Episode 076: Lindsey Pelas - From Small Town Louisiana To LA Supermodel

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What'S going on, everyone? Casey Adams here. Welcome to the Rise of the Young podcast. Today on episode 77. We have a special guest with us here today, Mrs. Lindsay Palos. Super stoked to have you on the show. I appreciate you coming out.

Yeah, thank you for having me. I'm super excited.

Totally. So, I mean, first thing, I want to start off just for everyone listening, you've literally, what I like to say, built an empire, Right? You have, what, how many followers total across social media? I know. You have like 8 million on Instagram. What's like the total reach? Just so people understand, like, the empire you've built from a social standpoint.

Oh, my God, I have no idea. It's like it's 600,000 or so on Twitter.

Yep.

Like a million and a half on Facebook. There's almost 8 million on Instagram. What are the other ones? Snapchat used to be big.

It was almost like, did that die on you or how did that go?

I'm so over Snapchat.

We're broken. Okay.

Yeah.

Well, cool. Well, everyone listening, I just want you to take the moment. Obviously, I'm pretty sure everyone listening knows who you are, if they don't already. But Lindsay is someone who I'm stoked to have on the show. She grew up in Louisiana. We're in LA right now filming this, recording this, but this is not where she started. And that's sort of what I want to get into today because obviously, I think with social media, it's like you see what people are doing and you're building this brand, but it's like, what happened before? What was the life before this social media, just empire that you've built. So I would say, like, when it comes to the first question of the show, it's just like, grew up in Louisiana. What was your life from, like, born to, like, seven years old?

Oh, my gosh, what a big question. Okay. Louisiana is a lot different than Los Angeles, that's for sure. Very country. My parents were both born into impoverished families, basically. My mom was like, country redneck type Louisiana, and my dad was swamp people type. So that's their background. And they both met, they became paramedics. Now they're nurses. But they met and they had me. They divorced. I lived kind of all over Louisiana, like a mutt, like. So I lived in, you know, near New Orleans. I graduated from Baton Rouge. But I call my hometown a place called Laranger, L.A. la Ronger. It's such an ugly name and nothing rhymes with it because it has the word orange in it, which was devastating when it came to purple prom and homecomings and shit. But, yeah, I grew up there. And that's a dairy farm town in the middle of Louisiana. So it's very country. There were no red lights, no McDonald's, no Walmart nearby. Yeah, you had to drive like 30 minutes for that. It's very country. It's like gravel roads, you know, and roads named after people's last names. Just a very different American experience. And then so I went to college. I worked at Hooters, obviously, I got a scholarship to go to lsu. So I went to LSU on an academic scholarship, and I ended up getting a history degree while working a lot of jobs. And once I graduated and I was around 23, I looked around and I realized Louisiana wasn't going to be the end of my story. And a lot of people like to live in their hometowns and be there forever. And for me, it was a death sentence. And I just thought, my husband's not here, my career's not here. Yeah, the energy was gone. I'm like, I gotta go. And so I came to la.

That's wild.

Yeah.

I'm curious, like, when you speak of Louisiana, me coming from a small town in Virginia, it's like, that's all I know, right? So it's like, looking back, like, living in Louisiana, like, how did that sort of, I would say, form you as a person when it comes to the way you think, the way you see the world? What was that whole world view coming from Louisiana? Obviously now you just said you're about to be in LA for four years, but what was that sort of, I would say, like, growing up, what were some of the things you were doing when you were middle school, high school? What was just like, the mentality in Louisiana.

I think it's really special coming from Louisiana because it's a very conservative place. It's very much the opposite of la. Yeah. And I ended up studying history in college. So I was in a place that could be very backwards, a state that is very backwards in a lot of ways. And I was studying race and politics while I was doing that. And I took a class on poverty and I also studied 20th century genocide. So I was getting this crazy understanding of how the world works and even the shitty ways it can work while I'm living in the products of that. So it was when I came to la. It's just, it's interesting to have the view. I can relate to a lot of America because I've lived it. I understand what it's like to grow up and go to a bonfire on a Friday night and. And drink Bud Light. Yeah. And like, we need to make that louder.

Okay, good.

And then like, you know, I worked a minimum wage job. My mom made me work at a grocery store to learn the value of money. So. And not for a week. I did it for two years.

Oh my Lord.

And that's not fun.

Okay.

And you know, so. And I grew up without. I didn't know designers and material things. And I think that that's helped me a lot in Los Angeles because it's. People are victim to materialism here. And so I just, I don't care for that. I don't crave that. So I don't know. The Louisiana experience.

Yeah, super cool. So something stuck out to me. So like when it comes to, just like you said, your parents made you work in a job for two years. Yeah. When it comes to just like I would say the value of money, just working, growing up in Louisiana, like what was your first job when it comes to even high school? Going to college? What was your plan? I guess I could say because obviously like now with this whole social media scene, it's like unpaved road. Right. It's like there's no proven method, especially when you've probably first got started. So like, what was your mindset like going into college? Did you have like goals set for what you want to do, where you want to go, where you wanted to move, or how did this whole career now like get started in the sense of like your plan moving forward?

Gosh. Okay, so high school. The thing is, if I wanted to move out of my parents house, I had to pay for it. So it was very simple. And I knew immediately that I wanted to work at Hooters because it was fun. Like, as a kid, I grew up wanting to work there. It's the hot girl job. And I just. It was fun, and I really wanted to work there. So, of course, the minute I turned 18, I went and got a job there. And originally, my first year in college, I chose a safer school near my hometown. It was Southeastern Louisiana University. It's a smaller school. It seems less intimidating. You don't have to. It's less competitive. Yeah. And I went there, and I was never super into it in college or school itself. I think there just being at that school, it was a smaller school. It just didn't seem. I didn't feel the college experience there. And it's so weird. I just remembered this story the other day on another show, and I can't believe the impact that I forgot. But have you ever heard of this author, Tucker Max?

Tucker Max. What does he wrote?

He wrote I Hope they serve. You're in hell.

I've heard of that.

And they had that movie. He was the guy from Duke. I was a huge fan. And when I was near 19, I went to a book signing, and I had a huge crush on him. And I ended up, like, getting to talk to him. And he told me to go to lsu. He said, you need to do something bigger. You need to get out of that small school. And I actually did the next semester. And I forget all about that, like, how much that was an influence, but it was.

You're 19.

Yeah.

