Interviewing Taylor Swift’s Bass Player??

Never mind. No, can you get out of my spot?

What's up?

Well, ladies and gentlemen, today on the Wonderful Howdy Podcast, we have my wonderful friends, my dear, dear partners.

Yep.

Yeah, Evan and Josh Secka. It's good to be here.

It's good to be home.

It's been a lot of things happened since the last time we sat down and had some coffee together.

Oh yeah, when was the last time you sat down, uh, for some coffee together? Years.

Years.

Years. It's probably not me and you. I haven't seen you probably since college.

That's crazy.

Since college.

And Josh went to college like what, 10 years ago?

Yeah, about 10 years maybe.

It's been a while.

During the Prohibition. It's fine.

It was really good, man. Wow, how was that? What was that like?

Depressing.

Yeah. Do you still get your fix?

No, no, it was awful.

Josh is wearing a bandana today.

No, no, I'm not. It's not true.

Can you show the audience?

The allegations are not true.

If you would look at that camera right there and show them your bandana, please. Not that one. Not that one. This one to your left.

Over here.

It is very true.

That's very exciting.

Yeah. No one could tell.

You know, ever since I've known you, you've worn bandanas. Is there a reason?

My hair's been unbridled and aggressive.

Well, even when it was short, I just thought it was cool.

I saw David Funk wear one once and I was like, I'm sold. That was the only reason.

So is that who you look up to?

Not anymore, no.

Why?

Because I do country music now.

Is he not a good enough bass player for you anymore?

No, no, not really, actually. I am better than David Funk. Which camera do I look at and say that to? I don't mean to—

statement.

Yeah, I'm just saying, bro. I don't mean to brag, but wow.

Evan, what have you been up to?

Please cut that.

Oh, you know, no, God, living in Boston.

Boston, Boston, Boston, Boston. You've picked up an accent.

No, I haven't.

You've gone to some pubs there?

Yeah, I've been a couple pubs. There's a lot of them.

So what do you do for fun other than pubs?

Um, I make coffee for a living.

Is that fun?

Um, I get demoted for a living.

Yeah, and sued apparently. Um, you're gonna have to tell us about that here in a little bit, but we can't say names.

Yeah, that's wild.

Um, if you're legally able to—

they're not gonna watch this. I don't— they may watch this.

Hey man, we get millions of views.

They live here.

Millions.

Josh Sheck is about to skyrocket this podcast.

Yeah, sure. Uh, we'll see, dude.

I don't know why that—

it'll go from like 150 to like 163. That's about it.

You play with Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, right?

Yeah, I play with Taylor Swift, the, the real one.

The real—

not the tribute band from Dallas that just went to Japan, by the way.

I hate that tribute band. Yeah, well, you know what, especially the bass player. Yeah, literally the worst. Yeah, that's mean.

You can't say that about people you don't know.

No, it's just the bass player. I think the rest of the band's probably pretty fine.

Have you stopped in Boston?

I went once with him. Biggest mistake in my life.

And then he victory cheered down the Holocaust Tunnel.

Josh.

No, it wasn't me. I actually have video footage that it was him. Like, it's actually on my phone right now.

He also touched an owl.

I did touch an owl.

How?

I just snuck up on it and grabbed it.

Can you talk us through that situation? I want to know more about it.

Yeah, me too.

It was dark. Oh, it was in the middle of downtown Boston.

Oh.

And he was like, you can't grab this owl. That's exactly what happened. And I was like, I'm going to do it.

I didn't say it as like a you can't. I said that you probably shouldn't.

Yeah, same thing. Interchangeable. He was like, you probably shouldn't. And I was like, don't tell me what to do. And I pet— I didn't grab it. I just like petted it. And then it woke up. Its big old eyes like went straight at me and I got kind of scared.

Now you're cursed.

And cursed, dude. It's the worst.

Probably, yeah.

It follows me everywhere.

Honestly.

Wow.

No, it's fine, dude.

So are you still touring more with them, or what?

Taylor Swift or the owl?

Taylor Swift.

Oh yeah, that's, uh, yeah, I mean, we definitely have a few shows coming up, but between that and everything else, you know, I'm kind of just trying to get work wherever I can, you know. Yeah, living the poor broke musician life is great.

Nice. Yeah, it's phenomenal.

Yeah, I'm so broke. Can we start a GoFundMe right now? Is that a thing on this podcast?

No, we're not on, bro. We're for-profit, we're not a nonprofit.

Makes sense.

Well, I'm only here to make money.

Yeah, me too, bro. Please help your boy. Seriously, anybody watching, seriously, he's a bass player. I'm begging you.

They don't make— they get like 2% of the cut, maybe if we're lucky.

No, we get more. I mean, I, I'm not gonna say 2%, that'd be mean.

So We'll stick on Josh's story for a minute. I want to get into both your stories a little bit.

Yeah.

But Josh, how did you get to where you are right now playing bass guitar on massive stages for Taylor Swift tribute bands?

Well, Darren, it all started at HSU Chapel Band. Whoa. With both of y'all.

Hold on, hold on.

Let's go back even further.

Like out the womb? Yeah, man. All right, when did you come out? Hendrick Medical Center in 1997. My first memory is probably 9/11. Uh, whoa, sorry, that's not allowed. I'm sorry, never mind, take it back. That wasn't my first memory, but can't say that with that hair. It's fun. All right, hey, come on, don't be like that. That's mean. Uh, no, no, no. I mean, I started playing bass when I was like 12 years old. Uh, I heard the Madagascar 2 theme and I was like, heck yeah, let's learn this. I never learned it. And my big brother also played guitar, so I can't play guitar. So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna play the bass, learn Madagascar. Never did. And then I was kind of stuck with it. Like, it's too late to change now. So we're here vibing.

Would you change?

No, not No.

Okay, okay.

I was about to have a follow-up question. Which instrument? Okay, okay, I'll ask it anyways. Which instrument would you play if you didn't play the bass?

Dude, saxophone. 100%, bro. I always wanted to play saxophone, but I couldn't in band. I just wasn't capable in 6th grade. Like, my tiny lungs could not produce the air needed for a saxophone, so I played baritone. And I've always regretted not playing saxophone.

You played the baritone?

Back in the day. Yeah, if anybody knows what a baritone is, I'd be really impressed. You know, y'all were both in band. Y'all don't count though, bro. You played trumpet.

I played trumpet, but I had to fill in baritone every now and then, dude. I'm sorry, they sucked.

And it—

they did, bro.

No, I love my section. My section was great, but the instrument itself was like—

where'd you go to high school?

Uh, Abilene High.

How was that? Did you enjoy it?

