Spiritual Tea Time: Episode 9 - The Christ Letters - Let's talk about sex

No, what's normal. Any—

yeah, exactly. We're learning to just roll with it. So this is what we're doing. All right, now let me— I'm gonna read it because I didn't make slides out of this. I'm just gonna read, um, what he took me to. Okay, I'll share my screen so you can see what I'm reading. Okay, um, and it is Okay, all right, can you guys see it?

Yeah, it's kind of tiny though.

Okay, so this— I'm pulling this off of the Christ Letters and His Other Teachings website.

Um, can you believe— uh, can you increase the size at all?

Put it— you know, we might be able to do that if we zoom in on it a little, I guess.

I can't. Yeah, when she shares a screen, you can't change her screen. Okay.

Yeah. Um, is it from a chapter?

No, this is just, um, it's called Christ Speaks. And you guys, I'll read through it.

Uh, yeah, just go ahead. Let's not get hung up on that.

I'm fine because we got a lot to talk about.

Yes.

So this is Christ speaking. I am the celestial being who gave you Christ's letters in 2000 AD. The articles in Everyday Language and the message Calling for a Higher Vision on October 20th, 2007. And I now come with my most important message yet. And for the sake of all the multitudes who will read this message in the years to come, I will now speak in the most simple words and friendly tones possible. I have come to ask for your trust and to assure you that as you reach out to me, I will send my rays of divine love back to you. I am speaking to you in this relaxed, loving way because I am bringing you a message that will bring joy and thanksgiving to thousands of people of all nationalities who have been torn emotionally by doubts regarding the Christian dogma, but will cause confusion and pain among those people who revere the Christian church. I truly grieve for you, but when you have recovered from these humanly shocking but true, um, revelations, you will be gladly grateful and will wonder why it was not exposed 100 years ago. It must be made available to those who reject my words as being fraudulent and to those who are prepared to think and reason for the sake of ascending to a higher level of spiritual consciousness. Why am I bringing such a message if it will cause much pain? I am bringing it because it is the only means by which new beginnings can be set in motion in the world. It is the only way that mankind generally can be made to realize that no deity will transform man's thoughts and behavior. Only man himself can create a new global social system in which all people are treated equally and with deep compassion and respect. And who work with a happy willingness for both themselves and the common good. Only man could do this for himself, but first of all, he must want to do it. He will only want to do it when he fully understands the hidden laws of the universe as I've explained them in Christ's Letters. You will ask why this wonderful form of utopia has not been established already, and I, the Christ, will tell you truly. It is because Christians worldwide for the last 2,000 years have been praying for the world order to be transformed according to the will of God, but things have only gotten worse. Why is this, you will ask? There will probably be many among you who will now point a finger at me, saying, what good have you been to us? Why haven't you done something about the state of the world? The church says you were crucified for our sins, but what earthly good has that done us? My dear, dear friends, you have spoken truly. I, the ascended spirit of your beloved teacher Jesus, has been unable to change a single thing on your planet or amongst your populations. Listen well and believe me. Christians pray for the will of God to be done, but what does their church believe is the will of their God? 2,000 years of prayers for the world to be rescued by the grace of the will of God to appear have been unheeded by the God of the Holy Bible in the New Testament, but perhaps throughout this time they have been answered. When I was on earth in the persona of Jesus, I taught the people that those who kill by the sword will die by the sword, and you reap what you sow, and love your brother as yourself, and turn the other cheek. People realized I truly meant these statements and that killing was wholly wrong and should not be countenanced under any circumstances. But Christianity, religious ruler of a large section of the world population, which should have outlawed all war for any reason, permitted wars to break out, cities to be destroyed, and millions of people to be killed. Christians have tortured and destroyed one another. Why could this happen if Jesus Christ was truly the Christian leader? I, the Christ, will dare to face the Christian community and tell you why it has happened. My dear, dear people, do you remember that when I walked the earth in the persona of Jesus, I frequently told people, your faith has made you whole, your faith will move mountains, Simply stated, I have said, the kind of life you will experience begins in the mind. The true reason for your downbeat lives plagued by ill health, poverty, enmity, ignorance, and unhappiness is your strongly held fundamental belief system. Your life is fashioned by your deepest and most strongly held beliefs and by those ideas and opinions in which you have a strong— have the strongest faith. In what do the majority of Christians have the strongest religious faith? They believe that their Christian God compassionately decreed that his beloved Son Jesus should be born on earth to a virgin and crucified and killed in order to pay the price for the world's sinning. And as some churches claim, man's sins will be washed clean in the blood of the Lamb. Now, my dear, dear people, are you not reminded of the God of Moses, whose anger against men was appeased by the burning of lambs and birds? Are you not reminded of Solomon's glorious temple, built especially for the people's burnt sacrifices of lambs and birds to plead to their God for leniency and even forgiveness for their constant sinning? What kind of beliefs do these words portray? Belief in wrongdoing of a magnitude worthy of punishment. A belief that it was possible to take the lives of animals, birds, and then Jesus and load them with people's sinning in order to have it completely forgiven. What kind of devious ethic was promulgated here? What does it say about the ethics of the initiators of such belief? What kind of consciousness would such imaginings create, and which such consciousness began to materialize in the events and experiences of the world's Christian inhabitants? Of what kind do you suppose they would be likely to be? Is this not the same God of the Holy Bible, God's sacred word, who sent plagues upon the Egyptians and whose angels killed all the Egyptian firstborn children and animals when the Israelites led by Moses instructed by God escaped from Egypt? My beloved people, this history of the Jews is the great event celebrated in yearly Passover. The Christian church has not outlawed war. How can it when their God has countenanced war as a means of procuring more land for his chosen people and Christians? Can you now see why the chaotic state of the world remains the same despite the prayers of the Christian congregations? And then have you been told that your sins have been washed clean by the blood of the Lamb? And who is the Lamb? Why, yes, it is I who more than 2,000 years ago in the body of Jesus died on the cross. Does it not now become crystal clear why prayers for the will of God to improve world conditions have been answered? Is it— it is the will of the biblical God that killing and slaughter should be an expedient means to settle swiftly a score between nations and people in conflict. I speak specifically and personally to those dear people who are able to set to one side their Christian convictions and review my following question objectively and logically: How do you think I, the Ascended Christ, fully radiating divine consciousness and honest truth in my every thought, have viewed all the untruths spoken by many beautiful, dedicated souls who have truly believed that such a God existed. I have only had the greatest compassion for such people because the truth of existence was unknown to them and they lived in ignorance of their true relationship to the Father. They saw some of the truth of being, but only imperfectly. If only such precious souls, so dedicated to living lives surrendered to the Father, had known the full truth of what I wanted to teach them, they could have surmounted every obstacle and lived in harmony and abundance and shown their congregations how to do the same. And one of the most important things I have dearly wanted to tell you since I died on the cross is this: Sin is a man-made concept. I'm going to say that again. Sin is a man-made concept. It was a belief fashioned in the dark ages of mankind when the ordinary hurts inflicted by one person on another were said to be a sin against God. It was a word first coined to make people feel guilty, to separate the wrongdoers from those who obeyed the laws of the land., and in those terms the word sin was perfectly valid. However, the introduction of God into this equation was mythical and a lie. To learn about the true nature of your source, study my letters. You will see that your source of being is indeed within you, all around you, and filling the skies and all space, but it does not think with a human brain, nor think the thoughts of mortals. How could that which gave you being, that all-encompassing intelligence love from whom you have come, possibly be interested in the little goings-on of your planet or want to punish them? What a pagan concept in this day and age when science has informed you truly that everything in the entire universe and galaxy of stars is basically energy. I have fully explained the nature of this energy in my letters. You may ask why I have returned to give you this message. I have returned and am giving myself a place in the ethers of your planet to help you begin to dissolve all the bad conscious consciousness vibrations which have accumulated from the gross thinking and actions of selfish people. I have come to inform you that a punishing God does not exist. Your source of being is pure love, but you live within a constant, unchanging law: you reap as you sow. Do you realize that this dark black accumulation of enmity and hate-filled consciousness arising from countries, religions, and people gradually manifests as events and experiences on your planet? That's what we're seeing happening right now. And he talks about these events and this time in these letters. How can I not return when you have all— when you have all this accumulation of highly charged consciousness negativity to deal with and the atom bomb threatening your very existence? And when I was in Galilee, did I not promise to return like lightning flashes across the sky? Sky from east to west. Is this not a description of the internet where my letters were first presented to the world? I have come to help you build a higher vision of perfect life on Earth that yields abundantly. A vision of people living in love and harmony, filled with creative ideas and governing, governing with love and compassion, so that all people may be perfectly nourished and educated according to their natural balance. I have told you that it will be impossible to help the world population take part in this great creative adventure if the churches persist in teaching the pernicious Christian dogma and in offering the meaningless form of prayer sent up to a mythical God. I say this to you, beloved people, because I have truthfully and honestly exposed the negative realities behind your deepest beliefs. Only you, beloved people, can bring about change and spiritual growth into divine radiance of being in which divine love reigns supreme. I have done it because there has been no living person who could undertake this great task of cleansing of consciousness for the world because of the risk to themselves. Imagine the anger and chaos if some highly placed individual had dared to speak boldly about the myths and fallacies of sacred Christian beliefs. However, the truth of what I have said is to be found in the Bible, the Old Testament, said to be God's holy word. Read what is said about Jesus's death on the cross and payment of your sinning. Read about the sacrifices and the wars in the Old Testament. Come out of your little caverns of ignorance and mental comfort and discover the truth. No pope or cardinal or archbishop can deny the truth expressed in this message. I beg you, for the sake of a blessed future of the world, to speak amongst your family, your friends, and colleagues about Christ's Way, to work to cleanse the world of consciousness of crime and war, and to establish a divine era of love, peace, and fulfillment of creative talent. I am the Shepherd of Christ's Way, author of Christ's Letters. My letters were given to the world to provide people with the knowledge which was given me during my 6 weeks of illumined consciousness in the desert before I started healing and teaching. They reveal as clearly as possible in your language the true nature of your source of being. They show people how to live love-enriched lives under any circumstance and how to create happy relationships and events. I reveal that our source, although universal, is also personal for us. I said truly when I was on earth, the Father knows your need. Ask and it will be given you. To help you take the first step on Christ's way, I ask all of you— I ask all who feel called to take part in this creation of newness of spirit and spiritualized civilization to read the passage below taken from my Letter 1. They are the words given to me by the Father when I was enlightened in the desert. They are the description of man's own powers of creativity, which he daily uses for his own good or harm. I beg you to read and memorize these words if you can, because I am universally longing for you to leave the illogicality of the Christian doctrine in order to rise into spiritual sanity and joy. You can only hope to achieve this by fully understanding the enormous creative power you potentially possess in your minds to fashion beautiful lives for yourselves. You can become units of radiant energy gradually encompassed during the time you give to prayer and meditation. Can you now see that I, the Christ, have returned to you to do some wonderful good on earth for you, providing I am accepted and acknowledged. So God explained in the desert— we went over this, um, again, it all goes back to the mind, what we think. All right, now that we have that—