That's tough. So book signing, like you said. I can just tell from this whole conversation so far, it's like you talking about history, you've studied a lot. When it comes to just the educational side of things, what were you super interested in learning? Cause I know that's different for everyone. What was your mentality towards learning and going to a book signing? Because I feel like in this generation, or at least where I'm from, it's like people are doing drugs every day. They don't really care about anyone else besides themselves in a good or bad way. But, like, how did that kind of lead up to even that book signing?

Well, it's weird. In high school, my peers voted me, like, most ambitious. And I remember talking to them, and I thought, what are you. I was like, what are you talking? I didn't believe it. I said, what are you talking about? I thought that because I was popular and I thought I just didn't have a superlative that fit me, so they just gave me that one. But they were like, no, Lindsay, you Always have these, like, crazy ideas, and you've always wanted to do weird stuff, and you don't just want to get married and live here. And I was like, oh, maybe you're right. And so, you know, I really did have big dreams. So when I read that book and became a fan and he had a book signing, I had to go. There's a lot of stuff I've done in my life from there to now that it was just, I have to do it. Like, I have to try, you know, that's crazy.

So you're 19, going to LSU, and I'm curious. For me, it's like growing up, I come from small town, I was doing sports and like, when it comes to my goals, going to high school, college, whatever. I'm not going to college right now. We're about to go to Arizona. But you going to college, did you have, like, a certain career that you were looking towards when it comes to, like, graduating or what was that?

It's so crazy because when I envisioned my life, it got blurry. After school, I never. Because I'm like a vision person and I can kind of see how it goes, but it always blurred out. And I think in my deepest subconscious, like, I really saw myself as a California, like something like this, But I suppressed it because who thinks that that would work? I never thought I'd be pretty enough, cool enough, or have enough money to live here. But so in college, originally I was a mass communications major because I was just going down the list of what you could do, and public relations was under mass Common journalism. And I thought I could be a hot girl, you know, selling someone, you know, I could be a publicist. It's kind of a sexy career. It's very like Sex in the City. But. So originally I was a mass communications major. Took all these history courses for fun, and they were easier to me.

You like history?

I do, I do. I mean, it's easy. I know it and I can do it. Yeah. It's weird though. I know nothing trivial. Like, I couldn't tell you the president in order. I couldn't tell you the year of very important stuff. But I learned I actually took away major themes.

Okay.

So the. The stuff about race and politics, poverty and even the psychology of mass murderers. And I learned a deeper sense of history, I think, than the trivial stuff.

Yeah. Like the purpose, the core things of certain situations, but not factual, like overhead stuff. I get it.

Yeah. Forgot all that.

That's it.

Every time we took a test, it was out the door.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

So question popped in my head. Are you only child? You have brothers, sisters, or how does that look?

I have five sisters and three brothers.

Wow.

Yeah.

I did not know that.

Oh, my God. Yeah. But my parents were, like, divorced a bunch of times, so I've got like halves and steps and add ons extras.

How did that sort of play a role when it comes to just like, you growing up? Was it older, younger, you said, like, were they big influences on you? Or like, how did that kind of look like the family?

It's really weird. I always admired my siblings. I admired my older siblings for sure. One was really fun, one was really smart, one was really cool. But I think when you. When you grow up as a product of divorce and kind of in these households that change, that can change every five years and these very. It's really critical if you think back to childhood and being whipped away from your family and moving to another town and having new grandparents, you know, I think it influenced sense of instability. So it is a reason probably why I could get up and leave Louisiana, because my life has always shifted in major ways really fast from really early.

Okay, that's interesting. So growing up, were you someone that was, like, in Louisiana all the time? Were you traveling with your family? Because I think for me, I wasn't really traveling, at least off the east coast until, like, last year when I was 17. I could actually afford to travel by myself. And that kind of gave me over last year, like, more perspective than I could ever imagine.

Yeah.

How did that look for you when it comes to traveling and, like, life experiences?

Oh, my gosh. There was really. It was really, like, L.A. people go to Disney World and back. Like, that's as far as they'll go.

Is Disney in Louisiana?

Disney World is in Orlando. Have you ever been?

I've never been.

Oh, my God.

Never been. We went to Orlando and like, we went there for like 10 minutes, but we didn't go.

You have to go to Disney World. It's nothing like Disneyland.

That's in Orlando.

Yeah.

Okay. Because we'll be in Miami, so. So maybe I'll have to jet up there and check it out.

A life experience. It's the most amazing.

Even when you're older. I feel like it's like, hell, yeah.

I want to go right now.

We're there. We're there. Oh, my God.

It's so fun. Yeah. So my mom. My mom was actually really tacky. So she loved, like, Disney World and she loved Gulf Shores, which is a beach place in Alabama. But my dad was a bit more thoughtful with our vacations. I had a stepmom who was in the Air Force.

Okay. It was.

Yeah. So my stepmom was a high ranking Air Force official and so she would go on these military conventions around the country and we'd stay at the bases and my dad decided to make vacations out of those. So we would drive to these bases and these conventions and we'd stop at every national park along the way. So I saw everything from the Grand Canyon to like any kind of cavern or cave there were or any state park. I've been to Roswell and D.C. we walked in tennis shoes all around D.C. to every Smithsonian, the Rotunda, the whole. Every work, you know.

Yeah.

And so my dad really, like. I think that's where my love of history came because we had such a passion for it.

Yep.

We were always on these adventures, looking at historical stuff all the time. And my dad loved to quiz us.

Yeah.

So that was just.

That's it. Yeah. So do you think that played a role in like. Because I feel like for me traveling, it's like it's opened up like, oh, I want to go there. Like experience. Do you think that played a role of, like having that ambition or. I think the core question I want to ask is like, where do you think you kind of have got this ambition to move from Louisiana to la? I feel like it's either internal or maybe you have a mentor or someone that is kind of like you can do more than what you think you can. Like, how did that sort of look in your life when it comes to like people sort of pulling you to a bigger vision?

You know what's weird? I really am a girl that works off of her intuition and guts. So there's been so many times where a dream I've had has influenced how I behaved the next day, which influenced meeting someone or doing something that was crucial to how my life turned out.

Everything. Yeah.

It really does connect. So I've always followed my intuition and not denied it. And I actually. But I think you do meet people along the way when you put that out there, that you want a certain thing. Or maybe you don't knock your intuition and you listen to it.

I love that you said that. Intuition. Yeah. Like that's.