It was great, I guess. I did band for 3 years there. And swimming and theater.

Swimming?

Swimming.

Did you wear the Speedos?

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, like of course, duh. Yeah, it was band, swimming, a little football, and theater. Those are the glory days.

Wow.

Okay, and then you go to Hardin-Simmons, and then, and then I just came—

yeah, I met Evan, and then that's where my world just dipped just straight down, bro.

It all ended there.

Heck yeah. So you went to Hardin-Simmons. I guess that's where we met in the chapel band. And Josh was ferociously yelling.

I was definitely yelling.

And you looked— there's this thing called an MD. Whenever you play live music, specifically in a church setting, where they tell you where we're going, directing the band. Josh was the MD. When I was a little freshman, attempted to play an electric guitar, didn't know what I was doing at all. He was like, no, you need to play the 4. No, 5. 6 minor.

Let's change it up. Dude, it's elementary. Give me a 2 minor. I'm like, Josh, walk down to the 1.

Josh, you realize I was just born. Okay, I haven't been here for 2 decades.

It's funny because I know exactly what chapel you're talking about and you look like A scared little boy, deer in the headlights. It was like a little doe who first saw an 18-wheeler hurtling toward them.

It was deep. Yeah. And guess, guess what? I had you yelling in my ears.

It was just— I think at the time, because I don't think you were actually playing on set, it was just Darren. It was one of the few you weren't there yet. So like, it was just Darren on guitar. I was like, bro, you need to fill up space. It's time. It's your time. And you just stared at me, and I was like, no, don't stare at me, stare at your guitar. Like, do something.

Yeah, I was like, Josh, I have no what I'm doing.

I don't know what key we're in. Now I can count to 8.

Now I can figure out—

sometimes 9.

Sometimes 9 if you're lucky, bro.

I'm just saying. Yeah.

So, Darren, you've come a long way since the time I saw you as a scared young freshman who could barely play a G chord. And now—

yeah, well, I just wasn't used to playing with like 28-year-olds. Okay. I was like 8.

That's a good point.

I was 18.

Dude, you were like 28, 29.

Oh, I wasn't aware we had 28-year-olds on the chapel team. Okay.

That's not me.

Bro.

Anyways, okay, and that's how we met, and now you're off on the big stages yelling at other people. Oh, we have some people behind the scenes who are trying—

oh my gosh, unpaid interns— to destroy the show, and definitely not going to be paid anytime soon. That's incredible.

Sweet. So Evan, what's up? How have you been?

How have I been?

I heard you just got engaged.

I did just get engaged.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much. It was a good time.

How did that come about?

Oh, you know, when you love someone.

Okay.

Oh, um, keep going.

You got to tell a little bit about how you proposed.

How I proposed? Like the whole story? Like from beginning to end?

Just whatever you feel comfortable sharing.

So 3 years ago, I met Ashley, my now fiancée. Um, that's why I moved to Boston. She was going to grad school. Started going to grad school up there. I was like, I'll go to Boston. Let's go to Boston versus doing like a 26-hour long distance. That didn't seem fun.

Yeah.

So we moved up there together and then, yeah, earlier, I guess it was like last fall, I like talked with her parents and found a ring or I didn't find a ring. I started like researching a ring. I was going to have it custom made and everything. So then I went to a jeweler in Boston and had a whole thing, consultation, and gave them inspiration and did the whole thing. And then I was like, how am I going to do this? How am I— what am I going to do? And then we, we try to take like every semester, like a trip out of town because we just get so busy and like being in New England, everything's like a 3-hour drive. So it's like, why not take like a trip every semester? So she planned the last one in the fall. So I was going to plan this one. So it just was like a perfect way, perfect excuse. Um, and I had to figure it out, but I figured it out that we were going to go to Bar Harbor, Maine, which is like the very tippy top of Maine on the coast. Um, it's next to like Acadia National Park. It's beautiful, gorgeous. It's like a cute little beach town, touristy town. It's wonderful.

Love it there.

Wonderful.

So that's where you are right now?

Huh?

Is that where you are right now?

That's where I am right now. Okay. That's where I am all the time.

How far is that? Is that direct? Like, how far is that from Boston?

5 hours. 5-hour drive. Sheesh. 4.5 hours. It's a beautiful drive though. It's like through the mountains, on the coast, see water. Wow. It's beautiful.

Sounds like a love story.

Oh, it was. It was. It was. But yeah, I did it while we were— they were there last week, um, to— on this day last week, actually. Wow. I proposed.

Well, wow. Congrats.

Thanks.

So before you got engaged, before you went to Boston, what did you do? How did you end up in Abilene?

How did I end up in Abilene? Yeah. So I— it's such a long story. I mean, I went to— I graduated high school in Snyder, Snyder, Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's like where people like Josh go.

Yeah, dude. After they retire, they're all washed up.

Yeah, I went to high school there and like graduated. I like went to high school mainly or like grew up mainly like DFW and like a year in Arkansas and like half a year in Houston. I've moved all over the place. Yeah. But when it was time to go to college, I was like, where am I going to go? What am I going to do? Just move this.

It's okay.

Oh, it's like, what am I going to do? Where am I going to go? And I almost went to UNT, University of North Texas in Denton. For music. But then Hardin-Simmons gave me a really good scholarship. So I was like, all right, I guess we're going to Hardin-Simmons.

For— where'd you get a degree in?

I got my degree in biblical studies, but I was originally going for music, music major.

So you switched?

So I switched. I was not about the music major life. No, couldn't do it.

Too much theory.

Yeah, too much theory and too much 8 AM classes. Too many EDM classes, just couldn't do them. It's exhausting. So I, you know, was doing that, and that's how I ended up in Abilene and doing a bunch of worship and chapel band and midnight worship.

And that's where you met me.

That's when I met Josh.

That's when you fell in love with Josh.

When I regretted my entire life after that.

Everything's fine.

From that moment forward.

Yeah, I invited them on to the podcast together, and each one replied to me individually and said, I'm not going to be on the show if he's on the show.

It's true.

I want to say I do still stand by that.

Well, you're here.

Like, I, I don't want him here right now.

Well, maybe y'all should fight. Maybe y'all should.

That's a good point.

Maybe I should rock, paper, scissors, and whoever loses has to leave.

Good idea.

Or Josh could just—

or Evan could just go ahead and take off now. He has a fiancée to get to.

So Mike is out of the country right now. As you may know, Mike is my helper. Usually it's behind the scenes. Kind of makes me crazy.

I was wondering where Mike is. I've been looking for him.

Unfortunately, Mike was deported back.

Not again. Yeah, not again.

