Is It Wrong for Men to Look at Women? | Male/Female Hour
In this episode of the Dennis Prager Show’s "Male/Female Hour," host Dennis Prager leads a call‑in discussion about whether it is wrong for men to look at women in a sexual or appreciative way. Prager frames the topic as a natural, often beneficial part of male‑female interaction, while acknowledging that staring, leering, or unwanted attention can be invasive. A variety of callers share personal experiences and viewpoints: - Larry cites women‑only gyms (Curves) as evidence that many women dislike being watched while exercising. - Chrissy (age 50, married 28 years) says she enjoys a lingering look, interpreting it as validation. - Bridget (early 50s, ill with scoliosis) laments the loss of attention after illness and sees looks as a loss. - Louisa describes prolonged staring as an invasion regardless of gender. - Rachel presents research on “the garbage man” – men who stare or make lewd comments that ruin first dates. Prager repeatedly distinguishes between a respectful glance and an over‑the‑top stare, argues that most healthy women appreciate being noticed, and urges men to avoid “idiotic” behavior such as overt leering. He also promotes his forthcoming book, Your Man Is Not a Pervert, which will expand on the hour’s themes. The episode intersperses promotional spots (Life Audio newsletter, Salem Now documentaries, etc.) and brief tangents about prophecy and historical figures, but the core of the content is the exploration of social norms, gender expectations, and etiquette surrounding male visual attention toward women.
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I was calling because I tend to disagree with the first couple women that called and said that they enjoy being looked at regardless of what age they were, because I think it's a small percentage. Because there's a, there's a club, and I don't know if it's nationally franchised or not, it's called Curves for women, and it's an exercise club from what I understand, and from what I've read about it is it's for women only. They don't allow men in these clubs, and it's because I've read that the women do not want to be looked at in that way while they're working out.
Right, yes, that's a very interesting point you raise, Larry, and it's a good one. There are 2 factors, as I understand it, with something like that, and they're quite Ironically, their opposite.
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I'm old-fashioned. I like 2 sexes. Yeah, and another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a new woman. I want a wife, not a competitor.
Competitor.
Competitor.
Talk about a bit this crying in the morning thing, this depression, you know.
Let's get that fixed.
That's what men think, isn't it?
What?
That unless you've got the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this bloke in the Essex Road who could fix that, then there's no point bothering. How do you write women so well? I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability. I love him. I love him and I don't care what you think. I love him for the, for the man he wants to be and I love him for the man that he almost is.
What do people have rows about today?
Uh, money, sex. Sex, money, he wants, she doesn't want.
She wants, he doesn't want. Women have always been a big problem to me, Dr. Fussbender. Are you listening, Doctor?
Yes, yes, yes, go on, go on.
Never fails to bring a smile to me, to my face. Yes, yes, go on, go on. Hi, my friends, the Male-Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show, a truly honest Look at the 2 sexes and their relations. The hour has been so much more successful than I had even imagined, and I thought it would be. I would never have made a dedicated hour to this subject if I didn't think it would be. But the reactions have been such that my next book will in fact be on this subject. It's titled— it's tentatively titled Your Man Is Not a Pervert. An exploration or an explanation of male sexual nature. And I— this hour, this hour's subject may not be fully fitting for little kids. A lot of you have little kids listen to my show, and I like that, and I think it's good for them. But, but under, under 10. You might not want. I don't think it's going to be particularly traumatic for them, but I just do want to warn you in advance. This is an adult hour. And it's on the subject of men looking at women that way. We all know what that way is. And I remember a call that I received on one of these hours. from a woman who was very nervous around men because she didn't like the way they would look at her. When they would look at her that way, it made her nervous and she— or even perhaps resentful. I want to talk to you about this issue, and I specifically and most want you to talk to me about it. You women and you men, both sexes, to talk about this. And I'm not talking now about the husband-wife relationship specifically. Talking— that's why I call it the Male-Female Hour. It's about the larger issues as well. We have talked about the issue of the man seeing his wife as a sex object, and I am all for it. I defended it on every ground. From holiness to eroticism. It is a good thing. Imagine, well, as I always say, imagine if he didn't. What would you prefer? That he saw you as a roommate who happened to be female? I mean, every year that your husband sees you in that way is a blessing to both of you.