I talk about it all major and the world. The world will give you something to help you along the way. They'll give you a guide or they'll give you something. Someone with a suggestion, like Tucker Max to go to lsu. I had a boss and when I worked at a Hooters type restaurant when I was leaving Louisiana and I had a boss and we were talking about moving to LA, and he's like, I'm like, I'm 23, I'm a bartender right now. I have this history degree. What am I gonna do? Should I go work in Las Vegas and make a ton of money, like, la, and maybe, like, one person will think I can model and like, I don't know. And he said, you know, which one would you choose if fear wasn't the option? And I said, la, if I could afford it. That one's prettier, you know, I'd rather be in la. And he goes, well, you should go with that one. Okay, so even just as small as that advice, but, you know, you meet these people who are so influential and.

Yeah, you know, that's so cool. So when you're kind of of heard that Vegas or la, you said la, was that just, like, you were mentally committed, like, subconsciously, like, I'm gonna be there no matter what. Like, you just kind of had this intuition or what did that look like?

Yeah, so I had. So this is when Instagram was starting nearly four years ago. And when it was, I was posting a selfie and people would DM me saying, come to la. Let's do a photo shoot. And I'm a girl from Louisiana. Someone wanted to photo shoot with me. It's like, what?

In la?

I was like, I'll do anything. I'll fly on a plane and come meet you in Malibu for a photo shoot. Like, whatever. And so I did. And there was a moment. So this was around a month or two before I left Louisiana, and I was in Malibu and I was shooting on the top of some canyon in Malibu. And I said, I think I have to live here. And the photographer's like, oh, yeah, I hear that all the time. And I was like, no, I think I have to. And I went home and I ended up moving three weeks later. And I had, like, wasted a month of rent, like, something I couldn't get out of. I didn't have a job lined up, but I felt it in my gut. And I even told people, I feel like I have to go now. Like, I really, really, really have to go now. And the way my story played out when I moved here, like, two weeks later, by a stroke of luck, I go to, like, the Playboy Mansion and meet Dan Bilzerian. Completely changes my life and career.

That is insane.

Yeah. Isn't that weird?

So you go to.

And I felt it like, I Mean, I didn't know what, but I felt like I have to go.

Yeah. So when you were in the Malibu, like, going to that photo shoot, was that, like, the first time you went to la or how did that situation.

Like, it was definitely the first time I was in Malibu.

Okay.

Which is.

And that was something where, like, someone was on Instagram. And I want to get into more about, like, how are you using Instagram before you moved to la? Was it more of, like, social friends, just using it to, like, connect people in your hometown? Or was like, did you learn at it as, like, a business or you can build a brand that can be recognized by millions? Like, I'm curious because, like, I feel like a lot of people don't really have that switch of, like, this is a brand, this is a business, and they stay in that little. Let me just connect with my friends. But how are you looking at that, like, previously to having millions of followers?

Oh, my gosh. So before, when Instagram first started, I just love taking pictures of myself, as vain as that is. I have a really cute dog and a really nice body, so. So I just. I've always been a selfie girl, so I was like, oh, yeah, another place to be vain. And so I was really using it for entertainment and enjoyment.

Okay.

And so when people started reaching out to me, that's when I thought, oh, maybe, you know, the modeling thing is an idea. But it really took until I was getting my first paid endorsement to go, oh, this is a business. And that took. That took until the March when I moved here in October. It was that March.

What year was that?

Four years ago, almost. It'll be four in October 2014. I guess so.

Okay.

That sounds about right. I'm screwed up. I guess so. Right? I could have had another degree.

Yeah. Yeah. So you using Instagram, you're, like, still in Louisiana kind of doing the whole selfie stuff? Yeah, like, posting content. When was the switch for you? Of, like, all right, I'm gonna move to LA and start posting pictures, getting the paid endorsements, actually doing this. When was that, like, realization for you? Was it a long process or were you, like, fuck it, like, this can happen now. I'll move out there and make it happen.

It definitely took six months to realize that this is a job. So I moved to LA in October, and I met Dan Bilzerian, like, two weeks after. So Dan Bilzerian is, like, the king of Instagram?

Absolutely.

He had, like, 11 million followers when no one did, it was unheard of.

I was like, 23. Yeah, yeah.

It was unheard of.

Yeah.

And so we met and he goes. He literally sought to make me Internet famous because he really liked using publicity to make Internet fame and he loved watching accounts grow and he liked me. So he was like, I'm just gonna make you Internet famous. And I'm laughing, I'm like, yeah, shut up. You know, but he did. And I ended up getting like a million followers in six weeks at one point.

Six weeks, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Good stuff. Yeah.

And so it was funny. When I moved here, I had a bartending job I found off Craigslist.

Okay.

It's actually a very iconic bar. I didn't know, but side note, like, Bruno Mars had worked there. Skrillex, Ryan Goslar.

What bar is it?

The Avalon.

Yep, we've heard that.

It's like, it's like a famous, like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, staple Bruno Mars birthday.

Yeah. And I like that. I feel like I got their magic.

Yeah, totally.

But so we. I work at the bar and one time Dan calls me for. He invites me to a ski trip and he's like, you know, Lindsey, take off work. Let's go, let's get on the jet, let's go to Colorado. There's this. We're gonna snowmobile, we're gonna do all this stuff. And I'm like, oh, my God, I don't know if I can get off of work at this bar. Sitting job. And the same month I had made $300 posting a picture with protein. And I would make. I would earn a lot of money at this bar, but I had to split my tip. So that's a whole other story. So I would go to this bar and I would really calculate, wow, it took me five minutes to make $300. And now I'm here for six hours to make the same thing. Am I using my time wisely? And so he called me for the ski trip. Yeah. And he called me for the ski trip. And I quit my bartending job that day. Like, yeah. And I called back and asked for it back because I was super scared. And they were like, you need to really figure out what you're doing. And I was like, yeah, you're right. And that's the last job I ever had.

That's insane. Is that like, right when you moved here, that was like, you went to that job and that was like, alright, I'm making money here. But you were still kind of doing the side Instagram thing that you didn't really know what could come from it.

Yeah. We were still doing photo shoot.

That's four years ago. So that's like pre how it's such a, like influencer marketing things now. You were like cutting edge pioneer that whole space.

Yeah, it was weird.

