Upgrade Spotlight: Probiotics to Power the Gut-Brain Axis – Omni-Biotic : 974
3 Sept 2022 · 35 min
This is a podcast episode titled "Upgrade Spotlight: Probiotics to Power the Gut-Brain Axis – Omni-Biotic : 974" recorded in September 2022. It features a conversation between Dave Asprey, the host of the Human Upgrade podcast, and Carrie Glassman, a certified dietetic nutritionist representing Omni-Biotic. They discuss the benefits of specific probiotic strains designed to improve stress management, cognitive function, liver health, and detoxification through the gut-brain and gut-liver axes. The episode includes detailed explanations of probiotic delivery mechanisms, clinical studies supporting the products, and practical advice on gut health and supplementation.
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You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. Formerly Bulletproof Radio, a state of high performance. You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey. Today is an Upgrade Spotlight edition where I bring on a guest to talk about a specific product they make would benefit you. It could save you time, increase your energy, improve your performance. These are shorter episodes that just let you know who makes it, is it real and would I use it and do I use it? And you're going to learn a lot in a short period of time from someone who cares enough to put their life behind something. In this episode we're going to talk about probiotics that do something other than give you a healthy gut. Specific strains that control stress and detox. And our guest is Carrie Glassman, who has a whole bunch of letters after her name, including rdms, CDN and opqr. Oh, no, that's just the Alphabet. What does CDN anyway carry?
Just Certified dietetic Nutritionist.
Nice. And you're with Omnibiotic, the company that makes a couple of these strains, which is why it's an Upgrade Spotlight.
Yes, I'm supporting Omnibiotic today. Very excited to be working with them.
And listeners may have seen you on a bunch of different top media outlets because you're a well known educator on health and food and things like that. So let's get right into it. Probiotics, everyone listening knows what they are. So what's different about stress management?
Yeah, so your listeners, of course, definitely know what probiotics are. We know that those are the beneficial bacteria that offer a benefit. Right. To the host, which would be you or me, whoever's taking them. Right. And what is different about Omnibiotics stress formula is that it is targeted, it is multi strain and it's the delivery mechanism that really differentiates it from other probiotics on the market. It is targeted, it is multi strain and it's the delivery mechanism that really differentiates it from, from other probiotics on the market. So I've been talking about probiotics and the microbiome and prebiotics and gut health and all of that for many, many years. And I always like to give people tools and actionable tips that they can incorporate into their life, not just once in a while, not just when they're on vacation, but on a daily basis. And they can be consistent with, so they can, and, but that they're not difficult to add in so that they can see real changes. And so something like taking a supplement is often an easy thing to do. And of course, though I'm a dietitian, nutritionist, I always believe in food first. But I'm a big believer that there's a time and a place to supplement. And some supplements are more effective than others. And if you're gonna bother to spend your money and take the time to take one, we want them to be effective. And I have found that this product, which is why I'm so excited to be working with omnibiotic, to be incredibly effective. And it's really that delivery mechanism that is what really differentiates it and then the multi strain aspect of it. And also that they are all clinically tested, not just the individual strains, but the actual formula in each of their products.
Okay, so you got a bunch of things going on in there. And the last one maybe is most interesting for listeners. There's something called polypharma, which is a study of how multiple pharmaceuticals interact. And we're now taking that computational technology and applying it to strains of probiotics to say, well, if probiotic one does something and probiotic two does something, if you add them together, one plus two might not equal three, it might equal four. And so we're figuring out how to do that, which is cool. The other thing that you talk about is delivery system. Most people, like I took a probiotic, I don't know, it was a pill or it was whatever. But here's the thing, if you ate something and you didn't digest it, you'd probably still be hungry, right? So it turns out it's not how much of a supplement is in a pill, it's how much of a supplement did your body get out of the pill. It's one of the reasons, for instance, if you look at eating some plant based protein, it doesn't absorb as well as animal based protein. So you can't say 10 grams of animal protein is the same as 10 grams of plant protein because they do different things. It's about delivery system. And with the probiotics from omnibiotic, what's different about the delivery system to get the live bacteria where they need to go?