Not again. It happens every—

It's not the first time this has happened, but there's just a mix-up.

Well, he'll get back.

In his Theo, because Theo had gotten into some trouble. And anyways, so we have a couple other helpers.

Interns.

Hit the fog machine really quick. Come on, just so we can—

where is it? There's a fog machine in here.

So the little one with the skeleton on the ground.

Oh, that's so cool.

Yeah, it should be on. Maybe we'll have to wait till the green light comes back on.

Oh. So we can't get fog right now.

Dang, it was on just a second ago. I don't know why it turned off. Okay, yeah, just wait till it turns back on.

Well, what about you, Darren, dude? How'd you end up in that lane, dude?

Oh, there we go, there we go, there we go!

Yeah!

Oh yeah, the green light! Hit the green button, bring the fog. Hold it.

Let's go!

Yeah, yeah, there we go! All right, all right, all right, all right, we're good. Okay, nice.

What about you, Darren?

So like like we were saying, how did I get in Adelaide, man?

How'd you do this? How'd you get the flights inside?

I don't have a freaking clue. Yeah, honestly, I just woke up one day in the hospital and I, I just like walked out and they're like, hey, when's your next podcast? I was like, I don't remember.

You said howdy.

Yeah, I was like, howdy, howdy. And they're like, yeah, the Howdy Podcast. I was like, oh, I guess I've— yeah, no, I, um Grew up in West Texas, kind of like you, in a smaller town. Smaller town than Snyder, about 4,000 people. I'm not gonna name it, but I had to get out of there. Too much oil smell for my lungs. Yeah, yeah. So I decided to come to Abilene. Originally came for baseball to play at Hardin-Simmons.

I forgot about that.

Yeah, it was not fun, but whatever. Didn't want to play baseball anymore. That time was up. Um, yeah, one thing led to the other, and I met my now wife freshman year.

Let's go!

Oh, Katie Grace, she'll be on, dude.

She's blushing behind camera.

Um, one day. But yeah, man, and then I stumbled upon a camera one day, and I was like, this is kind of fun. And then I bought a drone, and it just kind of like Snowballed, and now we're in a studio downtown.

I got a whole video podcast.

Dude, you made it.

Now we produce podcasts.

Heck yeah.

We run people's social media accounts. We do content creation stuff.

Wow.

Cover events for videography.

You still do weddings?

We do weddings. I don't always advertise it, but yeah, that's fair. The occasional friend texts me.

So you can advertise your podcast, but I can't advertise my GoFundMe?

No, dude.

See, Josh, you're the guest. Okay, I'm the host, I do what I want. So you just sit over there, sip on your hot coffee in the 100-degree weather.

It's very lukewarm right now, guys. I'm broke. Please, please GoFundMe. We can start.

Josh is just a little—

he's a little all over the place. He's going through some stuff right now.

Yeah, I'm going through some trauma.

What are you going through right now?

There's absolutely nothing. I am not that creative. I can't come up with it on the spot. My life's great right now, guys. I mean, like, I just came from Japan and all that. Like, I'm chilling.

Yeah, so you're gonna have to tell us about that experience.

Now?

Japan. Yeah, tell us about Japan.

It was incredible. You got lost in Japan?

You got lost?

I did get lost in Tokyo. Okay, it was incredible. You know, me and a couple of friends got lost at 2 AM on a Saturday night in Tokyo, in Shinjuku.

That should be a song.

That's what I said. I was like, I'm gonna write the song. None of y'all steal my idea.

Write it right now.

Nobody steal my idea. I'm serious. This is mine. No. No, no, no, no, this is mine. We can all write it right now on the podcast.

Yeah, 2 AM.

See, this is ready.

No, this is already a country song. That's not gonna be a country song. That will not happen. But it was great. I mean, I spent 3 days there. Uh, Friday was in Okinawa. I had 2 gigs there with the Taylor Swift tribute band Lover. Shameless plug. Uh, they're incredible. I love them. And then we spent—

how did you end up in Japan? With, like, how did y'all get that?

Uh, it was a USO gig, I believe. So, you know, they, they recruited us to go play.

What's USO?

Uh, it's like, uh, I'm horribly butchering this. Basically, it's like the entertainment, uh, like department of the military, and it's like a morale booster, you know. So they send entertainment to other countries and stuff. I mean, or in America too, like there's tours in America and stuff like that. And there was a festival we played called like America Fest or something. I don't know, but it was fun either way. There's like 13,000 people that cycled in and out throughout the whole day.

Wow.

We had like the headliner slot. And again, Charity, the girl who actually runs Lover, she got that booked months ago. Just like one thing led to another. They found her page, loved her stuff, wanted to work with her, and we kind of just started prepping for it, getting show ready like 2 months before, and then we kind of just went for it like 2 weeks ago. It was incredible though.

Wow.

Did you do any drifting while you were there?

Drifting?

Yeah, in Tokyo.

Like Tokyo Drift?

Like, exactly.

Yeah, no, I don't believe so.

Bro, did you see some cool Priuses?

There was no cool Priuses at all. I saw nothing, bro. There's a lot of taxis.

I guess it's, I guess it's That's fair.

A lot of bars, a lot of, uh, a lot of what? A lot of what? Ramen. It was great though. That's all I was gonna say. Yeah, but no, it was incredible. Tokyo was crazy. It's really hard to put into words.

Is there any good coffee there?

Do you— no, actually, I asked him to bring me back some and he didn't.

Yeah, I definitely— I didn't have space.

I brought souvenirs for a bag of coffee.

Okay, I will say I did bring souvenirs for a lot of other people. Okay. I honestly just ran out of space. I'm sorry. You didn't bring me anything either. Well, I also— I wanted magnet. Well, I also ran out of space. Well, I ran out of space for you too, bro.

I'm sorry. I know how big— I know how big your base case is.

And dude, I don't know what you're talking about, dude. Okay, actually, the military, uh, provided pretty much all of our equipment.

That's really cool.

They backlined everything. Yes.

What'd you play there?

Uh, I just— I asked for a base. Don't— please don't— somebody's about to shoot me on camera. Can you censor this out?

Can you please bring Josh those Reese's Pieces?

He's— I fear for my life.

Yeah.

Give me my Reese's Pieces. Please don't shoot me again.

I'm a little baby, little hungee.

Oh dang, calm down. I do love my little M&M's. Y'all don't shoot me, I'm begging. Everybody's targeting me right now, guys. Help.

Next.

Please don't cut this off.

We're actually sponsored by Reese's Pieces.

Drink up.

It's true.

Please don't. Please stop, bro.

Chocolate milk.

