood and Public and these, like, investing apps, most people are not investors. And even more so, most people are not day traders. So the daily interactions that you'd have with bitcoin are actually very few and far between. So now they're looking at it and they're like, okay, I shop every day. I'm swiping my card. I'm like, you know, shopping online, going to ebay, I'm going shopping on Postmates or ordering on Postmates. Like, lollies. Just makes so much sense to so many people. Yeah. It's like, I'm gonna shop for these things anyway. Why not shop at lolli merchants? Opposed to like, non lolli merchants earn bitcoin while I'm doing something that I was already gonna do.

I love that. It's so cool because, like, everyone's making these transactions and spending money, and if people get bitcoin and they don't want to personally invest, they have this alternative which allows them to earn Bitcoin. As you're saying, it's so genius, man. And when you guys had this idea, was anyone else doing this or is anyone else doing this at the time when you started it?

No, no, we were the first. So it's. I mean, when you. When you look at our story, it makes perfect sense, right?

Yeah. Yeah. This is the team and you get it.

Yeah, yeah. But in hindsight, like, I remember saying, like, one of my favorite things is telling someone about Lolly for the first time. And. And you can see, I can see it in their eyes. It's like they're like, oh my God. It's one of those ideas where it's like, I wish I thought of that. Which is a great, you know.

Absolutely.

And it could because it also means like, what. As soon as it, like I can say exactly what lolli is in one sentence and everybody gets it. And those are the best ideas and the best products. Because, like, our growth rate is largely organic, right? Like 55% of our growth is organic over the, over the historic three years, even in a, you know, even in a bear market. So. Which basically means people are talking about lolli and we can't even track it. Right. And it's like a good problem to have and a bad problem to have. People are saying, hey, there's this app that gives you free bitcoin. Hey, there's this extension that gives you free bitcoin. And then they're talking about it. And the more and more bitcoin becomes pervasive throughout society. It's like we always want to be that top of funnel app that everybody uses to get into bitcoin. And then we go downstream into way more things that get people the ability to have access to more bitcoin. So, you know, you could imagine, you know, giving people the ability to earn interest on their bitcoin, giving people the ability to buy and sell bitcoin, giving people in the future the ability to actually pay with stablecoins and earn bitcoin, or pay with bitcoin and earn bitcoin. So all these sort of these products in this path to this inevitable hyper bitcoinization future that we all want to live in.

Yeah, very cool. How has the growth looked like internally when it comes to team? I know that you said you brought on your team from Cosmic, your prior company, and you had this dream team together again. What does it look like when it comes to adding additional team members and growing the internal team? And what do you define as lollies? Culture and just internal structure as a founder?

Yeah, great, great question, Casey. Yeah, so I started this company with my, with my old co founder Matt of my last company. And we looked and talked very seriously in like day one about the type of company that we wanted to build and, and all the things we did right and all the things we did wrong with Cosmic. And like, you know, there's, there's. When you look back at like building anything there, I mean, you can be hindsight's 2020 and you can say, you know, yes, at the end of the day, we had a win. But we also wanted to go way bigger. We wanted to build, you know, something that was. I didn't want to build something that I had to, you know, sell or wanted to sell. I wanted to build something that, you know, could be, you know, last for generations.

And.

And that's very difficult in technology. That's the holy grail, right? Like, to build like a Microsoft or a Apple or like, you know, something along, like something that's going to last forever is sort of the battle that I think a lot of people who build in tech struggle with is that it's a very ephemeral space. You build something and then six months later, you're replacing your own technology with better technology. So it's when we looked at that, we're like, okay, we're really good at building things, right? I think we have one of the best architectural minds and product minds as part of our core team. The thing that we looked at that we were absolutely. That we did not do wrong, that we loved was, when we look back, is the people were amazing. Everybody around us went into work, worked insanely hard, was, like, so smart, supported each other, even though we went through some really dark times and we celebrated together and we had some really good times. So I think when you realize that everything you built is in some other person's database that you have no access to, you have no impact on the thing that you spent at that point, seven years building.

Wow.

