Sebastian Ghiorghiu - Building Your Dream House & Creating Wealth At 23 Years Old
18 Nov 2022 · 50 min
Recorded November 2022, this Casey Adams podcast episode features Sebastian Ghiorghiu discussing his rise from childhood scarcity to entrepreneurship and YouTube success. Major themes: building momentum from past effort, early start in real estate (began ~age 17), building a dream house in Arizona (Phase two started), a $100k Shopify competition (16 winners tiers: fifteen $5k, one $25k) to encourage dropshipping, social-media minimization, priorities on relationships/family, sleep and controlled-suffering habits, and plans to eventually leave social platforms.
Questions this episode answers
Around age 17.
Shopify Olympics: $100,000 total; 15 winners of $5,000 each and one top winner of $25,000 (16 people total).
Generate over $500 in revenue.
Honolulu Marathon on December 11th (year implied shortly after recording).
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Welcome back to the Casey Adams Show. I am super excited to have not only a good friend on the show today, but someone that I have so much respect and admire over the years of knowing him, and that is the one and only Sebastian Giorgio. Thanks so much for going to the show, brother.
Oh, thank you so much for having me, Casey, and for those nice words, of course.
So welcome to Blue Wire. I know this is your first time here, so welcome to the studio.
Yeah, I'm a little bit overwhelmed. I'm a little bit overwhelmed. I mean, in all my days, YouTubing, I've never seen anything like that, like this. So this is really impressive.
It's. It's quite the spot. And again, shout out to Blue Wire. I always say this when I'm starting the show because they just. They've been incredible to work with. And again, quite the studio. So before we jump into the show, man, it's so great to see you. I know I recently saw you at the fight, Eric's fight, and it's just. It's so cool to see your journey over the years. I know we've known each other for quite some time, since the Arizona days when I lived there. I mean, first question is, man, just how are you? I know you've. You've done some incredible things over the years since we first met, and senior growth has been incredible, but business aside, like, how are you? How's life? How's your day? I know we were just catching up at breakfast, but what's good, dude?
Yeah, I'm amazing. I'm amazing. I said this when Danny interviewed me not too long ago. Every single month is better than the last, and it's just higher highs. Like, I feel like the, like the bitcoin bull run, but it just keeps going higher and higher. And I'm actually kind of scared because I'm like, well, everything that goes up has to come down, right, eventually. So I'm. I'm curious. And I asked myself, I'm like, is this, this is not sustainable? Like, how. How much better can things get? And it's just. I genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, bottom of my heart, feel very content, very happy, very fulfilled by life. Just, I'm full of joy. Like, I can't explain it. And it definitely, definitely was not always like, like, like that for sure. Definitely was a pretty bad, bad experience up until, like, 20. But, yeah, I figured some stuff out. And ever since then, it's just been higher highs.
Yeah, I love that, man. And for the people that are maybe just watching the Video and maybe not don't know your story. We'll get into that. But I know firsthand from seeing your content, from watching interviews, you're in the best shape of your life. You have an incredible relationship, you're building your dream house, you've hit incredible milestones. And when you talk about the months are getting better and better and that momentum, like, what does that mean to you? Right? Because I think in life you have to, you know, you, you understand that there's going to be times that, and things that you can't control. And you, you must be aware of that. But right now, when you think about momentum and building that momentum and, and riding it, how do you think about that? And for, again, for people that may not know kind of why you're thinking that way. I know I just laid out a couple items, but why do you think things are going so well right now in your life?
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. I believe that the reason things are going so well is because it's, it's more so like the fruits of the labor I've put in prior that are. That are starting to pay, like, dividends. So, like, the hard work that I've put in with business and with everything a year ago and with my relationship and all of that a year ago and with the gym, all of that stuff takes time. It doesn't happen quick. It's not expedient. So I think that it's starting to pay dividends right now, and it's just making me very, very happy. So it's like you plant a tree and it grows, and then you have to wait a while and then it starts producing fruit, and then you can start eating the fruit, and it's amazing. And it will keep producing fruit. And it's that kind of vibe. I think that's why it's doing well. I just, I feel like I did a lot of things well or like, right for some time, and now it's just starting to pay off and I'm just reaping the, the benefits of it.
Yeah, I love to hear that, bro. I want to take it back before I dive into some, some current questions that I'm so curious about. For the people that may not know what got you into entrepreneurship, when did you start this journey of someone that wanted more to do more with their life? Where did this journey begin? Because I know when I met you in 2019 to now, it's like you have such a growth mindset that, you know isn't just how you started. You've grown over Time. But where did this journey begin for you?
I mean, it began when I was, like, probably six or seven. Like, as long as I can remember, I just. It began when. When my mom would say no to everything because we had no money. I. I could not experience life. There was. There was a wall from me experiencing life because of money. And it started then, and I was, like, just very, very sick of hearing we don't have money. No, Very, very tired of hearing that. And. Yeah. So, like, from before I was 10, I was already thinking about how I can make as much money as possible. I was completely obsessed with it. And the entrepreneurship journey actually started when I was about 17, when I had to, like, finally start making my own choices, and I was going to get sent off to college, and I was like, okay, I don't really want to do this. Like, I want to try something else. And that's how I found real estate in. That was my rite of passage into everything else. Yeah, real estate. But that started when I was about. When I was about 17. Yeah.
Got it. And at 17, what were some of the. The initial goals that you had in mind? Because I think I know auditing them now, they're. I'm sure they're way different. But when you first got started, what were some of the. The ideas of success to you? Right? Like, how have they changed over time, especially with the growth, whether that's financially or mentally or physically? Like, what was that initial goal you were striving for? You can say money. Is it. Was that a number? Was that a final destination? Like, what was your mindset when you were 17?
