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Dennis Prager criticizes Stanford's language policy as censorship, then interviews Jan 6 participant John Mellis about his nearly two years in jail. Mellis describes solitary confinement, beatings, and denied visitation, which Prager frames as political persecution.
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Maybe years.
Yeah, show them things years. And I'm not kidding because I try to make large points from the micro issues that I might be discussing. The day, an issue of the day, but there is a larger point. 1-800-PRAGER-776-877-243-7776. So yesterday, for example, I brought to your attention Stanford sinking to a level absurdity. There's sort of degrees of decline, and the ultimate, aside from evil, the ultimate is when you're You're laughable when you're— when you've made a mockery of yourself, as Stanford has. It's a very sad thing for me to say because at one time universities were a jewel in America, and it's not long— now they are the anti-jewel, if you will. I, I actually looked through the entire Stanford— what is it called? Stanford Guide to Acceptable Words, I believe that is the name, or an Index of Forbidden Words. Actually, I want to— I, I read to you yesterday some of them, and I only— only the ones that the Wall Street Journal editorial— here it's titled, uh, editorial noted, Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative. The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative, EHLI, is a multi-phase, multi-year project to address harmful language at Stanford. At Stanford. So, uh, it's gigantic. It's listed, for example, ableist. Ableist language is language that is offensive to people who live with disabilities and/or devalues people who live with disabilities. Notice, by the way, you can no longer say a disabled person, a person who lives with disabilities. Do you know of a difference? Oh yes, I see. The difference is the person is not disabled, the person merely has disabilities. Okay, I understand the intent on that. So you can no longer call a person an addict. This is again from Stanford. Rather, person with a substance use disorder. Okay, addicted. Instead of saying someone is addicted, the language that you should be using is hooked or devoted. Devoted. He is devoted to alcohol. Is that precious? That's what I say. They've made a mockery of themselves at Stanford.
You—
so a Stanford professor or student should not say about someone he or she is addicted, rather hooked Why is hooked better? Do you understand why, Mr. McConnell? I know they gave a reason why addict was bad, but it's so— No, this is addicted that is bad. Addict is a separate category. This is addicted, hooked, or devoted. Devoted. That's right, devoted. He's laughing. Basket case. You can't say somebody is a basket case at Stanford. That is now forbidden. You can't say, you know, he's a basket case. So guess what the proper term for someone who is a basket case is? You know, you must understand, this is serious. It's one of the most prestigious universities in the world. That has become a farce. Did one professor at Stanford speak up against this? Maybe, but I'm not aware of it. Nervous. Instead of saying basket case, you should say he's nervous. What was wrong, by the way, uh, with basket case? Do you have any idea? Originally referred to as one who has lost all four limbs and therefore needs to be carried around in a basket. I didn't know that. Who cares? It's like the people who call me up and say, oh, this holiday or that has pagan origins, so I won't celebrate it. It doesn't matter. It's what it's become that matters. Who knows what basket case originally meant? Anyway, it's not literal. It's a way of saying this guy's a loser. Is loser better? Guy's a basket case. I'm going to start using it now. I, I just, just to rile Stanford. That's right, Hunter Biden was devoted to crack. It's a beautiful thing. It's a devotion. It was a daily devotion. That is correct. And he was never a basket case. He, he was, he was nervous. Blind review or blind study, you can't say that because unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative. Furthering an ableist culture. So you cannot say that blind is abnormal or negative. It's normal and positive. Lucky you, you're blind! How many Americans know how, how much Stanford has sunk? How many parents are so thrilled when their kids go to this wasteland? Because they want their kids to make a lot of money. You don't think this will damage your child? It might not. It might not. There are kids who actually escape Stanford or Columbia or Yale, Penn, with their values and decency intact. But many don't. Isn't that amazing? You can't say a blind review or blind study because it perpetuates the myth that blindness is abnormal or negative. Committed suicide— you can't say somebody committed suicide. I don't even know why. You say— you guess is what you should say at Stanford— he died by suicide, not he committed suicide. What's the difference? He died by suicide. I guess it sort of implies he didn't do it. He died by suicide. Can you say he drowned, or do you say he died by by drowning. That's right, it is exactly like that. When the kid