$60k/m closer vs "I'm Scared to Invest" (Live Real Sales Call)

You know, fearful putting down the investment, just, you know, being hesitant around actually investing again, just feeling like it's not going to work out, feeling like it's just going to be a waste of money.

Uh, hey man, can you, can you see me? Can you hear me over there?

Yeah, I can hear you. How you doing, man?

What's up, dude? Yeah, not doing too bad, man. Just staying out of trouble over here. How you doing?

Yeah, pretty good, man. Not too bad.

That's good, dude. Well, we can, uh, definitely dive on into it. Looks like you booked in about possibly getting some help improving your sales. Sound about right?

Yeah, exactly.

Okay, cool, man. Uh, just so we're on the same page, like, uh, what, uh, what made you want to go ahead and, uh, like book in the call today? Like, how can I help?

Well, I've been watching YouTube videos, um, a lot of cool reviews I've seen. And, uh, yeah, they've been super valuable. It's a lot of different things to do. So yeah, I just wanted to find out more.

Yeah, I'm not that cool, man. Like just focus on sales over here. I'm a pretty boring guy.

Right.

Uh, but, but in terms of like your improvement, right? Because everyone's a little bit different. Do you know what type of help you're actually looking for specifically?

I would say just overall my process of being able to kind of get problems better, pre-handling, that.

Yeah. So in terms of your process, if you take a look back at just how you're having sales calls right now, what are you seeing in those calls that makes you feel like you need to improve your process?

Well, I kind of struggle to get problems a lot of the time. I feel like it stays quite surface level with it all. Okay, okay. Yeah, go ahead. I managed to like go deep on some of it, but it's just like never any consistency. Like some calls I feel like I'm a bit lost.

Well, do you actually have a structure you're following or are you just winging it?

Kind of just using like what I've seen on YouTube from yourself.

Okay.

Yeah.

So we're just using some of like the basic YouTube stuff and just, like, you know, seeing what happens.

Yeah. With that and, like, I have a protest from a, you know, program that I've been in, but that one's a bit confusing to me and like kind of goes hand in hand with I'm getting lost with it.

Okay. And how long have you been doing it that way for? Just so I have understanding.

Probably around like 4 or 5 months now.

Okay. So we've been doing it a while and what exactly do you sell?

So right now I just sell a biz op, like a sales mentor shit.

Okay. So it's like helping people like get into sales or helping people like improve sales? Like what is it?

Get into it. Yeah.

Okay, cool, man. So then what do you feel like maybe Maybe something like you're saying, or maybe something like you're not saying, or it could even be like your tone that's causing people not to actually open up and give you the type of problems you really need to create that urgency. Like, what do you feel like we're missing?

Honestly, I think just asking some of the right questions to be able to expand the problem and go deeper. Yeah.

What do you mean? Like the right type of question?

So. Well, like I'll be trying to go deeper in the problem and oftentimes I'm just like not knowing what to say. Okay. How they could go deeper, to be honest.

Yeah.

And it's like, and I'm like, and I'm on my sales calls.

I'm not on yours. So I don't want to assume, but if we don't know what to say, we don't know how to get deep in the problem. What does this actually lead to? What does this cause in your sales calls?

Oh, yeah, a lot of, they think about objections where close rates haven't really been the best, uh, to be honest.

So yeah, well, what's, uh, what's not the best? Like, what are we closing at?

Honestly, 20% things are okay, 15, 20, 15 to 20.

Are we closer to 15 or are we closer to 20? You can be real with me.

Yeah, I can reduce it to 15 accounts.

Okay, so we're closer to 15. And if you actually had an ability to get to better problems, you know, create more of that urgency, of those, you know, 85% of people that you're not selling, how many do you feel like are actually closable? Like we could close them?

Um, you know, I'd say like a good few. Each week.

Well, what's a good few? Or like percentage-wise, like what do you feel like we could be doing? Like closing percentage-wise?

Oh, easily like that. Yeah, at least like double.

Okay. So when you're talking about like 30, help me understand, like how many sales calls generally speaking do you get each and every week?

Calling can vary. I would say probably getting around Just ballpark. A week, 15.

Okay. So 15 that you're actually talking to?

