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Welcome back to the Rise of the Young podcast. On today's episode we have Trent Shelton here with us. Trent Shelton is a former NFL wide receiver who is currently the founder and president of a non profit organization known as Rehab Time. Trent has over 11 million followers on Facebook and over 2 million on Instagram and his content has been seen by hundreds of millions of people all over the globe. I was really excited to have this conversation with Trent because I've been following him for quite some time and his content has truly impacted me. So that being said, make sure you take a moment to share this with a friend. Screenshot this podcast, post it on your Instagram story, tag myself, tag Trent Shelton. And last but not least, make sure you subscribe and enjoy the show. What's going on everyone? KC Adams here. Welcome back to the Rise of the Young podcast. Today we have Trent Shelton on the show, the founder of RehabTime. Thanks so much for coming to show Trent.

Appreciate you, Casey man, thanks for having me.

Absolutely. So I've been following you for quite some time, man. You have so many value packed videos that have gotten millions of views online and I know the listeners have seen your content before, but I'd love for you to go into a little bit more about what rehab time is for those who may not know what that is.

Yeah, man. So the word, well the word rehab time came from really was just for myself and I didn't want to be a speaker. I didn't have a goal of creating content actually. I played NFL, lost my career there. I didn't retire, actually got fired, but got cut is a better word to say. And I lost myself, man, because I mean that was my dream since I was 5 years old. And so when I hit my low point, you know, I just told Myself, it's rehab time. And the word rehab for me meant, you know, coming from a sports background or just an injury in general, it means putting their strength back into a weakness. And I know the process of rehab as an athlete, like, I've been hurt before, and in processes, it sucks, to be honest. But if you, if you're patient and if you do it right, and if you trust your trainer, you can come back stronger than you were before you got injured. And so I took that mindset, mind, body and soul. So I knew I mentally, there are some things that I needed to rehab. Right. I wasn't into reading books at the time. I wasn't in the personal development, nothing like that. My personal development was hip hop and mind wise. So mind, body and body and soul. And so body wise is getting my. Getting my body in the best shape. Because at that moment in 2008 when I started this journey, I knew I had one year to. To prove myself in the NFL. So I said, you know what? I have one more shot. Let me give my all. And then the soul part was just getting my spirit right, man. Meditation, prayer. And that's how I started, man. And that's what rehab means to me.

Very cool. So I'd love to touch on the NFL part of your life. Cause for me, I actually got hurt playing football in sophomore year, high school. I was in a neck brace for like six months. And that's how I got into. Everything I'm doing now was through this injury. But I'd love for you to touch on your journey going into the NFL and what that transition was like in. And then also how, like you just said, how getting cut made such a transition period into your life and how you took advantage of it.

Yeah, man. So, you know, I tell people, with sports, every level demands some more of you, right? And usually it's not about physical ability necessarily, but it's about the mindset. So high school, to college, to professional. And so I was an undrafted free agent. I went to the Indianapolis Colts the year right after they won the Super Bowl. So Peyton, Reggie Wayne, Marvin, Harrison, all those guys were there. And I really learned what it took to be a professional at that moment. And. But the thing about it, what caught me up was the lifestyle, you know? Cause growing up, man, it's just, you know, you see success, and I want to show everybody I was successful. So now I'm around celebrities like my dream, like this is what it is. And not knowing that, you know, I'm hanging around guys whose contract was solidified you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still trying to prove myself. Is not for long. You can get cut like that.

It's done.

It's no guaranteed money. Yeah, I got kind of caught up in a lifestyle, man. And I stopped putting in the work that got me there once I got there, to be honest. And I still balled out, but things didn't work out. Injuries here and there. But I tell people all the time, man, the thing that separates people, you know, people who make it to NFL versus legendary people, is mindset. The Peyton Mannings of the world, the Tom Brady's of the world. These guys, talent wise, athletic wise. Peyton is not an athletic person when it comes to his mentality. It's crazy. I mean, he knows the game. He knows everything before it even happens. And you have to put in that work. And that's something that I wasn't willing to do at that time in my life, being a 21 year old. So it caught up with me.

That's fascinating, man. So with that transition, what was your transition in your life from getting cut to everything you're doing now? What was the process in between that?