That's crazy. So you go on the trip, quit your job, you have a million followers now. Like, what from your standpoint of like you just moved, moved out here. Like, how was that transition? Because you say like 6 weeks million followers, you're taking jets, you're with the most famous guy, getting all these fans and people that are just following you now. Like, how was that transition for you, like mentally when it comes to like you just moved there, like, how did you change as a person? How are you looking at like you in la? I'm just curious. I feel like not when people have a massive transformation like that within a. Yeah, less than a year or six standpoint.

No, it's very true. It's weird. Weird. I always say the first year in la you're just like, what the, what the hell is going on? Because it really is like such a party lifestyle and you can go out every single night and you'll be around famous people really easily and then you'll have like a famous guy in your DMs. And it's just. And it really, it was, it wasn't, it was a culture shock, but it felt right. Yeah, you know, I was. And Dan is such a crazy character. So seeing all these women and all the extravagance and the luxury in this house, it was bizarre.

Yeah.

But really cool. Yeah, it was really cool.

Wow. So you come out here and like you just meet Dan and then it's like from there it's just like, wow. Like from that standpoint, like, how did that even come to the function? Like you meet him like somewhere at an event. Because I feel like obviously running with people in LA is a lot more common than Louisiana. Right. But like, how did that whole thing go when it comes to like getting into a network? Because I feel like especially for a lot of young listeners, it's like, like even for me, it's like we've met on social media, we met at an event. So it's like the network is so small when you look at it from a force sense, but all these other people that may be listening today, like they're wanting to meet people. And what was your experience four years ago moving to la? Just getting into the right network of Dan and all these other people.

I think that you've gotta, you've gotta definitely you really have to go out. Okay. I know that people don't like to do this. You have to go to a party. You literally have to leave your house and get dressed and maybe be scared. Like, you have to. Not even if you don't know someone. You need to go to a party and get to know someone. It's not a comfortable thing to do. I even tell people this. With relationships, if you're trying to meet a guy, you're not going to do it on your sofa and you need to get dressed and go out. So what I did, I moved to LA and I had maybe three acquaintances here. One of those acquaintances, I texted, I said, hey, I'm here. And she asked me to come out. So immediately I dropped whatever I had and I went out. I tried to get some new friends here.

Totally.

And so we went out and I met an acquaintance and the man was telling me they were going to the Playboy Halloween party the next day. They're like, it's too late to get you a ticket. I wish I would have known you were coming. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, whatever. And the next day I get a text and the guy goes, hey, meet me at the Roosevelt at 9pm I can sneak you in or I can get you in. And I'm like, whatever. Down. So I just, I go buy like lingerie and a pitchfork. And I decided to be the devil because this is really last minute production. And I. And I literally go to the Playboy Mansion with a man who. Or it was a group of people and I didn't know a single name. I didn't know one of their names.

That's crazy.

Yeah, it was weird. And his Dan Bilzerian security comes up to me and asks me to meet him. So it was easy after that.

Okay. But yeah, dang, crazy world. So you just met a stranger and that was, that was within like the time frame of being in LA for that.

Two weeks.

Two weeks?

Yeah, that was October. So I moved on October 6th. And so the Halloween party must have been around the 20 something.

You moved in October? What was like the whole like number of followers on Instagram for people that know when it comes to like, when you moved out here, what was like your mindset on social media? Would you even like thinking about building a brand with millions of followers? Did you already have an audience or how did that work?

I never thought social media would be like a job ever at that point. But I did have a. I shouldn't even get Dan all the credit because I actually did move with maybe 200,000 or 270,000. And that was a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. And it was a whole lot back then. And the reason I would. The only way I even remembered growing it when I worked at the bar, because I had a boss. And every night we check how many people it grew by, and I'd post a selfie, like, just a hot selfie. And we go, oh, my God, it's 20,000. Look, it's 30,000. And we were just laughing.

Yeah, yeah.

And so I really did move people with that much, which is pretty sick.

So you already have good toward demographic people that are following you. That's sick. So you move out here, and I want to kind of take it from the angle of, like, all right, you've been here for four years, Right. Obviously, for people listening, we're talking a lot about the back. I want to kind of catch them up to speed to, like, the current, you know, I mean, I've seen you've been featured in every magazine, gq, all this amazing stuff. You've, like, first form the whole entire thing that you're doing on social media now, it's like, unfathomable when it comes to, like, four years ago, you're moving out here with no plan in mind. Yeah. So it's like I want to kind of, like, put the puzzle pieces together and, like, for the people listening, it's like if you were to catch them up to speed, like, your last year, what's been the most exciting things for you? What's some things that come to mind, that when you think about this, like, over the last year, what's some of the accomplishments or things that you're most proud of being here in la over the last four years.

Oh, my gosh. So the last four years. Well, the first year, like I said, it's you figuring it out.

Yeah.

So the first year, I barely made. I don't think I made any money. And then the second year, I kind of got into it. By the third, I had to focus. And so that being the third year, last year, I created my annual swimsuit calendar. That's by far the most. That's by far my favorite thing I've ever done. It seems silly, but I did it all from scratch. So I flew photographers out to Louisiana. We shot my Dirty south calendar. I came up with the clothes, the location. I funded everything. We drove in a car to each spot, and then I sold the calendars internationally. The first year was really learning about selling a product. It's not very easy and by last year I really had a sense of what to do and I had a good team behind me. So I actually made quite a bit of money and I really, I don't know, the calendar is my favorite thing and especially because it's coming up now and I'm just gonna top the last two. Like, I'm just gonna shut it down and it's gonna be so good.

You do all the creative side of it, like from the office and everything.

Honestly. Because it comes from. I know this is so cheesy, but it comes from within. I'm telling you. Like, because my first theme, it was like dirty south, which is my love of hometown.

View your heart. Yeah.

That was like a dream calendar. And so this next one I'm like, how am I gonna top that? I'm like, oh, I should be like nearly naked. And that's what I named it. And we did a more like edgy high fashion. Not even high fashion, but it's a lot edgier, sophisticated, better looking calendar. And so this year I'm topping that. And there's only.

Is that already dropped or what is that?

No, it should be. I guess I'll probably do a pre sale end of October, early November, leading.

Into the new year.

Yeah. But we're actually about to shoot it. But it's all something I've come up with and it's like ridiculous.

That's like a passion project that you just kind of started. You said last year. Yeah, with that. Was that just something like you're like, alright, this calendar, did you kind of get ideas from other people or was that something you just knew you wanted to do? Like previously I had seen a couple.

Other girls do calendars. So people like Anna Cherie had a calendar and Sarah Underwood, people I really love. And so I'm like, oh, I love how they're doing a calendar. Calendars are lit.