wow, Denae, that letter really made me feel emotional. Like he was sitting right here telling, telling me, telling us. I mean, it really, it really got to me.

Yeah, I mean, my cells are tingling and I tear up and it's emotional for me. Yeah, because I'm one that he was speaking about. I believed in that dogma. I preached it. I lived it. I breathed it. And it was, it was intense coming out of that and shedding those beliefs. And he reiterates that in his letters that yes, this is the hardest path you'll ever take, because shedding that dogma, because it is, that is mass consciousness. But here's the other thing. You guys are here. You have been here since the beginning of me teaching this on this platform. Jenny, you prompted me. I had already been taught— it had been, it had been on my heart for about 6 years, and it, it was divine timing when you came to me and said, hey, you need to be talking about this. Because when I tried doing it before, it wasn't well received. And so I was like, okay, the time will come. So we are now what he's talking about— the people, the new leaders who will be demonstrating this in our own lives. The light that you guys are attracted to, that you see that emanates off of me That's the same light that's in you that's just covered over because it is the Christ consciousness.

You know what's weird is I read that 2000 letter out of, out of order yesterday, and I was so moved by it. I heard it two days ago. That's when I started meditating every day And, well, I've made a commitment to do it. And, um, and reciting, re-reciting the, the, the, the rules or the affirmations at the end that he says, right? Tito too. So it's like that letter, it's just perfect timing because I just read that letter yesterday.

Yeah, I'm telling you. Okay, can you guys see my slides? Yes. Okay. Yeah, like, like I said, um, what we're gonna go into now— I mean, I have more slides than I've had before, and then I was all up in my head about, oh gosh, the time, the time, and Jesus, and then he throws this one at me this morning. I'm like, all right, you're right, I, I'm just the mouthpiece, you tell me what to do.

There you go.

So yeah, so that's confirmation. Yes. All right.

And you know, Dr. Denae, what was— it's really helpful it confirms— I guess that's the right word I want to use— how even as a child sitting in Sunday school and church, and then in the more recent years, we went to a Catholic church for a number of years only because the priest is actually quite evolved in the whole, the holistic approach he took, which feeds every aspect of self, the vision, the heart, in whatever. But, but as they would do their, you know, little ritual Angels, you know, the blood of Christ, the, you know, whatever and all that. I would just sit there, I'm like, what are we doing? This is insane. Yeah. And it felt a bit like, oh boy, am I like gonna rock the boat in here? The place is going to crumble, you know.