Yeah, man, it was crazy because like I said, I never, you know, just by nature, I'm an introverted person even to this day. Doesn't mean I'm shy. I'm just always like, just a quiet person, just always thinking. And it was crazy because I never saw myself doing this. And so the transition was my rock bottom. And I tell people, you know, rock bottom, hopefully you don't have to experience it, but rock bottom can be a place where your life changes for the good. And my rock bottom was two things. And it was obviously me getting cut. But in that process of me in the NFL, my son Tristan, who now married to Maria, at the time that we weren't together, and that wasn't planned. And so immediately I said, you know what? Tristan is following my footsteps. And as a father, as a leader, you know, people are gonna follow you. My son is gonna follow what I do. And I wasn't happy with my life at that moment, so I said, okay, this is my sign to become a better man. So Tristan was the catalyst for me becoming a better man, or the motivation for me becoming a better man. And the motivation behind rehab time and me making videos about self worth and, you know, not losing yourself was my best friend commit suicide.

Wow.

And so it was my promise to him, at his service, that I would walk into my fear. I would walk outside my comfort zone. I live the rest of my life helping people know their self worth. If they lost something, they know that they can bounce back from it. Because I feel like he lost some things in his life and he felt like life wasn't worth living. So it was my promise to him. And that strong why has been able to carry me through.

Very cool, man. When would you, like, when did you start putting out videos on social media? Because now, you know, you almost have 2 million followers on Instagram, millions of views, and it's so funny. I'll actually, I'll send some of your videos to my mom and she'll text me like, yo, that was. I needed to hear that today. And I'm sure the same way millions of people hear your messages all around the world. Like, when did you start finding your voice to then go onto social media to build such a powerful brand?

Yeah, man, my first video was in 2009. So, you know, Facebook is my platform that, I mean, to this day is my biggest platform. But 2009 was my first video on actual YouTube. I actually saw it not so long. I was like, man, it's been that long. So that was the moment I had no idea I was doing. I look back and I kind of cringe at it. But I show people, you know, when I speak, like, I know you guys are comparing yourself to me and said, oh, I can never speak like that. Look at me. In 2009, I just started. I didn't know what any of this stuff meant. I was just sharing my heart. And I think that's where you start, man. You start with your story, you start with sharing your heart. And then you start to realize, because this was my more my healing came from, I started to realize that people needed my story. People can relate to me. And as they related to me, I'm like, man, it was actual purpose of my pain and it made me want to give more and more and more. And I just started recording videos after that. Managers became very consistent over the next, you know, decade.

Yeah, yeah. What's your most viewed view? Your most viewed video?

Yeah, so it came out last year. It's on Facebook. It's about close, like 200 million views. It's called everybody isn't everybody isn't your friend.

Yeah.

And that's my most. My most viewed video for the.

For the people that. For, you know, let's say there's a couple people that haven't seen it. I absolutely love the video. But.

Yeah.

What does that video mean to you and why do you think it went so viral?

Yeah, man, well, you know, when it comes to creating impact, because I don't want everybody to always think viral because I think when you operate from that, it's hard to create it. But the reason why I went viral and it's because it made impact and it touched, I feel like three things. It touched, you know, people's emotions in a way. You know, when you, when you touch people's emotions, they're gonna share it, right? They're gonna push it out to their people. And it also educated people about friendships and also was somewhat entertaining in that way. And I feel like when you touch those three E's, when it comes to content, it's likely that that content would go a lot further than if you didn't touch those three E's. And so it was environment for one. It was literally in my office kitchen. And the girl in the video is my sister in law. And we've had these conversations beforehand. Obviously the conversations on there were staged, but we had these conversations. And I knew that people are going to relate to it because everybody has dealt with, you know, a relationship where friendship has went sour. Everybody's dealt with hard times with friends. And so I think people related to it from the scenery to the words to everything. And I think that's why it went.

The way it went. Very cool. What's your advice to people that are going through hardships right now from whether that's relationships or with friendships? Because everyone goes through it. And especially in a time like this, with so much uncertainty with coronavirus and, you know, people are losing their jobs, like, how do you deal with uncertainty in your life? And what do you tell people?

