Jocko Willink argues that freedom comes from discipline. A classical violinist needs years of practice to play freely, just as Jimmy Page mastered studio work before he could create Led Zeppelin's sound. The book Discipline Equals Freedom explores this across music and life.
SEAL, host of the popular Jocko podcast. I'm just going to take a couple more minutes, and I think, uh, I'd like to do an hour with you if that's okay, on a future date, because, uh, I've got a lot.
Always sounds good to me, Dennis. Appreciate it.
Thank you. It's important people hear what you have to say. Discipline Equals Freedom is the name of the book, and it should be given to every young person. And if they're really young, in other words teenager, early or preteen even, might wanna read it out loud and then discuss it with them. I wanna give one example of discipline equals freedom. I'm into classical music, as my listeners know. So when I watch a great violinist or great pianist, I think, wow, they have ultimate freedom. They can play that instrument. I can't. So how did they get there? How did they get the freedom to play? And the answer is discipline. Guy once, once says an old joke, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Answer, practice.
Yes, I've used a similar example. I, I like rock and roll, and the guitarist from Led Zeppelin, a guy by the name of Jimmy Page, he was a studio musician for years, and he just played one exact note for note what he was told to play, and he played all the time in that mode. And by the time he got into the rock and roll band Led Zeppelin, he had complete freedom to make that guitar sound how he wanted it to sound. Because he had the discipline.
Exactly. It's exactly the same as mine, just different form of music. That's exactly right. All right, my friend, we're going to do an hour together. I just, I'm so crazy about the book. I just wanted to, in this very urgent time, take time out to tell people about it. Discipline Equals Freedom. Jocko, we'll talk soon. Thanks, Dennis Prager. You, you, my friend, to say the least, have earned it. Thank you.
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