says, "Oh, it spilled. The grape juice spilled on the white tablecloth. I didn't spill it." Able— what is the objection at Stanford? Ableist language that trivializes the experience of people living with mental health conditions. Why is committed suicide trivialize anything? There are as many administrators at Stanford as there are students. The difference is minimal. Dennis Prager returns. I'd like to introduce you to Monorail, America's investment app that takes you from where you are to where you want to be. Monorail is an investment and savings app that is made for patriots by patriots. Doesn't matter whether you're an Apple fan or if you prefer Android, Monorail is available in both environments and online at monorail.com. Monorail is safer for users with bank-level encryption and biometrics. Your money is protected with Monorail through Securities Investor Protection Corporation and the FDIC. 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Give charity, give something. It's a beautiful thing to do. You'll be happier a human being the moment you do it. The trick is to get yourself to do it. This brings a gift to a kid who has a parent in prison, and they give him some religious stories. That way it gives the kid hope. So it's the Angel Tree campaign. The banner is at DennisPrager.com. $25 takes care of a kid. $250, $10 $25,000 takes care of 1,000 kids. I want to thank Sean for his contribution to The Dennis Prager Show. All right, the banner for the angel tree is at my website, dennisprager.com. My wife had a good line many years ago about these professors and administrators. They have too much time on their hands. Well, that's a different way of saying what I have offered as my equation of our time. Affluence plus secularism equals boredom. And leads to mischief, which is leftism. Affluence plus secularism, very bad combo, because the two things that gave people meaning, religion and working for the next meal, are gone. They're affluent, they don't have to worry about the next meal. They have to worry about where they'll buy another house, or even not that rich, doesn't matter. They don't have to worry about a meal. The people worried about a meal are not worried about not saying ableist language. They actually think that blind is abnormal and a disability. All right, so let's see what else. This is really something. This is what is given out by Stanford. How long will it take? I don't know. I don't know the answer to this. How long will it take for people to associate universities with idiocy, with often bad people, and almost always with fools? When will they stop thinking, oh, I have to have a college fund for my kid? Maybe you don't. You can't say— you can't say crazy. That's on the list. Can't say crazy at Stanford. So what is the— what should you use? They give you substitutes. You should use surprising or wild. Is that unbelievable? That guy who, uh, that guy who just, uh, killed 6 people, he is crazy. No, he is surprising. The self-mockery at Stanford is so deep. If you have a kid at Stanford, I hope this troubles you. You're probably thinking, ah, come on, my kid, my kid's not going to fall for this. Oh really? How do you know? How do you know? Did you prepare your child that well? Interesting. I don't know, but it's, it's, it's incredible. Crazy. It's ableist language that experiences of people— it trivializes the experiences of people living with mental health conditions. It does. That's crazy. So when I say that this list is crazy, should I— what I should say is it's surprising. But it's not surprising. It comes from a university, especially an elite one. Can't say crippled, of course. And what else? You can't say dumb. Oh, that is really dumb. Can't say that either. Nothing is crazy and nothing is dumb. Dumb, you should say, is non-vocal or non-verbal. What a non-vocal idea.
It's—
they say that they had multiple professors working multiple— I don't know, what is it, years on this list. I believe that no one person could have come up with something so dumb. Oh, excuse me, something so nonvocal. Oh, you can't have handicapped parking anymore. No handicapped parking at Stanford. Instead, accessible parking. The problem is all parking is accessible. Doesn't mean anything. Handicapped space. Nobody's handicapped. Yep, it's accessible place. Insane— can't use that anymore. Back to surprising. Yes, well, we no longer say insane asylum, but if we did, we would have to say surprising asylum. Yes. Nobody's insane. Get it? Nobody. Lame. Can't use that. Boring or uncool. Mentally ill. Oh my God, that's out. Person living with a mental health condition. All right. Oh, we can't use OCD. Nope, can't do that. Instead, detail-oriented. The problem is detail-oriented is a compliment. OCD is a problem. So the guy washes his hands 18 times a day, he's detail-oriented. See, you have to understand what is at the core here— a lie. These are all lies because truth is not a left-wing value. I say it every single day because every single day I have another example. OCD is detail-oriented. One's a compliment and one is a mental illness. It's not an insult. Stanford University. We'll be back in a moment. MyPillow is excited to bring you their biggest bedding sale