Yeah, man. Well, I just focus on the things I can control and I let go the things that I can't. You know, I think we focus so much on the things that are out of our control naturally, as humans, because we want to be in control of everything. So I asked myself this simple question, like, what can I control in this moment? And I'm always thinking about my perspective. You know, when I look back in my life, in my hardest times, even when I still go through hard times, it's my perspective that carries me through. And the thing about perspective is that you're in control of that. And I know sometimes it's hard to have a power perspective, but I tell people, hey, your perspective needs to be your power, your prison. And so a prison perspective, you're seeing everything negative, right? You're like, oh, in this coronavirus situation, everything's going wrong in my life. That might Be true. But also, you can flip the script and say, you know what. What's going to be the thing that goes right in my life. So right now, I'm losing a lot. Like, I'm not speaking. I'm not doing any events, but I'm at home with my kids. You know, we're doing crazy stuff that we would never do before because we're having this time together. So I choose to always focus on the things that serve my life. When I'm going through hard times and I ask and I tell myself, this is going to build me and not break me. This is power. And when I look back, years from now, I'm going to say, this moment, and maybe it's my NFL credit, helped me because I thought that was the worst thing in my life, but it ended up being the best thing in my life. So. So I look back and say, this moment is going to be a moment where my life changed the most, and it grew something inside of me that nothing else would have grew. So somebody with relationships real quick. Like, if you're going through a bad relationship. And I trust me, when I lost my high school sweetheart, I thought my world was over. I'm like, oh, my gosh, my heart is fresh for sure. But now I have a beautiful wife, and it took losing those relationships to put me in the right relationship. So you always got to think like, that you're not losing something, right? You're actually maybe losing that thing to gain something else, to gain something better. So I'm always thinking about the better that's gonna come from that quote, unquote loss.

Very cool. You have three kids, right?

Yep.

How old are they? I'm curious.

Yeah. So, Marley, which is my baby girl? She is seven months. Then I have Maya, which. I don't know if you heard her. She was trying to come in here. She's three years old, going on four. And then Tristan, that's my boy. He's 11.

Okay, very cool, man. Congrats on all that. How has having kids changed your life as a man?

It's the greatest blessing. It's the greatest responsibility, because, you know, you are, you know, responsible, you know, for their life, for their mindset. You know, I say this quote all the time, and I have it written in my office. As a parent, you have to realize this. Your choices will become your child's consequences. And I'm always thinking like that. So I know the choices that I make today, that I make tomorrow doesn't just affect me. It affects my whole household. It affects My kids. And so I'm always thinking about them when I'm making my choices. I'm always thinking about them when I want to be lazy, because I know I'm setting a foundation for their life. And it makes me want to deal with my mess. Because what happens with a lot of parents is. And we see this over and over. We see cycles of generations, curses of cycles, and cycles of pain. And it's like if you had a baton in this relay of, like, your family history and your parents gave you a baton, that was negativity and pain. It's hard for you to play catch up.

Yeah.

So I said, you know what? I had a great father, had a great mother that I feel like gave me the baton in the lead, but I want to make it even greater. So I want to make sure that I keep furthering that lead for my son, for my daughters. I don't want to make sure. I don't want to have them, you know, falling behind off of my mistakes. And so I want to make sure I take care of my mess. So my mess isn't the foundation for their life. Because most adults spend their whole entire life trying to recover from their childhood, and I don't want my kids to have to go through that.

Love it, man. How do you deal with fear in your life?

Yeah, that's a good one. I go attack it. I really do, man. Because, you know, I feel like there's two types of fears. For one, there's a fear, you know, I don't know if there's, like a. A proper definition of it, but there's two types of fear. There's a fear, I feel like, that keeps you alive, right? A smarter that says you, like, don't do that or something's gonna happen. But there's also a fear that I feel keeps from everything in your life. And I came up with this. Well, I didn't come up with it, but I realized this while I was skydiving because I had a fear of heights. I had a fear of speaking. So I said, you know what? Let me go attack this fear. It was a gift from somebody that I didn't want to do it, and they bought it. We're like, you know, where do I get you, bro? Like, I don't know what to get you. It's like, this is what you picked. I tried to talk myself out of it.

Okay.

And I try to talk him out of it. Like, I try to look up the guidelines. I think you have to have a weight limit. I think it was like 2:30, and I was like 2:20. So I was stuff like that. I want to be like that dude that was scared. But to make a long story short, in the moment of being up there in the plane, I realized what fear is. And fear is creating a known result from a situation. Having experienced that. So what that means is that obviously I was afraid to skydive because I was telling myself I was going to the parachute. I was thinking of all the negative reasons, all the negative things that could happen speaking on stage. The same thing. All the negative things are going to happen. So I learned that if you change what awaits on the other side of fear, and it's something that's positive, something that's growing, something that's going to help you, you will go through fear every time. But if it's something that's limiting, something that's negative, you will never walk through that door. And so I deal with fear by just changing what awaits on the other side.