No, this is getting really, really hazardous for me. Everybody's targeting me. Was this planned? I know what y'all were doing.

Well, you didn't bring me magnets.

Okay, but I'm sorry, I didn't bring you coffee either. Yeah, I did go to a Starbucks there.

You went to Starbucks? Starbucks here?

Yeah, it was in a big old park. It was cool, but it was in Japan.

It was cool.

It was different.

So how do you say Starbucks in Japanese?

Starbucks.

Did you learn any?

I did not learn any. Oh no, I mean, I learned, uh, konnichiwa. That's literally it. Hey, how are you? Arigato is thank you. I think that is clearly not good, like, pronunciation, but arigato is thank you. And I would basically say konnichiwa, I'd get my thing, whatever I'm doing, and then I'd be like, arigato, and I'd walk out. No, no, it was great.

They're probably like, stupid Americans.

Yeah, they definitely were like, these guys are clearly American. But also like, there's a lot of Americans in Tokyo. Like, it's quite a variety of people, honestly. I was very like amazed, you know. But definitely quite a bit of Americans. Like, we went to one bar that actually was owned by New Yorkers, and that was like the whole theme, you know. It was like a New York-based thing, and of course they're talking about it, you know. So I feel like New York Not even close, but like it felt like America and that was cool, you know, but I mean everything else was crazy.

That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.

So you went to Tokyo, didn't try any other coffee.

Oh, I tried a lot of food.

What'd you eat?

A lot of food. So we went to this place, Shibuya, and it's Shibuya. Yeah, it's like a thing in the office too. Like they're like roll call Shibuya or something, but actually went to the place. And it's like kind of half touristy, half like local. So we found this one like 500-foot block of just stacks of buildings. And over there everything's very compact. So it's like 5-story buildings and on each floor there's another bar or like restaurant. And sometimes there's 2 on each one and there's another one in the basement. And we honestly just spent a lot of our time going to those kind of blocks and stuff. So we would try some Soju at some soju bars and then like some random food. Couldn't pronounce stuff, couldn't read anything on the menu, but we saw something that looked good. We'd point it out and be like, yeah, we want that. I mean, again, it doesn't, you know, they know we pointed something like, yeah. And we're like, give it to me. Milky milk. Yeah.

Do you have any milk?

Yeah, I didn't say that. Okay, come on. Why would that be something I said, bro?

That's me.

You wear a bandana, you're eating Reese's Pieces. That's the only assumption I can make.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Well, okay, so as many of you know, this morning I put up on Instagram—

oh gosh—

a couple Q&A opportunities for the—

surely no one responded, bro. No, you did not.

Oh my God.

Oh gosh, I feel like I wasn't expecting that.

Like, Evan Wedge, is this like a question like directed towards individually or like for both of Yeah, so they usually say like, for Josh.

Oh no, it's gonna be a bunch of hate mail.

First question coming in from Elisha Seca.

Oh gosh.

@Josh, when are you finally going to get a haircut, you mop top looking head eye?

Head what?

Head eye.

Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, good question, Elisha Seca from Abilene, Texas. I don't know when, but I assume somewhere in the near future when I can actually afford it. That would be ideal.

When you can afford a haircut.

Again, GoFundMe, please, for my haircut.

I know a barber that could do it for $18.

Bring him here right now.

I will give you $18.

Okay, if you do it right now on this podcast, I will do it. But past that, I don't know.

All right, this one is from Colby Milner.

Oh gosh, can we skip this one? Can I have one skip? I feel like a game show, right?

No.

Can I phone a friend?

Why does Josh suck so bad?

So that is a good one. That one keeps me up a lot, actually.

Why does—

actually, I want— why— I want Evan to answer this one. He probably can answer a little more, and I'll use a friendship.

Yeah, so I mean, it all started like— how old are you?

26. Rounding up to 30 now.

27 years ago, actually, whenever Josh Sacco was brought into this world. And then there was just like this, I don't know, just this doom and this darkness that just came over the world after that. And yeah, it's gonna continue after Jesus died. It's just like, yeah, except it never—

like, it's worse because it's still here.

26 years, you know, it's like, so it's like until he dies, that is gonna be there. So that's why he sucks, unfortunately.

I couldn't have said it any better.

No, I mean Just gotta say what it is, how it is.

Um, I don't want to ever phone a friend again for that one.

Dennis Gartman Jr. Oh no. Why do Evan and Josh hate each other?

Oh, this is a great question. I can answer this one. It all started in 2019 when I joined the chapel band. This hot young buck just coming into college.

Hot young buck.

Hot young buck.

I'm getting you a shirt that says that.

Please do, I'm begging you. I was just eager to prove myself on the chapel team, and out comes Evan, the worst person imaginable. And I was like, I can't work under these conditions. Like, look at him, respectfully. Like, respectfully. I knew from that day that I'd never function as a complete human with him in my life. And that's why I hate him.

I think that's probably why.

Wow. So you agree with him?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree.

Evan would not be the man he is without me, for better or worse.

A lot of these were directed towards Josh, I'm not gonna lie.

Okay, they're all just like roasting me, I feel like.

Okay, this one's from @pink_maddie. What are some assumptions people typically have about you?

Huh?

What?

@kate_maddie_104. @kate_maddie_104.

Who is she? What are some assumptions people typically have about you?

Uh, that I'm a nice guy with a great personality. And don't give me a thumbs down back there.

I'm just—

shout out to me, just saying.

Like, from Dennis Cartman Jr.

Again, you only get one response per person.

Don't do this.

Why does Josh I say egg weird.

Egg?

Egg. No, no, no, I say it because he says it weird. I, I use it to make fun of him. He goes, why are you such an egg? And I'm like, egg? And it kind of just goes from there. But it's his fault, not mine. That's, that's all there is. It's Dennis's fault, it's not my fault.

I'm sorry.

Okay, last one for Josh, and I got one more for Evan.

Dear Lord.

Josh, do you feel that being so small hinders your everyday tasks? You know, it's from fat.braden.

Okay, actually, this is a pretty deep one. Life comes with its own challenges and valleys.

Wow.

But I found through those valleys, eventually there's a mountain, and on top of the mountain, there's probably a deeper valley, but eventually there's a rainbow. Yeah, it's just really, really hard for me to reach because I'm a little shorter than most people. But it's fine.

Yeah.

You know, yeah, I'm proud of you.

Thank you.

Thanks.

It's been a long, so short road.

Short road.

Untalented and shorter.

How am I not funny? I'm just proud of you, how far you've come.

Dude, it's like, it's okay.

I'm just kidding, Josh. I love you so much.

No, no, no. He's not actually proud of you. He's just going to start crying. Can I—

can we take a break? Josh is awesome.