ever, and just in time for Christmas. For a limited time, get the Giza Dream bed sheets for as low as $29.98, a set of pillowcases for only $9.98, and rejuvenate your bed with a MyPillow mattress topper for as low as $99.99. They also have blankets in a variety of sizes, colors, and styles. They even have blankets for your pets. Get duvets, quilts, down comforters, body pillows, bolster pillows, and so much more, all with the biggest discounts of the year happening now. They're also extending their money-back guarantee for Christmas until March 1st, 2023, making them the perfect gifts for your friends, your family, and everyone you know. So go to mypillow.com and use the promo code Prager, or call 800-761-6302. You'll get huge discounts on all MyPillow bedding products, including the Giza Dream bedsheets, for as low as $29.98. And get all your shopping done now while quantities last. Hey everybody, it's been Hanukkah since Sunday night. It's 8 days. I have a piece up at Fox News explaining about Hanukkah and how it saved Western civilization ultimately. You'll find it, I think, fascinating. It's again, it's up at Fox News, my column explaining Hanukkah. In fact, I end with a suggestion. Everybody should light a candle every night for 8 nights because The consequences of the Jewish rebellion against the Greek tyrant Antiochus IV were universal. This was understood by the founders of the country. As John Adams put it, the Hebrews did more to create civilization than any other group. I fear that antisemitism might rear its head in America for the first time in any large measure. With the breakdown of Judeo-Christian norms, there will be an anti-Judeo. Jews who wanted to have a radically secular society may get what they aimed for and then regret it. And that's sad, but that is what I believe. And of course, I'm saying it as a Jew. All right, let's see here. Phil in La Cañada, California. Hello.
Um, I have a minor complaint.
The—
I think Uh, well, first of all, I agree with you that most of the words that they have on the list are ridiculous, but I think you're miscategorizing the list. At no point do they say these words are forbidden. Uh, basically they're trying to make things easier for people. For instance, the dumb— uh, I'm looking at what they printed here. Dumb was used to describe a person who was unable to speak, as in deaf and dumb. And they're just saying in whatever context you're using, it's preferable not to say dumb but nonverbal. They're not saying that you can't call someone dumb or an idea dumb.
No, but they are. I know you mean well, and you can't believe that they would be that silly, or if you will, that dumb.
A lot of what they have—
No, no, no, I'm talking specifically about the one you raise. If they said, in the context of a person not being able to speak, you should say nonverbal rather than dumb, that would be fine. That's not what they're saying. The implication is a universal ban on the word dumb.
Again, it's not a ban.
Okay, so let me— all right, that's a very fair objection, and I'll tell you my response. At the university, first of all, they use the word elimination. Elimination is not a suggestion. And you're right, it is not a legal ban. They can't legally ban it. But at the university, when they tell you not to use language and you start using it, you find yourself gradually in a minority and ultimately canceled. And I, I promise you that most professors will start using this new language. He didn't commit suicide, he died by suicide. Listen, uh, they're now changing on this list. It says no longer use preferred pronouns, use pronouns. I would make you a friendly bet, Phil, of, of $100, because we live not far from one another. I would bet you that within one year they no longer say preferred pronouns at Stanford, but rather pronouns?
I'm too smart to take that bet.
Okay, fair enough.
You're probably right.
I mean, all right, so, okay, go ahead.
I'm sorry. Okay, there's one example that it's flat out wrong. There's a phrase, um, I'll try and use it, uh, to go all out on something is balls to the wall. Yeah, they say you can't use that, right? Because Yeah, but they're totally wrong. In aviation, your controls, especially the mixture and power control, it's kind of a knob or a ball that if you pull out to have it on—
Oh, so it doesn't mean testes?
Not at all.
Oh, that is cool. All right. I did. I had not been familiar with the phrase to begin with. All right, thank you for the call. Depending on what you're celebrating, or both, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah. Hey everybody, Dennis Prager here. I have a man that I have great admiration for, and I have been in my way— others have done way more than me, way more than I. I like grammar. And He is in prison. I've been speaking to him in prison, John Mellis. He entered the Capitol on January 6th, 2021, and he has now been in prison nearly 2 years. In America, if you entered the Capitol, you are more likely to be imprisoned than if you kill somebody. It does more or less come to that. John Mellis is still in prison. John, when I— I don't normally say to people, how are you, because it's just a way of saying hello, but I really am curious, how are you?