I know. Yeah, exactly. You know, and that dogma gets so stuck in us. When I was, um, when I died the last time in 2016, as I was leaving my body, and I knew it, I knew what was happening, it was like altered ego showed up. It was like, you better call on the blood of Jesus, that's the only thing that's going to save you. And I'm like almost out of my body, and internally I yelled back at what the voice— because I now I know it was altered ego, I didn't at that time— and I was like F you, that's not gonna save me right now. And for me, that was like— I was surprised that came out because at that time I left some dogma, but I hadn't left all of it. But that repulsed me in that moment.

So, all right, so let's— so we dive deeper.

Yes, yes, let's talk about sex. Let's talk about, you know, this can be triggering for people. Not— I know not you guys here, but others who are watching, who will watch this later. But you know what? Being triggered means there's a false belief somewhere you need to look at. So I'm not sorry. All right, here we go. Let me move this so we can start with our opening prayer. Mighty beloved I AM Presence within me and above me, I pour the love of my heart flame to you. I give love, praise, and gratitude unto you for thy own life, light, and love in all things visible— excuse me— visible and invisible, evolved and unevolved. Beloved Christ, the one presence in all, Divine Mother and Father presence of our universe, We greet you and thank you for the gift of life. Holy Spirit, we welcome your presence, your love, and your protection. Mighty beloved I AM, I enter this day in God, with God, by God, and for God. I will live this day in God, with God, by God, and for God. I will end this day in God, with God, by God, and for God. Every day I am gaining more illumination, health, wealth, strength, and love. Almighty Rose Christ I Am. A Sun's decree for world leaders: To all presidents, prime ministers, and leaders of nations and their cabinets and congresses, parliaments, and advisors, we say the light of Christ and the love of the Mother's presence compels you to do the right thing for your country and for the world. In the presence of the Christ, I bless the people of Ukraine, Russia, and all countries around the world. In the presence of the Christ, I bless every particle of life on this planet. All right, so the reference material for these slides: Christ Letters, Letter 7, Section 6, and Letter 4, Section 7. All creation is consciousness made visible. Every living thing only thinks and acts out of that level of spiritual or ego consciousness consciousness in which they reside. Before conception takes place, the sperm is imbued with the total consciousness of the male, the future father, and the ovum is imbued with the total consciousness of the female, the future mother. During intercourse, changes take place in the mental-emotional consciousness of the man and woman. They may sense a deepening of love, caring, and drive to express their longing for greater closeness and harmony of spirit. This is a true spiritual-physical union. Alternatively, as their desire for union with each other changes to an ever-stronger desire for self-satisfaction, this becomes an ego activity, reaping only ego reactions. However, whatever the condition of consciousness of the participants in the act of union, Their consciousness of desire to achieve the ultimate climax strives and drives the physical organs to move in a rhythm, producing psychic physical energy which gradually rises up into the brain, creating a higher and higher momentum of vibrational energy to reach a peak, peak of near delirium and delight, bursting into an explosion of momentary ecstasy and glorious fulfillment. And then follows release and a gradual descent into human consciousness again. That also describes what we talked about, I think, 2 weeks ago, about the creation of life, the Big Bang, how that energy, the male and female, the electromagnetism came in, and there was that climax. As above, so below. How the universe was created, it is what we here on Earth in these physical bodies with innies and outies call the sex act, intercourse. But it's all energy, so that's where that's going. At the very moment of delirium and delight, the human consciousness rises to touch the divine life force. Life force which ignites the sperm in the male and the ovum in the woman, conception may not take place, and both sperm and ovum return to normal physical consciousness. So as their energy rises and connects with that divine life force— to give you guys a visual, this is us in our human embodiment down here. This is our I Am Presence up here. And remember, there's only about 10% of us in these flesh bodies. The rest resides up here. This energy rises up, um, our spine. Our spinal column is a divine gateway, and it goes all the way up and it comes up out the crown, goes, meets our higher consciousness. This is that perfection, all-in-one part of us, that divine space comes up, connects, and then it starts to come back down into our physical bodies. When conception takes place, sperm penetrates the ovum and they are united in the highest vibrations of divine life. In spiritual and physical fusion. In united consciousness, they too ascend into their own moment of equilibrium and joy to become one, to become one both within divine life itself and human father-mother consciousness. This moment of consciousness union takes place within the very highest dimension of divine life consciousness and is a moment of unimaginable rejoicing and joy, for the two elements of male and female are again conjoined, united, and merged in equilibrium to become one to produce a child. This moment of union is reenactment of a person's return to the glorious and in infallible ecstasy of the divine consciousness of universal equilibrium. Creation. When intercourse is prompted by pure heartfelt love between man and woman, the united human consciousness ascends during intercourse into higher and higher levels of consciousness vibrational frequencies until they are caught up in the vibrational frequencies of divine intelligence love consciousness. Such a child conceived in such circumstances is born of spirit. Lovers know when they truly love and come to each other in pure tenderness and love because such intercourse is a moment of union of mind, emotions, and body, and lingers in their consciousness afterwards, making it difficult for them to draw apart from each other. They are aware of transcendent beauty, a renewal of emotional love instead of sight satiation, and an all-encompassing harmony. These men and women are joined by divine consciousness. Sadly, their personal ego consciousness can eventually taint the love they felt for each other and gradually, largely replace it. Leaving them separated and alone, sad and emotionally, physically weakened, wondering why such a beautiful, exalted state of love could ever dwindle and die. We've all been there, right? These letters can be the means of their overcoming the ego drive and rediscovering their previous love on an even higher and more spiritual level. In which case man and woman will become more whole than ever before. This may or may not bring them together in a new sexual attraction transcending all other, depending on their state of consciousness, whether it has itself transcended the desire for physical fusion. Physical union undertaken in any other emotion leads to a condition of flesh entering flesh and is but a receiving and giving of earthly, frequently negative vibrational frequencies, producing like-minded progeny of such a union. Even if a child is not conceived, such intercourse is detrimental to both partners since there is an exchange and absorption of each other's consciousness energy into the body. Which, if negative, hostile, or critical, can be damaging to one another. Remember that consciousness energy is compounded of Father Intelligence and Mother Love— electromagnetism. The energy exchange between sexual partners is of the same energy out of which the mental, electrical and emotional magnetic fields of the body are formed. All is consciousness. Therefore, when consciousness energies within body fluids and mental-emotional attitudes and thoughts are exchanged and absorbed, you are, each of you, affecting the mental-emotional physical condition of the other partner. Intercourse should, to be healthy and life-giving, only be undertaken in true heartfelt love, where the good of the loved one is more important than the good of the lover. It should never be used to heal emotional rifts or wounds. No doubt such intercourse will give them a temporary sense of well-being and transient goodwill, since their consciousness energies will have been lifted into higher vibrational frequencies. But this is a temporary alleviation of their personal consciousness only. In other words, that had nothing to do with divine consciousness. When partners go to each other still bearing hidden resentment or critical, denigrating thoughts about the other, those negative consciousness forms are transmitted into the electromagnetic fields of the partner and create a sense of inner disturbance of which the partner is not fully aware. Nevertheless, the relationship is being gradually eroded without either partner being fully aware that this is happening. This is the reason why the physical attraction between partners dwindles and dies. It is destroyed by hidden negative