Who doesn't like shortness?

I did.

We're all short.

If you think about it, we're all short.

Evan, what's up? This one's coming in from Papa G60. Is your toilet paper roll over or under?

Oh, over.

Why?

It's convenient.

Why not under?

Because it's more convenient.

Have you ever tried under?

Yeah, I've tried every possibility in the book.

Have you tried a bidet?

I haven't tried.

Dude, I tried one of those in Tokyo for the first time. It was life-changing. Did you like it? Yes, I had— like, I think Colby actually— like, it was like, once you try a bidet, you can never go back. One time he told me that, and I was like, surely not. And then I tried it in Tokyo, and I was like, this is gonna suck. Yeah, but then I came back to America, guys. I don't— I want to buy my own bidet.

Buy a bidet, dude.

I need to, bro. I need to put y'all on. Everybody go buy a bidet. Seriously, anybody who's listening.

Did you try the ones with like the the heat, the heated seat and stuff.

Yes.

Yeah, actually it was in our hotel and it was the most luxurious, nice.

So you got on the bidet after you got lost at 2 AM in Tokyo?

It was not—

it was the morning before. Okay. Okay.

And yeah, I just wanted to clarify that.

Yeah, no, it was not the morning after. We're fine then. Before it was the problem. Yeah.

Heck yeah. Evan, what kind of food is there to eat in Boston? What's your favorite restaurant to go to?

There's not a lot of good food in Boston, I'm not gonna lie.

Uh-huh.

Um, my favorite place though is probably a place called Pammy's.

Pam's.

Pam's.

Pam's.

Pam's.

Sure, go to Boston.

Boston.

Go to Pam's.

Yeah, good old Pammy's. Um, it's pasta, so it's probably— it's like what you expect from Boston, but it's really good. But we've only been once because it cost us too much money. Yeah, to go for 2 people.

Oh yeah.

Isn't it pretty expensive over there?

Yeah, everything's so expensive.

Do you know those stats?

Like, um, the stats?

I knew you posted something.

Yeah, I mean, Massachusetts is the most expensive state in the continental United States to live in. Um, of the all 50, it's like Hawaii and then Massachusetts, but in the continental 48, it's Massachusetts. It's the highest, which is wonderful. Love that. And then Boston is like the 4th or 5th most expensive city in the country. We're talking like our tiny little apartment, no bigger than like this, probably a little bit bigger, maybe not though, is like, it's like $2,700.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, that is crazy. So, and we have like no AC, 4th story with no elevator.

Do you need AC though?

You need AC. Oh, in the summer it doesn't get hot like it does here, you know, but it is like 90% humidity every day. It's miserable.

Yeah, that sucks.

Yeah, it kind of does suck. We're trying to move.

So back here?

No, dude, for dabbling, especially. No, he's going back to Snyder. No, please go back to Snyder. Don't come back.

You like Abilene or Boston better?

Boston.

What about Abilene or Snyder?

Abilene.

Please move to Snyder. I don't want you around here anymore.

Oh my God. Okay, dude. Boston.

Where else have you lived?

Dallas.

In Texas?

Dallas.

Dallas. Dallas.

Denton. Lived in Houston for a little bit.

Do you like Houston better than Abilene?

No, no, I like Abilene more than Houston. I hate Houston.

So out of Texas cities, where's Abilene at on your list?

Um, like out of all of them or just the ones he's lived?

Every city or where you've lived? Lived. Um, I'd say like number 3. Number 3? Dallas, Denton, Abilene.

Denton?

I love Denton.

Just because of UNT or just because of—

No, I love— I lived there for a little bit when I was younger. My brother lives there.

That's an interesting place.

Denton's fun.

Didn't you have some people come from Denton to play some music?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, tell us about that whole thing.

Yeah, so I did, um, this thing called Cabin Dinners.

Okay.

Um, it was these like backyard concert shows. Um, I didn't start them. A good friend of mine started them a long time ago, 10 years ago this year.

10 years, that's crazy, dude.

You're old.

I know, I know. Um, he's almost there. Um, and a friend of mine started it 10 years ago. He, uh, he moved to Dallas and I was moving into a house in 2019. Yeah, it was like, hey, take off, because like all the signs and memorabilia and whatever. So it was, sure, I'll take it. And then a couple friends were like, hey, we should keep doing this stuff, like let's keep doing it. And then we kept doing it and did a show that time. And then 2020 happened and everything shut down and yada yada, um, so we didn't do a show then. And then 2021 we brought it back. Stronger than ever. Yeah, it was great.

So what is a typical, like, cabin night look like?

Um, it's magical. Magic. It's a dream.

It feels like—

it's more like a nightmare. It's my dad.

Uh-oh.

That's okay, I'll call him back in a little bit.

Oh no, I thought it was Ashley for a second.

Put her on speaker, bro.

Hey, we've done it before.

Um, I would put her on. She called me.

Um, oh my gosh.

Um, no, yeah, I mean, it's just we bring in artists and we try to make it like really more intimate and soft and like cozy. We've had a couple shows that are like really big and loud. Yeah, not a lot of them.

Right Field. Did Right Field come?

Right Field. Jack Blocker.

Jack Blocker.

Jack Blocker, a third place in American Idol, right?

Oh my God, number 3 on American Idol. Crazy. I thought he was gonna win.

I didn't watch any of it.

I thought he would win simply because like he had the whole city of Dallas behind him. Yeah, but the others didn't. Like, they're just like 2 random small towns like California and Georgia. I did like all the research, but he didn't win, and I was so— I was so shy.

Oh, we were all sad.

Yeah, he played at 2 Cabins. Yeah, he played at Grain Theory. He played at Harlan Simmons.

He's played Abilene. Like, yeah, yeah, Jack.

We all voted for you.

Yeah, he hates Abilene. It's okay, but wait, we support him.

Yeah, Abilene loves Jack though, that's what matters.

Abilene loves Jack.

Yeah, he, um, so like to get them here for Cabin, we had to like— I had to work with their like manager, and one of the like criteria we had to meet was like buying them a hotel room for both of their shows. We're like, yeah, absolutely. Like, we try to do that either way. We try to like accommodate, really hospitable. Um, and both times, um, they were like, actually, I think we're just going to drive back to Dallas tonight. I think they hated Avlin. I guess so.

And you had to pay those out of pocket.

Yeah. And that was probably, that's when I was like, traveling was fully out of my pocket and everything. So it was like, I bought two hotel rooms for them. And both times they were like, mm, we're okay, thanks though.

I was like, it's like, no, we're good.

So I just like went and slept in the hotel room all by himself. Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, but good old Jack. Yeah, he's a good guy.

