Dennis Prager Interviews The Hodge Twins

Keith and Kevin Hodge discuss personal responsibility, identity politics, and political divisions with Dennis Prager. They recount being rejected from 15 job interviews before improving their approach, and argue that victim mentality harms Black communities more than external forces do.
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or a YouTube channel at 1.5 million subscribers. That's a lot of subscribers. And it's Keith and Kevin, the brothers or twins. So yes, I have a lot of questions still. I want to get back to the victim thing. Yeah, one of you were saying, and it's so critical, it is a lot easier to believe you're a victim than to look in the mirror.
Yeah, it's easier to blame somebody else for your inadequacies than to look in the mirror and fix the situation yourself. Because whenever you fail at something, Dennis, it's, it's, uh, it's not failure. It's an opportunity for you to learn from that. That's how all successful people are. They fail and they learn from their failures, right? I think a lot of people on the left, once they make a horrible decision, they feel it's something— they blame somebody else. Yeah, one of the biggest detriments to the Black community is identity politics. I mean, me being in, uh, us being in the military, us being, um, working in Fortune 500 companies all life, from every Black person I ever known, man, they always had this thing with, with other people being racist when they don't even know that person personally. Like, like, for example, when I, um, I went to school and I got a degree in accounting, and once I got that degree, Dennis, I went to like I want to say like 15 interviews. No one ever called me back. I fell in that whole victimization, oh, it's got to be because I'm Black. It's got to be. So you know what I did, Dennis? I said, you know what? What I'm going to do going forward when I get another interview, I took all those questions that they was asking me during the interviews. I'm going to go ahead and perfect my answer for every question they ask me. And my next interview, I'm going to knock their socks off. I'm going to smile. I'm gonna do, you know, improve my interviewing skills. So the very next job interview, I prepped myself for like a week. And every interview I went to, asked me the same question, but I didn't have a good solid answer for them. So my next interview, I answered every question. I was very articulate. I gave them great answers and I got the job.
Even got more money. After 15 rejections.
After 15 rejections, I could have very easily—
by the way, did you wear a suit and tie to the last one?
I wore a suit and tie to all of them.
Okay, just checking, because you guys do not wear a suit and tie on your podcast.
Right, right, right. We're pretty laid back on that part.
Yeah, I was gonna say, right, if you showed up in one of those t-shirts, that might have been one of the reasons. But all right, now it's clear to me. Okay, that's fair. So, right, so the, the great challenge is to get that message to more Blacks. You're hurting your lives by buying this victim mentality.
Yeah, but you know, Hollywood and our culture, our musicians, our celebrities, our civil rights, man, they got their hooks so deep in the Black people, you can't even, uh, You can't even talk to them. They're so mentally enslaved, they don't even know they got shackles on them. I try to teach, I try to talk to Black folks. No, I'm not going to dance with a white man. I'm not. You sound like a white person. I'm saying, no, man, I'm just being clear. You got— you can't— everything's just not about being Black and African. We all are just people with the same life, the same wants, the same dreams in America. Drop all that. Pro-Black, pro-Africa. I said, man, you're just an American, nothing more than that. You're American just like everybody else.
That's right. That's the dream. And that's what I believe. It's exactly right. I am in the— let's see, I'm in the second toughest group to crack. I'm a Jewish conservative. So whereas you got 90% of the vote Democrat, I only have 70%. Jews vote 70%. Yeah, so I start off with a little advantage when I speak to Jews. But the truth is, the left-wing Jew will turn me off, just as the left-wing Black will turn you off.
Yeah, right. It's sad, really. I mean, our form of government in America is more of a Republican form of government because No democracy can ever survive, like, because of, you know, this mob mentality.
That's right.
You see it on the left. You see what these riots— that's total— that's a pure democracy right there. It's just mob mentality. Everything's based on the whim. There's no logic. It's all emotion. Yeah. Just imagine, Dennis, if we didn't have the Electoral College, we would never have a Republican president. That's right. Never.
That's right. Because of And nobody would campaign in Wisconsin or Michigan or Ohio. It would be irrelevant. They'd just get Los Angeles and New York and go home.
Yeah, yeah.
And Philadelphia, I guess. By the way, you guys are living in Vegas. Vegas is hurting, isn't it?
Yes, the highest unemployment in the country. Yeah, because the majority of the economy out here is tourism. Hotels.
Exactly.
Buffets.
And people are still not coming?
Uh, that's starting to— it's starting to open up a little bit. I mean, uh, the governor out here, Sisolak, he just opened up the casinos about a week ago. I think the churches are still closed out here. I mean, what's really weird to me about this whole pandemic is the left always preaches about follow the science. The science is pretty clear now. If you're under 50 and you're in good health, this virus has very little effect on you.
That's right, my man. Listen, I gotta say goodbye, but I'd love to do this again. You're treasures in American life. I just want you to know that.
Thank you, Dennis. Thank you.
You're very welcome. The Hodge twins, and there's a link to them. You go straight to them, or there's a link. They're very funny and obviously very insightful.
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