Yeah.

And then. But I. The first year, it had nothing to do with money. I really just wanted people who follow me who wanted one to have one. So I really just, I wanted to make something that they were asking for. And so I did it. And that's all that mattered. All that mattered is that they got it. I don't even think I barely made any money just because of the way I set up the deals and because when it comes to printing and shipping.

Yeah.

And web design and then the prop, it's just, it's so foreign to someone because it's. I'm basically entering the world of online publishing and you can say it's online.

Marketing, everything put together, like. Yeah.

And I'm learning how to do, like, quarterly taxes and weird stuff. But I really love the experience of making a calendar because I learned a side of business and I sold something that's worth a lot of money. And you can't take that off of my resume now.

That is crazy. So with the product side of just selling things, I think that's a lot of people listening. They're selling products online or they do marketing online. And with that transition of someone like you that has an audience and you had a product that you want to sell, what was your, I would say, intention moving forward? Was it to do other products, to create your own fashion line? Like, moving forward, what's some of the things you have in mind when it comes to, like, things you have going on? Just to kind of give people some insights from a creative aspect and what things you're thinking about?

Yeah, of course. Well, my. On my vision board, my main goal in life is to be like an international glamour girl and spokesmodel. So I really, in my goal, my future goals, I really want to do. There's big campaigns I still have on my board and big brands I want to align myself with and get like, these iconic shoots. But also my main goal has never been really merchandising. My goal has always been entertainment. I think I'm much more of a personality. Yeah. And that's just what I like. And I would love if. I love designing, like, lingerie and stuff, but I don't. It's just not me at all.

Yeah.

And so now I actually have segued my audience into a major. Not a major, but I hope it's going to be major. A nice podcast.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yes. I've taken a podcast and my podcast is really about interviewing a lot of people from. From Hollywood and giving the Hollywood experience to everyone else, but also breaking social stigmas. Yeah, yeah. And like getting my opinions out there. So my goal.

Yeah, it gives personality. That's why I do this. Like, you get to actually hear someone for more than a minute, 30 seconds, 15 seconds, Instagram story. It's like. Yeah, even when I listen to your podcast, it's like you get to really know someone when it comes to, like, their. The way they talk, the way they carry conversation. So good. Thanks. Not many females I know that are just doing the podcast. I know there's a couple. But, like, I listen to yours and everyone listen like you. You have to go check out our podcast. I listen to the one with Dan Fletchman. Who's a good friend of mine. And I was like, damn. Like, you know, carry your conversation, get the story out, get key points. And it's phenomenal.

I love Dan. Yeah, it's really fun. And that's my main. My main goal is really to. I want a long career. I don't want to cash out on Instagram. I want to be around for like, 10 years and be on your TV. I want to be annoying you way more than just on your phone.

Totally.

So that's my goal.

What's your thoughts on that? When it comes to this whole social space, it's like this or your page. It's like that's your own media quote, unquote, like TV channel, in a sense. Right. So what's your thoughts from someone that has an audience from, like, being on tv, being on Netflix, being on social media? What's, I would say more valuable to you when it comes to the transition of, like, now? It's like people don't want to be TV stars, they want to be social media stars. Right. So how does that play into your life now when it comes to having this audience? Are you looking, like you said, at a big broad? And I think after you answer that question, I want to get into more of, like, how you sort of position that to brands, because I think that's what a lot of people I think that have audiences. I've met with some cool people, and it's like they don't know how to pitch that or position that or get into the right room with people. And I guess to simplify it with you, when it comes to brands, how are you packaging yourself to reach out to them? Or is it like they just reach out to you now?

Oh, my gosh. We reach out to each other for sure. I get a lot of inquiry straight to me from brands who definitely want to work with me, and then I reach out to some that I definitely want to work with. And I put myself out there a lot. So I ask clothing companies to work with me or, you know, I even. I recently worked with Revolve. And the reason why I think I even came up to Revolve is because I asked them to go to their Coachella party, like, stuff like that. So it is a bit of reaching out and then people reaching in. But you really. You have to always reach out in this world. And I think that my dreams are still. I still really have very classic Hollywood dreams. I still want to be a magazine cover. I still, even though TV may be a dying thing, I still want to be on that, because that's what I've always wanted, and that's just authentically what I want to do.

That's badass.

Yeah.

So with the podcast, I know we were talking before we started what was your sort of, I would say, intent with it, because I think for podcasting, I started really diving into the them six months ago. I started this one when Gary Vee was putting out content like, yo, start a fucking podcast. And then ended up meeting Gary, and we had the podcast interview and all this cool stuff. But I think now it's kind of becoming more trendy to have podcasts sit down with amazing people. So what was your intent with it? Because I think you're one of the people that I know that are in the space that are modeling, doing amazing brand deals, and a girl, a female, and you're just now in this podcast arena and you're gonna dominate it. So what was your intent with it moving forward?

I had a lot of intentions. I really, first of all, I had a lot of requests. So I was on Bert Kreischer's podcast. He's this hilarious comedian. I did Jimmy McCarthy's, and anytime I did a podcast, I got a lot of love, and it was a lot of authentic love. Like, I didn't know your story or I loved getting to know you this way. Like, that's the kind of fan or the interaction you really want. And so people on Twitter, I have a huge Twitter following, and they really have asked for a podcast. So that was one intention. Another intention was I wanted not just brands, but I wanted, when someone looked at me, for it not just to be the image. I wanted to have something more to offer. Because I do have a lot more to offer. So I thought, why don't I make my own show? Instead of waiting around for someone to tell me to host a show, why don't I host my own show? And then you can have that. You know, I want to be more well rounded. And then I think the third was. I really have a lot to say. You know what? That's the one shitty thing about podcasts is they like you to be theme driven.

Yep.

But there's my head bops around on so many things that I would love.

To talk about, and it's dope, because you can. It's like your podcast is your own show.

Yeah. Maybe some people will complain. Some people. But I'm working on it.

Okay, so how many episodes are you deep just for the listeners? I think 11. Okay, 11.

Yeah.

And you started it. You said March2018, I think let's say.

April, just so it sounds better. April, May, June. It's probably April.

Okay.

Yeah. Enough to be one a week since I started.

Yeah.

Except for the month of June.