I'm going to answer that, but I wanted to go back to one thing you said about polypharma and different strains and, and different compounds working together. Because that's a really important point. You can think about a formula of probation probiotics working together. Like you just said, one plus one doesn't always equal two, it might equal four. I love that example because many people are aware of, you know, having something like vitamin C as A supplement alone is very different than getting vitamin C from food. That doesn't mean that you might not need to supplement with vitamin C at some point, but getting it in the food form, in that whole food form, you also don't know, or we do know some, some ways that that vitamin C interacts with other compounds and makes it more effective. So, so in that same way it's really analogous to how these probiotic strains are working together to be more effective. So I just wanted to touch on that because I'm glad you brought that up. So as far as the delivery mechanism, what's different is most probiotics that people are taking are freeze dried and they're in a capsule. Right. Many people, I'm sure all your listeners have taken one of those. So what happens is that capsule, that capsule usually makes it through the oral cavity and it usually gets to probably the stomach or maybe the beginning of the small intestine, but it doesn't necessarily make it any farther. Right. And so then what happens when that capsule opens up? The bacteria in there need to be hydrated to be activated. So then it's hydrated with mostly what type of environment?
An acidic environment, Stomach acid for hydrating here.
Oh wait, yeah. Oh wait, no, not so much. So only about 7% of the live bacteria. So the live probiotics actually make it to where it's supposed to go. And there, there's been testing on that and testing of probably the top, I think it was the top 10 probiotics in the country and only about 7% survive. That's why actually many probiotics, you'll see they have seven. So many, you know, there's so much in there, right? The quantity is so high because they know that much of it is not going to survive. So then there's also another type of probiotic which many people are aware of, the spore types of probiotics and those do a better job at surviving that acidic environment. They do do a better job. So that's great. But they're not human strains. So they don't, they come from the soil. They do not come from. They're not the same as our innate good bacteria in our gut. So they don't colonize, they're more transient. So we're not going to get and reap all those benefits. So that's a problem. So you've got the traditional probiotics in the capsule, then you've got the spores. So what, what omnibiotic does that's different is they come, it's freeze Dried. So it's that same freeze dried mechanism, but it comes in a packet. And what you do is you take that packet and you mix it with about 4 ounces of water. Or you can use non, you can use milk or non dairy milk or yogurt, but water is going to be best. So it hydrates and you leave it in that water for about a minute and it hydrates. So those, so the bacteria, the good bacteria in that, the powder are hydrated in that neutral environment and they come, so they come alive. So they are hydrated there plain. Plus the mixture also comes with a specific prebiotic that those probiotics feed on and that actually even increases their strength even further. So when they get to where we want them to go, to the lower portion of the small intestine and the colon, they have survived. About 83% have survived. So they work, they are effective now. 83% to some people might say, well that's not good, I want 100%. But compared to that 7%, that's really good. I'd say that's more than really good. That's amazing.
It doesn't matter. Perfection is ridiculous. You don't need to do that. You just need to get enough in to make a difference. And you're talking about like 12 times as much survival this way. And it doesn't taste like much of anything. So you can just mix it in and drink it, you're fine and then you're getting this. But what you're getting too is different because the stress management called stress release from omnibiotic has, well, you could call it a psychobiotic actually, which is a brand new kind of probiotic. Tell me about psychobiotics, what are those?