So, okay, so at first it was, I just want to be able to have money, so I cannot. So I can live and experience life. And then when I became 17. When I was 17. Do you ever see those videos on YouTube where it's like, tours of, like, $100 million houses with, like, really fancy elevator music? So I got really into those, and I was like, okay, this house. I want this house. And it was $100 million. So I actually screenshotted my favorite part from this YouTube video, and I had it as the background on my laptop, on my computer for years. So I wanted that. So I wanted to drive a Lamborghini and live in Los Angeles and live up in the hills. And that's obviously very materialistic. When I was 17, that's what was the goal then. I just wanted to, like, live the coolest life that, like, is very obviously filled by money. That's what I. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And Then as I started pursuing money and, and getting it, obviously things change and you grow up a little bit, but yeah, that's what it was.
Such an interesting thought and I wanted to bring up, I was at this movie premiere just the other day. Have you heard of yesterday, the YouTube channel? So they have this movie, it was first night premiering in the U.S. it's called Project Iceman. And I bring it up because I wanted to have a conversation with you about just doing the hard things. And this movie, I'm not going to spoil it or talk about all the in depth. It's this guy who is the first person in the world to complete an Iron man on Antarctica. And it is very profound. The journey of training and getting ready for it and being told he can never do that. It's impossible. Even from the people that have done marathons all over the world, Ironman's all over the world. And he ended up doing it. And I wanted to bring that up because at the end of the film he was there and he said, you know, I want everyone to find their own Iceman. Find that one thing that people are maybe telling you that isn't possible, you'll never be able to do it. And I wanted to ask you, you know, what has been throughout your journey so far, like that Iceman for you, something that someone has said, hey, that's not possible, you will never do that. Did you have that type of, type of energy or surrounding, whether that's a limiting belief yourself or from people around you? And how did you overcome that and push through?
Okay, so I don't particularly have, I guess, my Iceman yet. I mean, that's always changing. Like I'm always finding something that I have to do bigger and better. But yeah, in terms of negative energy, people were not so much being like negative in a harmful way, where they're like, no, you shouldn't do this, or no, you can't, or whatever. They were just saying it's like not realistic, it's not a good idea. Like, they just had my best interests at heart. And when I say people, I mean like my family, my friends, of course. But yeah, they were just trying to protect me. And they're like, hey, this is, it's not normal. It's very unfamiliar for them to hear, like, hey, I want to make all this money and go this route, because nobody does that. So when they hear it, it's, it's, it's not familiar and it's scary. Right? It's not known. It's. Yeah, so they're probably like, no, it's not going to. It's not going to work out. Yeah. I don't think I have, like, my own Iceman. Like, I feel like, as an entrepreneur, you are constantly changing. Like, every six months, something new is happening, and you're always wanting to challenge yourself. Like, that's the type of people that we are. So what I'm working towards right now will probably likely be very different six months or a year from now.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Yeah. I love that. And thinking of the future. Right. Is there something right now that I've heard you say in Danny's interview, you talked about this concept of, I believe I can do anything I set my mind to, and having that with certainty. Is there anything that intimidates you? Right. The guy Anders, who did this, Iron man on Antarctica, truly inspired me just to how he thought about it, because it's never been done before. It's daunting. It's intimidating.
You.
You know, it has a lot of. A lot of risk to it, like, physically, in terms of you could die, so not going there. But is there anything that you are excited about throughout your journey that you are moving towards that intimidates you and why?
Well, okay, when you said, is there anything that intimidates you? Yeah. Skydiving. I don't want to go skydiving. Okay. I don't know why my girlfriend wants to go skydiving. My friends, people that work with me want to go skydiving. I don't want to go skydiving. Guys, I like, I don't want to.
I'm on the same page as you.
I don't want to skydive. I don't want to do it. I. They're like, just say you're scared. I'm scared. I don't want to do it. Like, I'm not going to skydive. But in terms of, like, bringing it back to entrepreneurship, I think the only thing that intimidates me going forward is I'm growing really fast, and there's a lot of eyes on me, and. And the thing that's really scary is just the fear of. Of failure. And I think about this 2% of the time, just to be clear, but this is the only thing I can think of is just the fear of failing in front of so many people. So it's like, obviously, you always have to continue growing and doing, you know, bigger and better things, and. And if you fail, it's quite humiliating. And that's a very strong emotion that people don't like to feel so. Especially with millions of people watching you and, you know, like, looking at your every move and being very inspired by what you do. Like, it's. It's very like, okay, I got to get this right? Like, that's the only intimidating part. But, bro, like, at the end, like I said, it's like 2%. Like, I'm kind of weird. I'm kind of psychotic. I'm like, I don't really care. I don't know. Like, but that's the only thing. Yeah.
What does. Because I've heard many different answers. Question, what does failure mean to you? Right. It could be a financial event. There's a lot of things. Right. You could many different areas of what that word means for you. Like, what is failure in that sense of being intimidated by it?
Failure, I guess, would be, I'm going to do something. I'm going to attempt to do something. I'm going to try this and putting it out there and then just not. Not getting the result that you expected or the result that you portrayed to everybody listening, I guess, would be failure. But it. It's never really failure if you don't quit. Yeah, right. Like, it's. If you just keep going, like, it's not really failure if you're like, okay, that didn't work. I'm gonna try again. Okay, that didn't work. I'm gonna try again. You know, it's. I guess now that I'm thinking about it in that context, like, you can't really fail if you just don't give up. And that'd probably be more inspiring for people to watch anyway, like, oh, it didn't work perfectly the first time. That's realistic. Watch him do it again. And then, okay, he did better, but not so much, okay, watch him do it again.