Very cool, man. So I would consider you someone that I look up to as a mentor when it comes to your public speaking career and how you've crushed it with videos and how you speak in such an eloquent way. For those who have that fear of speaking on stage and, you know, they didn't grow up with the best communication skills, what advice do you give them if they're looking to break through that barrier? Because, you know, it's like that quote, it's like the second biggest fear besides death is public speaking. Right. So what do you tell people that may have that fear of, you know, just speaking from the heart?

Yeah, so that would be the first thing I'll tell them. You know, coming from the heart will always help your story. You always find confidence in it. And that's why I see a lot of speakers start off with their story, because that's where they're most confident. You know, for years, that would be my go to because there wasn't a lot of things that I experienced in life at that time. So when you come from your story, you're always gonna be confident because you live that, you experience it. So I always come from a of experience, but also as a speaker, I would tell you to like anything else. The, you know, the killer to all fear is repetition. You know, think about it. You were afraid to maybe drive before. You were afraid to do a lot of things, but the more you actually did it, the less it became fearful. So every single day, because people might be like, well, Trent, I don't have a Stage to speak on. It doesn't matter. Speak to your cell phone. Like, record videos. Even if you never post it. Do like me. Every single day. If you literally would drive next to me in the car, you would see me doing a speech every day, because I know that that builds that repetition. The more I rep it, the more I become confident at it. So do that and go put in that work, you know, 10,000 hours, and just keep doing it and doing it and doing it, and you'll find confidence in it. And then you'll grow, you will learn, you adjust, you'll see what works, you'll see what doesn't work. And last but not least, as a speaker on stage, one of the things that always helps me is telling myself that I'm selfish. And I'll tell you why. If I'm worried about how I'm gonna sound, how I'm gonna look, I'm being selfish as a speaker. You're there to serve, and you can't be a servant if you're selfish. So I know if I'm scared, it's my ego. I'm thinking about me too much. And so I say, trent, stop being selfish. Go out there, be imperfect. You know, give yourself permission to fail. Give yourself permission to mess up and just go out there and impact lives from the most transparent and pure place. And every time I give myself permission to do that, I feel the overwhelming stream of confidence before I step on stage. So stop trying to be perfect and just go share your gift.

I love that, man. Can you talk to me about your book straight up and what that means to you and why you decided to write it?

Yeah, man. So that's just kind of the word that I've been saying for the last few years, man. It just came, you know, I'm just. Maybe it's just my language.

And it's your podcast, too, right? Straight Up. That's the name of your podcast, Straight Up.

And so what it means, man, is just that it's just real straight up, talk to the point, you know, no fluff. I just feel like that's just my DNA and what rehab time is all about. And this book is really cool. So my past book, the Greatest yous, I felt like it was for. It's an easy read, but I still feel like it was for a reader. You know, it's stories in there. And, you know, most kids, even myself, I don't like to read books. It's crazy. I write them, I like to read them, I like to listen to them. But I wanted to make something that was very familiar with my online content. And so when you pick up this book straight up, I'm being straight up about so many topics, about relationships, about your dreams, about fear. And literally, there's 12. 12 or 13 sections, and each section has about five lessons in it, and you can read a lesson literally in five minutes. And it's short, to the point. If you like my videos, you're going to love this book. This book is my favorite book so far. Like, I like it better than I actually like the Greatest Shoe. And it's for. It's for. It's targeted to young adults, you know, So I think you're gonna really relate to it and love it.

Yeah. What advice do you give to speaking on a young adult? So I'm 19, right? And like, three years ago when I got started on social media and just in high school, a lot of my friends, and still to this day, they don't know what they want out of life. They don't know what direction they want to go in. I've been blessed to find my path. But what advice you give to young adults who might not have their life laid out or to the point where they're just stressed out because they think they have this, you know, this time bomb running out of, hey, I need to figure my life out. What's your advice to them?