Maybe around like, yeah, 10 that I'm talking to.

Okay. So 10 that we're talking to. And how much is a deal actually worth to you commission-wise? I'm sure it varies, but just like average deal.

Yeah. Around like, we'll start paying for around like $600.

Okay. So it's like $600. Okay. So it's like right now we're making about like $3,600 like per month. Is that about right? Or like, what are we doing?

Not everyone pays in full. I would say around like on average closer to 2.

Okay. So what are we doing on average per month right now then?

Yeah, closer to like $2K a month.

Okay. So we're closer to $2K. And if we're talking about doubling your, your closing rate, then we're talking about getting to like $4K per month. So is that like your actual goal? Like what you feel like you could do or just the thing you want to say out loud?

No, I definitely want to be hitting way higher numbers. Okay. But it hasn't the most. Yeah.

So if you have the right skill, even on this offer, maybe like you move into another offer, like how much do you feel like you could be making each and every month? Like with the right skill, being able to pull out the problems and really, you know, digging deeper into it.

Oh, with the right skills, at least like $10K plus a month. Yeah.

Well, I mean, can I make a suggestion, dude?

Yeah.

And this is something that we need to be aware of, like not only for ourselves, but for our prospects. The way that, you know, a prospect talks to you as a salesperson is the way they talk to themselves. And do you want to know a word that I picked up that might be holding us back?

Yeah, sure.

At least.

Okay.

Okay. Because when we shoot for the least in life, like, what do we tend to get?

Around there, right? The least.

Yeah, probably. Yeah, the least, right? And again, I could be wrong, but you don't seem like a guy who just wants to do the least.

Yeah, no, definitely not.

Right. So be real with me. $10K is at least like, what are we actually looking to hit? Like, let's just say in the next 3 to 6 months, like what would we be looking to do if we had the right skills?

In 3 to 6 months, $15,000 to $20,000. Okay.

$20,000. Right. So right now, just because we don't have the right skills, we can't pull out the problems. We're getting all these fear and think about objections. We're leaving $18,000 like on the table each and every month. Does that, does that sound right?

Yeah. When you put it like that. Yeah.

Well, I'm not, I'm not putting it like anything. I'm trying to understand. Is that, does that number actually look right of what we're losing?

No. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. And ha, and have we been losing that amount the entire time or is this something that's like more recently we started losing more?

Well, it's been up and down, like my income, but yeah, the skills, it's been pretty, like on average, it's been pretty like that the whole time. Yeah.

So I do have to ask, man, you leaving that money on the table, not knowing what to ask, having a hard time getting to the problem, like what actual impact does this have on your day-to-day, like knowing we're losing all these deals?

Yeah, it's super frustrating. Like, I come off calls and, you know, sometimes—

Frustrated in what way though?

Well, I just like, I come off calls knowing that I should have closed some of them, and it's just— yeah, it's annoying. And, uh, just kind of sometimes dread calls, you know?

Dread calls?

Like, next day knowing you got a few, quite a few calls, but just not having a proper process in place, you can just, you know, kind of dread going into it.

Yeah. So you hopping on calls day after day, dreading the actual outcome, getting these objections— how does that actually feel on your end?

Yeah, shit, man.

Shit in what way though?

Yeah, just— it's not great. Like, it just doesn't feel great, you know, because like, if you're doing So much better. Yeah.

So is this something you're actually looking to change?

Yeah, I'd say so.

Okay. But why actually get like hands-on help to actually change that rather than just sticking with the basic YouTube stuff and just hoping and praying you can figure all this stuff out on your own?

Yeah, I mean, I would've started to figure it out by now by, you know, if that stuff had worked right.

Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. So like before, like we started talking, what have you done about actually getting like hands-on help so that way you could get to the $20K per month and stop losing out on all these deals?

Yeah, so I did invest, uh, in another program.

Yeah.

Like 5 months back.

Okay. And what type of results did we get from that program?

Well, got me on my first few offers, you know, just popped up. Where I'm at now, essentially.

Yeah. And so then what do you feel like is missing in that, that's like preventing you from being able to actually hit those bigger months and, and being able to really have better conversations?