Okay?
And no man only sees his wife that way. All right? So, so. Drop that nonsense from what you learned in college. In fact, drop most of the nonsense you learned in college and you'll mature much faster. But that's in the realm of the marriage. What about outside the marriage, just in day-to-day social interaction, strangers on an airplane, at a restaurant, on the street, at a social gathering, at a dinner party? When men look at you, quote unquote, that way? Should you be uncomfortable? Is it a bad thing? Well, let's be, let's be clear. Of course it can be a bad thing. But if a man stares continually at a woman, it's, it's awful. But for that matter, if a man stares at a man continually, it's awful. If a woman stares at a man, staring makes people uncomfortable. That's obvious. I mean, that's just human. We don't— you would notice it. It's an eerie thing. If I'm sitting waiting for the plane at gate 72A and there is somebody just looking at me for minutes at a time, it's very discomforting to anybody. It has nothing to do with sex, nothing to do with gender. But putting that aside, and obviously anything can be overdone, putting that aside, yes, it's not bad if a man looks at you that way. And I have one very important statement to make to women: would you prefer it the other way? Ask women who have gotten older what it is like to— and it doesn't always happen, but what happens When they aren't looked at that way anymore, you think they celebrate it? Wow, what a relief. What a relief. I'm not noticed. That's not what you want. You know, what is that famous phrase? Beware what you ask for, you may receive it. Beware asking not to be looked at that way, you may receive it, and maybe you won't be all that happy. Are there limitations? Of course. I mean, a man— look, it's sort of a game between men and women. Let's be honest. She wants to be— most women want to be noticed and most men want to notice. So it's a game that they play not to be caught, right? He is looking at her, and I'm talking about the woman at the dinner party or on the plane or whatever. But he doesn't want to be noticed looking, but she wants to be looked at. I particularly find it a bit odd if a woman is revealing a lot of skin and then is resentful of being looked at that way. You know, I must say, I used to say when the subject came up, if a woman ever said to me or to any man who was looking at her, and let's say she had a very low-cut top on, And, uh, said, you know, what, what are you staring at? Or what are you looking at? And the answer would be what you're showing. That's the answer. I mean, I would love to know how the woman would then react. You show, but we can't look. That's quite a deal. You know, uh, I— you might not want to say, you know, listen, I happen to be a chador salesman, and, uh, you might want to consider this. I promise fewer people will be looking at you. Which is why chadoras are worn. And I don't advocate them, to say the least. Women, what is your take on being looked at that way in a dinner party or in public or what have you? What are the limitations? And do you, if you get nervous as that woman who called me, why? 1-800-PRAGER-776 is the number, which is 877-243-7776. 877-243-7776. One more thing on this as the calls come in. I tell a story when I speak about male-female relations. This goes back to my bachelor days in my 20s. I played racquetball regularly with a wonderful guy my age. In our late 20s. He got married in his late 20s. And I remember going to dinner with him and his new wife. I would say they were married about 4 months. And she asked how the racquetball is going. And I said, oh, we have a great time. And I don't know how it came out, but I said, between games, we take a Quick break. We wipe off, sit outside, and basically look at the women who walk by in various states of unclothery. And then I get this major kick under the table from my friend. And it's clear he didn't have restless leg syndrome. That this was a deliberate act on his part because she had asked, well, and I'll give him the name Jim. Jim doesn't do this though, Dennis. And of course, I was about to spit out my Diet Coke. What do you mean Jim doesn't do what? What do you think, your husband loses his eyeballs or testosterone when he plays racquetball? That's what I was going to say, but I get this major kick and I go, oh, Jim, of course, only I do. And I remember thinking, oh, wow, if I get married, or not if, when I get married one day, am I going to have to lie to my wife? Because that, to me, the essence of friendship, let alone love of spouse, is that you can say everything about yourself. I've always felt that. And men hide their sexual natures. That's the reason I'm writing the book, writing the book. So we're talking about being looked at that way. And I'll take your calls. This is the Male-Female Hour on The Dennis Prager Show.
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Mm-hmm.