Yeah, man, you know, it's. That's a sticky place. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, none of us know how much time we have, but for all of us, you know, tomorrow has come for all of us. And so you have to find that balance of having patience but also putting in the work. And when it comes to discovering your gifts, I lay it out and I always tell people it's about a place of power. It's about a place of connection. It's about a place of even freedom that you feel. And so it took me. I love music. I love writing, I love rapping. At a point in my life, I still do. I still write lyrics. And I thought I would be a rapper. And obviously that didn't happen. But I started to realize, man, like, I have a gift of connection. I feel like I didn't have a gift of speaking necessarily, but I had a gift of connection. I knew I could just connect with people. And so I would tell you, don't ignore that calling in your heart. And I think we all have that. I call it like the shower moment. Like in the shower, you know, you sing in front of yourself and you sound terrible. Probably but you sing to the top of your lungs and then you silence your voice in front of everybody else. So it's like, if nobody was on this earth and nobody could judge you, what would be the thing that would make you feel most alive? And I would say, go pursue and do that thing. And even if it's not that thing, going to pursue that might lead you to what that thing could actually be.

Yeah. So I'd love you to take me back. What were you doing in elementary, middle, high school? Was it just football 100% of your time or bring us to, like, you know, the earliest sprint?

So it was all sports, man. I was actually better in baseball than I was at football. I quit because I got bored with it in 10th grade. I wish I would have never did that. I wish I would have never did that. But all sports was my life, man. Basketball, football, baseball. I grew up in New Orleans. Kenner, Louisiana. And, you know, it was outside of that, bro, it was just me having fun and competing with my brothers, you know, in every and anything. And so after, you know, moving from elementary school to middle school, I fell in love with music. I still love music to this day. So I dibbled and dabbled with that over time, man. And just. I've always been a creative in some type of way. I've always tried to be artistic, even though I can't draw, but be artistic in my expressions and things that I do. So outside of sports, I would say music was the bang for me.

Very cool. How often are you creating these videos that you're putting out? Especially the ones that are more like production style, because those are the ones where I look at it and I'm like, wow, there's such a creative element where I'd love to hear not only your strategy, but how often you're putting in time to create these type of videos.

Yeah, man. So it's changed over the last few years. I would say we were shooting for like once a week. But with me, if I'm not moved, I'm not gonna do it. And again, that's a sticky place because sometimes you have to push through it, right? You have to learn if, like, okay, am I just procrastinating? But if I'm not inspired, I can't do it. And so right now I have so much content from the past. We'll put out maybe like two or two or three a month, and it just depends. So, like, some of the videos we do where I'll be like, running and hiking, and we'll just put some B roll. That's easy, because I'm just like, hey, Shane, like, just come get some footage, and I'll just speak what's on my heart. But, like, the videos, like, everybody isn't your friend. Our friend spoken. Where we're actually shooting a video tomorrow. That takes a little bit more planning. So I'm at least trying to get out one a month for sure. But when I first started, it was like, once a week.

Very cool. What's your advice to someone that's looking to build their brand on social media in 2020 with, you know, there's so much noise, how do you stand out?

Yeah, you got to figure out what your. It's funny. I just did a podcast episode of this. You have to, you know, find your magnet. And I think a question that you can ask yourself that I've asked myself was in an industry in the space where there's so much noise, like, what's gonna be the thing? Or what's. What's missing from that space? So as a speaker, I studied the speaking game. I was like, okay, this is what's missing. As a content creator, I first started, okay, this is what was missing. And I felt like what was missing, you know, from what I saw was just a real, like, relatability and just being real and connecting. And so I, like, amplified that to the fullest. And even to this day, I have people be like, hey, why do you follow me? It's because, hey, man, your content is just real. And so I would tell people to ask yourself, what's missing from the space? And then ask yourself, what can you bring that's different? What's different about you? What's different about your personality? And you're like, well, I don't know. Ask people around you. Like, your magnet is the thing that brings people to you. And so we all have a magnet sometimes. It's the way we smile, it's the way we talk, it's the way we articulate. It's the way we educate. It's our passion. Ask people, like, what is it about you that stands out? And if you get a common answer, I wouldn't ignore that, and I would double down on that and try to bring that more out to the world.

Yeah, very cool, man. Do you have someone that was, like, an inspiration to you to dive all in on social before or what does that look like in your life? You know, like, mentor inspiration?

Yeah, I really didn't. When I started, you know, looking back, like, it wasn't anybody that I saw. I was like, oh, I want to, you know, do it like that because like I said, I didn't even know I wanted to do it. But as far as, like, content wise, you know, I'm inspired. Like Prince EA is somebody that. I love his work and that's a good friend of mine. I love his work. I love the way he pushes the envelope. I mean, there's tons of people from the personal development world, you know, John Maxwell tell people he was the first like, person. He was the first book that I picked up with personal development. And I fell in love with his work because how he articulates words and just his quality on leadership. And so, yeah, man, and then I'm a fan of. Honestly, I'm a fan of people that probably people wouldn't even know. And so I'm inspired by the person that nobody knows that's just artistic. And I'm like, man, like, I love what they do. So I'm just a fan of anything that inspires me.

