Simon Sinek and Rory Sutherland talk about why joy and hope matter for fixing what's broken in culture. They argue optimism isn't naive, it's the only way to actually change things.
I'm a huge fan of your work, which, you know, you are so driven to contribute to the community and the places in which your work shows up. And what I particularly love is you're leading this movement to make the world a little more unboring things.
Being boring isn't just boring. It's actually like a cultural revolution that's stripping us, actually, of our humanity. I think we all know there are huge challenges ahead. And without joy, you can't solve problems unless you have hope and optimism. And that's why I was looking forward to talking to you as well, because I know, actually, underneath it all, your big drive is to find that hope and culture, to me, is actually, it is hope. That's what it is.
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