critical thoughts and feelings which little by little affect each other profoundly on every level of their being. As their frequencies of vibration drop, they will find themselves being drawn into the thoughts and feelings which previously drove them into arguments with other people, and consequently the problems will be repeated day after day. When people use sex as a panacea, it becomes a frustration and disillusionment sets in. Leading to a loss of respect and love for each other. This is why when I, um, talk with people about when they're in the ego drive, human consciousness, um, altered ego has them running out trying to feel better, having sex with multiple people, how that creates a bigger hole of what you're trying to get out of. Therefore, it is essential for people to realize that fights and quarrels arise out of their own hidden ego-consciousness drives, which gain control of their loving feelings. And the ego drives must be healed before couples can reach a new level of mutual understanding, consideration, and consistent love for each other. Not only this, but the condition of consciousness of each partner eventually affects their environment living conditions, and success or lack of it in their daily lives. It also affects the children, creating a family of mutual cooperation and healthy mental-emotional patterns, or the dysfunctional family where no member is in true sympathy or acceptance by the other. You may say that the successful or dysfunctional family conditions arise purely from their innate characters and the way they perform in their daily roles. It is perfectly true that the family life is a product of character and performance, but I want you to consider the dysfunctional family which breaks up the partnership and sexual cohabitation ends Parents move away from each other and move on to entirely new lives because they have managed to disentangle themselves from the unhealthy or critical consciousness they were absorbing during the sexual act. If strong enough to do so, each partner discovers a new self, builds a new environment, and goes on to success. However, those partners who live truly in love with each other, considering each other's needs together, giving and taking in equal balance, offering emotional support when needed, or loving counsel, not advice, when this is asked for, will find that the family is glued together by the absorption of each other's dynamic consciousness energies. In the light of the previous paragraphs, it may now be understood that prior to intercourse, there should never be a sense of grievance, buried hostility, contempt, or denigration. Any such feelings must be fully resolved before sex is resumed. In a relationship where discussion and freedom of speech is accepted as normal, each partner should resist the act of sexual love until a powerful inner force of responsive love has been built up and the consciousness of both partners is in a state of pure equilibrium. As for rape, this is the most heinous act against another and will draw to itself its own just rewards at some time in the future. It proceeds out of an especially warped and distorted ego consciousness. The frequencies of consciousness vibrations of such people, such people are so low and ponderous as to be personally destructive. So yes, Jesus did say rape is more heinous than murder. In the olden days, society was continually taught and sermonized. In Western countries, the Ten Commandments were rightly presented as being the true foundations of a civilized and humanized culture, teaching self-control and readily acceptable to all religions worldwide. Today, with the strengthening of the ego consciousness due to the influence of the entertainment industry and media, ego, ego lusts have control. You must also understand and accept that consciousness energies are energies as real and active as are the energies of heat and sound. Just as sound waves can penetrate certain substances, So do the consciousness energies of one person infect like a virus the consciousness energies of another mind with their own brutal tendencies. These energies may not be expressed in exactly the same way as the rapist, but rest, rest assured that transmitted consciousness energies do implant a new idea or a new feeling within an innocent person. Party. Your scientists are not prepared to believe in telepathy, but telepathy is a fact of life, although dull conscious activity may be so self-oriented as to not recognize that new impulses have originated in someone else's mind. I will say no more on this subject except to warn those in high places of church, law, and government who fail in their responsibilities towards people at this critical time. They will eventually perceive the enormity of their lack of moral performance whilst undertaking their earthly duties. They will feel the imprint of the lives of those who've been harmed and destroyed due to their moral negligence rebound upon their own lives. Every action has its like repercussions. Perhaps you will now realize why the present sexual trend in the world is causing the most dire, um, conditions worldwide. Christ is speaking specifically to the trend of casual sex because, as we just heard, casual sex is ego-driven. And it is basically draining life force. It has nothing to do with the physical bodies of who you have sex with. It has nothing to do if it's man or woman, man-man, woman-woman. None of that matters. None of that matters to Christ, God, any of that. That is all more human dogma of judgment. Okay, now that that's said, moving on. For you to fully understand what I'm talking about, I want you to strive to visualize and realize that the nature of divine consciousness of universal equilibrium is limitless power, since the equilibrium harmony arises out of equal constraint between the universal impulses of the male and female, intelligence and love, the will to experience and the will to remain acquiescent, the yearning to be active and the yearning to hold back and remain the status— and maintain the status quo in order to form bonds and stability. These primal impulses of being, as I explained in Letter 4, are the reality which has given life, form, shape, being to all visible things. We've already talked about the impulses, but I wanted to add it in here since he did refer to Letter 4. Christ gathers up the threads of his teachings in Palestine and says that he and Muhammad, Buddha, and all other masters have continued to develop spiritually until they have all ascended into Christ consciousness. Christ speaks of the truth of the sexual relationship, saying that the attitude between men and women will eventually change, spiritual progress will take place, and children with new spiritual potential will be born. The two basic impulses expressed as male and female Therefore, the two basic impulses within the source of being expressed in physical form as male and female are interdependent. One could not survive without the other. Both are needed for the continuity of creation. Because of his masculine mobility, his leadership drive, the male has considered himself superior to the female. This is because she remains stable, creating security for the male. But the feminine drive is the drive of unconditional love, the drive worthy of the highest respect and consideration to enable her to flourish and perform her innate purpose within the household in peace of mind and joy. The man's role is to provide physical security and material means of substance for the family. The woman's role is to provide emotional security and the emotional means of personal fulfillment and joy within the family environment. In the past, in the East and West, the male has exercised his role of dominance within the home, making the woman subservient and obedient to his will. In doing so, he has bent and distorted the energies of divine consciousness and channeled them through his mind and heart into a bent civilization. He has also distorted the woman's consciousness by instilling in her a deep resentment of her subservient role, which she knows intuitively she should not be expected to endure. Therefore, he has created a degraded and degrading way of life for himself and partner, entirely in conflict with the nature of his source of being. The fact that the female has had to exercise her masculine drive of aggression to express her equality of being, to achieve the respect due to her within society, means that your civilization has become thoroughly de-established and unhealthy. The woman is usurping the male role out of desperation, but in doing so, she is defeating the intention Behind, behind it. Male and female have lost their way completely. In underdeveloped countries, people are only half alive, trying to solve the division between male and female through casual sex. As a result, man and woman become ever more divided and unfulfilled. Conflict in the family unit creates stress, misery, and separation. Even though they may live under one roof. In developed countries, psychiatric offices are filled with unhappy people and children who say they do not know who they really are or what their purpose is in life. They are asking the experts who do not know the answers either. Okay, I have— I've already started on next week's slide, but because we had that other letter to go over. I am going to stop it here so we can have a discussion, and I'll pick it up again, um, next week. All right, Joan, what you got for me?