Yeah, No, I think that's super on point. I get a lot of questions. I get. The one simple question that I get all the time is, you know, what have you learned from all the people that you've interviewed? And I always go back to the same answer of they simply never quit and they were just consistent. And if you were just consistent and never quit, like, that's, in my eyes, the true answer to success and in whatever avenue of life that you pursue. But switching conversations. Arizona, you're building your dream house. I know you absolutely love real estate. You have these aspirations to build these. One of one building is all over the world. Where does this drive for real estate come from? How's the process been of building your dream house currently? And just where's your mind on it right now? I know that it must be a super exciting period for you.
Yeah, I don't. I don't. Dude, I don't know where this drive comes from. Danny said that we were trying to dissect it, and he's like, maybe because you grew up with nothing. When you went into this big, grand building, you saw something that, like, was so overwhelming, and it, like, imprinted on you. And I was like, that's very possible. Like, I was very overwhelmed, and I was like, this is very great, very grand. Like, it's very amazing by just really cool real estate stuff. But, yeah, the drive. I don't know where it comes from. I just. I really like visually appealing stuff. Like, I think it's cool. Especially lights. Like, you guys will see. You guys, I'm saying it right now. I'm going to design and build the coolest homes that you guys have ever seen on the entire planet. It'll be, like, a thing. And Georgia residences will be, like, apartments, and it'll be condos. Like, it'll be a whole thing. You guys will see it, and it'll be the coolest pieces of real estate on the planet. With lights, especially. I love lights, but I don't. I don't know where the drive comes from. I just. I really like it. And in terms of the dream house, like. Like I was telling you at breakfast, it's the coolest thing I've ever done. Nothing comes even close. Like, not YouTube, nothing. Like, no business. No nothing. Even. Even comes 10% to us. Cool. For me, as. As going and turning the corner on. On that street and seeing. And seeing wood and seeing framing for the first time on that house. It was just something I've always had, like, I've always had a desire to do. I don't know. I'm very, very drawn to it, but it will be that I'm not. So I'm not, like, the best business guy, to be completely honest. I. I think that in terms of business and strategy and stuff like that, I'm not. I'm not very good. I think that's not, like, my calling in life. I did business, and I made money with it, but I really like being an artist, like, designing architecture and visually appealing stuff. And that's where my heart is, for sure. So, yeah, I think people know that. I think people know that. But you guys will start to see, unfortunately, to build really, really cool building, it takes. It takes a lot of money. So I had to get money first. Yeah, but we're Phase two has started.
I love that. And at breakfast, I know we were talking about, you know, the completion date of the home. And outside of like seeing the wood, seeing the foundation, for me thinking about doing that, it would represent much more than just the house itself. Like, for you, what does this process mean to you and what have you learned through it?
It's. It's a good checkpoint in my life and it tells me and it shows me that I'm doing well and I'm going in the right direction for sure. I know that I've always wanted to do this ever since I watched those real estate videos on my computer in high school and I saved that image I always wanted when I was watching those videos, I was like, it'd be sick to. To make stuff like that. And seeing just like a very baby. Obviously I was looking at $100 million houses that were, you know, 20,000 square feet. My house is nothing like that. But I know it's the first step in that direction. I understand that. And I always look back on this house and be like, that was like the first one. It's probably going to be my favorite one. Honestly. It probably will be. So it means a lot. It just means that I. I had a desire, I had something in my mind that I wanted to do, and five years later, I'm doing it. Like, I'm. I'm taking the first step in that doorway. And it's incredibly empowering, for sure.
Yeah, I love that. One thing that I did want to bring up coming off of this project Iceman story that inspired me. Have you heard of a guy named James Lawrence by chance, or he's known as the Iron Cowboy. Heard of him? So this guy, I've known about him, but I realized that he recently beat his record. So he initially set this record where he ran 50 Ironmans in 50 days in all 50 states. That's back to back to back to back. And this, I. I listened to this podcast with him with one of my good. One of my favorite podcasts, the Rich Roll podcast. He interviewed him because in 2021 he actually beat that record. And he ran 101 Ironmans over the course of 101 days consistently just two in each state.
How did he.
No, no, it was just. He stayed in his hometown. And so we did same thing on, you know, you woke up one day, ran, what is it, swam two point something miles, biked 115 miles, and then ran 26.2 miles marathon. And we did that for 101 days. And for me it, it really bends my mind in terms of human potential and what's possible and just really makes you think about, you know, how are we limiting ourselves. And on the way here, because I've been thinking about doing a marathon for a while. I was training for it late last year. I was gonna do it in March. Then I hurt my knees when I did a 17 mile run, so I put on the back burner. And then just recently, I'm doing a half marathon on November 6th and I'm training for it. Last weekend I was just gonna do a 10 mile run. I ended up doing a whole half marathon training for this. And I was listening to this podcast and it was pushing me. And then this. And I say all this to say that on the way here this morning, I've just kept coming back to this idea of like, when am I gonna do this marathon? So I booked and committed to running the Honolulu Marathon on December 11th. Literally booked it, like right before I took off this morning coming to Vegas. And I wanted to bring this up on the podcast to ask you, you know, when, when's the last time that you've done something and committed to something that felt like, wow, like I, I committed to this. But it's going to be a heavy lift. There's going to be a lot of work ahead. And it might have felt, you know, like too heavy in the moment, but you knew you had to grow into someone better, someone more, whether that's in a quick timeframe or not. Because I think for me this morning, it's like having that sense of commitment I already know, like, wow, I'm going to grow so much as a human over these next 45 days by committing to this. Is there anything in your life that has happened for you similar or that you've been thinking about doing that maybe you haven't yet, that, you know, just keeps coming back to your mind?
