In this YouTube interview, Dennis Prager talks with documentary filmmaker Ami Horowitz about Horowitz’s on‑the‑ground reporting in downtown Minneapolis during the post‑George Floyd protests. Horowitz describes interviewing dozens of protesters, noting that while most do not personally riot, many excuse rioters and even use the term “genocide” to describe the treatment of Black Americans. When asked whether armed resistance or civil war is justified, several interviewees affirm that stance. Horowitz also claims that the number of Black people killed by police in 2020 was 18, and that the vast majority of those incidents were either justified or mistakes, suggesting only one truly unjustified killing. Both speakers criticize mainstream media, labeling coverage as fabricated “New York Times riots” and linking the narrative to the 1619 Project. The conversation frames the protesters’ rhetoric as dangerous, the media as dishonest, and positions Horowitz’s footage as exposing the truth behind the protests.
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Alright, so back to Ami. Ami is— the reason I said "have gun will travel" is "have trouble will travel." That's Ami's motto, and that's why he's in downtown Minneapolis. Talking about your being in downtown Minneapolis, you're obviously at a hotel. Is anybody else in that hotel?
Yeah, it's all press. All the hotels are just full of press.
Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, you ever banter with these wonderful people, the professional lying class?
All the time. And I always ask the same question, which is, do you ever ask the, like, the real questions? Like, all the questions are about how are you feeling now, you know, what's your opinion on what's happening with— I mean, it's, it's— they never— like, I've shot a video that just released today, right? And, uh, I went to the George Floyd Memorial where the protesters are, and I asked the real questions. I brought out what they really feel. This is— I, this is— I cannot, I cannot stress this more, okay? The, the, the, the fact that the media wants to separate the rioters and the protesters is what I find so mind-boggling. Not that most of the protesters are rioting, Most of them are not. But when I spoke with the protesters, first of all, a lot of them plan on rioting, right? But there wasn't a single protester, and I'm talking, I probably spoke with 50 people on and off camera in Minneapolis. I've spoken to hundreds of them across the country last year. And when I asked them, do you condemn the rioting? Do you justify the rioting? They never say that. No, we condemn it, or no, we don't justify it. They will always make an excuse for the rioters. And it's that— that's what gives the rioters and the looters and the arsonists the air to breathe and to work, because they know that these tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, actually millions of protesters out there have their back, right? And the Democratic leadership have their back. And this is the problem. Is that, yeah, of course they're not all rioters, you know, 1%. I have no idea the numbers, whatever small percentages, but they are able to do what they do because they have the support of these protesters. And, and, and what me— I'm so angry at what I heard, but even more profoundly sad when I asked— what I asked him a whole number of questions, and one of them was, is, do you think there's a genocide going on? And they kept using the word genocide. Yes, genocide. After I said, you know, the word genocide is the eradication of an entire people. And they looked at me, they go, that's exactly what's happening. That's exactly what's happening. They're trying to get rid of every Black person in this country. They believe it. These aren't the rioters. These are the protesters I'm talking to, mind you. Okay. And then when you take it to the next level and say, well, if you think genocide is happening, do we need to engage in a civil war? And I don't mean the civil war like you keep talking about, right? Intellectual one. I mean, an armed one? And they were saying, yes, we do. People were talking about guns and killing people. This is what they're telling me on camera. Now, this is, this is bad. This is really, really bad.
Dennis, I watched your video. It is up at DennisPrager.com. I want my listeners to see it and send it around. You asked these questions that you just mentioned. And for example, how many blacks are killed each year by the police?
Thousands.
Unarmed blacks. Thousands. What is the actual number that we have? I'm sorry?
In 2020, the number is 18. And by the way, of the 18, I looked into every single one of them, and the vast majority of the 18 were either a justified shooting because the person was attacking the police officer. He may have been unarmed, but he was grabbing for his gun, he's grabbing for— he's choking the, the, uh, the police officer out, or was an absolute mistake, right? Somebody who, you know, who had a cell phone in his hand or, or something else in their hand which wasn't a weapon, but the police officer thought it might have been in the dark. So the vast majority— so that 18 isn't even the right number because the vast majority of them were mistakes or actually justified. So the numbers of actual unarmed killings, I can only find really one, actually one that was Just inexcusable, right?
Uh, maybe this is all manufactured by the left-wing media of the United States, the mainstream media. This— they should be called the New York Times riots, the New York Times deaths. They actually are.
They actually— because the, the, uh, you know, the, um, uh, God, sorry, the, the thing that they team the, uh, 17 10 Project, whatever that project is. I don't remember its name. 1619 Project. She called it the 1619 riots. No, they literally are the New York Times riot.
That's right.
Literally.
And they're proud of it. That's right. This is what we're having. It's all based on lies. The hatred of America on the left and on the black left is all based on lies. I've said this my whole life: lies are the root of evil. We'll be back.