You sort of realize the things that are important with building anything, which is the people around you that are building it. So that was like a very core component, was like, we want very similar people. And other founders that have built, like, multibillion dollar companies have always told me this of like, the core team will hire people, similar people to everybody around you. So when you start with the right team, you will continue to build out. It's just a natural progression. Like, people want to hire people that are similar to themselves in personality, intelligence, in ethics and everything. And so with this company, my biggest fear is not having or like, having that core team and then diverging from, you know, what we were hiring for. So, yeah, to answer your question, we've kept with a very similar culture. The culture is very similar. It's honestly, it's exactly what you would think it is. Like, a lot of people that know me, like, really, really well. And no, Lolly is. They say that, like, lolly is the perfect company for me because it fits my personality. Like, I love. I'm a very generous friend. I love giving people things I love, you know, Helping people. And Lolli is literally, it's like a business model that makes money, but you're also helping people earn money, get money. And so the team is very similar to the ethos of Lolli. We are extremely hardworking, but we also are very generous and we like, care deeply about bitcoin education. We are extremely ethical group of people, high moral character and you have to be when you're dealing with people's money. And then also, like, I mean, we hired brilliant engineers because like our background, a lot of people don't realize this, but our last company was like a PCI Level 1 compliant Enterprise SLA 99.9 to the nth degree. You know, technology. Like, it was not, it was, it's not, it was not some like fun, cute consumer app. But like, Lolli sort of is this, like, it's this beast. It's like, it's kind of like a iceberg type thing where it's like, you see, oh, good, like lollies, kind of like this, like, you see, like tip of the iceberg. And it's like, you see this like fun, cool little app, but in the background we're dealing with a lot of bitcoin and like extreme, like financial system that is very complex. So we have incredible engineers. We follow all the standard practices of custody solutions for people's bitcoin. But in the front end, it's fine, it's lighthearted and everything. That's kind of company we built and the kind of team we've built as well.

I love that. What is your personal thoughts on, for example, a company like Tesla buying $1.5 billion in Bitcoin? Is this something that you, you think more companies will continue to do? Is Lolli looking at this from a, hey, does the company personally own bitcoin? Because I'm just curious, like, you being in the space, how do you see that moving forward with other companies?

Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's the inevitable future. I think there's clearly like, probably people who would disagree with me, but we've been holding bitcoin on our balance sheet forever. Right? Like, we, like, we believe in it. We can't own as much as Tesla, unfortunately, but yeah, I mean, relative proportion to our, what we're holding. Yeah, I mean, it's a, you know, we believe in bitcoin, so we are going to take that belief and, you know, put our money where our mouth is and hold bitcoin on our balance sheet. And we've been, you know, successful in that. So we're not going to do anything, you know, that would put the company at risk of, you know, insolvency. At the end of the day, you know, my job as CEO, there's a million jobs. But like at the end of the day we can't run out of money. That's like every good CEO will say is like, never run out of cash, never run out of money. And so yeah, we do keep bitcoin on our balance sheet, same as Tesla, same as Square. But I think more and more companies are going to do it. I think one, Michael Saylor is a good example, like MicroStrategy. He set out and did this whole conference which I encourage everybody to listen to and everybody to watch. One of the most bullish pieces of media on the Internet right now for bitcoin. He goes to all these Fortune 500 CFOs, CEOs and he tells them, he's like, look, this is the inevitable future. You can hedge your risk by holding bitcoin. Most of these companies are sitting on absurd amounts of cash and they're not doing anything with it. And meanwhile the inflation rate is spiking. We've got the Fed printing trillions and trillions of dollars. So like what's the smart thing to do? Hold a non inflationary currency, an asset that like everybody has access to. And like this is the inevitable future. So I think more and more companies are going to do it. Michael Saylor was clearly like the biggest and biggest whale to do it. But I mean my friends who run bitcoin companies have been doing it for a long time and we've been doing it for a long time as well. And once, once you understand bitcoin, once you believe in bitcoin, it's really tough to see the world any other way. It's a, like I try to be so dogmatic but it's like, I mean there's only 21 million Bitcoin and there is a network effect across the entire world. And if you believe in the Internet, you know, you believe in bitcoin, right? Like the, you need like bitcoin is the only asset that connects 4 billion people with an Internet connection. There's no other asset that does that, like literally zero. So like you, you pick like what currency is that connects everybody through commerce. Because there has to be something.

