Rewired! (not retired) and On a Mission with Saket Jain!
17 Jul 2023 · 36 min
Saket Jain left management consulting to build passive income through syndications and venture funds while funding education programs in India. He structures his investments to generate recurring donations for nonprofits and treats family time as non-negotiable.
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Good morning. I am Robin Binkley with my partner, Courtney Moeller. We are Ladies Kicking Assets. And. And today we have the amazing Socket Jane with us. He has this phenomenal business called Migrate to Wealth. He has been involved in so many different backgrounds. But before we talk with Socket, we just want to remind you of a few things. We are not advisors in this area. We. We ask that you consult your CPA and your legal team for anything that we discuss. We've just had a wealth of experience among the three of us, and I imagine that you can probably glean some nuggets from us. We also ask that you'd like and subscribe to all of our business lines, especially to Ladies Kicking Assets and spread the word. So, Socket, welcome this morning. Courtney, I'm so excited that we have the chance to talk with Socket. We know Socket from a mastermind group, and we'll probably dive into some personal things, but I'd love for you to share with us presently what projects you're involved in, and then let's kind of navigate backwards and talk about why syndicating and all the things that you're involved in. So welcome, welcome.
Well, thank you. Thank you. First of all, thank you for having me here. I cannot. I just spent, what, five days with you all?
Yes.
And I just can't have enough time. Right. So this is perfect. My wife's like, who are you talking to now? You just came back from Toronto, like two.
My friends. My friends.
I think over the last five years, I spent more time with you all than. Than my family. So this is perfect. This is now extended family. So thank you for having me here.
We are.
I'm glad. I was waiting for the invitation. It finally came. So to answer your question, Robin, what we're trying to do is really, you know, a little bit background on my journey. I am a consultant, management consultant, recovering consultant, as I say. I used to buy businesses for my clients and kind of help them fix them up and then sell them. That's really what my focus was. And what I started to realize was that there's so much money on the other side of the table and there's so much goodness that can come from that money. Not that they were not good, but they were not helping the world the way I wanted to help the world. So there was a disconnect there. And then eventually I got laid off, which is the best thing that ever happened to me after my wife, that I actually got laid off, which was. Which opened my eyes to this false sense of security that we all live in. But I've since realized this paycheck is not security. Paycheck is consistent income, which is two different things.
Yeah.
It can end any moment, that stream of income. So since then, I've been on a journey for creating my own passive wealth. Most recently I was with Airbnb. I've spent about five, five years there leading their business operations, practice. And then along the way, I've built a portfolio of apartments multifamily investing. Last December was my Last day at W2. December 2nd. So now congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. We're definitely now it has completed my assumptions of quitting the job and switching into this world was very different. I thought I'll have way more time. But somehow filled it all up for all the right things this time. Before it was just meetings. Now it's all the right things. So now fast forward. I have learned. I think we were talking about it during the mastermind, the gap in the gain. Right. Yeah. I can focus on where do I need to go. Yeah. What I. What I want to say is that. Perfect. Yeah. That's a great book.
Yes, it is one of my favorite books.
Right? Correct. So I was going to the phase that I have a lot to learn and I have a farther to go. But what I forgot about was there was a conversation me and my wife were having is what if something happens to me? Right. Because I lost my sister two years older than me to Covid and life is fragile. So we don't know. We're talking about what's my legacy to my kids, my daughter. I have two daughters as. So we're like, you know what, let's just record everything. They may hate me right now or they may love me right now, but they're not gonna listen to me. What I'm trying to tell them is it too. They're not that at age. I don't think they're at that age. And maybe they are. I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna wait for them to be ready. I'm just gonna share whatever I know. And at some point in life, if I'm around or if I'm not around, they have something to listen to. And this would be my way of leaving my legacy for them. Right. So that's really how the podcast started, the migrate to wealth. And that has now evolved into a lot of different things. And for from in terms of the syndications we have, we just launched a venture capital fund. We're closing the first investment in the next two hours here. So we're Excited for that. Oh my gosh, rental fund. We have other syndications going on. So as I said, life's great, life's busy, but this time it's for the right reasons.