So the subject today is men looking at women that way. And, uh, we're not talking about husbands and wives, we're talking about men and women, all the other members of the 8 billion human society. And, uh, it is natural, it is normal. Leering and staring, well, that's, that's over the top. But I assure you, and I see it already from calls coming in from around the country, that I ask women who are discomforted by it, how would you feel if no men did look at you, quote unquote, that way? Would you really feel better? Alrighty, let's go to Dallas, Texas, and Jenny.
Hi, Dennis.
Hi, Jenny. Dennis Prager with the Male-Female Hour.
Hi, Dennis. How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
I just wanted to say that I'm 50. I've been married 28 years, and when a man looks at me just a little bit too long— not a stare, just a little long look— I love it. It just tells me that I am doing something right. I love it. And even more than that, if they're with a woman, And she looks at me too in that way that just tells me that she likes the way I look. She admires something about me, so I love it.
Well, you know what? You know what you sound like, Jenny? Let me, let me put it to you very clearly. You know what you sound like? Like you're healthy.
I am healthy.
Yes, it's clear.
I have a healthy respect for—
And I love the fact, I love the fact that you're 50 and saying this because Because I know that women wrestle with this and they have only my sympathy because age is not the biggest ally. But today, given nutrition and given exercise and given the right plastic surgery here and there, which I have never— I don't understand a single moral argument against it. Women look great. At virtually every age these days.
Yeah, and my husband tells me that. I know I'm not perfect, but as long as people are still looking, I think you hit the nail on the head by saying I would personally have a much bigger problem if they were not looking.
That's right, as we will hear from another caller. Well, God bless you. Uh, you, you and your husband are both lucky. So here we'll hear, uh, the, the other side of that coin, if you will, in, uh, let's see, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, where are we going? Um, Is that it? Was I right? Did I click? I did click on the right one, yes. So we're going to stay in Texas then, Harris County, Texas, and Bridget. Hi, Bridget, thank you for calling.
Hello, Mr. Prager.
Hi.
Hi. I just wanted to call and thank you for your program. It's very insightful. I've been listening to you for a few months and—
Wonderful.
I just wanted to let you know that Uh, I'm sorry for the stammering. I'm a little nervous.
That's okay.
Um, I, um, I fully agree with what you're saying because I'm, I'm going to be 53 pretty soon. And, um, when I was younger, I was very, very attractive and I got a whole bunch of looks. And, uh, I'm now very ill and, you know, my, my looks have gone away completely. And it doesn't happen anymore. I was getting looks up until I was, um, uh, in my late 40s. Um, and now it doesn't happen because of my illness. And I'm grateful that I was never one to go by my looks.
Right.
It was always, um, you know, it had to be based on the person.
Are you married?
Um, I'm separated.
Mm-hmm.
Been separated for a very long time.
May I ask what the illness is?
Um, uh, I have a deformity in my spine.
Mm-hmm.
And, um—
Is it scoliosis?
It's, it's, uh, it's, it's, uh, it is scoliosis.
Well, you should know, uh, it's— that insurance covers surgery for scoliosis, and I've known, as it happens, women who have had that surgery, and they are— they're perfectly fine now.
I've sought, um, surgery, you know, I've sought, uh, and I'm not a surgical candidate, unfortunately.
Oh, I see. You're not a surgical candidate.
No, no, but I, I have other, um, uh, problems that are involved.
I see. Okay. And, um, so, well, your, your call, your call, uh, you know, your call touches me. I mean, obviously, and it— I could see why you'd be a little nervous in making it. It's the thing that is so important about these hours that I do is that people are so open and so honest as I am. And it takes, it takes guts to do that. But it's the only way people open up is if you open up. And so I deal with these issues openly. And, and your call is important. I pray for your ability to get better. And then to do what it takes to, to, uh, you know, help your attractiveness. I also would commend to you by the— there are many, many ways to lead a happy life. And I don't argue that the only way a woman can have a happy life is to be looked at that way. God knows, otherwise, otherwise happiness would not be available to, uh, a lot of humanity. So, you know, with friends in particular, with travel, with reading, with— I mean, it's infinite. So I have a happiness hour. But it's a loss. You see, this is a perfect example of where the compassion side of me says, just say to the woman, oh, it's no big deal. There's so much else in life. And, you know, and it's no, no, no big issue. But I'd be lying. It is a loss. It is a loss to most women not to be looked at that way anymore. Yes. But it's not a loss that means that it's the end of the possibility of a happy life. There, one has to chew gum and walk at the same time. You have to, you have to live and live as full a life as you can. But that is a loss. That's all. And the reason that I want to note it, note that it's a loss is for those of you women who are looked at, quote, that way, not to complain about it. Because here you're hearing a woman who isn't any longer looked at that way for reasons that she cannot control. And, and, and it's a loss. It's a lament. That's the reason that that's important for the— for people to hear. You should be grateful if you are looked at that way. That's a gift, and it's not necessarily permanent, though it's, it's a hell of a lot longer than it ever used to be, certainly in affluent Western society. All right, we continue on the Male-Female Hour at 1-800-PRAGER-776. And thank you, Bridget, and God bless you and good luck.