Yeah, so psychobiotics are going to be specific probiotics that are going to work on the gut brain access. So this specific, this specific probiotic really is going to help you with everything from. It has been shown, it's been clinically tested to help with mood, memory, focus, concentration. So when we're stressed, right what happens? I mean many things happen. We know stress is bad for many different reasons. But one thing that happens is that our good gut bacteria dies. Not all of it, but some of it dies. And we know that we need a rich, healthy, diverse microbiome, right? We need that rich microbiome filled with, there's always going to be a balance of good and bad bacteria, but we need a certain amount of that good bacteria to, right to be healthy. And so when we're, when we're stressed, a lot of that good bacteria dies. And then what happens is when that continues and this stress can be from anything, from financial stress, relationship stress, physical stress, bodies are over exercising, medications, toxins. That stress can come from a variety of things. And when we are continually stressed like that and more of that good bacteria dies, what happens is we have inflammation in our gut. And that inflammation, that constant inflammation can lead to that leaky gut, which many people have heard of, and that leaky gut. What happens there is that things get into our bloodstream that we don't want in our bloodstream. Things like toxins and food particles that haven't been fully digested. So just many things enter that bloodstream that is, you know, we know, leads to systemic inflammation and a whole bunch of other problems. Everything from IBD to it can increase the risk of. I mean, we know there's, there's multiple things that can happen there. We don't need to go. I don't want to go. I'm going on a, I'm going on too much of a tangent there. But many things can happen from leaky gut, so including, by the way, affecting our mood and cognition and all. And brain fog, you hear about that all the time with leaky gut. But anyway, back to the stress formula. So the stress formula specifically targets the good gut bacteria that we know that we need to, that works with our brain to help with everything from mood, again, memory, focus, concentration. It also helps to increase the strength of the gut lining so that intestinal permeability is, the integrity is improved so that things won't leak through. So it helps in a variety of ways.
I love it. And more and more and more studies have come out that show that specific strains can affect neurotransmitter levels, inflammation in the brain. So this emerging category of psychobiotic is interesting. You stack that with a delivery system that works. And I think omnibiotic has a really interesting new focused thing. And what I like to teach people, as someone who took, well, I took antibiotics for 15 years because I had chronic strep throat and I just wrecked my gut. It was such a problem for so long. You got to figure out which foods are just not compatible with you and get rid of those. But most of us have been on antibiotics or taken antibiotic tainted meat. So you have a disrupted microbiome and you can work on healing that with probiotics in general, prebiotics, maybe 7% of them get there or something. But you have the opportunity to install certain species that do specific things. It's like in a video game Say I want to get this ability. So then you say, all right, I want the one that helps me manage stress. So you get the omnibiotic stress release, which is the specific strains that are designed for that. If resilience is what you were looking for, oh, I can handle more stress. Isn't that great? But there's something else that you're doing at Omnibiotic called He Talks, which is an interesting name in and of itself. And is there like a Her talks? What's the deal?
No, that's a good question. But no, there's not one other one. Actually. Just I'm going to go to He Talks to see you're bringing up all these interesting topics that I just want to touch upon. So before we go to that, I just want to mention one thing too. Is that the other thing that I think not everybody always knows, again, your listeners are really smart. They may know this, but we know that there's hundreds of billions of neurons in the brain. There's also about 500 million neurons in the gut. So again, remember, and that gut brain access, it goes two ways, right? So your, your brain is affecting your gut, your gut is affecting your brain. And from everything that, that, that's why it's so incredibly important to maintain the, that healthy microbiome and to have a healthy balance of good. And you know, obviously we also have the bad too, but to have that healthy balance. And I also want to remind people too, as far as again, mood and stress and concentration and you know, memory and cognition and all that goes, that gaba, you know, the GABA and serotonin are made in the gut. And many people, again your listeners may know that, but some people don't realize that. And we know that we need GABA to be calm, to reduce anxiety, stress and to be calm. And serotonin, obviously we know we need for many reasons, but one thing also that people don't even realize is serotonin. We usually think of it as that happy, feel good neurotransmitter, but it actually also plays a role in digestion and gut health. So it's interesting when you think about how just how closely connected the gut and the brain are. So I just wanted to go back to that for a moment, but I will get to. He talks. So he talks. You can edit me out there if you want, if that was too much, but I wanted to just touch on that because I get very excited about the gut brain access and there's just so much we can go there. It's hard to just Talk for a few seconds. I was trying there to give you a really quick answer before, but it's hard because this topic is just really incredibly fascinating anyway, and it's complex.