Love that. And you know, we have to go down these different paths and things to figure that out. You know, I was talking to somebody else the other day and having a conversation about what has led me to where I am and I always sit there and think, you know, gosh, I wish I would have figured out all of this, you know, syndication and investing stuff, you know, 20 years ago, but I don't know, I don't know that I was ready for it 20 years ago. You know, I wasn't perfect. Yeah, nobody is.
Right? I mean I, life, I, I, I asked a question during, on my podcast. What is, what would, what insight would you give a 20 year old self? Right. People have insights, but no one has ever told me I would change everything I do.
Yeah.
Or I did. Right. No.
Well, I think as we grow and evolve and you know, just like you talked about this, you know, five day mastermind and you know, when you surround yourself with the different kind of people and it's, and it's, it's fun. I had, I was at a different mastermind this last weekend and it really does affect, you know, the people you hang out with and spend your time with really do have such a major impact. And Dustin Bailey at one of our masterminds talked about, when he talks about quitting his job and raising capital, his friends all think that he's crazy and, but when he comes into these groups, you know, we had some people announcing that they had quit your job and we're all cheering and that is so not a normal reaction.
Oh, it's not, it's not. As my wife says, you go there, you join a cult and you're part of multiple cults and you pick up new things from different cult then you, then you try and share. I'm like, I, I think it's time for you to join the same cult that I'm in. It'll be interesting conversation, I think, I.
Think more than anything, you know, cult might be a good word to use, but you are with people who aren't afraid to, to go against the grain. And the grain is like everything from what we see on the news to what's being taught in schools and the three of us could talk on and on and on about that. But I think it's really beautiful when you know what you stand for and sometimes you've had A little fear to step out in that. And you find people are really out there embracing that and being very successful. And it's like, oh, wow. Okay. I'm gonna embrace this fully and use my platforms, my voice, to spread that message in my life, my personal life, my work life, my spiritual life, you know, amongst my other friends. And. And those folks that don't align with you, they'll sort of filter off. And that's okay. That's okay.
You know, and I think. I think sometimes the pruning is needed. You know how one of my mentors. I think it could be Russ or I can't remember who gave me. The plant grows with pruning. You got to prune.
Yes.
Right. You have to prune. Otherwise you're going to stagnate. And until you do not, that doesn't mean you cut people off of life completely. Yeah. You just kind of. You grow. You grow. New routes, you go in a different direction.
Right.
And that. What do they say your net worth is? Your network is your net worth.
Yes.
Which is very important. Where we were talking about who you hang out with. I remember we were talking about. I. I said something during the mastermind, saying, I want to do this. You know, one of the quantum persons. Why do you want to do this? I actually haven't thought about why do I want to do this.
I know what we're talking about.
Yeah, exactly.
I do. I know what we're talking about.
The challenge. And the challenge in a supportive way. The challenge is not in a critical way. No, it wasn't asking the question. As somebody who can. You can bounce the ideas from, like, I don't know what I want. Help me figure this out. I know where I want to go, but I don't know why I want it. So let me. Let me go deeper into that question.
So that's really important.
Yeah. And sometimes it just takes a little while to figure that out. You know, when I went to.
People know it off the bat.
No, no. And it's kind of funny. Literally, over the course of this last few days, I have really gotten very clear on my personal mission. And my personal mission is to keep a billion dollars out of the hands of the irs. Um.
Awesome.
But it has taken me two years to really get that figured out and like that and. And really hone that in. And now, you know, I've kind of been. I feel like I've just kind of been all over the place. A little bit of shiny object syndrome, because I want to do so many things and be a Part of so much, but it was really trying to get clear. And it's funny, they talk about getting clear on what you are trying to accomplish. And I have literally finally had that light bulb go off. You know, Robert Helms talks about, you know, you just one day you kind of, you see things and you see it differently. And that has literally just happened to me within this last like three days. Courtney.
Yes.
Good for you. Good for you.
Thanks.
Clarity.
That is critical. Clarity.
Yeah.