No. No specific challenges like that. So do you mean entrepreneurship?
Only both. Any. Anything business, personal. I think they go hand in hand.
Okay, well, I'll give you both then. And I'll, I'll just be quick with both of them. From personal first, definitely my girlfriend, because so I'm 100%, 100%, like, money back, guarantee, satisfaction guarantee, going to marry this chick. And so, like, I know what that means for me and it means like, okay, this is the fork in the life where every decision I make has to be okay. Like, I, I have a girlfriend, I have a, I'm in a committed relationship for the rest of my being on this Planet. Right. So that's definitely one where I'm like, okay, like, well, that's a lot. But I'm, I definitely made that decision. I'm committed to it and that's something I'm excited to do. And that's going to be, you know, like you said, relationships are work. On the, on the business side, I recently launched tso, the Shopify Olympics. Have you heard about that?
No.
So I'm giving away 100 grand.
Tell me more.
16 people. So I'm giving my 100 grand to 16 people. All they have to do is start a drop shipping business and generate over $500 in revenue. And as long as they use our link and use some of the sign up the form on the, on the Shopify Olympics website, they'll be entered to win.
Wow.
Yeah, so I thought that a ton of people would be joining that and that was like months of planning and it actually launched like two weeks ago, so. So 15 people win $5,000 and they'll be selected at random and one person will win $25,000 and it's the person that generates the most. So I'm literally paying people to start a business and make money. Because my idea is most of the people that watch my channel are very inspired and they're like, I want to do this. This is super cool. And maybe they attempt it and they fail and they're like, okay, this is not working or maybe it's not for me or whatever. And so this, this is the idea where it's like, okay, really give it a shot. Like, because it's in it, you can win. If you make over 500 bucks, you can win 5,000. And if say, like you find a good product and say you make a lot of money and you're, you make the most out of everybody in the competition, you can make $25,000. Yeah, that's epic. Yeah. And we were going to actually give away a quarter million dollars plus extra prizes. So we're going to give away up to $300,000 in prizes over the next 60 days if a certain amount of people joined the competition. But unfortunately we did not hit that. So we're sticking with 100k. And that was a big commitment for me because I'm. I had to raise money from sponsors and I had to do that. And that was definitely a lot. That. It was a lot for sure. But yeah, that's on the business side.
Okay, that makes sense. Speaking of YouTube, the YouTube journey, I know your content over the years. I love it. Seeing the interviews the vulnerability that you'll talk about in your videos is something that I admire. And knowing you over the years and how much you've grown and to get to the point where you are willing to share a portion of your life that you want to share, I think is so cool. And a lot of people can learn from it, yes, from the content, but even like the ability to, and willingness to create the content. So for you, you know, why do you do YouTube? What is it that inspires you to put out content, to, to be vulnerable with your audience? And where do you see YouTube being a role in your life in the future?
That's a good question. Again, things change a lot with time. So why I started doing YouTube is not why I'm doing it now. Everyone kind of wants to be a YouTuber. I feel like, like everyone wants to be famous or like to just have a lot of eyes on them. People like attention, humans like attention. But why I do it now, there's two reasons why I do it now, and one has a lot of subcategories. One, because I know I'm helping a lot of people, and that's the more important reason. Like, like just philosophically or whatever. I know that I'm, I'm a, I'm a big light in, in a dark world. And I'm, I'm telling a lot of people that it's possible and I'm showing the way for a lot of people. And I think that's really good. I'm doing a lot of positive, A lot of positive effects on the world, which is really good. I'm, I'm telling people like, hey, like, you can make money on the Internet. You can do this. But more so now I'm changing into, like, live the best possible life. So pursue things that are not expedient. Pursue things that are more fulfilling in life. Wife, kids, marriage, not degeneracy, like religion, that kind of stuff. So, and like, self help, be in good shape, like, take care of yourself, Be capable, be a man. Like, be masculine. So that's kind of where it's going now. And I think that that's extremely important for the, the world. Yeah, I think it's really important. So that's reason number one, which is the more important reason. And reason number two, it's extremely profitable. It's very, very profitable. And there's a lot of money in it. And so I'm just going to take advantage of it. I don't want to do YouTube when I have a family and kids and stuff. I want to completely get off the Internet.
So that is your goal long term? Like to get off.
Yes.
Of these platforms? In terms of the content creation aspect, yes.
I don't like social media. I already deleted Instagram. I don't have Instagram. You ever. You. My page is open. You can go follow me. But I don't have Instagram. And I really like.
Why is that? Because I know, like, I follow you on Twitter, YouTube, and again, you, you have.
I don't have Twitter either. I go on my computer when I tweet.
Got it.
Yeah.
So you just aren't spending time consuming. It's not the social content at least.