And our job is to somehow go through the complexity so people know. All right, this is the thing that's most likely to work. So that's where I should start. And, guys, I'll just tell you straight up. If you try something and you give it a good amount of time and it just didn't work for you, it doesn't mean the product doesn't work. It just means it wasn't right for your biology and then you can try something else. So that's the idea here, is we're looking to save you a ton of energy and time on sorting through the stuff that's likely to work for you. And if you take it like nothing happened, that's okay, finish taking it and do something else. But I think you're going to have a great chance of noticing a substantial difference because that delivery system and the specific strains equals better stress. Or in the case of this new one, he talks. Whatever the heck that is. I mean, I know, but do tell me.
All right, yeah. Omnibiotic. He talks Is specially designed to improve liver function and improve liver health. And detoxification.
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Key Tox is specially designed to improve liver function and improve liver health and detoxification. So the gut and the liver are directly connected by the portal vein. So just like the gut and the brain are connected, the gut and the liver are connected. So if the gut barrier becomes leaky like we already talked about, when there's continued stress and there's continued inflammation and the gut becomes leaky, there's an increasing amount of waste that travels onto the liver and the liver becomes overburdened. So by strengthening the gut barrier. He talks. So again we're using specific strains here in he talks he talks reduces the toxic load on the liver and the circulating toxins in the body. Because when there are too many of those toxins, one of the reasons what happens there is that not only are you, do you have more toxins in the body and is there more inflammation? And does inflammation we know is linked to everything from heart disease, cancer, neuronal degeneration, all sorts of conditions. But, but we also know that this can lead to weight gain. And sometimes people might not understand the connection there, but the reason the toxins can lead to weight gain is because the liver has to do something with all those toxins. And so what it does is when it's overburdened, it stores it in fat cells. So anyway it can lead to, so there's a lot that happens there. So this strain from Omnibiotic, Omnibiotic Ketox is specific for improving the overall gut microbiome to improve that balance, that gut barrier so less toxins become, you know, go, are leaked through and that helps maintain the integrity of the, of the gut barrier but also improves overall liver health. So if you have been living, you know, a super stressful lifestyle, you're not eating healthy, or maybe you, you're drinking a lot, or maybe you drink a lot, you drank for years a lot of alcohol and you're trying to, you really improve your overall health and you're trying to detox. This would be a great one for you. Or perhaps you've been on prescription medications. Prescription medications. We know the liver has to detoxify those medications right after we metabolize them. The liver is involved there. And so perhaps you've been doing that, you've been on a lot of medication and you want to improve your lever, improve your liver health. This would be a very good one for you. And there is actually on He Talks specifically there was, and there's studies also on stress release as well. There's clinical double blind, randomized studies as well. But there's a specific one for He Talks which was, this was a randomized double blind study of 61 individuals who were recently diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. And omnibiotic ketox was administered daily for six months. And the participants did not make any other changes to their food, medication, et cetera. And the endotoxin levels, body measurements and glycemic measurements, all lipid profile, inflammatory markers, all improved. We're all tracked over time. Improved. There was a 70% reduction in endotoxin levels, a 48% improvement in triglyceride levels, 20% improvement in total cholesterol and a 64% improvement in insulin resistance. So that's what I find incredibly exciting and powerful with these products, is that they are targeted, they're multi strained like you talked about, that poly farmer example. And the delivery mechanism makes them effective.
Like if I had to, you know, pick only one, I think He Talks is going to be more systemic and I think stress release is going to be more cognitive and brain functioning. But since systemic includes the brain, you know, you kind of want both. Something else that people don't know much about is bile acids. Can you talk a little bit about bile? It sounds like a weird thing when we're getting into probiotics. But do we know what he talks does to bile release and tell me why bile is important.