I've been praying for clarity and it's really just hit me and, and so now, you know, I'm going to be able to really focus like, okay, this, this is my miss is what I am setting out to do. And it's going to be so much easier for me to figure out when these different opportunities arise and present themselves. Is this going to help me further that mission?
Yes, exactly. Exactly. I think we've all probably, you know, in our business lines kind of. I don't want to, you know, you said shiny object syndrome. It's like all these different projects and deals are great, but does it, does it fit in my wheelhouse and can I fully support it with the direction that I am working my business to go with the lives that I'm trying to reach out and, and touch and make differences in? So once that.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
So saying no more than yes is important. Is important. And knowing that it's okay, you know, to say, say no. Well, Socket, I want to circle back to your girls. I know that you're a very busy businessman and you have a really supportive wife. But I also know that you are like super dad and highly involved in the lives of these beautiful seven and nine year old girls. Right.
Right.
So how do you, how have you kind of set some boundaries with work so that you can be dad?
Yeah. So the thing is it's. It's been hard. It's been a journey. So I think I've kind of lost seven years of my daughter, my young, my younger one and probably nine years of my older one because I was work, I was a consultant. Right. Traveling so much, working crazy hours. That's a problem when you want, when you have standards, so high standards for yourself that you want to excel in everything and you can't, you can't be great at everything. You have to be great at a few things.
Right.
I've learned that. So when, when I quit my job, the first three weeks were amazing because that vacation I took, so I quit on 2nd on 8th of 3rd of December, we made a decision that we will move to. We'll go to Hawaii. 9th of December, we were in Hawaii and we had no plans. Literally, we had no plans except the return flight. We didn't know where we're going to stay. We don't know how long, which island we're going to go. Well, I will just figure it out because there's really. And if you want to cancel and extend it, we'll do that. If you want to reduce it, we'll do that. I had to record a podcast, so I did carry some of the podcast equipment. I didn't work at all. Right. That was amazing. And the reason why I'm telling you this story is I thought when I. When we came back after about a month or two, I asked the girls the question, what was the best vacation? Right? And they said, oh, Hawaii, we love. Of course you love Hawaii. Who wouldn't love Hawaii? But then, thank God, I had the awareness to ask them the question, what made it so good? Good? Was it the shaved eyes? Was it the hiking? Was it just the open roof? Like, what was it? They're like, you know what? This is the first time you were not working.
Oh, my God.
It says it all, right? Kind of like for me, your heart, it just. Just kills you. Like, that's all they need. They are not looking for a 7,8000 square feet home, 100, 100 inch TV. They're not looking for all this stuff that's usually right. And we think that's. That's what they need, but they don't. They just need your time and attention. Quality time. So that's what we have tried to figure out. And I think when I quit and I started going to. Going on this journey and entrepreneurship, as you both know, is a very lonely journey, right? Because you don't necessarily. No one, no one around you understand what you're doing, right? They think you're just crazy.
And they wonder why. What? Why are they.
Why? Correct. What are you doing being so busy? I thought you, you retired. Well, like, it's not retired. That's a very different definition. I went.
I rew.
I rewired myself. Yes, yes, I like that. Retired to rewire.
Maybe there's a book, Brett and I say that all the time.
There's a book there we should, we should copyright.
Okay, let's the three of us collaborate on that. We have a project.
You know, what I have done now is I'm like, what are the times that I can. I still have to do the work I do because I have a mission to help. Our mission is basically like just Courtney like yours, where you were talking about. Our mission is to sponsor kids. Kids education back home in India. And our goal is by the. By the end of 2030, we want to touch 100,000 young lives.
Oh, that gave me chills. Socket. Seriously.
Thank you. We're so. We're. That number is less important to me. If it. If it's even one heart, I'm fine. But I need a number. I'm a type A personality. Right. I'm a result.
You gotta think.
I don't know what you mean by Taipei's.
Yeah, I don't know what that means. Right.
Maybe that's another. How many types can you have in one room?
Yeah, exactly. Right. So then. Then we started thinking, okay, what do we want to do? Why did we quit? I didn't quit to go busy. Get busy for another 20 hours a day.