Oh, I'm, uh, well, uh, I'm okay, as good as I can be, I guess. Uh, but, uh, first I, I just want to say thank you, Mr. Prager, and happy Hanukkah. It's been an honor. It's an honor to be back on your, on your show. I really appreciate you allowing me the opportunity to bring awareness to the inhumane and unconstitutional conditions we J6ers have been suffering for almost 2 years. I'm also very grateful you have helped us raise public awareness to the circumstances surrounding the death of Roseanne Boyland at the hands of police on January 6th, and that over a dozen men, including myself, are facing serious prison time for trying to save her life. Thank you for all of that. It really does— I can go into the conditions here at the jail for the last 2 years. I mean, I have not seen my family. There is no visitation, no video visitation allowed for us J6ers. We are all in the same pod together, so there are about 20 of us right now at this jail. In the pod together. Our pod does not get visitation or video visitation. The rest of the jail does, in-person visits and video visits. We don't, we don't get any of that. We have been subjected to, you know, occasional beatings by the correctional officers, one of which I can speak more about in a minute. It happened on Labor Day. One of the more recent ones, but we have black mold. We deal with black mold everywhere in this place. The water is brown and yellow, whatever day, you know. It's terrible, our drinking water. It smells terrible. The grievance process here is broken. There's no recourse for any of our complaints. And every time there's a judgment against this jail, whether it's in court whether it's this jail being held in contempt for denying cancer treatment to certain inmates or whether it's, you know, whatever it is, that they lost their federal contract, there was a SNAP inspection the U.S. Marshals did last year and they took 200 federal inmates out of this jail before the jail was able to salvage it. Anytime there's a judgment or anything bad that happens to this jail because of us, our food is then poisoned for the next several days, our food trays. Will be spiked with cleaning chemicals. I've even experienced several of the guys, including myself, have been attempted— they did— jail staff have attempted to frame us with threatening letters. So they're like terroristic threatening letters with white powdery substances in them sent to federal judges in our names. And I was interviewed by the U.S. Marshals about this, and they knew when I— before I even got in the room for them to interview me, interviewed me about this, they already knew I was being framed. And they believed it was a correctional officer. They know it's a correctional officer because the envelopes are printed with a computer, and no inmate has access to that kind of technology. So, I mean, the list goes on. I mean, the beatings are really crazy. You know, a few days after Joe Biden was on stage bathed in red, flanked by two Marines, telling America that MAGA Republicans are the enemy of the people. Just a few days later, on Labor Day, Ronald Maccabee, a J6er in this jail— he's been moved out now because of this— he was going to get his morning meds with no mask on, and Lieutenant Lancaster sprayed him with mace 3 times. The guards slammed him on the ground and sprayed him point-blank as he was being restrained, he was nonviolent. He was completely nonviolent. And, um, they, they do this regularly to us. This is just one of many, many instances that this— but, uh, another side note on this is that Ronald Maccabee is a former sheriff's deputy. He's a cop, and he's being held— they're trying to give him 10 years in prison because he tried to help Roseanne Boylan. He was right there with us. Um, you know, I, I mean, I could just go on.
Well, let's begin with the atrocity that you have not been, uh, brought to a courtroom. You've just been languishing in, in a jail cell for trespassing. Did I, did I lose John? I guess I did. I wonder if they disconnected him. Do you guys have a number to try him again? Why don't you do that? Is it— isn't a, uh, a speedy trial a constitutional right for a— for an American? Did he hurt anybody? And in— when I said that you're more likely to be in prison than if you killed somebody, because people who kill people, they're Unless it's some mass murder or some, some atrocity that's on video, and even then it's not guaranteed, uh, you, you do get, uh, bond. You, you, then you come back on for a trial. Okay, so John, what happened? Oh, I thought you were— I thought you were signaling that he's on. What were you signaling to me? You were signaling that you're close? I see. Okay. All right. We have in the United States of America, for the first time in my experience, political prisoners. There's an institution called Freedom House which lists countries by levels of freedom. I haven't looked there for many years. I don't know if they still exist, but if they do, America should not be on the free list. It should be— it's not— should not be on the unfree list. It should be in the mid— in the middle. It's called partially free. This is what the left has done to a free country. The sadism is quite remarkable. They are not allowed. They enter the Capitol. Murderers and rapists can get visits, but these people cannot get visits from relatives, friends, video calls. So, John, what happened? I guess we don't have him. You keep telling me we have him, but we don't have him. Okay, I don't know what happened, my dear friends. Maybe they disconnected his connection because he mentioned a correction of— John, what happened? I'll ask again. Hello? Yes, sir. Yeah, what happened? Do you have any idea why we were disconnected?