Yeah, so actually, wait, that's funny that you went, he talks first, though, because I was gonna say I go stress first because I'm so focused on cognition and mood and brain health. And I don't drink much alcohol. I mean, obviously there's. Everybody has toxins in their body, so the liver is always working and. Exactly. And I know I'm. I know I'm exposed to toxins, so I'm saying I don't really drink much alcohol. I don't take medications, by the way. That's not a rule that I never take them. I just don't on a regular basis. So I think. And I'm so focused on, again, mood and cognition and anyway, maybe so I go there first. But you're right, the way you described it, I mean, that makes sense. And for many people that might be the way to go. So, yeah, as far as bile goes. So we need bile to break down fat. Right. So bile. Bile plays an important role in terms of breaking down. In terms of breaking down fat. And so that is. Yeah, so that is very important.
Got it. We need bile to break down fat, and we also recirculate those toxins that are made in the body or even that come from mold or lime or any of the fat soluble toxins, the endocrine disruptors, they get recirculated through bile. So if you can improve liver function, you can improve bile flow, you improve toxin release. And that's a big part of what helped me lose £100, was getting my liver and my gut working so that when toxins made it past my gut, which they always do, the liver was there to handle it. So I love the idea of adding a new ability to your bacteria set to be able to improve that and the systemic effects there. You're like, wow, is it stress or is it toxins? My belief is that huge numbers of people think they have an anxiety problem or a stress problem, but they have a gut and a toxin problem, which is why I'm leaning towards. He talks. It's like, well, maybe your anxiety will go down because you remove the source of chemical anxiety and then you add in the stress resilience. You're like, whoa, what just happened? But it could go either way. That's why it's kind of interesting.
Well, right. And it's all individual. Right? It's all. It's all individual. And, you know, what works for you isn't necessarily going to work for someone else that's even your exact age, you know, height, weight, all that. Right. Same lifestyle. It's not necessary, it's not going to work. Even if they on paper have the same exact, you know, stats and lifestyle. And what works for me is certainly not necessarily, certainly not going to necessarily again, work for you, and, you know, vice versa. So it really is an individual approach. And there's also a little bit of trial and error. Right. And the other thing I always like to remind people too is what worked for you at one point might not work for you in a year or five years. You might need to adjust what you're doing. I mean, we know that we, as we, as we age, we can age healthy and we don't have, we don't, we have, we can stay strong and vibrant and energetic, but we're aging and things are changing and hormones are changing and so what we eat, how we work out, what supplements we take, we may need to adjust. So that's also something to consider that it's not just there's an individual approach, but for the individual, we also need to remember that we need to adjust from time to time and be consistent. So you really know if something is working or not working.
I love it that you talked about adjusting. And so many people say, I'm just going to do the same thing every day no matter what, for years. And you just don't need to do that. You need to say, how is what I'm doing now working and am I getting better over time, staying the same or getting slightly worse? And the problem with humans is that we're really good at short term decision making. So when I went vegan, like, great, I feel really good. And you will feel good for about six weeks, but by six, you're weeks. I've already convinced myself that this is what to do. So for the next year and a half, I'm punching myself in the face with a vegan diet, wondering why I'm getting worse and worse. It's probably because I'm not raw enough or vegan enough and I need more kale and my kidneys are still sad that I did that. So the bottom line is you can adjust based on what's happening and that's a big deal.