Yeah.
Then now we've started blocking the calendar. Right. Like in morning before at someday I could drop my daughters. Someday I couldn't. Now from 6 to 9, I have no meetings period. So that's the time I go drop them, have breakfast with them, finish up their homework, whatever they need to do, come back, talk to my wife so that three hours is non negotiable. And the afternoon I go pick him up to the best extent I can. So I have now reorganized my calendar where there's certain things and we have. I didn't realize that the. The amazing conversations I was missing in the car. That's like a best time. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't care about doing anything at that time or being on the computer. You know these YouTube shorts, which is super addictive. And I'm trying to get out of that. They have made the worst. I think they've invented. They don't even probably know what they have done. It's so like, I just do one more. I'll just do one more. This next one's going to be great. And there you go. 40 minutes of your time is gone. So we're trying to develop those.
So much content you do.
And it's all crap, most of it.
I know, I know. What do you really do?
Anyways, coming back to your question, really, we're trying to figure out how can we schedule more time in like, you know, that over the last. I think you and I have talked about. The girls were off. My girls were up for three weeks. I canceled every single meeting.
Yeah, you did. You did. And I thought the Ability to shut your business down and devote yourself fully in mind, body and spirit to whatever it is you choose. Your family here is what we're specifically talking about. Your girls is powerful. So you've set your business up to operate where you don't have to be in it day in and day out, but you can be fully present. I mean, how many times have we all, like, been in the car with our family and we've been doing a business project or a recording, it's like nobody say anything. You know, I'm in my car doing this and it's like you're with them, but you're not with them, you know?
Yeah. And Courtney, you said that you're not coming to. You're not coming to one of our trips, upcoming trips to Belize, because you have a very important event that will come back.
She does. And you're where you need to be. They need you.
Well, and. And I love that you are talking about rescheduling thing. That is one of the things that I started working on this year is scheduling that time with my family and then scheduling everything else around it because at the end of the day, we don't get that time back. We cannot replace that. And. And that's what our kids want. So I have it blocked off where, you know, my husband takes the boys in the morning, I pick them up afternoon, and I have actually gotten rid of all of my evening things because that's my time with my family. And if I can't get it done during the day, then it's not going to happen. And now we are scheduling, you know, trips and you know, my husband just took my youngest son to Chicago last week. It was the two of them. They went on this trip. Oh, how was that? They had so much fun. They went to a couple of Cubs games and had such a great. Jaden is still talking about it, which is amazing. And you know, my six 16 year old loves history and he loves like World War II, so Joe's going to take him to the World War II History Museum in New Orleans. And so, you know, just. Just getting this, you know, special time penciled out, you know, scheduled out and everything else can go around it. And I have that certain time blocked off for Bible study, picking up my kids. And I have gotten rid of all of my evening things. Last year I was on zooms every night during the week and I said, I'm not doing that this year. I am done doing that.
No, no, it's important.
You also said something, Courtney, which I don't know if you said, you probably said it in passing, but it's very powerful, which I use all the time, which is non negotiables.
Right.
And these are your non negotiable. It's very important. I didn't realize that coming off of the work, indeed, even during my W2, is that I didn't have a non negotiable.
Right.
Work was my non negotiable, which is fine that, that it was season in my life when I needed it. But I'm a different season now, which is my family is my non negotiable.
That's right.
Of course. Of course. For them also, there's not enough time. Right. But you have to balance it all out.
No. And you know, this will be my first year to miss the Belize summit, and I'm really sad about that. You know, this is that, you know, the real estate guys tribe is kind of my extended family. It's my, my work family. I love the people and the connections that I have there. But you know, my son got his World Series and he was invited to play, you know, at the College World Series in Omaha, and I can't miss that.
Oh, my God. No.
I, I would never forgive myself. And as important as, you know, that time and beliefs is, you know, this is something that I can never get back. So.
Well, we're pivoting there as well. I'm going and I love it. But we are coming back three days early because we've got some family commitments that we're not willing to, to skip out on this year.
Right.