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All right, everybody, Dennis Prager here, the This is the male-female hour, and the subject is men looking at women that way. And my argument is that when men stop looking at you that way, you will have wondered, why did I really feel bad when they did? Now, of course, can men overdo it? Of course. There's an element of civilized behavior, even— I'm not even talking about the issue of touching, just even in the way In the amount and the way men look, but of course men look. And women, healthy women, are happy to be looked at. That's, that's the argument here. All right, Louisa in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey on AM 970 The Apple. Hi, Louisa. Louisa coming in. Come in once.
Hello, Dennis.
All right, I'll say what she wanted to say. She is very modest. This is the summary from the screener. I am very modest and conservative, but to be stared at is very uncomfortable. To me, it is an invasion, especially if men stare for a long time. Yes, if you stare for a long time, it's an invasion having nothing to do with sex. It's an invasion of anybody. If a man looks at a man, a man looks at a woman, a woman looks at a man, a woman looks at a woman, anybody looking at anybody for a long time is an invasion. But that's not what looking that way is about. It means that they note, a man notices you as a, as a woman and not just as a fellow human being who was crossing the street. And yes, there is a sexual overtone to it. Of course there is. Why would that make you uncomfortable? If it makes you uncomfortable, your argument is really with God. That's how he made us. And I always repeat that. That's why it's so important to understand the sexual nature of men. And when done respectfully, it is a beautiful thing. That's why I title the book I'm writing, Your Man Is Not a Pervert. These things are not perversions. I'll tell you another thing, a title that I remember when I was 30, I got angry at the Dirty Old Man title. I think it's despicable. What do you think? Men lose their sexual interest when they reach a certain birthday? Well, I might as well tell my favorite, my all-time I, I— how many times have I said my all-time favorite call? Not many. Of course, one is the celery, clearly. You know, when I asked the guy what 2 tons of celery, which he was hauling in his truck, smelled like, and with great hesitation, not wanting to embarrass me, he said, like celery. It's one of the great moments of the show's history. But here was another great one. A woman doctor called me. This is going into my book. A woman doctor called me and she said, you know, it's very uncomfortable sometimes with men. I said, really? She said, yeah, the other day, or the, I don't know, the other week, whatever it was, I was with a man. I was actually, he was in his 90s and he was dying. And just as he was dying, he was looking down my blouse. And I told her, I said, I just want you to know I envy the guy. And that's a great way to go out. That's not the response she wanted. She wanted sympathy. Now, is he a dirty old man? Is that— that's disgusting to say that. It's just disgusting. Why is he dirty? So if you're 40 and you're dying and you're looking down her shirt, then it's normal. But if he's in his 90s, then what? What exactly?
All right.
So I defend men a lot. I can't stand a lot of male, uh, male behavior, obviously. That's why I believe so deeply in character development. But men are getting a raw deal, and I'm not sure that women would really like us to be so much more like them. They may claim it, but they don't want it. All right, I will take more of your calls, and it's too bad we didn't get Louisa on. Because, uh, I, I, uh, I— well, I gave my answer. Back in a moment, the Male-Female Hour, Dennis Prager Show.
Dennis.
Dennis. Dennis.
Dennis Prager.