Absolutely, absolutely. And you also need diversity too, which is one of the things also about. You need diversity of foods, you need diversity. You know, I always tell people, diversity with exercise, diversity with food, diversity with your probiotics in terms of like the strains. Like you need diversity, you need to Shake things up. So like you just said, if some, sometimes people do, they, they get into a routine of doing something and consistency is great and routine is great to a certain extent, but there needs to be a certain amount of shaking things up and adjusting and diversifying what you're doing. So again, people ask me that all the time actually, can I eat the same food every single day? Can I do that? Is that okay? And I say, well, if it's going to help you get into a healthy routine, do it for a little while, but then take those foods and swap them out. Swap out that grass fed meat for another high quality protein. Swap out that green vegetable for another green vegetable. So it can be helpful, but we need to shake things up. And same thing with. That's one of the reasons I talk about shaking things up with food too, is because we need a variety of foods and a variety of plant foods. I do like my grass fed and finished meat, by the way, but we need a variety of plant foods to feed our microbiome, our microbiota. We need to feed our gut bacteria with fiber to create short chain fatty acids. Because those short chain fatty acids, which we know are known as those postbiotics, which could be a whole other chat, but postbiotics are super important for a variety of reasons. But again, that's a whole other chat. I don't know if you want to go down that road. I love talking about short chain fatty acids, but I don't want to go on too much of a tangent again here.
Well, do we have evidence that the omnibiotic strains make short chain fatty acids?
Well, we have evidence that when you have the good gut bacteria, they're going to ferment the fiber in food. Right. They're going to ferment food and you will create those short chain fatty acids. So we know that the omnibiotics, we know that they increase our good gut bacteria, we know that they have the ability to colonize. And so I don't know that we have. Maybe they have, maybe they have a specific, but I don't know that they have a specific study showing the amount of short chain fatty acids. But we know that when we increase the probiotics in our gut, they're able to ferment the fiber from our food, which I always think that that's a really cool thing by the way, that we aren't able to digest fiber. Right. We don't digest fiber. That's why fiber doesn't have calories. But our microbes can.
Yep.
I mean, that's pretty cool.
It's interesting because we have, you know, insoluble fiber that doesn't get very digested, if at all. But the soluble fiber is kind of the magic prebiotic. And I get about 40 grams a day of prebiotic fiber or more from my diet and from adding prebiotics to my coffee. I wrote about that and fastest way and I feel like if I have that kind of a fertile ground for good bacteria, then I take omnibiotic, he talks and stress release and I already know my gut's prepped because I have that stuff just throughout the day and there's just a fertile environment. And there's also prebiotic inside the specific formulas designed for the strains from omnibiotic. So it's kind of a cool thing. And here's some of the studies that I found when you reached out and said, hey, let's talk about this. I have a pretty strong BS meter and there's a high standard and dozens and dozens of companies come every month saying, can you talk about my stuff? And I'm like, there's nothing new or interesting, interesting here. It has to be better. And you've got the delivery mechanisms and multiple strains, but you've also got clinical studies like a bunch of them, including improves memory and cognition. And it's hard to do a claim around that. And when I say do a claim, that means there's a study where independent researchers showed a result here and promotes positive mood in a different study and increases emotional balance via salience network activity, which is actually something we train at 40 years of Zen, my neurofeedback company. When people are looking for emotional balance, we can train salience networks, but you can also take bacteria that affect them. Like, how cool is that? So I found the level of clinical research for omnibiotic was way above average compared to what you see from some of the stuff out there. It definitely met the bar. So I wanted you to be able to talk about those studies a little bit. Tell me more about the studies on the brain, what's going on there.