He's incredible, man. Seriously. Yeah, yeah, he deserved that. That was incredible.

I was so like, I'm— I— he deserves it, but I was so like surprised. Yeah, that he made it that Dude, seriously.

And he's such a nice guy.

Like, he is a nice—

anybody I've heard about this talk to him, it's like, it's always the same. Like, he's so sweet, you know?

Yeah.

The fact that he's up there is like, heck yeah.

Yeah, you should play with him.

Yeah, one day. Yeah, Jack, come on, if you need a bass player, I got you.

Yeah, he's pretty good, I will say.

He's all right. Oh, I will say I've seen better.

Can I— can you give me that, um, green— there's a green ball over there.

I am better.

In the bucket.

Why are you like this?

What's our time at?

Why am I like this? I— why are you like this?

Dislike the kind of person you choose to be.

I'm only the person I choose to be because of you.

I started hating life the moment you walked in.

Yeah, I know. What is this?

Can you throw me a duck?

Is that a duck? Chicken.

My bad.

Throw me the chicken.

Do not, uh, throw me the chicken.

Do not throw me the chicken.

Okay, you can throw the duck too.

Chicken. Come on. Oh, I'm quicker. I'm better.

These are our gifts for maybe like ASMR.

Welcome to our—

do you give every guest gifts, or was that the stuff we asked for on the rider?

So it was in the contract. You actually have to give those gifts back after the bit.

I will not.

I refuse. You kind of look like you're breastfeeding right now.

Just don't mind me. Hey, mind your business, bro. Let's calm down.

Hey, milky milk, milky milk, dude.

What are these for?

Oh, they're just gifts, little gifts.

Oh, but can I actually give it back?

No, I don't, dude. If you say after the podcast, give me that bow and arrow, I have to give it back.

I'd be mad.

Ooh, can I trade you for the bow and arrow?

No, do not.

Is there more arrows? Oh, they're right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're actually gonna play a game.

Called.

Called. We need some smoke first, please. This game is called Kill the Duck.

Stop.

No, no, leave him alone.

Duck, a metaphor for Evans, for Josh.

Shoot Evan. Shoot him first. It's him or me.

Choose.

But there's a twist. We actually have a duck costume for Josh to put on.

It's not happening.

And it's right here. We're gonna have you put it on, okay?

Yeah, sure, I believe you. It's not— guys, there's no duck costume.

I'm just kidding, there's no duck costume. We don't haze RKS. You could, but what we do need to do— and there he goes.

What's going on over there?

So we do actually have a duck costume. A costume, okay? And it's— he's putting it on right now.

He's having a hard time. It like fits his face perfect.

And basically all we're gonna do is we're gonna see who can hit Josh harder with the bow and arrow. Who can get the most solid hit. Yeah.

Okay.

Do I have any say in this, or is it too late?

It's too late.

That's a good look on you.

Thank you.

All right, so I'm gonna go first since I'm the host. I'll get a little further back.

Yeah, okay, for sure.

So you're gonna just hold the duck.

Put—

actually, can you balance the duck on your head?

I'd rather not, but I'll try. It's the best I can do, bro.

Okay, so we're just gonna try to hit the duck off of Josh's head, okay? All right, so we just get one shot.

Okay.

Okay, I'm gonna go first. Headshot.

I mean, he didn't shoot it.

Headshot, man.

Yeah, you can. I can move?

You can do whatever you want, dude. It's the Howdy Podcast.

Howdy, howdy, howdy. It's on tape. That's cool. Ready?

Hold it on your head, bro.

Got this. Ow!

Can I sue?

Is that possible?

No.

Can I—

we have lawyers that will beat your lawyers.

Well, I mean, Evan can't afford lawyers though.

Josh, you can take that off if you want.

No, I'm kind of comfortable. Okay. Have you seen the episode of The Office where he's like, yeah, you're going to CPR mask Oh God.

So speaking of costumes, what were you for last Halloween? What did you dress up?

Oh, I was, uh, uh, a Ninja Turtle.

Were you really?

Yeah, somebody gave me a purple mask and I bought it.

So you were the purple one?

Yeah, I was playing a gig that night at a bar in DeBellum and I was like, I need a costume. My friend was like, I got you, bro.

Picture?

No, I don't. I'm sorry, it was very, very low-key. Great night though.

So you were Donatello the Ninja Turtle playing the bass guitar?

That was it.

That was it.

Okay, what about the year before that?

The year before, uh, was it 2022? I think I was a taco. I have like a go-to taco costume of Warren since 2018.

That—

oh, bro, the year before I was a street taco, and it was the exact same costume but I had tattoo sleeves.

So good.

And then you had a bandana and a bandana. I did have a bandana, so it was a street Prison Josh. Probably another taco. It was a lot of tacos.

Were we together 2020 Halloween?

Uh, no.

Oh, you went to a party and you met us later?

I did go to a— I went to two parties.

Wait, what was this for?

Halloween?

Yeah, you wouldn't know, you weren't there.

Yeah, I wasn't even born yet.

Should have been there. Yeah, yeah, because you're like 12, bro.

You're a baby.

What about you, Evan? What were you for Halloween?

I don't even remember.

Um, because you spent last Halloween in Boston, probably.

Boston. I don't think we did. We do anything? I don't think I did anything for Halloween because he sucks.

No one invited him anywhere.

And then the year should have been a coffee bean, bro. Coffee bean. I feel like I was— I don't even remember where.

Can we bleep that out? I know we're all, we're all there, but that's not— whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I've said worse.

That's fine.

Improve it. Show me.

No, demonstrate. Um, I think— I don't know. I don't know the last time I dressed up for Halloween. In 2020, I was sad for Halloween.

You were sad?

I was sad for—

that's a funny costume, like the emotion.

No, like I was just like sad.

Can you tell us what happened?

No.

Can you go into detail?

Please go into details.

Now's the time.

I think you should name drop too.

That'd be a great event to the world.

Come on, it's time.

Let's not do that.

Dude, this is your platform.

My platform?

This is my podcast?

Yes.

Thanks for joining. We have one more question and then we'll wrap it up.

All right.

I'm just going to ask each of you, and we'll start with Evan.

What's up?

What's the craziest thing that's ever happened to you?

Craziest thing that's ever happened to me? Um, nothing. Sorry, J's eyes go massive.

I'm sorry, I was thinking. I was like, there has been things I've done There's a lot of stuff I could—

I'm sorry, are we talking about the craziest thing that's happened to me or the craziest thing I've done?

Either, whatever's crazier. Um, funny, it could be sad, you know, for spooky, it could be spooky.

