A short recorded conversation between two speakers reflecting on movements, legacy, and personal influence. The speakers contrast talking about business versus talking about a movement, and emphasize impact on people's direction and on culture, business, art, and fashion rather than raw scale or numbers.
Chapters
I don't really talk about my business. I talk about the movement. And you, too, are talking about the movement. You know that it became a movement, and you were involved. You were one of the leaders of the movement.
When I think about the legacy and the impact that I want to have, it's how many people did anything that I put out, how many of them were sent in a different direction because of something that I did or said. So rather than thinking about scale. So it doesn't matter if you had a hundred thousand people or 100 million people, it's more about for the short period in which you were here, which might be a year, it might be a lifetime, what is the impact that you had on culture, on business, on art, on fashion, whatever it is that sends people in a different direction.