Yeah. So I was listening to one of the Dan Fleshman, and I heard you when you were talking about your impact on getting jobs or getting brand deals from someone having a following, I want to ask, when it comes to the way you do brand deals, what do you think's been the most successful, successful promotion on your end? But also brands ends when it comes to the marketing, because we have a lot of marketers that are listening and whether they want to work with influencers like yourself and have a big budget or whatever. What's some things that you see as the person either doing the promotion that works the best in this whole Internet marketing sort of promotion world?

I of course, think that when brands align themselves with authentic users, that's one thing. I think that if you pay someone who. Who puts like 10 ads a day, no one cares.

Yeah.

I really do. Yeah. It's annoying. And then I think when brands align themselves with. With a person that makes sense, it'll react better.

Yeah.

I even did a commercial. So imagine this. I did this commercial that went pretty viral and did well on betting.

Okay.

And you're like, what do I have to do with betting? But it was this crazy that it was like a pillow commercial and we're doing a joke and we're talking about how soft, soft our pillows are. And so imagine me really busty. I have this page. I'm kind of known for that.

Yeah. Yeah.

So they're like, oh, why don't we use that to make this commercial? And it works really well. Yeah. So I like when people are creative and they take. They put some thought into it and.

Something that works together, totally the brand. So it doesn't feel like, I guess, an ad. It's a piece of content that obviously promotes a company, but it's like on the back end, subconsciously. Yeah, that's dope. I think. I totally agree with you. You follow these pages, you get three ads a day or a week or whatever it is. And it's like you just swipe right past them, you know, And I'm sure you do the same thing with other people. But it's like when you see a piece of content that's a brand deal, but it's like subconscious. I totally agree with you. That. And I'm sure you just kind of gave the confirmation that those are Killing it in the game today.

Yeah. Way more fun.

Yeah. So for right now, it's just August 2, today, 2018, moving into 2019. When it comes to, I guess, the social space, where's your head? Is it mainly on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube videos, obviously podcasts. But what's sort of your intake on your focus of content on social media? Because I think everyone has their different focuses on different platforms. So, like, where's your head at? Where do you spend the most time? Where do you think in the next year or two that you will be? Or how does that really look?

I overwhelmingly spend the most time on Twitter. Twitter is what definitely matters the most to me. Yeah. It's all thought. It's news based. It's really fun. I don't have a Twitter.

I do, but it's like, I barely never.

Oh my God, you need to follow me. You'll see why I keep it really fun. And I think that my Twitter following is such an authentic following because they're there for whatever I'm saying. And a lot of times it's really weird shit. So I don't know. I love Twitter. Like, I really love Twitter. But over the next year, I'm sorry, still gonna be on Instagram. I'll stay the hell off of Facebook. I'm never on there.

Never.

Facebook, I like, every now and then I'll post on there. But I hate. It's not user friendly. It's such an angry spot. And it's just ugly.

Yeah.

Like, to log into, it's ugly.

Totally.

Because I don't know, for our listeners, if you don't have one of these, like, do you have a business page? Is that what it's called, a business page?

Yeah.

One of these pages looks like you're operating a spaceship.

Yeah.

There are buttons everywhere. It's like, it's just bizarre. There's like buttons and ads and there's like different colors and it's ugly as shit. And I'm like, I'm not operating a control system. I just want to post something for my friends.

Yeah.

Such a mess. If it's ugly, I don't want to do it. That's why I like Twitter. It's like one by one by one. It's still chronological.

I thought you'd about to say Instagram, because I think that's where I spend my time. But Twitter, that's unique.

Yeah, I love Instagram, but Twitter is like where my heart's at.

Yeah, because it's just like spontaneous. You can throw out random shit all day every Day.

Yeah. Twitter spirit. Fun, man. Get on Twitter.

Okay. I got you. It's for sure. So I think I want to talk about just in regards to the podcast, because I started this, like I said, six months ago, and it's literally opened up doors, like, to be in a room with you. I wouldn't have ever thought that. Right. Six months ago. Or with Dan or whoever I'm having on my podcast. So for you and you getting these people on your show, what would you say is the next level to a podcast when it comes to. Is it one a week? Do you have a spirit? I heard you talk about dance. Something that stuck out to me, which I love about you, is, like, you're like, I wouldn't want to spend money on a car. I'd rather put $100,000 into a studio. And I'm like, my girl, invest into your brand. Invest into what you're doing. So how, for the podcast, what's your goals with that? Do you want to have a studio? Do you want to make this whole operation and kind of have a team behind it? Or what does that look like for build your empire like we talked about before? That's sort of our next step, and I'm curious to know what yours is.

You know what? I would love all of that. I would love to get to the point where I'm not overwhelmingly the person getting the talent and scheduling the stuff. And, like, you know, I even had to, like, ask someone to make me a jingle and then learn how to. You know, I've kind of, like, really gone on this rogue and figured it out, which has been a lot of fun. But I hope that over the next year and throughout the guests and it gets even more fun and more consistent. Yeah, I hope that someone else wants to do that for me. I do want to take it and start filming it soon, because I did that recently with Dan, and it was way more fun. Yeah. I like your film. That's good. Gonna be 100% top of the list. Gonna happen. But I think I'm just gonna continue to have fun with it and continue to have guests and people that I want on.

Yeah.

And then if the stats show from there that someone feels like helping me with it, then great. That's. But that's. I just want to build it right now and have a lot of fun.

Yeah, that's sick. So I want to kind of transition. So when it comes to just everything you're doing from Instagram, podcasts and everything, when it comes to just, like, when you wake up every Day. It's. What do you say? And this might be deep. It's like, your why. Like, why are you doing what you're doing? Is it. Do you have an end goal which you want to go in the next five, ten years, or sort of like, what's the passion or something that's pulling you that you could kind of put together, kind of like comprehend into your why moving forward?

Oh, that's pretty easy. So I actually have, like, a focus sentence. I read this book by Jack Canfield. It's like a success principle.

Soup of the soul.

No, I mean, I did read those, but no, he's for adults.

He's.

He has a lot of success books. And one of them, you had to kind of create a focus sentence. And mine was basically, I'm gonna use my wit and ambition to help people understand each other better. Cause you kind of. You create, like, the way you did this focus sentence. It basically spelled it out for you. But my goal is really, like, the end goal is to entertain people and to have fun, but also to help people see each other's side. We live in such a polarizing, angry time a lot of times, and. And I think that there's. It's really easy to take the anger out and make it more fun and lighthearted. We're all human, and a lot of people forget that. And coming from my Louisiana, conservative kind of that state and my love for history and what I've learned, all that, like, I just feel like there's a way I can combine it all. I'm gonna combine that entertainment and that and that. And I'm gonna use my education, but I'm also gonna use it for a purpose. That's my end goal.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

Do you read a lot? I think you're like, read this book. Read that book. How often do you read? I don't know.