And we're all really talking about how we've shifted and, and worked with our time. You know, I think there's a window that is natural that we all go through where it's like everything's on steroids. We're on everything, we're attending everything. We're doing everything. And then you, you, you mature a little bit in yourself and you. Well, like we've said, we all recognize our. Why. What is it that we're really trying to, to back off, you know, on some of those commitments that. So, for example, I've, I will tell y', all, I have pared my day down to. I shut my day off at 3. Okay. I really do. Now I'm. What, what I mean by that is I don't. Unless I absolutely have to take another business call after that time. So I'm closing things down, putting my. Getting myself ready for the next day. And if it's something that I absolutely have to be on, I'LL do it. If it's, you know, appointment with somebody, no one else has absolutely any other time, we'll kind of discuss that. But outside of that, I really don't anymore. And that was just implemented this year in January. For me.
I feel like at our inner circle meeting, that was a lot of everybody's goals. I think all of us, you know, last year, you know, 28 hours a day to kind of get things done. And it was really kind of across the board. All of us were like, you know, this year we're gonna work smarter and not harder and streamline processes and kind of get that time back with our, our families that we sacrificed. Because we. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, if we're working smarter and not harder, we can get everything that we need done during those hours and not take that away from our family.
Just collapse those time frames. It's. It's real.
I was listening to. I think it was Joe Rogan or Ed Milet. I can't remember who it was. He said, the way he looks at his day is. He was talking interesting. He was like, you know what? When the earth revolves around the sun, that's one year. Weeks, days, hours. These are all abstract concept. What if you can divide your awake hours into three shifts of six hours each, right? You basically say, I'm going to fit three days into one day. Oh, wow, you're productive. What happens usually is, oh, I'll do it in the evening, right? I have a full day. You get up at 5 or 6 or 3. Whatever time you're getting up, up, hey, I have a whole day. I'll do something in the evening. He's like, what, what if your day is six, six hours, right? From like, for me, it'll start at nine, nine to three. That's a one shift. I can get a lot accomplished if I know my day is six hours instead of four hours. I think it's just a different mind shift of how can you squeeze more hour. I think part of that is I'm a. I'm a. I'm a, I think addicted procrastinator.
I don't know if I'd say about you.
I love it. I love it, right? Procrastination. I'll wait. Pressure. I love pressure. So I sometimes are like, me too, right? I'm like, I'm just gonna. If, if I have one month, I'll wait till the day before.
Exactly like that. No, I operate well under pressure. But I, I have really since I've made The shift. I'm tell. I'm like super like getting tons more dense. I'm not so backed up, you know.
I think that's where I was going. Now that my days are compressed and I have to fit everything. The procrastination is actually self, self cured.
Yes.
I don't have time to. I'm like, okay, I'll send an email tomorrow. No, no, just send it out, just record it. It's gone, it's done. It'll take me two minutes instead of keeping it back of my head. So that's been helping.
Well, we're gonna tag that. You're a self cured procrastinator.
I like that. Thank you. Let's not, let's not, let's not make sure we make it too public.
I think it's great. I think that people need to know how, how like really can you get your business done and be effective and instead of like spreading it out till you know, oh, I've got to be on this zoom call with somebody at 8pm because it's convenient for them. Well, that doesn't serve me and my business.
It doesn't. It doesn't. I mean they, they. The way to look at the businesses that I'm not. Yeah. I think the way I've started looking at investors need you more than you need the investors. Right. In our business, we're all raising capital, we're all doing deals that. Yeah. There will be a time this season in life and season in business where you need to be making the evening you're available.
Absolutely.
Most of the time what we're offering to our investors is equally valuable than what they're offering us. Right. So the times and schedules have to work for everyone. Otherwise maybe you gotta find a new investor group.
No. And that's one of the things, you know, that I've really been trying to focus on is really kind of narrow, you know, shortening and narrowing things down and being very aware of, of people's time. And you know, our, the people we work with, they've got all this stuff going on too. They're busy. So, you know, taking something that would generally take an hour and figure out how to condense that down to 30 minutes. And I think it's better for everybody.