I don't know. All of the phones went out for just a moment. This happened exactly— this exact thing happened last time I was being interviewed by you too, remember?
Um, I do.
But, um, yes sir, I, I just want to point out one, one small thing to your audience, that everything that I'm talking about with you today and anytime I've ever spoken to you is on my website. It is wearegoodmen.com. You can go check that website out, wearegoodmen.com, and we've got videos, evidence, we've got interviews with different J6ers, we've got written testimonials from J6ers. I mean, all of it is there.
Uh, wearegoodmen.com. Please, folks, please. Do you get to use a computer and see who visits?
No, I don't have access to a computer. We have, uh, these tablets that, uh, we, we, uh, we have access to like messages, so I can message my family kind of thing on like a text message kind of thing. Um, but we don't have—
actually, you're not, you're not allowed on the internet.
No, sir. No, sir. My, my girlfriend, uh, Kelly, uh, runs the website.
And, and right, by the way, I met your girlfriend Kelly in Phoenix this past weekend when I spoke for TPUSA, and she— well, I could see why you love her, I'll tell you that. She, she has everything going for her, and I, I thank God that she is in your life. I, I can't tell you how, how happy I was to meet her. She's vivacious, she's intelligent, she's beautiful. It was— it made my day. I want her to know this. I want you to know this because you, you deserve the best. We'll be back with John Millis, who is in prison for no good reason. Are you a successful loan officer in the mortgage business looking to grow your business in 2023? Are you looking for a dynamic and supportive work environment with a team I trust? Are you looking for a wonderful culture with people who share your values? Andrew Del Rey and Todd Avakian of AndrewAndTodd.com are looking for experienced loan officers to join their team. They're looking for people who value their clients and are solution-based problem solvers. Maybe you've worked in an environment that treats loan officers and their clients like a number, and you're ready for a real and meaningful change. They have offices in Southern California but service clients nationwide. So whether you're in California or out of state, I invite you to talk to them about joining their team. Call them at 888-888-1172. That's 888-888-1172. Or click the Join Our Team button at andrewandtodd.com. Spirits bright, what fun it is to sing. John Malice is in prison for almost 2 years for entering the Capitol on January 6th. He's never been given a hearing. As I said, murderers and rapists are given hearings. But not only has he not been given a hearing, he has not been allowed to receive a visit from a relative or friend. He can't even do video. That's sadism. The, the left is despicable, as I've told you all of my life. There's a viciousness at the core of leftism that is consistent wherever the left is in power. I'm not talking about liberals. Liberals are weak, but they're not vicious. The cruelty of these people is really remarkable. I did not know you can't even get a video call from a family member. Don't you have children?
No, sir. No video visits. No, uh, no visitation.
When you ask them why no, why no video visits, what is their answer?
Um, with these exact tablets that I just told you about where we can message our families like a text message, uh, in other jails the exact same model, make, and everything does video visitation. So they have the capability to allow us to do it. They just don't, and they give us all sorts of of excuses. I have to correct you on something that you said. I never went inside the Capitol building. I was on the Lower West Terrace, and I witnessed the trampling and beating to death of Roseanne Boylan at the hands of police. I tried to intervene, and I've been held without bond, not even a bond— like you said, not even a bond hearing, not even a hearing to decide whether I get a bond for almost 2 years. And I also want to just mention real quick that we have, we spent about a year of this 2 years on solitary confinement. That is 23 hours or 22 hours at maximum in our cell every day. That was the first year we were locked up. So Jamie Raskin, Congressman Jamie Raskin, was on 60 Minutes or something the other week and said, we're not just snatching these people off the street and putting them on solitary confinement. That was a complete lie. Complete and utter lie. They are doing—
Well, truth is not a left-wing value. I mean, I just—
this is—
it's another example. They, they march to their own moral code, which is whatever we feel is right is right, and we can trample on other human beings. That is the— every leftist thinks that way. Not every liberal. I always make that distinction. But I— I don't think that way. You're not a leftist. And look, Alan Dershowitz, I'm just saying this for the benefit of my listeners, so forgive me for one moment. Alan Dershowitz, lifelong liberal lawyer, voted for Hillary Clinton, voted for Joe Biden, said on my program and said to me at a public forum in Los Angeles a few months ago, he has lost every single friend. Every single friend of his life. Because he had— he defended in the court— in court Donald Trump. They don't believe that people they don't agree with deserve defense. You are in that category. What can anybody do on your behalf?