I read every piece of news on Twitter, like, everything on Twitter now, so I feel like I'm not reading too much.

Okay, but you're bringing up all these books. Like, do you read books a lot?

Because I want to be reading books a lot. I wish I'd read more, but I always. I mean, I always have a book nearby in hand, but a lot of. I feel like I've gotten lucky with.

Some of the books.

I've just picked out things that have been so impactful that they mattered.

Yeah, totally. I mean, everyone you named. Yeah, Everyone you're naming is like, holy shit. These are impactful people. And their core message down. So that's Dope.

Yeah.

That's sick. So do you. When it comes to, like, your current lifestyle, are you going back to Louisiana a lot? Is it once a year? Like, how often do you kind of go back to your roots?

I guess you could say I've only visited, I think, three times in the last four years, which isn't not. It's not a lot. But I went back for Mardi Gras recently, and I had a lot of fun. And even for my birthday, I went back. My aunt turned 90.

Okay.

So I went to visit. Yeah, I love Louisiana. It's definitely not where I could live and thrive right now, but I do have a love for it. And I feel like, you know, when I look at my future and I look at my 60s or 50s, I really want to do a lot of charity work there. And I love to own a home there. And I'd love to. Yeah, I'd love to bring, like, a piece of Hollywood to Louisiana. And that's for sure on one of my biggest goals. So. Yeah, that's one of my biggest goals. I would love to go there. Even, like, a boutique fitness studio. It's really Hollywood inspired because you need that there.

Yeah. Some hips and like. Yeah.

Hollywood edge.

Yeah.

Mixed with Southern charm.

That's cool. So when it comes to Hollywood living, I think for me, it's like I'm coming from Virginia, small town. Everyone looks at Hollywood as this place that. Oh, they'll never go there. They just see it as this Persona. So obviously we're talking a lot about the good. What's. Some things in your. Do you have any, like, things that have just caught you off guard or things that happened in Hollywood that have just been, like, negative to sort of like, your next step or you moving here? Has it always been, like, getting to the next step or has there been any major obstacle? I guess I could say, yeah, I.

Think Hollywood living is a lot what people think it is, and in a lot of ways, it's a lot different. In Hollywood, you're in a land of dreamers. So I don't know, I just feel like. I always feel like magic runs off, rubs off on each other. So you're here in this town where everyone. I read one, one place, they thought they were too good for their hometown. So you're basically in Hollywood where all these people had major dreams. And I feel like that is, at the end of the day, a beautiful place to be. As opposed to the latter, you're with people who think that they can still make it. They think that their Dream is still the most important thing on earth. No matter how high the rent is here or how difficult it is or how many castings they go to, they don't give up. For me, that's a beautiful, inspiring thing. So I've always looked at Hollywood as a beautiful thing. And even, you know, they always say that there's bad people or there's snakes or malicious. I'm telling you, every. Every person who's ever done anything good knows that those people don't matter. They'll never matter. They'll never make it. You should be thankful for those people because it shows that you're like, you know, you've got it going on.

You're doing something big enough to have people that are either hating or whatever it is.

Yeah. And they're gonna knock themselves out of the lineup. Like, they're not gonna be a competition. So I don't know. I look at the positives of Hollywood.

Yeah. Yeah, totally.

I love it.

That's beautiful. So I have a couple more questions. So regards to Jess. Moving forward. I definitely want to talk about you as your social circles or communication or networking, because I think for me, it's like, over the last few years, my network, for coming from a small town in Virginia, it's just like, holy shit. You can meet with sort of whoever you want. Like, I feel like, come out here, it's like, circles are small. It's like you're one person away from that person that you thought you could never chat with. So for you, when it comes to just this whole social media space, connecting with a lot of people, do you have, I would say, a strategy to connect with certain people? Obviously, now you're. You have this influence and people are coming to you, but, like, when moving here and then obviously meeting all these amazing people, what was your intent when it comes to building a network? Did you kind of have intent to say, I want to meet these people, collaborate with these brands, or was it more something where things just kind of fell into place and one thing led to the next?

In a sense, I think when I moved here, I was really lucky. So a lot of things just fell into place.

Yeah.

But I think it still goes back to putting yourself in the right environment, because there's no way. Yeah, there's no way I would meet certain people. And a lot of times it's. There are. There's been a few times where I've said, I need to go out, not because I want to go out and have fun, but because I think I might meet someone that I should meet.

Yeah.

And that once person said I sounded pretentious when I said that. But no, that's being intelligent. And that's called networking. Sometimes you need to go out when you don't want to because you might meet the right person. So it. And I think it's good to vary what. Where you spend your time. So I think it's good to maybe like, you know, last week I was at the Comedy Central, like a roast or something. You know, I started meeting writers and producers and people in entertainment. But it's also. I also worked for. I spoke at a digital marketing meeting. Yeah. So I'm meeting people who are developing these. These businesses, and they really need online marketers like me. So I just kind of sprinkle, you know, myself everywhere. It's important. But. And I live my life. I'm always resume building.

Okay.

I don't think a lot of people care about that, but in my life, I knew growing up, it's all about your resume. What's on that resume, your education, what have you done? What are your significant traits and goals? And so I still live my life like I'm resume building.

Okay.

So if I have an opportunity to do something, even if it's unpaid or if it could seem of importance on a resume, I'm gonna do it.

That's amazing. I feel like it's always continuous, too. You know, it's so cool because I feel like a lot of people, it's like, though I totally agree, like, with that. Superlative, ambitious. I can. I just get that vibe from you. I love it. When it comes to, I would say, wrapping up this podcast, I have, like, two more questions. Just you as an individual, Your daily goals, your daily habits. I guess you would say living in la, like, what's something that, in a sense, that kind of keep you grounded, keep you focused, because I think there's a lot of noise when you come out here. You can get lost pretty quickly and like, different people, different situations. So I would guess the question is, what's sort of your daily routine, if you have one at all.

Oh, my God, this is the problem. I'm a Taurus, and I love security and routine, and I get none of that because I'm living in. I have this job where every now and then I'll book five things in a week, and I'll have to fly to Vegas and then back and then do something crazy, and then I'll have a week of nothing and a week where I have to organize what I'm doing next and it's frustrating for me. So my daily day is really different. Some days it's like trying to catch up on email. Some days it's creating content and editing pictures and some days it's dealing with the calendars and doing all this stuff. And a lot of times it's going to night events and networking and doing that and trying to get a job that way.

