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In this interview excerpt, Kal Penn (Speaker A) recounts a powerful, unexpected emotional reaction while reading the novel The Amazing Adventures of Cavalier and Clay. He describes sitting alone on the stairs of his shared apartment, being overwhelmed by the story to the point of uncontrollable crying—something he rarely experiences when reading. The moment is framed as a visceral, new experience that contrasts with his usual reaction to movies versus books. The interviewer (Speaker B) follows up by asking how the book changed his life, setting up a discussion about the personal and possibly professional impact of the novel on Penn’s worldview, creativity, and emotional openness.

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