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And it's—
I think it's the most honest discussion of these matters, at least that I know of, in the media today, at least the electronic media. That's not a— it's not a boast. Uh, it's just, I think, a fair statement about how open and honest we are, uh, because clarity is our friend, not our enemy. Anyway, let's go on to more of your calls. The subject today is—
What?
men looking at women, quote unquote, like that, that it's fine. Anything can be overdone and done poorly, but it is a good, healthy part of relations. I know that there are people who are opposed to it. Where was I just reading about, about people who— In fact, I was with— there was a very, very religious group of people on a plane. Uh, and, uh, they would hide their eyes when, uh, when stewardesses would walk by. It was, uh, it was really something. It was something as if it's sinful because they may have a sinful thought. Well, okay, uh, let's go to Minneapolis and Chrissy. Hello, Chrissy. Dennis Prager.
Hi Dennis, I love your show.
Thank you.
Um, the one question that I would have for the woman that sent the email would be, how does she know that the men are looking at her in that way? I was just— and the reason I say that is because I was just talking with my son and we remembered, um, something that happened several years ago. He was about 8 years old. We were out to lunch and all of a sudden he says, Mom, Why do men always look at you?
Really? At 8?
And I said, no, they don't look at me. He goes, yes, they do.
And when you— wait, wait, when you said to him, they don't look at me, you, you meant that seriously?
I did. I was totally oblivious.
Right. No, a lot of women are oblivious. Yeah, a lot are and a lot aren't. Yeah.
Okay.
And so then now he's 22, and we were just talking about this as your show was on. And he said, you know, Mom, we just— we can't help it. And the majority of us, we try to do it in a way that's discreet and not creepy. We kind of use our peripheral vision a lot of times, but we just can't help it. And so I'm wondering, you know, maybe— I don't know what kind of men this woman kind of hangs out with, or if she, you know, um, or how she even knows that men are looking at her, because I, I would truly believe that the majority of men Don't do it in a way that's very obvious.
That's correct. It's sort of a game. Yeah, yeah, she tries to be as attractive as possible and he tries to act as oblivious to her attractiveness as possible. It's, it's, it's the ultimate game that is played out there. That is exactly right. Uh, but sometimes they catch you and then, you know, you feel like, uh, 10 cents, you know, and, uh, Or, uh, you are looking, but you're doing it in a way that is so normal that she thinks you're thinking about the World Series. Because after all, men are only thinking about sports.
This is what I have to put up with.
It's like having your brain set to music to sit in the studio. All righty, let's continue with more calls here. Torrance, California. Larry, hello, Larry. Dennis Prager.
Dennis, hi, it's nice to talk to you again.
Thank you.
I was calling because I tend to disagree with the first couple women that called and said that they enjoy being looked at regardless of what age they were, because I think it's a small percentage. Because there's a club, and I don't know if it's nationally franchised or not, it's called Curvy Curves for women, and it's an exercise club from what I understand, and from what I've read about it is it's for women only. They don't allow men in these clubs, and it's because I've read that the women do not want to be looked at in that way while they're working out.
Right, yes, that's a very interesting point you raise, Larry, and it's a good one. There are 2 factors, as I understand it, with something like that, and they're quite ironically, their opposite. There are women who don't think that they are attractive and therefore feel that they stick out at a gym with all these young, perfectly shaped women, at least in their view. And so they feel self-conscious in that way and they want to go to the all-women's workout. On the other end are women who are looked at a great deal and don't enjoy having their entire workout In effect, a show for men. I mean, they're often either scantily dressed or very tight, figure-hugging clothing. In either case, it is an erotic experience, if you will, visually for men. And so they don't— they feel funny in that way. But that's not the same as going out in regular life And, and being looked at. And that is why I thought the, the calls here, uh, from the women in middle age were so important. I only ask women who do feel, uh, odd about being looked at like that in daily life, uh, do you think you will be happier, uh, should the day come when you are not looked at at all like that? You may think so now. I'm not sure you will feel that way. And that's really a big part of the reason for this hour, is to have people realize this is more a blessing than a curse. And that you control it in a large measure too by how you dress, how you comport yourself. I mean, there is nothing I find more obnoxious than a woman who is wearing a miniskirt and tank top and then resents being looked at. Hello? Hello? That is the new definition of chutzpah. That is like the kid who shoots his parents and then begs the court for mercy on the grounds that he's an orphan. Okay, we go to— we'll go to Denver when we come back, in fact. A dating researcher who's interviewed 1,100 men and women.
Wow.
Okay.
Huh.
