Dave Kashen explores whether companies built on genuine care and collaboration can outperform ruthless competitors. He contrasts two business models, arguing that caring workplaces aren't just better for people—they can also be wildly successful.
Other people think business is the place to go crush people and, you know, or be pirates raiding company, whatever it is. Like everyone has their version of it. And I think some of it is just people pick their version of it and there may or not be a right or wrong version of it. There's just different versions.
And I think some of the impetus for this podcast is to show that this version can be wildly successful too. Because I think there's a tendency to believe that the ruthless, crush everybody. That's what works. And I mean, it'll be a cool case study just to add to your pressure, Andrew, to make Bootstrap Giants work, uh, that, you know, what happens when you have people who actually care about each other as human beings, who actually, dare I say, love each other and want everyone to have it all, to have the things that they want in their personal life, the growth and development and the