There's just, there's just nothing. I don't, there's nothing there for me. Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't care. The problem is when you get on Instagram, you're gonna get. You're gonna go through a couple stories. You're not gonna even. You're gonna completely zone out. Yeah. And then like, you'll go on other apps on your phone. So it's like Instagram is a gateway into like just being on your phone. And, and then you go on TikTok. And so like, if you just delete that part, it'll cut off all the other distractions that come after Instagram because you're already on your phone. So you're gonna check your email and then you're gonna check your TikTok, and then you're gonna check all these other things. And so what you'll notice is if you actually delete Instagram and this happens with every social media. If you delete one app, say you spend 30 minutes a day on this app, if you delete that app, you'll see your phone time go down by like an hour and a half. You're like, wait, what? How? Because it's like after you go on Instagram, you go and do all these other things. So if you delete Instagram and you delete Twitter and you delete TikTok, what are you going to go on your phone for? Like, you're going to be on your phone for like 20 minutes a day to answer calls. And if like Snapchat too, but like, I removed a bunch of people off Snapchat. So like, I only Snapchat, like, like my friend, my close friends and my girlfriend. Yeah. So it's like we're not Snapchatting all day. So it's like my phone time has gone down dramatically. And it's not so much that I want to Be more productive, because I'm not being productive 24 hours a day. It's just like, I don't want this stuff in my head. I don't. I don't care. Like, I don't. I don't want to know what everyone is doing all the time. I don't want to know what everyone's up to. Like, I just. I just want to be with me and my friends and my girlfriend and my family. Like, I don't. I don't want to know what's going on all the time. It's. I feel like it just. It stays in my head. Like it crams me. I don't know. So that's why I want to delete social media. But also nothing. Nothing. Like, I can't imagine having a family and posting them all over social media. And this is going to piss a lot of people off. And I'm going to say it. My family's going to be watching this and there are family members, cousins of mine that are going to see this and they've done this. And I'm sorry, but when they post, like, their freshly born baby, like two minutes old baby on Instagram, I can't help but cringe. Like, I don't like it. And it's like, dude, this is such an important moment in your life, and the first thing you're going to do is just post it so that everyone else can share it with you. And why wouldn't you just. Just hold onto that moment with your wife and your. Why wouldn't you just hold on to that and not post it and not share it with the whole world and just keep it to yourself? And I'm speaking from experience because I used to do this when I was like 19 and 20. I used to share every single thing on the Internet. I used to share it all. And it left me feeling very empty. It left me feeling very like. Like I had nothing left inside because I was putting it all on the Internet. And it's like, I understood that and I learned from that. And now I see people doing it and it's just like, I don't like it. I don't like it. So I don't want to do it. If you want to do it, you do it. But I don't want to do it. So I want to get completely off social media. I don't want to do YouTube. I don't want to do anything. When the time comes, I'm just going to. I'm going to blow up. I'm going to inspire A lot of people. I'm going to make a crap ton of money off YouTube and then I will leave the video library there for anyone else to enjoy. But I will not continue being on there. That's my plan.
That is a very well thought out plan. I appreciate you sharing that.
A few tangents there. We have to get a little controversial.
That in my mind, I'm like, wow.
That'S, that's going on.
No, I think that's so cool. And I want to bring that up because I think when I hear this from you, I can relate that to my own life. Just wanting that sense of clarity and mindfulness, right? Like whatever that means to whoever's watching or listening or yourself. I got to ask you, like, do you spend time meditating when you're alone? What is it with your own thoughts that you want to spend all of your time with? Right? Because I think it's a double edged sword, right? I think social media can be a great place to inspire you to stay connected with friends, et cetera. But on the flip side, it's like you're wasting time, you're clogging your own mind, you're suffocating your own thoughts. And I think hearing your side of it, of just not wanting to be on it at all in this phase of life and even moving forward with a family. How do you think about mindfulness? How do you remain in a positive state of mind when there's a lot of things that are happening in life and things that are maybe not always good? How do you remain in a positive or neutral state of mind that allows you to do more and be better?
Dude, I think it's just my attitude. I just have an extremely optimistic attitude. I don't really complain when things go wrong. I don't really complain. I'm always like, okay, well, let's find out the bright side. Let's find like the best in this or let's figure out a solution. Let's not complain because it's a waste of time.
Is that innate? Because like for me, I agree with you and that's how I, I believe I'm wired. Like from my mom, my dad, like to think positive about a situation regardless of it and to think about it that way. Like for you, was that always the case or was this learned over time?
No, it was, it was hardwired into me from, from since when I was a kid because there was, I had so many negative experiences as a child and, and I can't focus on negative because it was too painful. There's way too much negative. So the only happiness, the only contentfulness or the only, like, positive positivity would come when I would be like, okay, what's the best in this? That's the only happiness I would have. So most of it was negative. And then I'd be like, okay, how do I find the best in the situation? So I can smile, feel good. And that's just what I did as a kid and that's what I do now.
So I love that. I want to talk about things that have improved your life. So example, Right. I wear the OURA ring. Love it. This is just something that I enjoy the product and I'm very into the biometrics. So I have an eight sleep mattress, which you can control the temperature. You can. It tracks your heart rate, like, all the stuff. And then OURA ring similar for sleep data. And those are items or purchases that I've made that in my eyes, have improved my life and have helped me become better. I want to ask you what is maybe a purchase or an item or just a habit that you have that has dramatically improved your life, let's say within the last year.
Figuring out dialing in my sleep was definitely something. So getting a really good bed, getting blackout curtains, sleeping in a cold room, and taking magnesium before you go to bed.
Yeah, I do magnesium, too.
Yeah. Because you get. You get some wild dreams of magnesium, I'll tell you that. Some weird dreams. Yeah. So definitely those products associated with getting better sleep. Yeah, I would say that. Yeah.
Did you have someone that's like, hey, put more emphasis on your sleep, or were you not feeling good? Were you not sleeping good prior to that? Because you talking about sleep data, like, literally, that's. I'm so into it. Do you have the OURA ring or have you even thought about.
No, no, no, I don't have it. Maybe I should check it out, but I don't have it. In terms of. Did somebody put an emphasis on sleep? No, no. Like, I saw a couple of podcasts with, like, Andrew Huberman and some people talking about sleep. But, yeah, I would wake up and I'd feel really tired. And, like, that just doesn't make any sense. You know? What? Were you not sleeping? Like, why are you waking up? It makes no sense. So I was like, okay, I think that if I feel better, then I could probably. I would probably be happier and, like, do more and be more productive. So I just started kind of trying to figure out how to sleep better. And. And I figured it out. And then like, yeah, you Wake up. I remember waking up and, like, not being tired at all and feeling completely refreshed. And I was like. I was like, whoa, that's cool. That's sick. I want to do that more.