It's far more effective. Yeah. Because you think about what, what are they retaining from all that you've said?
Yeah.
Like it's really about the first 10 minutes and that's it.
My wife used to say, just call this person. I'm like, I cannot get off a Phone for less than 45 minutes. It just takes me time to. Because I just want to say, hey, I need this, and put the phone down. I'll talk to them. I'll understand that. Like 45 minute per person. Because if you talk to 10 people, that's pretty much all your day. So you gotta start condensing it and trying to figure out what can you do get done in 5, 10 minutes. The effect is still the same. I had to shift my mental bomb like. Like I need. I need to be more effective in their time. Right. Courtney, what you said was very powerful. Forget about your time. Their time is even more important. It is respecting that. You'll compress a lot of good things in that time.
It is, is it? So is. Well, let's just take a couple of minutes here. Our time's kind of winding down. Socket. Tell us where it is that you're. What are you focusing on now? I know you just mentioned your joint venture and you're closing on a project here in at this point, about an hour and a half, which is very exciting.
Yeah, it's exciting.
What, what else do you see in your.
I think it's Russ and I. Russell Gray, which. The co host of the real Estate guys radio show. He's one of our collective mentors, right?
Yes, he is.
And he and I had probably like three hours of conversation this overall spread throughout multiple days. And one thing he kept reminding me, what's your mission? Right. Don't forget your mission. Right, right. And it's really more. Courtney, you said that. And I know you live it by. You live by it. Robin, is what is. Is what you're doing going to serve that mission. And our mission, I keep reflecting on that really, is to give back to the community in India where I come from. Doesn't mean that's the only place they need help. They need help all across, even in the U.S. but that just speaks the most to me because that's where I came from.
Right.
So if we need to do that, whatever I'm doing this podcast that you guys are doing, I use that as a message to spread that message, that wherever I can find a plug, I'm like, you know what? This is what the most important thing. But what we don't want to do is, and I'm not saying there's not a place for that, we don't want to help the kids through donation. Because what happens with the donation is. I'll use you guys as an example. Let's say you did commit a thousand dollar as A pledge every year. If you have problems in your, in your life, in your family and you really need that thousand dollars, you're going to forego your pledge. That's just human, that's just human nature. Most of us at least, and I'm not talking about you two, but I would say majority of the human population will say, well I need it so I can't give that thousand dollars because my family can't eat. We're talking about those needs. So at that time, what happens with somebody else who actually was dependent on that thousand dollars because they built their whole business model around the pledges. It's not fair for them. So what we're trying to figure out is we know how to invest our money. We have built our own life around that. So how can we now help Courtney, help the, help Robin, help the other people in the world where they all want to contribute, they want to pledge because there's, there's some prop, there's restriction that comes with pledging. Right. And we are, we're all about freedom. We're saying is we're going to actually use investment as a vehicle to create our investments. The profits that we generate and the returns that we're giving to our investors, they can now choose to give that up because that's, that's a surplus income at that point. Right. For most of us that if we're making a thousand dollars every week, every month, whatever portion you want to do, whatever portion we want to do, that's all personal choices. We're trying to build a whole platform. So we're now launching our non profit in the next few months that should be live. We're now tying the investment into the foundation and we're making this one big circle.
Instead of taking that money, I'm just going to make sure I've got this right. Instead of me just going, hey, I'm donating that thousand dollars. It's putting, it's. You're creating an investment donation that way. I'm investing in my money is going into that investment which is going to continually create.
Exactly. We're now basically creating. Then there was an aha moment for us. Right. So we have, have worked for our life for W2 and that has served a great purpose. Right. I don't want to demean that, but what the life has been very different once we started generating passive income.
Yes.
Right. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to generate passive income for non profit organizations who are actually serving the cause. Right. It's really a great parallel between the two. So that's exactly our mission is. That's exactly our purpose. That's what we wake up for. Well, like, you know, now it's. We needed to tie the two together because before it was disjointed, it's like.
Infinite donations or there's some kind of great tagline or something that you can tie into that, you know, passive, passive donating or something like that.