Oh my God, did that stir up so many things. I thought of— I thought of how many times— well, towards the end where it talks about how women have felt resentful of this. I have had that feeling since a little kid, especially when my brother was born almost 4 years after me, and suddenly he was, you know, I don't know, God incarnated on the earth. The golden child. Yes, yes. And, you know, carries the name forward and all that stuff. Although my parents, neither one really spoke of it truly that way. That's really what it came to be. And I thought how often I have resisted and not wanted to have intimacy, sexual or otherwise, with even someone who loves me like my current husband does. I will feel this sense of don't touch me, don't come near me, don't, don't enter me. And I thought this makes total sense because of the layers and layers of resentment that have built up because I feel like I've been told I'm less than, I'm not as important, whatever word that— perfect words that were used, of course.

Yeah, powerful.

Exactly.

And it's so detrimental. I mean, we're seeing it play out in life and in the world all around us. And, you know, when Jesus was here on earth, he, he came, he was so upset with the Jews and their dogma And he came to preach or teach— not preach, teach— this: the feminine is very divine. It needs to be respected. It, you know, the male is designed to, yes, be the provider. The male buys a house or gives the woman a house. She turns it into a home. He provides the, the raw ingredients for food. She unconditionally cooks it, gives it back, gives a meal. And yeah, this whole time—

oh, those rolls. By the way, would you go with your screen bigger? Uh, you're like a little tiny on the side.

Yeah, I love looking at— let me stop sharing.

Oh, okay.

There we go.

Can you see? There we go. Yes, I see your beautiful face. Okay, your beautiful being. Yeah, that really goes to, you know, um, the fact that women have had to take, have taken on so many roles that are masculine or male-dominated, and we've lost sight of, and I felt is like, you know, that whole thing about in the kitchen cooking and bringing back the meal. I'm like, I don't want that role. I hate that role. And I do think it's because we've been made to believe that's less than, that we're just subservient under the male's dominance. And we're supposed to do this—cook, clean, you know, kiss their feet kind of belief, you know. Um, and yet it's a beautiful, isn't it, that, you know, give and receive and give and receive. But it's been so tainted, hasn't it?

It absolutely has. And that was the plan. That's the thing. That was the overall plan by the Jews and the Roman Catholics. And I mean, back, back in my Christian pastor days, there were a lot of things that would heat me up. Um, and I didn't conform back then much either, but that whole thing of the woman needs to be silent and get the word from the man, um, that would light me up. And I did a sermon on, okay, the man has his role But the feminine is no way by any means lesser than the man. And the way I described it back then was, okay, he may be the provider or, you know, the head, but she's the neck, she's the throat, she guides him where to look. And without that, having that And as we now know, without the feminine energy, the uncon— the unconscious unconditional love gets buried. It does.

Yeah. And the thing is, is that that whole thing, men then not being able to be the provider, um, has been so skewed. What pressure, you know, especially where it's supposed to— you're supposed to make more and more money, you're supposed to bring more and more things, you're supposed to all these things, all this stuff that's been put upon them too. So I know it's not just females, I think, wow, have we really lost sight of what it's really meant to be? And, and I, my inside of me struggles with that hearth and home. I love that part, you know, making a beautiful home, all those things. And it just struggle with that because it's like, I don't want that to be demeaned and I'm supposed to be somehow your slave or your, you know, your housekeeper or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, that's very powerful.

Yeah, it is. And, you know, we have, we have a society of, I'm gonna say fractured, not broken, right? Masculine and feminine. Because again, our parents didn't know this, our grandparents didn't know this, so we were not taught the truth. So we were all raised, you know, the females, we got different messages than the men. And I too had noticed growing up, boys seem to get doted on and the girls, you know, in my, in my house, my, my stepbrother was the golden child, could do nothing wrong. I had to spend my Saturdays scrubbing the house, cleaning. Oh yes.

Oh my God. Yes.

He'd go out and do—

he'd help my dad mow or clean up a patch of grass the size of a postage stamp and he'd get to go play. And I'd be in the friggin house ironing which ironing back then, washing dishes, vacuuming, dusting, changing bedding, you name it. Yeah. And, and it'd be like, and my mother couldn't— I learned to sleep in on Saturdays as I grew and had in charge of my own life because I so resented being woke up early to do that all day. Yeah.

Yeah. And you know that those are those subtle projections that, yeah, we take on as our own, and they are in ourselves.

And so now, yeah, it's just looking forward to our course talking about, you know, because that'll dive into that stuff. Because as you said, you mentioned the word, you know, being triggered means, you know, touch something that a deep belief that, that really no longer serves us. I have several more questions that relate more to other things, but I know Jenny does too. I don't want to just take over.

Jenny, I'll give you the floor now. What you got for me.

Can you hear me okay? Yes. Okay, uh, the one really one question I have for this topic is, um, you know, he was talking about how a perfect, uh, spiritual, um, maybe I, I don't have the words right, but to, to when you create a child with that love, that Christ love for each other, how it's just perfect, uh, in creating the spirit of a, of a child, I guess. Um, I'm not sure if I'm putting it right, but what happens if a child is created with that missing, like just out of physical, or it's not, it's not that, that like it should be.

Yeah, what happens with that is there's more layers of dogma and matrix to remove. So there's— it doesn't mean that that child is in— is less than or any of that. It just means that on their awakening path there will be more layers to uncover. Um, so, and that's why he was saying, as we awaken and start to bring in the Christ consciousness and live from that point and change the ways we have sex, those children are not going to have those veils, those dogmas to have to deal with. Those children literally— and they are being born now start paying attention to the babies now. They are of that pure Christ consciousness. They are coming in. They're not going to have to go through what you, me, Joan, what our generation had to go through. They will be coming right in, and they are already coming in with this consciousness and the divine light to help us.

Plus, we aren't knowing this stuff, uh, we aren't going to be filling their heads with all of the Matrix thinking. Absolutely, absolutely.

They will now be able to grow the way the Divine plan was. And yes, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, we are in a spiritual time. We are in what Christians would call the end of days. We know they have it a little skewed, um, but what is transpiring is, as all of that ego drive, the human consciousness, is being exposed— and this is what we're going to go into next week, we're going to get into the sheep and the goats— because we are at that time. That, look, we— Jesus, I don't remember the exact word he used in the letters, but we are in those tough times now. That's why he is here now. He is etherically in our planet. What does that mean? That means that the— okay, let me say the fifth dimension When you think about the fifth dimension, you may think it like being outside of the Earth, somewhere out in the atmosphere. It's not. It's, it's in our atmosphere. It's just above the 3D. So, um, he is in, in his spirit here in our realm, but in the fifth dimension space. So he— it's still too hostile and too Matrix for him to physically appear in 3D. So he is working through the letters and through us to basically, you know, follow Christ's way and help bring people to this new Earth, because that is what's going to happen. But there is going to be you know, the, the separation of the goats and the sheep. Um, but as that tran— as that happens, like I said, the, the children coming in that are now, um, with that, for lack of a better word, pure consciousness, they're coming in to help us change this world. We're already seeing it. We could already start seeing it in our grandkids. And things like that.