Just a more detailed process, I would say, just like more support as well. Like more call reviews, just all of that.

And how long did you notice that that was the case, that it didn't have the, the process and the, and actual hands-on help you were needing?

For like the last 3 months.

Okay. So it's been 3 months that we've known this now. So what's prevented you in the last 3 months of actually going out and getting the hands-on, the support that you would need, that way we can actually start making the money we need to be making?

Uh, well, I mean, I've been just trying to make it work. Like, you know, I did invest fairly recently. So just been trying to squeeze as much value out of that. Yeah.

Well, it just depends on what your definition of like fairly recently is, right? Depends on where we're looking to go. But can I, can I share perspective on it, man?

Yeah, sure.

So if we knew for the past 3 months that what we're doing like hasn't been working, whose responsibility is it to go out and find a way to make it work?

Yeah, it's mine.

Right. And it's like, and I appreciate you taking the responsibility of that. And it just comes down to not the external. What do you feel like internally has been holding you back these past 3 months after we know this and we have the responsibility of going out and finding the hands-on help so that way we're not losing out on $18,000 each and every month?

I mean, I guess just like investing again, like I guess spending the money, like investing again, because I've— or even as well, I have felt that I should probably get onto like a better offer before even, yeah, like investing again.

Yeah, well, when it comes down to the offer, man, because we can, we can definitely talk about it, like let's talk about the investment. When you talk about like investing again, like where's your holdup?

Well, the fact that, you know, I already invested like 3 months or 5 months ago and yeah. Yeah.

And, and when you talk about improvement just in general, is this like a one-time, like I make a, you know, I just do one thing to improve, or is this gonna be like a lifelong process for you, like improving and getting better?

Yeah, lifelong process, of course. Yeah.

Like I would, I would assume so, right? But it's not so obvious, like we're having to have the combo, right? So if it is like a lifelong thing that we're going to do, is it pretty safe to assume like we're, we're not just going to invest in ourselves once, we're going to have to invest in ourselves multiple times?

Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

Okay. Why would you say that's safe to assume though?

Because you always want to just keep getting better, right? There's always going to be new levels.

Well, I'm talking about like for you personally, right? Like, why do you feel like for you it's safe to assume like we're going to want to keep on investing?

Well, you know, as I, I want to have a better and better skill set, right? I want to be able to hit higher and higher numbers, get on better offers.

So, so if we know that, that we need to keep on increasing our skill set, doing better numbers, like, be real with me again, because like, I'm on your team, I want to see you win, but in order for us to actually figure this out, we need to understand like what's been holding us back. So what's really been holding you back from pulling the trigger these past 3 months, knowing that we need to invest in ourselves again to continue to improve?

Yeah, probably like just the actual investment itself, like, like putting more money into it. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. So when it comes down to the money, right, it's not always about the resources we have. It's about how resourceful we're going to get. So if we know we're leaving $18,000 like on the table each and every month, Like what's preventing you from going out and getting resourceful, getting the hands-on help so that way again, we can stop really bleeding all this money?

Yeah, for sure. I'd say like just fearful putting down the investment, just being hesitant around actually investing again, just feeling like it's not going to work out, feeling like it's just going to be a waste of money.

Okay. And that makes sense. Right. And so I appreciate you being open with that, but can you see how you being actually fearful to invest in ourselves when we know that's the way that we're going to get better, has led you to be in the position that you're at right now. Are you okay with me saying that?

Yeah. Yeah. 100%.

Okay. So if we actually had to look at this, 'cause this is what's been happening at least for the past 3 months, what do you feel like this way of thinking has actually cost us?

Yeah, a lot of money for sure.

Do you mind if we do the math?

Yeah.

Okay. So if we're leaving out $18,000 on the table, let's just say 3 months, let's be conservative. Then we left $54,000 on the table these past 3 months.

Right.

Does that, does that number sound right?

Yeah.

Okay. And I'm sure you could probably do with an extra $50K in your bank account. You know what I mean?

Yeah. 100%.

So I have to ask, is that way of thinking moving forward worth keeping if we actually want to change?

No, definitely not.

Why not?

Because gonna have to actually get better, gonna have to keep improving, right? And actually, yeah, stop leaving money on the table. Yeah.