Something that I would love to explore that maybe next mastermind when I meet you guys. I would love to get some thoughts on that. But that's really where the whole mission now become that. Forget don't make non profit as an afterthought. Don't make your causes as an afterthought about.
Right.
Figure out non. Our causes need to be one of our non negotiable. Yes. And once we all know that once we say it's non negotiable, your mind's going to work in overdrive and figure it out. Once the family became non negotiable, we figured out the time. Right?
Yes.
But that's what we need to do.
Priority.
That's a priority. And if it is a priority, let's work towards it instead of saying when I'm 80, I'm going to give a billion dollar away. It doesn't help a lot of people because you could have given $10 billion away if you structured it properly.
Sure.
Very true. So very true. Wow, that's powerful. I love. Our cause is a non negotiable. Make your cause a non negotiable. Goodness. Bless you. Wow. Well, Socket, you have really shared some amazing pieces with us today that I think that are our viewers and our listeners will really be able to kind of put in place practically, but also give them food for thought. So how, how might our viewers and listeners get in touch with you?
Yeah, definitely. So we have our own podcast which I know Robin, you were there and Courtney, you need to find time with your busy schedule. Let's figure it out. We'll get you on there. Migrate to wealth is our show. It's purely educational, just like this one.
Right.
We don't, we don't. We don't pitch anything. We don't talk about investments. We have. Our approach for that podcast is making you a five dimensional human being. Right. We talk about mindset, we talk about your body, we talk about relationships, we talk about money and we talk about impact. These are five dimensions of life which are important to me. Doesn't mean that's the only five dimensions Important. These are five dimensions to how I've arranged my life around. So we're basically always bringing out. Guess what? We're talking about these five with. With investment being a pretty big thesis.
Sure.
When I set the foundation because we want to create the passive donation model or whatever Courtney was talking about. I need to figure out the way. How to phrase that. But that's what we're doing. So investing is a big piece. We're also bringing. Sure that we have all these aspects covered. And you know what? Also it keeps me honest. I've struggled throughout my. I struggled with my weight throughout my life. And so I'm like, if I'm talking about that I need to prioritize my own health and that is actually focused for help me prioritize that. And that has become my non negotiable, which has been very important to me. So with this, I'm actually growing myself leaps and beyond bounds just by doing this podcast.
Yeah.
So that's where they can find me.
Robin, on the podcast. Migrate to Wealth.
Log on to our Migrate to Wealth. We have a private Facebook community. You'll have access to all of that stuff through that. That's really the best way to get Ken Touch with us.
Okay.
I love now what I do. What I would say for your guests or for your listeners is that if you can send me a screenshot of a five star rating for this show, I will give you a 15 minutes of consultation with me, which I don't offer anybody.
Oh, nice. That is very generous of you.
Right.
Okay. Thank you for that. That's very generous. If I give my own self a five star rating, do I get to come and.
Hey, that would be. That would be my 15 minutes with you. It'll be reversed.
You write me, I'll rate you. We'll rate you too.
There you go.
We'll just shift it.
We'll just shift it.
Yeah, yeah, that. I love that. You know, I spent the weekend with Mark Victor Hansen and Brandon Barnum and they wrote, you know, raving referrals, Chicken Soup for the Soul. But Mark Victor Hansen has a book called Ask. And so we really talked a little bit about that, about asking, you know, for the things that you need. Ask God, ask others. And that's a really powerful thing to do. That is not a strong suit of mine, but that's something I'm working on that book now and that is going to be something I'm going to start doing.
Is Ask really resonated with you? Yeah, I love that. That's awesome.
Don't ask, you don't get. Right. The worst thing that happens. You know what?
The worst thing that happens. Yeah. Yes. I say that to my family all the time, to my children. I really do. You know, they'll say, oh, I don't know. I'm like, just ask the question. Just ask. Okay. Well, we are going to need to wrap up Socket. I love how you shared how our listeners can get in touch with you. As always, please reach out to Courtney and myself@ladieskickenassets.com subscribe to our channel and share what we've talked about. All right.
Have an amazing day.
Powerful week. Thank you so much.
Thank you.