In this interview, former Senator Jim DeMint and commentator Dennis Prager converse about the responsibility of Christians to engage in politics, arguing that abstaining from public life contributes to America’s decline. They describe a climate of increasing intimidation and call for believers to stand up for truth. DeMint praises Prager’s influence during the COVID pandemic and shares his personal history with Prager’s media. Prager promotes his theological novel, Satan’s Dare, and emphasizes that faith underpins the nation’s moral order. He uses the Genesis narrative to illustrate that God creates order from chaos, contrasting this with what he characterizes as left‑wing attempts to create chaos, especially regarding gender, which he asserts is biologically binary. The dialogue frames cultural battles as a struggle between divine order and leftist disruption, urging active, faith‑driven participation in public affairs.
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them. So there's a dynamic going on there that I think we have to realize, and that America— we have to look at it as we are stewards of America. And those who say, "I'm not going to get involved with politics because it's too dirty," don't realize that it's our job because it was given to us.
The people who say that are as guilty for America's decline as the left is. There is no distinction between the left and the people who won't fight them.
You're right. I mean, it's become a cliché, but freedom and our way of life is not free. We all, every generation has to stand up.
That's right. That's exactly right.
And there's probably been no more ever a time when there's more intimidation.
That's right.
Standing up.
That's right.
But that's why we need folks like you. And I know you embolden thousands, if not millions, just by telling the truth. And it's been one good thing about COVID Dennis, is I've been home and I could listen to you on the radio.
I didn't— I never thought of that as a bonus of COVID but I'll take it. I'll take it.
I spent my early life in sales with all your cassettes in my car.
Oh, I'm very touched.
It's fun to get back on your show and talk about, well, faith and— but It's not abstract because really, as you and I have talked about, you talk about all the time, the country depends on people of faith standing up and defending real truth.
Yes, otherwise what is your faith? The book, my friends, is Satan's Dare. It's a novel, but it's a theological work, and he's a serious thinker, Jim DeMint. Satan's Dare is up at DennisPrager.com. Jim, I wish you only success with the book.
Well, thank you, Dennis. Thanks for what you do every day. Look forward to getting back on your show sometime.
That's a deal. You got it. Thank you, sir. Yes, he understands the, the issue in the United States. Let me give you so many examples. I'll give you one. Here's one you, you that you would find in my, uh, commentary in Genesis, the Rational Bible Genesis. What does God do for 6 days? And I forget whether it's 6 days literally or not. I find that question to be inconsequential. And what does God do for that period of time? Whether it's 6 billion years or it's 6 days, I don't care. What does God do? Mostly, makes order out of chaos. And what the left is doing is undoing that order and making chaos. That, uh, human sexuality is not binary is a perfect example of a statement of chaos from the left. We're not born male or female. Okay. So for those of you who want to know where does the left and the Bible differ, well, in every conceivable arena of life. But here's a perfect example. God created Adam, male and female he created them. That's what matters. That's the only distinction that matters, male and female. And the left is undoing that. It's not binary. Really? Is it binary in all other animals in the world? Of course it is. Are kangaroos not born male and female?
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Or birds? They're all male or female except humans. But I thought we were just another animal.