Yeah, no, I love that and I appreciate the thorough breakdown as well for everyone that's, that's listening that might have just ran across bitcoin recently, but going back to Lolli with everything happening, work from Home. I know that you're based in Charlotte. What does that look like internally with your team? How have you guys adjusted to this transition and what have you learned?

Yeah, so we. I've been. I've been in New York for the last seven years building my last company, and now this company. We, you know, when Covid hit, I was, you know, half my team's in North Carolina, half my team's in New York. I couldn't do what I was normally doing, which is going to merchants and bringing them on board, and most of those merchants are in New York, SF, LA. And so New York was like an incredible place to hop around and really create, be like a hub. But I was already spending a lot of time in North Carolina because I'm pretty much still the de facto head of product. So I was coming down to North Carolina quite a bit. Covid hit and I was like, okay, not much I can do in New York, so makes the most sense to come down to North Carolina. With our last company, we were actually very distributed. So I, you know, we're used to communicating remotely and it's not really, like, foreign to our team. So came down for like, one more product summit. We got everybody on the same page and we've gone like, you know, pretty much full remote ever since. So I'll be in North Carolina indefinitely. I love North Carolina. I love building here. It's my hometown.

Love it.

Our last company here built this company here, kind of feel like, you know, hometown hero. And yeah, I love, I love building here. There's so much engineering talent. There's so much awesome support talent. I miss New York and miss going to, like, restaurants, but New York is not the same right now. And my dream would be to split time between North Carolina and New York once Covid's over. But, yeah, our team operates really well.

Remote.

I think the biggest thing and biggest advice I would give to anybody who's gone remote is like, you have to get really good and very creative with communication and over communicate everything. But if you're being honest, you have to do that anyway in most companies or you fail.

Regardless, I love it. Well, last question out before we wrap up. And that is just what are you most looking forward to moving into the future? And what should everyone listening do to stay connected with you and your team and to learn more about lolli?

I'm really pumped for this mobile app. We've been at Chrome extension for last three years and had a lot of success there, and now we're clearly breaking into mobile. So, yeah, Everyone download the mobile app. You can earn bitcoin every day. Hit that loot box on the daily stacks. You can follow us on Twitter. I think our Twitter is actually the best way to keep updated on all the fun things going on. We share all the bitcoin memes, a lot of bitcoin education, a lot of product drops. We give away free bitcoin. It's no brainer to follow it at this point. Yeah, download lolli and just like, have some fun. Get into bitcoin and do your own research. Books I would recommend, I always recommend start with the bitcoin white paper. The original white paper. A lot of people don't realize this, but it's like only eight pages. You can easily read it. It's not like, I think some people get scared because they're like, oh, my God, it sounds so difficult. Very easy read. You could read 30 minutes or less. Then the next thing I would recommend is reading the bitcoin standard. A lot of people did not study economics, and even if you did, you probably learned a very small portion of economics. But the bitcoin standard is a really great book. It teaches people about the future of money or really the history of money. The future of money. And then it opens up this discussion about what should the future of money look like in a perfect world. So I think a lot of people don't understand money. All they think is like, my $1 is $1. I go buy a pack of M&Ms. Or something with a dollar. Everyone just sort of has this idea of what a dollar is worth, and they don't really think about what's behind that dollar. So I think that it's a very important book for the history of future, for people to understand their money and then for them to make an educated decision about the money that is valuable to them. And then, I mean, look, most times what happens is I'll send people the book. People read the book, they come back and they're like, oh, my God, I get it. Like, where do I get bitcoin? Where do I buy bitcoin? All this stuff.

Yep, I love it. Well, Alex, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I really appreciate it and everyone listening. I'll make sure to link down everything below that you mentioned so that they can go check it out.

We'll make you a custom ref link for the followers and everything.

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