And well, honestly, why would in physical form the, the, the Jesus or Christ want to come on? Well, it wouldn't help us because it would be the same thing as Jesus bumped up against centuries ago. So, you know, you know, we're all praying, quote unquote, praying for that to come. Yeah, we aren't even close to being ready. It's sort of like inviting guests to your home and it's in total disarray, and they're like, there isn't even a place to stand, let alone like, uh, you know, sit down and enjoy. Yeah, exactly.

And that's why, um, if you guys have followed any of the links that I share with like the Radiant Rose Academy and our Planetary— on Tuesdays we come together and decree for the planet and, and all of this, um, that they need us, you know, Mother Father God, Christ, all the Masters and Angels. They cannot do anything in this realm without those of us with a higher vibration holding the light, creating that space for them to come in. Because they have to lower their vibration so low because we are so dense. It's not that they don't want to help us. They— we, because of free will, we have to call out to them. And what has gotten in the way of that? Christian dogma.

Or other types of dogma, right?

And yeah, you know, obviously Yeah, well, I should say religious dogma, but I specifically called it or spoke to the Christian dogma because Jesus is very clear in his letters how erroneous their teachings are and how detrimental. And again, just the whole war thing. And again, back in my days, I used to sit there and go, God is love. War has nothing to do with peace and love, but the Christian religion is such a proponent of it. Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

So is Jesus saying he will eventually come to the 3D world or not ever?

It's not that he will never come to the 3D world. Um, it's just, it's still too dense and dark. I see. Okay. Um, there will come a time we will all see him. He will appear. He will make his presence known. Um, I would expect that to be— and this is just me expecting it, so take that with a grain of salt— um, I would expect sometime in the future after we go through the current cleansing. There we go. We'll go through the current cleansing because right now what we're watching playing out, it is the, the dark, the dark entities that are still holding on. So yes, he is in our etheric atmosphere. The more we enlighten, the more we shed our dogmas and beliefs, the closer he can come to us. And that's really what we want to strive for individually, is to clear our beliefs and our consciousness so one, we can work closer with the Christ. And not only that, I mean, that's twofold, because the Christ consciousness It's buried within us, so it will come up through us and it'll go up, hit, you know, touch the divine up there and bring more down. But it's not like something— I guess to give like a Hollywood image, you're not going to be sitting there praying one day and then all of a sudden Jesus just shows up with angels. Your prayer has been so amazing, I just love you. Let me answer everything. It's— that's not gonna happen, right? But yes, there will be a time in the future.

I have one more question. This is just a general question, but I'm so confused. What— when you— at the end of the prayer, I'm so conditioned saying in Jesus's name. Well, at the end of my prayer I've been hearing the Mighty Rose Christ I Am repeated. What does that exactly mean? Is the Rose Mary or Jesus? When you say the Mighty Rose Christ, Almighty Rose Christ I Am, I don't understand.

I, well, I say that because, um, and you could just even say Almighty Christ, or however you want to call it. But the rose— Mother Akasha is the Divine Rose. Her essence is the rose. There's so much in the rose. She also has a sister, the Goddess Rose. Um, being on this path, there are levels to it, and you guys know I am a student of the Radiant Rose Academy. And so the Rose, that's also a mantle that— trying to find the words— it's also a mantle that you carry, an energetic mantle. So the Rose Christ, when I say it, I'm acknowledging both the Mother, the Father, and the Christ consciousness. So like in Christianity, the trilogy— or the Trinity, not the trilogy, the Trinity. Okay, so the Rose. Now of course, Mary Magdalene, Mother Mary, all of them are also part of the Rose. It's an—

it's an energy. Okay, all of them then. Yeah. I, I've just been curious because I, I hear it at, on, uh, the Spirit, uh, the Radiant Rose Academy, and I couldn't figure it out.

Yeah, because all of us who are a part of the academy, uh, they even— Christ refers to us as the roses, the roses of Mother Akasha's divine dispensation, um Jesus refers to us as the rose as well. Okay, okay.

So, well, I think that's the part that, um, is so powerful when you say that. I thought that same thing, is that the rose and Christ— there's the male, I mean the masculine, the feminine. There's the mother and the father. They come together and have been left out. So when we only use Christ versus Christ consciousness, I believe what we are doing without realizing it sometimes is we're actually igniting the masculine, and we're only acknowledging as if he, he is, he is a human in the sky, you know, radiating down upon us our, our what we have just prayed for. Exactly, exactly.

So yeah, it is a, um It is. The rose is very sacred. Yeah. So it does represent the divine feminine. Yeah.

And that brings up the, uh, it's a clarification, uh, in, in the, um, in the original Christ Speaks, which you read in the very beginning, one of the things that was brought up is that, that we do meaningless prayers sent up to a mythical god. And you have spoken before the difference between, you know, prayer that we, we have done, this meaningless thing that we do to a mythical person. Um, could you go a little more into prayer and what the difference between what Christ consciousness is versus the prayer that we have always done? Like, we, like, we're helpless victims and Somebody's got to come and rescue us with a lifeboat because we're flooding. Yeah, exactly.

So the prayer, the way we were taught about prayer, um, and I'll, I'll— let me take it back. The way I was taught about prayer, how pray, um, just fall on your face, prostrate yourself before the Lord, cry, and just bring all your cares before him and let your, you know, cares be known.

Well, as if God doesn't already know them. Exactly.

You know, in the fuller picture, we are that. We— it's the I Am Presence. It already knows. So prayer is not supposed to be this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know, it's almost like going to a counselor and just Here, here's all my issues. Now what are you going to do about it? But that prayer doesn't satisfy us, and we walk away, and not even 10 minutes later, we're on the phone with somebody rehashing all the stuff we thought we just left in prayer. So literally, that's like a waste of time. Those prayers— I don't want to say they're wasted. A heartfelt cry out to God can get something moved. But the difference between how Jesus refers to prayer and talking about prayer— prayer is an attitude, and it's what we, um, entertain in our dialogue and in our thoughts. So, and prayer, traditionally, the way we're taught, like you were saying, Joan, we are going to someone outside of us saying, you know, judge me to see if I'm worthy, if my prayer will be answered. When the truth is, we don't need to bring all of our worries. God already knows. So our new prayer, or the better way is meditation. But how he speaks about meditation and prayer, the prayer would be the intention before the meditation. So that would look something like, Mighty Beloved I Am within and above, I'm coming to you now for you to speak to me. You know my needs, you know my issues. I'm coming before you to touch you, to have you speak into my life. That sets the intention. Whenever you go into meditation, you want to set that into an intention first, because that intention before meditation is like a searchlight. It's now going to search your being, your cells, and it's going to go out from you and look to bring what you intended to you. So that's why meditation— we want to try to quiet our minds as much as possible, um, so that because we're going not to get anything, not to get tangible stuff, we are going to spend time with that Christ consciousness and to just let it overflood— overflood, that's not even a word— let us flood I can't talk— flood us with the consciousness.