And it's like, and the only reason I ask, man, because I can give you the perfect diet plan in the world, but if you don't actually have the right mentality to attack it and to use it, what type of results are you going to get?

Not great. Nothing.

Right. So it really comes down to, yes, getting to $20K per month, it is going to be learning the skills, asking better questions, but on some level it's going to be being a better person. Because if you're making $20K per month, dude, like you're going to have a different level of confidence about you. You're going to have a different level of authority about you. Do you get what I mean?

Yeah.

It's just right now we're that guy who is the $2K per month version of ourselves. Like, is that right?

Yeah.

So at that, it's like, are you okay staying that person who you have been? Because if you are, I'm the first one to tell you, dude, just keep doing what you're doing.

Yeah, no way. Okay.

And when it comes to growing into the person who we need to be, Naturally, we need to let things die off. So what do you really need to let go of in order to shred this $2K per month version of ourselves and grow into the $20K per month version of ourselves?

Yeah, just the hesitancy of investing again this year. Yeah.

Yeah. Why that one though?

Because I got to get better. Like the skillset needs to improve, obviously, what's not working at the moment.

Yeah. I do have to ask, because this is the reality that we're looking at right now. If we stay that $2K per month version of ourselves and we hold onto this hesitancy, then a month, 2 months, or even through like the rest of your life, how's that gonna feel?

Yeah. Horrible.

Horrible in what way though?

Just, yeah, I feel like I'm just not being fulfilling my actual Pensual, I'd just be so average. Yeah.

You don't want to be the average guy, do you?

Yeah, no way.

Okay. So help me understand, right? Because having a number in mind of like what we're heading towards, like that's important, but it's not the actual number. Nobody walks over broken glass just to see like numbers increase in their bank account. It's what that number actually does for you. So for you to get to the point where it's like you're going from $2,000 to $20,000, that's 10x income. No small feat. What actual difference in your life does that actually make? Being able to make $20K per month?

Yeah, a lot of difference. I definitely move out. So, move out from home, be able to do more for my family. Okay.

Move, move out, right? Like that's a, that's the first thing you said. It's in the front of your head. Okay. So I assume it's pretty important. Why move out?

I would just be able to change my environment, like be able to, okay. Yeah. And environment with other like-minded people. Okay.

Well, why is that important to you, man?

Yeah. For growth ultimately. And just getting out of the UK as well. UK is a bit depressing. Yeah.

What? Depressing?

Yeah. I mean, weather, everything. Mindset, people here. Yeah. Yeah.

So then for you. You being able to like get out, be around more like-minded individuals. Um, like where do you feel like that drive comes from to want to go ahead and do that?

Hmm. Oh, same drive for like wanting to get into sales, make a lot of money, just kind of being able to grow, like not be average essentially.

Okay. Yeah. But where do you feel like that drive comes from to not be average? Cause everyone's a little bit different of like what, what truly actually drives them.

Yeah, it's probably like my childhood, like, okay. Without wanting to, yeah, wanting to, you know, make my parents proud, like live a more extraordinary life. Yeah.

And when you're talking about like making them proud and being able to be out on your own, like, do you know where you'd go?

Probably like Mexico, somewhere, somewhere in Montego Beach.

Hey, why there?

Just the nice weather. Uh, okay.

Yeah.

Just being in the sun.

Wanna have some sun, right?

Yeah. Love the living.

Yeah. Yeah. So then, then help me understand, dude, like you being able to like go to Mexico, really be able to be out on your own and prove to yourself like, hey, I'm, I'm not average. Like what does that actually do to you?

Um, Like personally, I feel fulfilled. I feel, yeah, I feel like I made it, essentially. Made it or started to, you know. Yeah, I feel free and feel like, um, yeah, yeah, essentially.

Yeah. So if you had to picture it, dude, like you being out, like you go to Mexico, you're on the beach, you have your own nice place. Like you actually feeling the sun, right? I know you don't get it in the UK, but you feeling the sun in Mexico. Like how would that actually feel?

Yeah. Incredible. Incredible. Feel free. Yeah. Yeah.

Would it?

Yeah, I'm sure it would. Yeah.