Got an interesting thought, this woman. All right, we'll take as many as we can, and I'd love your emails on this. In fact, I actually gather them up into an entire file on the, on the male-female issue, and many of them are helpful to me in writing my book, Your Man Is Not a Pervert. Back in a moment. I'm Dennis Prager.
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Dennis Prager here, the Male-Female Hour. Men looking at women in that way. The subject, Rachel in Denver. Dennis Prager, hi.
Hi.
Hi.
So I have spent the last 10 years conducting a very unusual research project asking men and women why they don't call back after a good first date. And what was very interesting on your topic is that the number 3 most common reason men revealed— I mean, I'm sorry, that women revealed— was that something I call the garbage man. And this is when a guy looks at a woman or In that way, or makes lewd, crude comments to her.
Lewd, crude comments and looking are in different universes, and I 100% agree with your research.
So the look that was really interesting, there's a woman in Boston, for example, a 34-year-old woman who told me that she met a guy for a 4 o'clock coffee date at Starbucks, and he started undressing her with his eyes right away, saying how beautiful she looked.
He's an idiot.
Her outfit.
We have to do a show on— I have to talk to men on how not to be idiots.
Right, right.
All right, all right, shut up. He's impossible. Alan, send him away.
The issue too is, um—
You are—
Rachel, bless you, bless you. Uh, you, you have to send me an email telling me who you are. I, I, this is, this is— I, I agree with every word she just said, folks. There is a difference between a guy looking at you to let you know he finds you attractive And that he's alive that way and undressing you, obviously. That's leering. And on a first date, guys, what are you, dumb? Well, that was rhetorical. The answer is, in many cases, yes, Dennis, we are dumb. That's why I'm here to help you not be dumb. First of all, a woman wants to know you think she's beautiful once she loves you. Once she's interested in you, not before that. Okay? That doesn't— it's, it's, it's you. How would you— let's say you are wealthy and on the first date a woman says, wow, are you rich? Are you? That is exactly what it is to a beautiful woman to be told she's beautiful on a first date. Okay, guys? Wow, are you rich? You're gonna think that she's impressive? You think you're gonna have a second date with her? That's probably the dumbest thing you could say. How about, I actually find you interesting beyond your beauty? Oh man, I tell you, this is such elementary stuff. That was important, Rachel. Brian and Karen and Francesca and Carol, I really wish I could have taken your calls. I would love more emails on this. It's not a topic we will, you know, not go back to. This has been the Male-Female Hour on The Dennis Prager Show. Don't go away.
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All right, so was I correct in saying to begin with that Jefferson and Hamilton despised each other both personally and philosophically?
I think you were pretty much right on target. They had a bitter relationship. Both of them claimed that they were only rivals politically, but I think it went deeper than that, and I think you were right on target.
Now, in a nutshell, and then we'll certainly obviously make that bigger than a nutshell, because that's what your book is about, What did they represent each? What did each represent philosophically?
Well, uh, Jefferson, uh, was in favor of a small, uh, unobtrusive, uh, government. Uh, he wanted to, uh, maintain, uh, the, the agrarian, uh, nature of the economy. I think he He had visions of it taking 200 or 300 years to advance from the Appalachians to the Pacific Ocean, and that during all of that time, 95% of the people would remain farmers. And Hamilton favored a much stronger government, a government that could foster development of— I hate to say industrialization, because that wasn't really—
Right.
A term that they used, but would make the country more productive. And more than anything, Hamilton was pushing to make the United States strong enough that it not only could stand on its own 2 feet against the predatory powers in Europe, but that it would be— it would have the power to continue to expand and drive some of the smaller powers like Spain out of, of the periphery of the United States.
Do, do my listeners and me a favor, because I, I think that most Americans don't realize how important Hamilton was to the founding of the nation. And maybe because he was— well, A, do you think I'm right? And B, if I'm right, why do you think that's happened?
That people don't understand?
Yes, how important Hamilton was to the founding.
Well, I think we tend to probably focus on presidents, and he was, he was never president. He was a member of a cabinet. He was Washington's Secretary of of the Treasury. His life was cut short in that duel with Aaron Burr in 1804. He was only in his mid-40s when he died in that duel. And so I think all of those things have conspired to kind of obliterate his image.
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