Yeah, by the way, I have a big BS meter too, so I'm with you there and I totally agree with you. And there's so many products and things out there that don't do what they're supposed to do and people are just trying to sell. And I always said I'm always for a supplement or a new type of a product that's going to do something, but it has to really work. It has to really do what it's supposed to do. Otherwise you can depend on things that we can all just do, you know, on our own. Eat healthy, whole foods, go outside, into nature, exercise, take your, you know, cold showers. There's many things that we can do that we don't need to buy or do anything. Right. And I love all those things too. But if we're going to spend our money and we're going to do something, we want to make sure that not only are they not harmful, but that they're actually going to be effective and they're also, and they're going to be easy to be consistent with, which is what I love about these packets also from Omnibiotics, that you easily can travel with them and that. So when it comes to omnibiotic stress release, I think that's the, those are the studies that you're talking about. They are clinically shown to improve positive mood, memory, focus and concentration. So there was a double blind randomized study that looked at, it was four weeks and it was on the multi strain, multi species probiotic that we've already talked about the specific stress probiotic and it was given to 45, sorry, 45 people were divided into three groups. So there was the probiotic group, the placebo group and the control group. And all participants underwent resting state functional MRI and diffusion MRI brain scans twice during the course of the study. And the results were that there was functional connectivity changes that were observed in, as you mentioned, for increased mental activity in the default mode network. The Salience network which you just mentioned as well was more efficient and there was more targeted attention and then also there was higher cognitive function and working memory. And so I think that's pretty powerful.
It, it's super powerful. And guys, as you know, there's always a code whenever I share something cool for you. Omnibiotic life use code Dave20 get 20% off. And I want to talk about the default mode network for a little while. A lot of people don't know the history of this weird part of the brain because I have a brain science company, I get into this stuff. So we have this ability to pay attention and we used to think that we would turn off our default mode network, which is what our brain does when we're not focusing on something and that we would turn on our focus and we thought we were like this binary switch. And scientists at Oxford figured out almost 20 years ago now that it's actually a slider switch. So like how much of your brain is in default mode versus in focus mode. And it's a fine tuned adjustment between the two. But if you have high default mode network activity when you're relaxing, it means that your brain actually has more energy and it's doing more of its background processing stuff. So the highest performing brains have high functioning default mode networks. And that's something that we can actually tune with training, but something you can also tune with probiotics. It turns out Omnibiotic has figured out how to do that. And then you also are able to radically and quickly switch from default mode to active mode network or that salience mode network for more efficient and targeted attention. So when you have a super brain, like when I'm chill, I'm ultra chill and powerful, and when I'm focused, I dial in quickly, I focus, I get it done, and then I return to default mode network. That's in my mind, part of the definition of human resilience, especially emotional resilience. If you get stuck thinking about something over and over, that's stressful thoughts, that's anxiety. So if a gut bacteria modification can make it so you don't get stuck as easily in active mode network and you go back to default mode, wouldn't that be great? So this is the kind of stuff that's possible. You still need to do your breathing exercises, you still need to learn how to chill, you should still forgive your parents and do all the other kinds of stuff that many spiritual teachers will teach you to do. You go to 40 years Zen, I'll teach you to do it, go to an EMDR practitioner. But wouldn't it make sense to stack it with a probiotic? Feels like it would. So consider that. And that's why omnibiotic.com and use code DAVE20 and you give it a try. And seriously, do both. Get rid of 70% of the endotoxins in your body. That's what the study showed. Endotoxins are made when you digest food and they cause physical anxiety. Let's drop that. And then let's take the strains that help you control your brain in the ways you want. And at the end of the month, just kind of sit down and do a little assessment. How was my month? How happy am I with my life? How happy am I with my career, with my relationships? How much energy do I have? Did I wake up feeling good? And you might be surprised if you track it daily or you just check in once a week with yourself, or if you journal or if you look at your heart rate variability score on one of your trackers. This is real stuff, and it comes from polypharma math techniques applied to polyprobiotic, which is a word I made up in order to create psychobiotics and other things that we don't have words for like cleobiotics. There I made one up that reduce toxins. So he talks is one of the formulas and the other one is called stress release is the other stress release. So it's cool stuff. And Omnibiotic is the company name and I want to thank you, Carrie for coming on and talking about this. This is a quick hit. I hope that this provided a lot of value for listeners because look like there's no BS here. This is just cool new stuff that didn't exist. That exists now because some scientists put their heads together and entrepreneurs and whatever else. So it's worth it. Thank you. You're listening to the Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey.
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