Yeah, that makes sense. And I think that, um, where the human consciousness has skewed that too is, you know, just quiet the mind and, you know, and all the miracles will happen. And I— it's very goal-driven versus intention and giving it to me, like offering it over, saying, I offer this up because I don't know what this is about, don't even know where to go with this. I really feel, uh, whatever you believe the consciousness believes is the right action for me, you know. And then going in with that versus, oh, I want that new Mercedes or whatever. Exactly, exactly.

And you know, um, our consciousness, our I Am presence, no, it already knows everything that we need. It's waiting for us to get on board.

To give it permission, right?

Yeah, to give it permission and to allow it. And, um, when I was first learning this, one of the things I kind of had an issue with at first, which goes back to the dogma and what I was taught, was, um, there are decrees and things that we've been taught that we're told to go boldly before the presence and command and demand. Yeah, that took me a little while. I was like, command, command, command and demand, especially with the angels. And so that was a little— took me a little time to kind of settle in with that. But the fuller truth of that is, we do need to come boldly because altered ego human consciousness has had struck such a stronghold. And when we go and command and demand, whether it's from our I Am Presence, from a master, or an angel, we are literally standing in our power and saying, I know who I am, I know who I'm calling on, and it is my right to speak this out. So I am commanding and demanding action to take place. That command and demand comes from a place of Love and Power. And boy, has it made a difference.

I was, I was trying to do those, uh, uh, decrees, and I heard that, and I'm like, wow, that sounds a little, uh, a little too bold. I don't know if I can do that.

Yeah, that's what I went through at first too, and that's literally our dogma acting up, that, oh no, don't do that. Oh God, no. Hey, I want you stuck over here. Um, so go easy with yourself, um, in that. Like I said, I had the same thing at first, but now once I allowed myself to do that, and I had to push through it, I saw, I saw a big change. I really did.

So, um, but yeah, that's just something, just because you're not, you're not commanding, demanding, I have to have that Mercedes in the driveway, you know. You're not looking at, um, I don't know what the word I want to use, uh, well, shallow, you know. Yeah, not really. You mentioned it comes from love and power, really is not meant to be, you know, I'm gonna tell you what to do with my finger shaking. Yeah, exactly.

And that's what altered ego wants us to think we're but we're not. We are literally standing up and saying, little self, altered ego, sit down and shut up. I am not talking to you. I am calling to my I Am Presence. Because guys, whether you're calling to your I Am Presence, Christ, Akasha, a son, Germaine, an angel, we are all one. We are all created with the same impulses. So in doing so, we are coming from actually a reverence point and honoring our I Am Presence, or whatever being we are commanding, demanding at that time. We're literally cutting through that dogma and saying, look, I'm here, we don't have time for chit-chat, this is what needs to be done, and I am speaking to that presence, commanding and demanding in love, that I know where this source is and only you can act.

Yeah, so we're not commanding and demanding the angels, we're commanding and demanding that— what, what did you say before? First it was like We're— we—

what we're doing is we are essentially shutting down the human ego. We're not coming in a human ego wanting human needs fulfilled. We are honoring the I Am Presence, or you— if you can even just say Mother Father Consciousness, and literally saying, look, I know who I am. I'm coming to you from that space. Now, with the angels, what we've been taught about the angels is off as well. The angels have to hear us verbally. They do not communicate with us telepathically. We can telepathically speak to masters, but with angels it has to be audible. The angels And we are supposed to be working with our angels. We have a guardian angel, um, and I'll do a thing on angels at some point as well because they come into our atmosphere to help clean it up at 8 AM in the morning and 8 PM at night. So they're here every day. Uh, each one of us has a guardian angel. That we are supposed to be acknowledging every day and talking to, asking them to do things. Angels want to be busy, and as we pour our praise and love to the Christ, our I Am Presence, Akasha, Son, whoever, the angels take that up as well. And on our behalf, and it amplifies. But the angels really— they— think of your guardian angel. If you're not talking to it on a daily basis and telling it to do things, it's unemployed. It's sitting there bored out of its mind. It's bored. It's running away. It's just watching you going, uh, I could help, I could help. I'm more than a parking spot angel.

So do we say, I command and demand the angels? I mean, I, I'm—

when you get— when you're— when it's not such a rub for you. So that's what I'm saying, ease yourself into it. Um, I pushed through it even though it kind of rubbed me, but that's just my personality. I knew I had to break through that rub. Yeah, um, so honor where you're at. So you can start—

couldn't, couldn't you start with just, hey, angel, I know you're there. Yes, dear sweet guardian angel, I'm sorry I've been ignoring you, and you know, I need your help in this area. I'm really lost. Yeah, I mean, it could even be, dear guardian angel, I don't get this command and demand shit. Could you like come along and help me with that? I mean, is it like that? Absolutely, absolutely.

For your speaking with the guardian angel or an angel, talk to it like you're talking to me, a friend. Just have a regular conversation, guys. We don't need— there's no— we don't need to be pious or holier than thou. Oh, blessed beautiful angel of God, your beautiful wings. No. I mean, I'll wake up and be like, good morning, my guardian angel. I love you, you know, help me today with this, help me clear with a clear mind.

Um, what's on the agenda today?

Yeah, what's on the agenda? You know, hey, I gotta go out of the house today, go before me, make my path straight, let me know what I need to know. And I use my angel all the time for parking.

As I'm going somewhere, my husband doesn't believe that. He's, you know, I'm like, turn down the next aisle, honey. And he'd be like, he'll purposely not do that, right? Yeah. And I'm like, okay, honey, you're just not getting it, you know? Yeah. I'm not— it's— they've always called it manifesting parking, which I think puts it in that human construct area. And what really is going on is energetically moving it, moving things to open up space, is it not?

You're qualifying the energy. Yeah.

Oh, I get it. That makes sense.

Qualifying the energy. What, guys? I mean, we are becoming more enlightened, so that means we are filling with more love, coming from a place of more essential harmlessness. That's creating the space for the angels to come to us and work on our behalf. That helps.

That helps a lot. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. And I know we're, I know we're over time. So I did. There were a couple of questions I had around, you know, when we have a sexual relationship with someone, and it's done. Here's what it is. It's really speaking to how we have just driven ourselves like, you know, well, if you're in a relationship with someone and you're married or living together, you're supposed to have sex so many times per week, or there's something wrong between you. I don't disagree that there might be something going on energetically that's off. However, this forced sex, or I have to be sexually active, or, you know, I'm driven by it— is that not part of what, uh, Christ Speaks was speaking to, or the Christ Letters were speaking to?