We got some spooky stories. Okay, speaking of Halloween, you know, when I was in 8th grade, right? Oh boy, I was in 8th grade, I was at my— I was living— me and my mom were terrifying. Terrified. Me and my mom were living with my grandma at the time in the house that my great-grandparents built in Snyder, Texas. It was the first— fun fact— it was the first house in Snyder, Texas to be built with electricity because my great-grandfather worked for like an electric company or something. I don't know. So that's cool. But anyway, they both died in the house, my great-grandma and my great-granddad.

Um, oh, oh, our POG machine just went off randomly.

Something's going on.

Something spooky's happening.

Something's going on. Um, so there's like lots of things that go in with this. There was like my grandma, she had this attachment to like this really old big television set. Yeah. And she always used to say, she said, when I die— and she died years before this, but she was like, when I die I'm taking that TV with me. And like, yeah, okay, Granny. And okay, but the day she died, the TV, like, it worked perfectly fine. But then the day she died, that was weird. You see that?

Yeah, that was weird.

The lights.

It's Darren's fault.

Oh my God. What's going on? What are you doing? It's just— it's Granny.

Granny. Granny. Granny. Are you here?

Continue.

Blink once.

When I— so the TV that she loved so much, just— she said she would take it with her the day she died. And the day she died, stopped working. TV just stopped working. Like, nobody knows why. Super weird. That is super spooky. That's not the worst though, it gets worse. Um, oh, and then That was like when I was like in 5th grade, right? This is really spooky, really spooky, bro. Um, and then when I was— that all happened when I was like 5th grade, something like that, long, long time ago. And then when I was in 8th grade, it was around Christmas time. She died around Christmas time. One of my aunts, she was always— she's always said this thing, it's like, I have this connection with like the spiritual world and I know when there's like ghosts us. It's like, okay, okay, you got it. Um, which maybe, maybe that's a thing, I don't know. But she, she says she used to always say like, Granny's here with us this Christmas, she's gonna be with us this Christmas, because she died around Christmas. And we're always like, yeah, okay. But this was like the first Christmas that we were like living with my grandmother in my great-grandmother's house a few years after she died. Yeah. So it's around Christmas. I'm out of school. No, I'm not out of school yet, actually. But we, we're all hanging out. We're in like the living room. There's like living room, kitchen connection, and everyone's in the living room. They're watching TV. I'm hanging out with my grandma. Me and my grandma come out of the kitchen and sit down on the dining table. We sit down and then I just hear— I don't think anything of this, but I just hear like, like an elder lady, like, you know, like you just have like an older lady say, "Why hello." It's like, "Why hello?" And I just look at my grandma, I was like, "What did you say?" And she's like, "What are you talking about?" I was like, "I heard you say something, but I didn't." And she's like, "I didn't say anything." So I swear I just heard like an older lady say, "Why hello." And my aunts and my mom and my grandma just stop what they're doing. They're like, "What did you just say?" like, I just heard an older lady say, 'Why, hello,' like clear as day. Like, literally, like, it's Josh behind me talking kind of clear. Like, it's that kind of clear. Hello. And that was terrifying.

Yeah.

And then they go on to tell me, they're like, that's so wild because your great-grandma, that's how she greeted people. When she would see somebody she knows and loves, she goes, "Why, hello." Um, so weird. And then, and then there's one more, one more thing. The same Christmas, um, the same Christmas, like about a couple days later or something like that, um, it was in the morning and my mom— it was like raining, so my— we usually walk to school, it's like 3 blocks, so, but it was raining, so I was like, I'll drive you real quick. You got it. And then she comes back and she goes, she's trying to get ready for work, but the bathroom door is suddenly like jammed and nobody else is home. My grandma, she drives a bus, so she's out riding, driving the school bus, getting kids where they need to go. But there is like, so like you have the bathroom door that opens into the bathroom, but then right behind the bathroom door you have like drawers that pull out. And if you open the drawers, you can't open the door. Right? When she gets home, all the drawers are like pulled open and she can't get into the door. Um, or she didn't say all of them, she said like the two closest to the door. There was like 5 or 6, something like that, but like the ones that were closest to the door were opened and she couldn't get in. She had to get like one of my drumsticks from percussion and shove her arm in and like push them. And then she like opened it to see what it is, and then the drawer was a bunch of old newspapers that my great-grandmother would always reread. She would save them and then reread them when she got bored. That's probably one of the wildest things that happened to me. That's, that's a lot.

I think that deserves some fog.

I need some fog.

Wow.

Wow.

Well, rest in peace, Granny.

Yeah, just like that. Perfect.

Rest in peace, Grandma. Wow.

Can you top that?

Not even close. Not even remotely. I, I'm not even gonna try. You have to, uh, One time me and my older brother definitely probably saw a UFO, but it's not— oh, it's not near as long of a story or as cool, honestly. Granted, but did you get a picture? No, because it was like this weird— I see. Yeah, but nobody ever gets a picture. I agree, bro. Well, it's just happened. Sorry, my bad. Uh, yeah, I should have, but I think I was like 12, my older brother was like 15, and we always had this thing in the summer where occasionally we'd go and chill out on the roof together because it's like our edgy— you know, we were pretty straight edge, so our edgy, yeah, let's do something cool, was let's sit on the roof, you know, just chill and talk. And I remember one time we were facing one particular side of my house, like facing the moon, and it's getting a little later, it's like 10 PM or something like that, you know, late for a church kid, right? But, and then we're just talking, and then out of the corner of my eye I see this like glowing orbiting like saw thing, and I was like No, okay, it's time to go to bed. I'm tired. I look up and I look at my brother and he's like— I was like, did you see? He's like, yeah, 100%. Like, he saw what I did. It was like the glowing thing that's spinning. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, okay. And we look up and instantly it just kind of like disappears, gets to like the size of a star. And I was like, okay, we were just playing tricks on us, right? Nothing crazy. But we see this thing like take off headed toward the moon. It does like this somersault, little like twirly, goes this way, dips behind a star, and we just lose it. Like, like it was gone. It was weird. Again, not as cool as like, you know, Grandma with the stuff, but like very brief. But after that I was like, what is happening?

That's wild. Yeah.

And you didn't get a video?

No, I didn't get a video.

Yeah.

So what year was this?

No, gosh, I was probably like, it was somewhere between like 10 and 13 years old.

Which brother?

Older brother.

Like, he will agree with it. He was there. Huh?

Did they even have color TV back then?

Back in 1957? No, they did not. Yeah, I think this was during JFK's presidency, maybe.

I don't know, it's been a while, man. Few years off.

Well, sheesh, I'm—

what can I say, dude?