Very cool, man. How has the situation happening in the world right now? Coronavirus affected you personally with having to stay home and how have you been able to adapt?

Yeah, man, it's tough. I mean, you know, my kids are here and we're just. Everybody's here. So, like the energy, you know, if you're around, you know, people 24 7, the energies are going to be different, right? People are going to get frustrated. And so I came up with, you know, just some releases that I'm doing. My family, you know, we're making sure we're walking outside, we're making sure, you know, we're moving our body, things like that. It's affected me business wise a lot. I mean, you know, even from a merchandise standpoint, my printer was down because he wasn't an essential worker. So we couldn't put out merch at that time. It affected me from the speaking career. I mean, it's affecting me financially because, you know, things that I have that people are a part of, obviously there's more important needs for them right now. So it is affecting me even from, you know, content and, you know, revenue from content. You know, advertisers aren't paying as much right now. So it's affecting me. But at the end of the day, I got into this to impact lives. So I know I can still do that. I know everything else will take care of itself.

So totally very cool, man. What do you do on a daily basis that keeps you centered and aligned with everything you have going on? You know, give us the daily routine. If there Is one.

Yeah, man. So on a perfect day like today, today was one of those days where I got up before the sun was up, went to the office. But people. People that know, man, they. They know I love to talk about protecting my peace. And that's what I call my time for myself, where I disconnect from the world and connect to my soul. And oftentimes it's in nature. I have a trail by my house. I'll go out in nature. And my promise to myself that nothing exists, you know, outside of these trails. And so that's where, you know, I have my conversations with myself. That's where I build my emotional intelligence. That's where I deal with the things I need. I set my intentions for the day, and that's what it is for me, man, protecting my peace. And I make sure that's priority, because when I don't do that, I'm not centered. And I'm not the best father, husband, coach, mentor, whatever title you want to give me that I could be. And I refuse to be less. And so I make sure I take care of that.

Very cool, man. I have one more question. Where we wrap up, man. Just. If you were to give yourself any piece of advice early on that you've experienced up to this point, what would you tell yourself?

If I was to give myself advice early on, what would I tell myself? The main thing would have to be, I'm just going, how it comes tomorrow. Stop tripping. Everything is going to be okay. Especially, you know, like I said during my time of 23, 24, where I felt like my life was over because the thing that I put so much effort into was over. And so now when I look back, I was like, man, I was worried about the wrong thing. You know, it was actually that setback was my greatest setup for something greater. So I would tell myself, man, stop tripping, breathe, meditate. Value your mental health more, and control what you can control.

Love that, man. Just to wrap it up, you have a lot of places people can follow you, and you have a lot of things that you have going on. But where is the best place for people to stay in touch with you? And what should they look forward to coming out from you this year?

Yeah, man, that's a great question. So I want to say, is your audience, like, young adults, mostly 18 to 25?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm not going to say Facebook.

Facebook? What's Facebook?

So I'm gonna say definitely Instagram. Right now, for me, I need to get better on YouTube, more consistent on it. But Trench Sheldon on Instagram, YouTube and then TikTok. I'm starting that right now. As you talk.

TikTok. That's what's up.

Yeah. So he. Trenchettelton on TikTok and just trying to figure out. I think I'm just being more creative on there, just having fun. And so things you can expect, man, is I made a commitment to myself this year that I would be more true to my creativity. And what I mean by that, it gets tough when it's like a music artist, right? Like when you create things that people love. Right? So like albums that people love, and it might not be your favorite album, but that's what people want from you. And I feel like with my. Like, with my career these last 10 years, like, I know exactly what people want from me, but that isn't always what I want to put out. And so I told myself this year that I'm gonna put out more of what's true to me, what makes me feel alive, what fulfills me, what challenges me. Even if people don't like it, you know, I'm gonna do it. So you have to tune in, man, to see exactly what that is. But we're gonna get into music, all these different things, avenues, film, and just try some stuff, man, and see how it goes.

Love it. Well, that being said, Trent and everyone listening, make sure you check out Trent. I'll make sure to link all the. His social media profile is down below. And that being said, thanks so much for coming on the show, man.

Thank you, bro. I appreciate you. Manar.

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