So I love that. Yeah, very cool. No, I agree. Like, the magnesium, like, putting emphasis on sleep, it's never been more important to me. So you hearing that come from you? It's. Yeah, the sign. Everyone that's watching, focus on your sleep.
Yeah, for sure. And it's. It's relatively easy, too. Just for, like, if someone wants something to walk away with, it's relatively easy, but even I fall short all the time. Like, it's like, okay, don't eat three hours before you go to bed so that your body can fully work on repairing itself while you're sleeping. Don't be around a bunch of lights, especially overhead lights, before you go to bed. Like, a few hours before bed. Don't be on your phone before bed. Like, use a candlelight. And if you just do that stuff, which is, like, very easy and very, very effective, but it's just hard to put your phone down before you go to bed. Like, everyone's always on their phone. Eating before bed is not too hard, but definitely don't do that. And sleep in a colder environment, and it's like, that's really all you have to do. And you'll feel a lot better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What. Outside of sleeping, when it comes to staying productive and setting goals and actually sticking to your word, how have you mastered that over time? And of course, we can all be better and become better as men, as humans, but putting an emphasis on doing what you say you're going to do, how is that cultivated in your life over time? And what are some of the, you know, methods of productivity that you use? Which I think one of them is not being on social. To not get distracted in this world where there's so much happening and there's so many things trying to steal your attention. Yeah. What's that been for you?
I haven't mastered that. I wish that I could say that I have, but I haven't. And I still struggle with that as well. If I didn't have so many people relying on me, like employees and people working alongside of me, I probably would be a lot further behind, for sure. But that's probably what it is. I have people relying on me. But in. In all reality, like, I thought I wanted to be a billionaire when I was 17. I don't want to be a billionaire. I probably. I mean, I'll Be worth a hundred million dollars just because, like, the snowball, it's already too big. And it's like, I have time on my side, but I don't want all this money. Like, I don't. Like, I just want family. I want to have houses here and here. I want to have an escape plan. I want to have cars. I want to have a good life. I want to have experiences, but I don't want to have a billion dollars. Even $100 million is too much. Like I said, I know I will get there because I will continue working. But I don't care for it, to be honest. There was a point. I forgot your question. There was a point, though.
Productivity.
But I like this and why I'm bringing it up. And. Yeah, so actually, you asked, how did you master being productive? Productive. And. And the answer is, I haven't and actually struggle with it sometimes as well. And the only reason I'm able to keep going, not the only reason. One of the reasons I keep going is because I have people relying on me in my team, but also my girlfriend and them. But in actuality, I'm. I'm making so much money every day right now on autopilot that I don't have to be productive. I can sit in my bed and I can watch a TV show and not do anything, and I could still make 60 grand, like, in a week. And it's like, okay, yeah, like, I don't. Like, I don't have to be productive. So it's hard. It's really hard because. And here, I'll explain it. Can I. Can I, like.
Yeah, please talk more.
All right, so I'll explain it. What happens is you. You have a desire, and then you seek it out. You seek it out. You seek it out. You work, you work, work. And then, boom, you. You hit something, you strike gold, and your income skyrockets, and. And then you plateau because you reach a new level of. Of income where you can do things that you couldn't do before. So, like, as you know, I just bought, like, a new Urus, and it was like, I woke up and I was like, okay, I'm making way too much money. I should buy a car. And I just. I bought a car the month before, too. Like, a different car.
Congrats again, by the way.
Thank you.
I said at breakfast, but for everyone watching, congrats. Beautiful interior. I can't wait to see it in person one day.
Yeah, we'll have to go. We'll have to go get some coffee, and it's Sick. But I woke up and I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy Urus. And then, like, I made a phone call and I bought one and it was like I could. That was, that was definitely because I had an income skyrocket. But now I'm kind of in this plateau stage where I'm just like, I don't really care. Like, I couldn't be bothered. Like, I'm still working every single day. I have to. Like, I don't have a choice, but I don't feel like it. Like, I'm not like, like super, super motivated. Like, I was. Because I'm just making so, so, so much more money than I was before. And I know that eventually I'm at this plateau now. I just entered it. I'm going to plateau here and then I'm going to get comfortable. And then eventually I'm going to be like, okay, like, I'm bored. Let's. Let's go to the next level. So I think that just happens. You go up you plateau. You go up you plateau. You go up you plateau. So, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that's just.
Speaking of plateauing and just getting to points where you want it, whatever it be business relationship, to be more. Let's talk about relationships. I know we were having a great conversation at breakfast. I'm in a very committed relationship as you are. How did you meet your girlfriend? And as you said earlier, With 100% uncertainty, your future wife. How did you meet her and how do you think about relationships? Because I think as young men, I'm 22, you're 23, right? It's.
Yep.
For all the guys out there or girls, hearing two younger people have so much certainty about their relationship, I think is such a positive reinforcement of not only where society should be, but just the perspective is different. And I'd love to hear from you, you know, how did you meet your girlfriend? And again, like, where this thought process came from of your commitment and how other men can cultivate that in their lives.