My memory's going. My memory ain't what it used to be, bro.

Don't you have a bachelor's degree?

Dude, it's funny because Evan's only 6 months younger than me, so if I'm old, he's, he's following, bro.

Yeah, but at least I remember JFK's presidency.

Yeah, but you look 35 and I look 26. There's a difference.

What the crap is that supposed to be? You look old. Okay, I'm serious.

But yeah, I definitely saw a UFO. Didn't believe in UFOs, but yeah, you do. I have one of those stories, but you saw one? Yeah, I guess so, but I was like What else could it be?

I have one of those stories.

Lightning bug.

It could have been a lightning bug, that's true. I thought about that, but there's usually none in Abilene. I haven't seen any lightning bugs in Abilene, seriously, ever.

My crazy story.

What is your crazy story?

Has to be like that, or it doesn't have to be like that.

Has to be depressing.

Has to make me cry. I want to feel something.

I want to cry. I just want to feel something.

It's been a while.

It's been—

hey, you just got engaged.

Whoa, nothing crazy has happened to me.

Dude, come on, you can do better than that.

Y'all remember the clowns in 2016?

I saw some of those.

You saw some clowns?

Did you actually?

I never saw one. Actually, there was one on Hardin-Simmons Camp because it was my freshman year at Hardin-Simmons. Um, there was a— I do know there was a couple and we got like alerts on like from IHSU security staff and they were like Hey, like, there's a clown on campus, everybody stay indoors. That's crazy. That's so—

stay indoors, there's a clown.

Yeah, it's ridiculous when you think about it.

Wait, what year was it?

2016.

Oh, so you were like 5 years old probably, right?

High school.

Yeah, no, you were like still in diapers probably, bro, trying to learn how to potty train.

Barely potty trained, Darren.

Oh, 2016. No crazy stories?

Nothing really crazy happened to me.

No aliens?

No ghosts.

No ghosts.

I wish.

Uh, serial killers.

No clowns.

No, like, crazy car accidents.

I mean, I killed a man once.

Oh, tell us that.

Can we, uh, break that down real quick?

No, the craziest thing is probably, um, just, you know, migrating from Mexico. You know, my family.

You did not.

Well, my grandparents did.

Your grandparents did, bro.

Yeah, not too crazy.

Dang, I'm sorry.

I have a boring life. Well, I just sit here in this box and hit record, talk about things I could be doing.

Dude, you've peaked.

This is it then. That's good news. I mean, this is the most exciting thing of your life, bro.

You've made it. The rest of us are still searching.

But dude, you, you found it, man.

I found that thing that's not crazy. Anyways, thanks for joining today. I think we're probably— I think we're at around an hour right now, but so I think we're gonna wrap it up.

Um, yeah, I gotta get back.

Where can they find you on social media if they want to follow you, follow your crazy adventures, your ghost stories?

Oh my gosh, uh, Josh Secka, that's my Instagram. Okay, follow me. That's it.

What, are you gonna shout out any bands?

Shout out to Lover, the Taylor tribute— Taylor Swift tribute band, and Parker Ryan.

Wow. Instagram page?

They do both have Instagram pages, Parker Ryan and Lover, a Taylor Swift tribute band.

Yeah, you know, Josh and I have been trying to start—

we are actually, yeah, we're like, like 7 years. We've been— hey, yeah, I'm just— but thing is, that one was gonna make money.

Remember when we were gonna start a band? Lakeside.

Lakeside. That was good. We were in there, guys. It could have made money. I could have made it. Yeah, like maybe, maybe $50 each, but it would have made something, bro.

And then I had to go to— I had to be at work every Monday.

I had to go, bro.

Yeah, every single month.

You're working at that point?

Green Theory. Okay.

Yeah, you missed that. Um, no beer and coffee.

I missed the beer. Yeah, we're gonna go grab a beer after this.

We are. I didn't know that, but we are.

I have to go grab—

I have to take that in there. I will take this.

We're locked in, bro. No one's separating me and this thing, whatever it is.

Okay, so Josh Seca and with me, um, it's Evan J.

McGrew.

Evan J. McGrew.

Evan J. McGrew.

And you do— don't you do weddings?

I do weddings. Yeah, you could—

photography.

Photography.

Yeah, so Evan's helped me out with weddings before with photography. I hate doing wedding photography, so I love doing weddings. I do the videos all day.

I hate doing wedding videos.

Match made in heaven.

Too bad he lives in Austin.

Boston. Austin.

Too bad he lives in Boston.

Austin. I could come in.

Yeah, but yeah, yeah, y'all go give him a follow.

EvanMcGrewMedia.com. Page.

Evan J. McGrew Media. Evan J. McGrew, right?

All 12 of his new pages.

Parker Ryan.

Parker Ryan.

Lover Tribute.

Lover Tribute. Yeah. And you're a lead singer in a band too, right?

Yeah, clearly.

I haven't—

I didn't know that until now, but yes, I guess. Yes, KISS, the band.

KISS Tribute.

All KISS tribute band and Aerosmith tribute band.

Uh, Ozzy Osbourne.

Ozzy Osbourne. Crazy Train.

Da dun da dun.

Aye! Aye aye. Well, I don't know that anybody's going to buy tickets to that, but maybe you could get away with some free shows.

Yeah, you're probably right.

When's the next cabin?

I don't know.

Is there going to be a next cabin? I don't know. Next October.

This year?

It's not next October.

November is 10 years. Like, and it's on a Saturday, so like it lines up perfectly.

You have to have it.

I want to have a 10-year birthday party for the cabin. I just don't know what to do or who to bring, or like, it's hard because music fest, that's what I want to do. I want to do a music fest so bad. It's hard when I'm like 1,700 miles away. A lot of effort, dude. If I lived here, it'd be easier. Um, I've been working with like Alex Gouveia, Mac Mascaro. They both just like got married, so it's awesome. And now I'm getting married, so everybody's getting married.

We're all like, where's all the money? Yeah, um, I'm, uh, this little guy. Well, you see, when I went to Japan, uh, I'm kidding, it was a joke. There's no mail-order brides. No, I'm kidding, I was a joke. There's no mail-order brides, okay? It's not happening. I'm not bringing a woman from— male order, not mail order. M-A-I-L-E. M-A-L-E. Yes. No mail order brides, right?

That's fair.

No, we're, we're happy. This is my son. This is me and him against the world.

No, just breastfeeding every day.

No, you—

dude, you're so brave.

Don't talk to me or my son like that ever again.

Anyways, anyway, thanks for joining. Go give him a follow on Instagram. We'll see you in the next episode. Peace.

Woo!