The tough thing, dude, is I, I do have to ask, with what you are currently doing, If nothing does change with our skillset, how we're conducting these conversations, what's the likelihood in the next 3 to 6 months you're gonna be able to actually feel the sun in Mexico?

Not very likely at all.

Why not?

I mean, yeah, I mean, don't see it getting better. I mean, maybe, yeah, don't really see it getting better, to be honest.

Yeah, could be trouble. Can I share with you a quick story?

Yeah, cool.

Yeah, because dude, I can see a lot of myself when I was like 6 years ago now, because I'm old as fuck, when I was first getting into sales of like where you're at. Because when I was like first, first getting into sales, like my, my main driver was to get out of Kansas, right? It is cold and I wanted to go ahead and like move to Miami, but obviously you need money to do so. So I had gotten into sales and like, I was trying really hard. I was just super inconsistent. And because of that, it kind of put my dreams on where I wanted to go on hold until like I found somebody who seemed like they had it figured out. Right. They seemed like, okay, this guy knows what he's talking about. I feel like I can learn from him. This was a while ago. This was like during COVID So there wasn't like the, the high ticket space wasn't built out like how it's built out now, or it's like, it's a lot more structured or different things along those lines. Basically, you'd find somebody in on the internet, if he seemed cool enough, you'd give him some money, right?

Yeah.

So I hopped on with a call with him and he told me, yeah, in order to work with me, it's going to be $20,000. As you might imagine, just being a broke guy right out of college, the whole world is shutting down. I did not have $20,000, but I knew if He had payment plans or different things like that. Like I could figure out how to make it work. And I had to sit down and had to have the conversation with myself of like, hey dude, if you don't do something about this, if you don't actually invest in yourself, if you don't eliminate everything that's holding you back, you will regret it for the rest of your life. And I went ahead. He did have payment plans, luckily for me. And I invested. I did not tell my girlfriend at the time.

right?

Even though like I was the only one working, 'cause like she couldn't work 'cause the world was shut down. And yeah, I did it. And because of that, that one decision, and it's like I've invested multiple times since, but because of that decision, I was able to move to Miami and never actually have to worry about money ever again. And it wasn't always what I was running towards that really drove me, 'cause I knew what I was running towards. Like I wanted, like, you know, like you said, a nice place, different things along those lines. It was really what I was running away from that constantly drilled in my head that motivated me to push forward because I, I really knew if I didn't do something about this, if I didn't figure this shit out, if I didn't give it my all, like I was gonna have that pain, the same pain that my dad had in his voice. Every time growing up as a kid, telling me I couldn't have something. And the same pain that he has in his voice to this day of all the risks that he should have and could have took, but he didn't take because he was hesitant. So I have to ask you, like, what happens if you don't do this? Like, what happens if you hold on to this hesitancy for the rest of your life and you're never able to actually live that full life that you know you truly deserve.

Yeah. I mean, I, I just feel average. I just feel like I would, yeah, I would just feel like I'm, that's what it comes down to. Just like that fear of being average and it's just not a feeling that I would wanna continue to feel, to be honest.

What would the, what would the day-to-day impact though, being, having that feeling every single day, 3 to 6 months from now?

Yeah, just daily frustration and just like stress. It's like, I mean, just leads a bit depression to be honest. Yeah. Um, yeah.

And I do have to ask, if you wake up tomorrow and you look in the mirror knowing you chose to be average even for another day, how is that gonna feel?

Yeah, pretty shit. Okay.

Is that something that you're willing to allow to happen? 'Cause it is a choice.

Yeah, no.

Why not?

Just cuz I don't wanna just kind of reach the point of enough is enough, to be honest.

Yeah, but why, but why do it now? Like, why not be like everyone else who tends to like just push shit off, like New Year, new me, and just try to do this later?

Yeah, I've already pushed it off in my mind. I've already just pushed off too long.

Okay, so you're willing to actually draw a line in the sand, step across it, and just say enough is enough.

Yeah, I'd say so. Okay.

You seem pretty serious about it, man. Because I mean, based off what you're telling me, especially when you're talking about like digging into problems, being able to deal with these, think about it, fear objections, like what I do would, uh, would definitely work for you. So if it helped, man, I can take you through exactly like how it works and how it's structured. Would that help?