Yeah.

So yeah, my day is all over the place.

That's cool. That's cool. So it's all over the place. Random things pop up, things happen.

It really is.

Okay, do you have any like, certain, like when you wake up, is it like, do you have a morning routine or when it comes to just like staying in the groove, do you write down your goals? Because you said you had a vision board that stuck out to me as like. Oh, yeah, you have. You write down things, you know, where you want to go in a sense and obviously things can come maneuver in between. Yeah. But do you have, I would say like sort of a plan or something that you kind of stay focused on?

A planner?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, I have a planner. I have like a real written like planner with a pen that I have all the time. Yeah. That gives me my day to day and certain things I've got to do.

Yeah.

I would be dead without the planner. And the vision board I love because the vision board is I can write specific goals, I write specific magazine covers I want and monetary goals. And it's crazy how quickly that you can get those things when you just write it and you just look at it every day. The vision board is like really good.

That's so crazy.

Everyone has a vision board. Like you should get one.

I have one for sure.

Yeah, I know you do, but so many people don't. And it takes five seconds to write something down. And I also keep a journal, but the journal is more for me to relax. And I've always known as a history person that, you know, everyone great has written in a journal. So I'm gonna try my luck and do what they have done, you know.

Yeah. That's so cool. So I just want to kind of end this with when it comes to you building this empire in these last four years, what's been some of like the major takeaways or learning experiences that you've had from literally coming from small town, Louisiana, growing up in this conservative like you, there's like a box that you're supposed to fit in. What's been some of like the biggest takeaways from meeting all these amazing people doing all these amazing things, building an amazing brand that kind of stick out to you, that you kind of could package up and kind of give advice in a sense of just your journey.

So far, I would definitely give the advice that I've gotten from everyone successful, everyone incredible, incredibly successful has told me the same thing. And it's that they work hard and they don't give up. And it sounds incred, really cheesy, but we give up so quickly in life and we discount what our real dream has been. We've started discounting it from like 5 years old because people have said you can't do it and we haven't seen people do it. So it's really as cheesy as it sounds. Like you cannot give up and you have to kind of. I would also tell people that especially in this business, especially, especially in the Hollywood business, that life rolls in waves and you'll have times where you are very busy and very on and then you will have times where you're very down and you're very not and you're not sure when the next job is and you're going to be overlooked for something that seemed important, but it goes in waves and you're going to get something better later. It's just, it's really mind blowing how that works. And all you have to do is ride the wave. You just can't quit.

Trust the process.

Yeah, that's cheesy.

Yeah, it really is. So cheesy.

But you can't quit. Like that's all you have. All you really, really, really, really, really have to do is not quit and not quit dreaming. That's it. Don't settle, don't do it. Don't take that shitty job you didn't want. Like, just keep trying.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

So last, last question, you now looking back, what would you tell? Because there's a lot of young listeners, like from 16 to, I would say 20, 25 in that young entrepreneur demographic that my audience is. If you were kind of looking back to like you before making that leap to move to la, what would you tell your younger self that could kind of resonate with people? Because I feel like hearing it from your perspective, maybe there's a lot of females that are listening right now and I have a lot of male guests, so talking to females, but also males. What's something advice or something that you've learned throughout your journey that looking back, if you were just like about to make that leap, about to move to LA again and kind of restart this whole journey, what Would you tell yourself that you think would be something valuable to know moving forward?

I would really just simply encourage myself. I think a lot of times when we have crazy dreams, no one, no one pats you in the back and goes, oh, that's a great idea. Especially your parents, especially the people you might need them to do it the most.

Yeah.

So my. I would tell myself, you are the only one who knows what you're capable of. You're literally the only one who knows. You're the only one who can make a dream happen or not happen. So if it takes me, me just saying it, at least you've heard it one time. It's true. No one thought ever that I could model. Like that was laughable. No one ever thought I could move.

To LA and not friends or what exactly.

Oh, hometown friends. They knew me really well because we grew up like sisters, so they might not have doubted me, but especially in college, I used to tell my dreams to bar guests and my co workers and it was laughable. They were like, oh, you'll never be a model. Like, you know, you couldn't. They just.

The negative energy just.

Yeah, no one thought, they thought I wasn't humble because they thought like, oh, you must think you're amazing if you can go do that. And it's just funny now. Like, I've been on the COVID of FHN and I just shot with Yeezy and I have been in Maxim and I'm like, what? Like I did it and no one said I could.

Yeah.

So you know what you're capable of. And that would be, that would be all my encouragement. You know what you're capable of and be a nice person because nice people always want to.

I love it. So I think we should end on that. And I think everyone listening. If you're not following, Lindsey, I mean, when I listen to your podcast, I was like, damn, I got to see a whole other side of you when it comes to the personality and sitting with you now. It's just, it's really cool to kind of see like from a podcast, long form content. Like you can I say really get the gems. You know, it's like from my Instagram post you can. Or from Instagram story or a short video on Instagram. It's like the podcast podcast and this interview. So everyone listening. The point I'm trying to make is I want you to subscribe to her podcast. I know she's working on that right now and it would really mean a lot to. For you to take the time to subscribe to that, listen to it, hear what she has to say. Because just every time I'm entering, like, listening to you answer these questions, I'm like, educated. You have a plan. It's just like, it's phenomenal to see what you've created, like, what you have moving forward and how you're just still ambitious like you brought up earlier. So I just wanted to wrap it up and say, everyone, thank you so much, so much for listening to Lindsay with us today. It was phenomenal having on the show. I very much appreciate it and everyone listening. Like I said, please, please, please subscribe to our podcast. Make sure you hit me up after you listen to this. Let me know your thoughts. Let Lindsay know your thoughts. Spammer. I'm sure you get millions of DMs, but send her a message. Let her know that came from the podcast. Yeah, tweeter, right? Is that more just for the audience?

I see it all. Tweet me and I'll see it all.

Perfect. Perfect. You heard it from her itself. Shoot her a tweet. Is it what? Lindsay Paless on Twitter. Perfect. And all of her social medias. If you're not following her, they will be down below. And that being said, thank you so much for listening to the Rise of the Young podcast. I'll talk to you soon.

Casey, do you wanna do a second intro?

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