Yeah. And I do want to say something. There's a huge, like, agenda in like, the young male culture, I guess, like college. Even on Twitter where, like, it's cool for dudes to sleep with a bunch of chicks. Look, I don't think that's, that's a good thing to do at all. Like, why you should ask yourself why you're trying to sleep with a bunch of, like, that's just weird. I think that's, that's just all that comes from insecurity. Like you're like, I'm trying to bag as many girls as possible. I think that's peak insecurity. And I think that something way more meaningful and way more important is to find a chick that will support you on your mission. Well, first of all, find having a mission, having something that you're going to do in your life, like your life mission as a man, and then finding a chick that is going to hop aboard your train and be like, I'm, I like, what this guy's doing, this guy's dope. I'm going to support him, I going to pick him up when he's down. I'm going to, you know, cheer him on when he's winning. Like, that's way more important and also having a mission. But those dudes that talk about like, oh, like I just met this girl and I bagged her the same day and that's very common and I know this is again, a little bit controversial that that comes from peak insecurity. And I fell into that as well when I was like 19. I was like, I need to be with more women. Like, I need to like, I thought it was sick to like have like a one night stand. And now looking back and I'm like, that's just so stupid. Like, that's just so dumb. Like, why? That's sex. Sex is one of the most, the most intimate thing that you can do with another human. And to just do it carelessly while you're drunk or like on drugs, completely out of your mind, just numbed to infinity with a stranger that you just met that it can't possibly mean anything with. Like, it's like, why, why would you take this, this beautiful experience and, and do it in this regard? Like, that's degenerate. That's disrespectful. That's like, I don't know, it's, it's just dumb. You can, I'm Christian, so like you can see where it's coming from. And, and this is coming from somebody that had lived through this phase of I need to sleep with a lot of girls because validation and I think it's cool. And I need to prove to all my friends and myself that I can do it. But I'm telling you that that's just peak insecurity. So I don't think that men should do that. And I'm here to change that message. I'm here to say that you shouldn't do that and that you should be very careful with that. Now how I met my girlfriend. Yeah, Yeah, I met my girlfriend is. I saw her. I was on Instagram and I saw, like, the Suggested tab, and I saw this chick, this profile picture, and she had a bunch of mutual. Romanian mutuals. Romanians are very culty. So all of our parents came from. They escaped a communist country together, so that, you know, that will bond people that really will. So they came here and they had a bunch of kids, which is me, and all our friends. And so we all know each other. Yeah, we all know each other and stuff. There's like thousands of us. And I saw that she followed a bunch of Romanian people. I was like, oh, she's Romanian. I click on her profile and I saw her and I was like. I was like, whoa. I was like, this is the chick. Like, this is her. I found my wife within five seconds. Within five seconds. I was like, yep, yep.
Wow.
This is it. 100. Which is why when you told me your story, I was like, okay, very interesting. Because you knew your girlfriend. You know, you were friends with her for. For months and months, and then you, like, got this attraction where after that. That trip that you told me about, and I was like, yeah, very different for me. Me, it took five seconds. Yep, this is her. I knew, like, that.
Well, when you say you knew, because there's so much in that for a partner, for a business endeavor like that. Intuition. What was it that made you feel that way?
I just the. I felt the energy through the pictures that I. I could. I saw her and how she. I just. I just read her energy through her pictures and her and just everything about her. And I was like, this is the chick I'm going to marry. I just knew it. I felt like I was in love with her from the first second I saw a picture.
So great.
She didn't know who I was. And I was like, obviously, there's. I want to tell you more to the story because it's funny.
I.
She actually. She actually not led me on, but she, like, didn't give me anything for three months. Like, I tried talking to her, and then I got her Snapchat and she didn't give me anything. Like, she didn't compliment me. I told you this for three months while I was being very flirty and very, like, hey, you know, whatever. Like, I want to this and that. She didn't give me a single. Pay me a single compliment. One thing she said was, I not going to lie. I like you in that shirt. Like, you look good in that shirt. Like, I like your shirt. That's a compliment. Three Months. And I remember it, like, that's how, you know, I remember it. But, yeah, for three months, I pursued her, and she just didn't give me anything. And then I was like, okay. Which was very different because I never really pursued girls. Like, I always kind of kept to myself, and if a girl really liked me, then I would entertain it if I liked her. Like, I always just kind of did my own thing. So for her, it was very different. I was, like, chasing this girl, and it was weird for me. And.
Yeah.
So three months goes by, and then I send her Snapchat, and she's like, well, to be honest, I, you know, I kind of see you as a friend. And I was like, nice.
Wow.
I was like, hey, why didn't you say that? Like, yeah, two months ago, you know, maybe, like, come on. Why'd you. I was pissed.
Wow.
But so I stopped giving her attention, and then when I stopped giving her attention, she came back, and then she started snapping me, so I started leaving her own open, and then she started snapping me. And so I. We Snapchatted, and then I was. I did this very quirky thing. So this is kind of funny. I'll tell you the story. Do we have enough time? Okay, I'll tell you the story. So I did this thing where she's. She's very hard to get. She's very reserved. Romanian girls are like that. And she's been approached by hundreds of Romanian dudes. And so I needed to stand out. I needed to be different. So what I did was when I got her attention again after three months, I was like, okay, look, since we're friends, and since you don't want to talk to me all the time, here's what we're going to do. We're going to set up a meeting once a month, and on this meeting, we're going to discuss everything. And she was like, huh? Okay. So I was like, what's your email? And I remember you did not do that. I did. I was in Mexico. I was like, what's your email? Or I wasn't in Mexico at the time. I was traveling with John. I was like, what's your email? And she sent it to me. And so I sent her a Google Calendar invite with Zoom meeting. And with a bunch of bullet points, I said, please dress professional. Please be ready to discuss what you did during the last month to discuss your future travel plans to Arizona. And then some other, like, sarcastic. And so I sent the meeting out a month from when I said I was gonna do that. And I Did. And then I thought about it and it was funny. And then we didn't talk. We didn't talk. And then, you know, that whole month. Yeah, barely. And then. And then I. Like, two weeks before, I sent her a reminder, I was like, hey, by the way, we have a meeting in two weeks. And then like five days before, she texted me. She's like, are you ready for our meeting? And I was like, became a thing. I was like, yeah, we're going to do it. And then we met over zoom. So, like. And it was just funny. It was like a joke. But I met her and then I was like. It was kind of like, I was like the boss. And she was like an interviewee. And I was like, so, like, how was, you know, your last month? You know, this and that. Like, I see that you have a nice outfit. You look very good, you know, whatever. And it was just funny. And ever since then, after, at the end of that meeting, because she was laughing and she saw my personality and I was laughing and being all, like, funny and stuff, she's like. She's like, maybe we should do these meetings more often. And I was like. I was like, you want my number? Like, you want to FaceTime me? Like, we can have them on FaceTime. And then we started FaceTiming more and more. And then eventually I went out and I drove out and I met her, and then it got very, very serious. And then now we're dating. So.