Yeah, no, definitely. I love that.

Okay, cool, man. First and foremost, um, how'd you feel about the, uh, the sales process?

That was pretty good. It felt, um, felt smooth, felt, felt natural.

Yeah. Do you feel like we, we got deep into some problems?

Yeah. Yeah.

I'd say so. And why that's so key is like now what I have is leverage, right? And leverage is one of the biggest tools that you're gonna need in your sales conversations. Cuz if you don't have problems, if you can't get people to open up, when you get to the end of the sales conversation and they're like, oh, I just need to think about it, right? You don't have anything to actually pull on. So that's the main issue. Like that's why you need to go ahead and get problems so that way you fully, number one, you fully understand them, you gain authority and you gain leverage. That's what we need to focus on. Okay. So how we're gonna go ahead and do that, can you see my screen here?

Yeah.

Okay. So how we're gonna go ahead and do that is, um, So to go ahead and get the help, it is going to be $8,000 for, okay, 4 months. And that equals you getting to $20K per month. Okay. So it's going to be broken down into 3 main pillars. Number 1 is going to be the game plan and the structure, because right now You're saying like, hey, I don't know exactly where to go. If I get any type of pushback, get people to be open, objections, we're having a hard time knowing where to go. And the issue with that is if you don't know where to go, then when you're leading prospects, especially, we're going to get a lot more resistance, number one. And number two, we're not going to have leverage. So what I give you is the full structure that I took you through today in terms of being able to get people to be open. But also being able to leverage people's identity, right? Identity in the NLP pyramid is the highest leverage that you can get on somebody in terms of getting them to move. Because if you're able to get them to admit that their current identity is not anywhere close to where they want to be and they want to be this other identity, their beliefs and their actions, everything else follows suit because they need to be this new person. Does that make sense?

Yeah, that makes sense. Okay.

Now understand something. What most, uh, what most programs out there do is they just give you a structure and they haphazardly tell you to learn it. The issue is with that is if you try to learn everything all at once, or there's not a structured way to learn it, we're going to have a hard time. Our sales are going to dip. We're not going to be confident. So what I'm actually going to give you is a detailed roadmap on how to get to the point where we're making the $20K, the $30K, the $40K, the $50K, all those other testimonials you've seen, they've all gone through this process.

Okay?

So you'll have the exact roadmap on what you need to improve on your calls. Okay? You're gonna have the exact roadmap on what you need to improve outside of your calls, upsells, referrals, everything along those lines, making sure you're not only talking to 10 people per week, right? We need to increase that through our activity. And then a detailed roadmap on what to actually do to improve our lifestyle to make sure we're making as many sales as humanly possible. None of this is left up to chance. None of this is a guessing game, and it is detailed and structured so that way you never have to guess what I need to learn next and what do I need to improve next? Does that make sense?

Yeah, God, it makes sense.

Okay, cool. Now the game plan is super key, but you're obviously going to have questions on it. So that's where the, the coaching calls are going to come in place. Okay, so what they are going to be, they're going to be 4 times a week and they're going to be small group coaching calls. So they're going to be over script structure, objection handling, call reviews, and Q&A. So you're going to hop on these sessions every single week, right? 4 times a week and get your questions answered. They're always going to be very small, very intimate. So that way everyone gets their questions answered. I'll stay on as long as I need. But time kills all deals. So you want to be able to get feedback very frequently, and that very frequent feedback allows you to improve much quicker. Okay. So what that means for you is, you know exactly what to do with the game plan, but how to actually make sure it is specific to you with the coaching calls. With me there?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, cool. And then last, and this is probably most favorite, is going to be accountability. Oh, if I can spell. And one-on-ones. Okay. So before we do get to that point, man, are you actually open to being held accountable? 'Cause I know some people aren't.

Yeah, no, 100%. Definitely am.

Why though? Right? What, what, why are you open to being held accountable?

It's helpful at the end of the day, you know, helps get more out of you.