Yes, absolutely it is. And He made it so clear that our attitude and our consciousness are key.

And so, um, you know, well, honest to God, I'm thinking that I'll never have sex again if I have to clear all that.

I, I can relate. I can understand. Um, we, we ended up working through this because I went through that as well. Um, You know, and in my last marriage— me too, my last marriage, you know, I had no sexual drive really. And, um, he may not know that I know, but I know. More importantly, God knows. Um, when I would take my medication at night, I would be knocked out, he'd rape me. So, and I, and I energetically felt it. He would deny it. But that would mess up in my consciousness. Um, as you become aware of this and you— here's a good thing, and I'll teach on this in the womb clearing and stuff. Okay. But for our past sexual encounters, all that energy, to clear that energy, yes, you can call on Archangel Michael to cut those cords, but you can just go to your own I Am presence and just say, you know what, I didn't know what I know now. I call back all my energy from all of those relationships. I cut all energetic cords. I say cancel and delete. And I said nothing but love and peace to everybody I've ever encountered. And then you can, you know, again, turn it into Christ or meditation and say clear me of this. Um, if you guys have been following the Radiant Rose or any of that with the Violet Flame, or know about the Violet Flame, you can do the Violet Flame mantras, get in that Violet Flame 10 to 15 minutes a day. It will get into you and start clearing and purifying all that out of you. Okay, because I honestly didn't— I thought that would be an issue for the rest of my life. I am happily here to report, in working through all of this, um, my sex life is so different now, and it is like what the Christ explains. Um, and it's just— it is so different, and it's not about how many times or any of that. It's about the quality and the state of consciousness at that time. So now we specifically practice that, practice it around the consciousness and coming together to create not children, but energetically create and bond.

Oh yeah, very different. Yeah, very different approach. Thank you.

It is so, so, so different. And just the magnitude and the energy of all of it, it is mind-blowing.

Yeah, because I know that— I, I know— I've, I mean, I've come clear on this, not a mental knowing. Now it's a mental knowing, but it came from guidance through all my inner work, is that my breast cancer definitely showed up because of all that trapped female, feminine stuff. I would not— I couldn't express, or weren't— it was— I was in very masculine fields, by the way, too. So, you know, I would push the masculine side. Yeah, it's so clear. So yeah, the, um, the immersion program is going to be very much, um, embracing for me too, to help clear much of that. As you said, clear, clear me of this.

Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go in like surgery. And that's why I was preparing you guys to let you know we are going deep right away. Altered ego, make no mistake about it, is not happy. Your human consciousness does not want you to know this information. So just hang, hang on, hang on, hang on. We get through it, we clear it. Um, I don't know if you guys have this book yet or not, But this, the, um, Magdalene Manuscript— no, this is a great book about the truth of the sexual energy, the sex magic of Isis and the alchemies of Horus. And I know that will just trigger, especially if there's still the religious dogma in there— oh my God, Isis, ah, Horus, sex magic, blah blah blah. It's all energy and it's divine, and it's Mary Magdalene teaching us and explaining what she did for Christ before he was crucified. They came together in the sex magic energy that we just went through in Christ Letters.

All right, I've got a question on that, Denae. I was listening to one of the messages from Christ from the— at the Radiant Rose, and in that message he says that we have to, uh, he was laying down the, I guess, rules or beliefs we have to have, and one of the things he said was that I was immaculately conceived. And I'm like, what? I'm totally confused on this. Oh wait, no, it was— he made the— I'm sorry, he made the comment— I got it screwed up— that, um, he was celibate, uh, and Muhammad was not, but they were both— and I'm like, wait a minute, if he was celibate, how can all this happen with Mary Magdalene? So I was totally confused.

I'll need to know what which one he was talking about? Because I think there's something lost in translation.

Yeah, celibate could just be a word that we've misdefined. Yeah, it's sort of like, you know, um, when you get this, you're going to have a new birth in your life, and I'm like, okay, I'm 69 years old, I don't think so. Because you define the word birth as if, as if you're going to get pregnant and give birth to a human child. It could be something else. Maybe that's what the word celibate was used as, a different term.

Which one do you remember? Which which one you heard.

No, but I'll figure it out. I'll go back and, and listen. It was— I think it was toward— I don't know if it was toward the end. He just— he made it sound like he— I— we're here for the same reasons, or we both— we both respected women highly. I chose celibacy, but he, you know, and he didn't. But we, you know, both— and then he went on. But it— I wrote a question to ask you later up in my list of questions about it. I'm confused on this. I'll see if I can find it.

Yeah, because, um, in each of the discourses and when they speak, there's a certain context that they're referring to. So, um, but Jesus loved women. He wasn't celibate. So that's why I'm saying there's, there's got to be something else there, um, that got lost in translation. So yeah, if you can let— even just point, let me know which one it is. All right. Um, because Jesus definitely was not celibate.

So it wasn't in the— it wasn't in the Christ Letters. It was actually in the Rose Academy stuff.

Uh, sure it was. I, I was going through looking for messages from Christ at the Radiant Rose Academy and, and clicked on that one, and, and it was about other stuff. But when he said that, uh, that confused me. And at some point he said believed in— we should believe in his Immaculate conception. And then that confused me, you know. I'm like, no, wait a minute, I thought he wasn't immaculately conceived.

Now again, you gotta also keep in mind, and this is where context comes in, depending on what he was specifically discoursing on, because not everybody is ready to hear how he was conceived. Okay. And there has to be some clearing of the dogma before we can accept that, because it's going to go completely against the finite human mind. All right, that's what you're butting up against, um, and altered ego will hold that over your head so you won't be able to receive the truths.

Okay, yeah, those little things really hang me up for some reason.

That's altered ego trying to stop you, because once you get it, it's— you're gonna open up completely.

So it goes to what you were saying, that when you're triggered, because that's being triggered, yeah, and we may not throw us off into anger or resentment or whatever, means that you're holding a false belief. It's pushing up against, like you said, altered ego. Is that correct with the— yes.

And in— yeah, and it's also our human mind getting in to make it fit, because what everything Christ comes to talk about is absolutely in the face of religion and all of that. Um, but there is, there is a discourse that they spoke about how Jesus was immaculately conceived. Yes, no, or yes. Come in. I know. Are you guys ready? Time to go. Time to go. Um, it wasn't— it wasn't— it wasn't the way we have children. But remember, everything's energy. Keep that in mind. It's energy. Okay, so we will get to that point and that we can ex— that I can explain it better.

Um, we're just taking stepping stones right now. Yes, exactly.

Yeah.

Okay. All right, we're not ready to jump in the pond, we're just stepping on the next little stepping stone. Thank you.

Yes. And, and just keep in mind, and I know you guys are— you guys very much know finite mind and the consciousness that's just wants to keep you from this information and trip you up over it.

Yes, and it does get to me sometimes. Yeah.

Yes. Thank you. All right, all right, you guys, love you, and I'll talk with you later. Bye-bye.