That is such a great story.
Looking back on it, she told me. She's like, I. She's. She was. Okay, this sounds bad. She had a lot of people Snapchatting her. Like, a lot. Like 50 at one point. Like. Yeah. And she said that. That really, really, really stood out because all the guys were saying, like, oh, we're going to get married this. And they all said the same thing. But that stood out to her and that is what made her really attracted to me and, like, want to keep talking to me because it stood out. So I know we don't have too much time.
No, I mean, that's such a unique.
There's more to it.
But yeah, it's such a unique angle that it worked.
Yeah, bro, you gotta, gotta. Very cool.
No, that's. I love the story. Very great to hear. And I think just, you know, as we wrap up here in the next couple minutes, hearing not only your approach, but the significance that you place on commitment, relationships, and how you Talk about on YouTube channel, I just want to say again, like, I have so much respect for it and I know everyone that's watching or listening. If you haven't already seen Sebastian's content, make sure you go check it out because how you are speaking about these things in your own way on your channel is phenomenal. And I think that to your point that you talked about earlier, it, it shines a bright light on, on what I believe is super important. So before we wrap up, I always like to end on not only a positive note, but an inspiring note because again, this conversation, we'll look back on it in two years and I know you will have grown so much, whether that's the house has grown and actually you're living there, it'd be great. And we'll, we'll check it out and we'll, we'll circle back then and do another pod someday. But what's your advice to that? I know you mentioned earlier specifically age 20 year old self, like what advice would you, would you give to your 20 year old self that's maybe stuck in a bad mindset that you know, doesn't have it necessarily figured out and you're just in that pursuit? Because I think there's a lot of people that may be listening now or in two years watching this that may be in that phase. And not to say you have life figured out perfectly, but you've made some incredible steps and leaps to get to where you are. And I think there's so much to learn within that and we covered a fraction of that today. But what advice would you give to that younger self and why?
I would say spend time with yourself and try to find out who you are. Because a lot, there's a lot of noise today, especially like with social media and with everything and a lot of people are left insecure and left without validation. And I think that people don't have an identity. I think people mirror what other people do in the world and I think people kind of just like hate the same things that everyone hate or love the same things that everyone loves. And you're left kind of like, like nobody. And so I think that as a man you should find out, you should just spend a lot of time alone and you should try to really think about who you are and what you like and what you don't like and what you want and what you don't want and try to build your life around that and try to take steps in that direction. Otherwise you're kind of just going to aimlessly walk around and, and get nowhere in life. And if you're unhappy and you want to be in A good mindset, or if you want to be happy, you need to think about the things that make you happy or the things that you would like to have, whether it be materialistic or a wife or whatever experience, whatever. You need to think about those things and you think about how to get there. And you need to create a plan, like a goal, and you need to walk in that direction every single day. But more so just really try to spend a lot of time alone and discover who you are and definitely get into the gym and do things that are painful and control your own suffering. So put yourself through suffering, controlled suffering. That's good for you. Whether that be doing something that's boring, like reading a book or going to the gym. And especially going to the gym because it's 20 bucks, 30 bucks a month, and you should be doing it and it's healthy. So put yourself in controlled suffering environments where you can learn, because that's when you do learn who you are is when you suffer and try to figure out who you are and what you want and then create a plan to go in that direction. Because so many people are just. I'm speaking from experience, right? This is like, my advice is biased because it comes from the lens of my own life, and this is what I struggled with. So this is why. It's my advice. It's my advice because I didn't know who I was and I didn't put myself through suffering like controlled suffering. And I needed to figure that out. So that's why I think people should do it if they don't. So, yeah, that's. That would be my advice.
Yeah, I love that. Well, Sebastian, thank you so much for coming the show. Before we wrap up, where's the best place where everyone can watch your content, stay connected with you? And we know now that you're not too active on social in terms of maybe YouTube watching. But where can they find you?
YouTube. Yeah, go check me out on YouTube. We're gonna. We're gonna post all sorts of content there. So it's finance content, drop shipping content. I posted a health. My first health video ever where I talked about how I got jacked in six months. I wasn't jacked, but I lost a lot of fat. I have videos, plan for masculinity. I have really special guests coming on my channel soon, so YouTube. And if you want to see some cool pictures, you can go on Instagram, but YouTube is definitely a better place.
Awesome. Well, everyone that's watching or listening, thank you so much for tuning into today's episode. Of course. Sebastian, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for if you haven't already subscribed or downloaded the podcast, make sure you do. And I will talk to you guys soon.
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