Exactly right. So at the end of the day, like I'm a coach, I'm here to tell you what you need to hear, not always tell you what you want to hear. Okay. So I just want to make sure we're on the same page about that. So how I'm going to help hold you accountable is we're going to be hopping on one-on-one sessions every two weeks. Okay. So, uh, one-on-one. Okay. Every two weeks. So what we'll be doing is we'll have 1-hour deep dives on whatever is holding you back that is preventing you from making more sales. So at the beginning, it's going to be things along the lines of like how to get deeper in problems and how to actually handle these objections. But like, as we get further along and as we improve, like this is going to shift and meld to you. So these are going to be very, very specific and very detailed on whatever is actually holding you back. With that as well, you'll also have access to me on Slack.

Okay.

So any questions that you have, you can go ahead and shoot over a message to me on Slack. And I also have AI Christian that has been trained on every single sales call I've ever done, every single framework I've ever done, every single training video, YouTube video, Instagram, like whatever conversations I've ever had, any type of words I've ever spoken is in that AI. So that way, again, if it's late at night and you really need a question answered, you're going to pop in your question to Christian AI so that way you get it answered. So what that means for you is you have somebody who's in your corner who's going to customize everything to you and make sure we're holding accountable to what's actually going on. Any questions on how that works?

No, that, that would make sense. That sounds good.

Okay. So do you feel like with what I laid out here, like this will get you to a point where you can make $20,000 per month?

100%. Yeah.

Why do you, why do you feel like it would?

Just the level of support, like the level of, you know, the one-on-ones, the coaching itself. But like, you know, whatever I need, I'd be able to get it solved. Yeah.

Cool, man. So then the, the next steps are pretty basic, right? We go ahead, we, we take the investment, like the $8,000, and then we get you set up with your Slack, your school, and your onboarding. Any questions on how that works?

So, uh, would there be like payment plans available, like for the $8K?

Yeah, potentially, right? It just depends on what works best for you. Is there any particular reason why you ask?

Yeah, I probably have to do, like, speak to family a bit, see if I can get some help with the investment.

Okay. Well, like, real quick, man. Like investment aside, like, is this something you would actually want to go ahead and do?

Yeah. Yeah, I'd say so.

Why would you want to do it though?

Just because I, I know I need training. I know I need the skillset. Yeah. I need the skill.

But why actually invest in yourself to get the skillset? Like, that's the important why we need to have.

Yeah. To actually start making more money, like actually. So, yeah, that's why I have at least these $10K months.

Yeah. So it comes down to, for you, cause like the money part, that's the easy part. We can figure that part out. Are you actually committed to change just to do whatever, whatever it takes?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So if we're committed to do whatever it takes, bills, expenses aside, let's not focus on what we can't do. Let's focus on what we can do. Like, what are you actually working with right now that you could put and invest in yourself?

I could do half. I could do half of it.

Okay. So we can do 4K?

Yeah, I can do half.

Okay. So if it'll help, man, we can do 4K now and then 4K in 30 days. Do you think like that would work?

It should. Um, I, I'll, I need to see if I found out. I reckon I get it done. Yeah.

Yeah. Can I make a suggestion, dude?

Uh-huh.

So if we're planning right now to come into the program and pay it off, just making the exact same money we're making right now, that is the exact opposite reason why you're joining the program. Okay. If we're expecting our income to stay the same, dude, I'll tell you, just don't do it. So what we need to do is just worry about the first investment and then come in and put in enough work to make sure this program just pays for itself. Is that something you're willing to do?

Yeah. No, 100%.

Okay. So if that's something you're willing to do, then we could do $4K and then we'll plan for $4K in 30 days. If for whatever reason we're a little bit short, just let me know. Okay. I can be flexible with you and I'll be in your corner.

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Okay, cool.

That helps.

So would that work?

Yeah, that, that helps. Cool.

Okay. Would that work? Like you can go ahead and just do the 4K?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, cool. So I'll just need a little bit of info from you and then we can get you all set up.

All right. All right, man.

Cool, cool, cool. Now, hopefully that sales call was helpful and you got some really good takeaways from it. And if you want my help to work with you one-on-one on how you can double or triple your sales, Check out the first link in the description. Otherwise, just leave your biggest takeaway in the comments and I will see you guys on the next video.