Well, you know, if we want a public defender— I had a public defender last year. I fired him the day he told told me that Roseann Boylan got what she deserved because all these public defenders are, are, are really crazy and they hate us. So I fired him that day and I was able to retain a paid lawyer, but these guys cost over $100,000. So I am trying to raise money to afford my legal costs.
So how does one— how does one donate?
Yes, sir. There's, uh, there's, uh, two, uh, well, you can go to wearegoodmen.com, click the the featured Patriots button and my GiveSendGo, my picture will be there, John Mellis. Or you can go directly to it. It is justiceforj6johnny.com. That is Johnny, J-O-N-N-Y, justiceforj6johnny.com. But I just want to point out, you said, you know, virtue is not one of the leftist values. The prosecutors try to say that I went to J6, January 6th, to cause violence. I went there for a peaceful protest, and I can prove that through videos that are on that website, wearegoodmen.com. Roseanne Boylan was killed right in front of me, and I tried to help. An hour prior to that, I was right next to Officer Fanone when he was— when he fell into the crowd. He actually walked out into the crowd on his own accord, and everyone in the crowd, including myself, was trying to protect this man and yelling and helping and being very, very, very protective and helpful to Officer Fanone. I took video of this. I was about 10 feet away. And you can watch this on wearegoodmen.com. The footage is clear. We were all trying to protect Officer Fanone. And he has been selling books saying otherwise. So I just want to point that out. I went there with peaceful intentions. To protest peacefully. I protected and I helped many people protect an officer that day. And then an hour earlier, Roseanne Boylan— or an hour later, Roseanne Boylan was being trampled and beaten by police, and I, I tried to help her as well, along with over a dozen other men.
And we have any of your J6 colleagues, friends, have any of them had a hearing?
[Speaker:DENNIS PRAGER] Some of them have gone to trial, some of them have had some hearings. They do these status hearings, so they just go in and say hi to the judge and then get scheduled again for another status hearing, kick it down the road, kick it down the road. There is something called a speedy trial, and they waive it. The public defenders will waive it, even when J6ers are saying, I don't want to waive it, their public defender will waive it. The prosecutors are always asking that the judge waive the speedy trial law or whatever. I guess they have to do a trial within a certain amount of days unless they waive this. Against all protestations, the judges waive these things. The prosecutors get what they want every single time, and we're just not—
if this is all Washington, D.C. judges—
yes, sir.
Right. Washington, D.C. is the, is the focal point of corruption in America. And the judges are like the judges in Stalin's Soviet Union. They serve the state. They don't serve justice. It's painful to say all this. Go ahead.
Yes, sir. I don't want, I don't want to be treated unfairly. I want fair treatment under the law. I want, we want, we all watched the country burn, uh, all over 600 or 1,000 riots in the summer of 2020. But there's One in particular that I want to bring your audience's attention to. The White House was stormed by Democrats in the summer of 2020. They burned St. John's Church down that night. They injured over 100 federal officers that night. And they also forced the president of the United States, Donald Trump, into a bunker that night. And the only thing that happened the next day, nobody was hunted down. Nobody was arrested. Nobody paid the consequence for that because they were Democrats. All they did, the mainstream media, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, they all laughed at President Trump and made fun of him for having to be evacuated to a bunker. They put his life at risk every single time and they laughed at him.
Yeah, all right, hold on there, John. I got to take a break. I just want to remind people, look it up, how many months left-wing protesters took over the state capitol in Madison, Wisconsin. Nothing happened. John Mellis, wearegoodmen.com. The Dennis Prager Show. Through the streets covered white with snow, happy smiles everywhere you go. It's Christmas night in Harlem. Hi everybody, I have, I believe, John Mellis's mother on the line, Donna Mellis. Donna, hello.
Yes, I'm here, and, uh, happy Hanukkah, and to everybody else, Merry Christmas. I, I'm afraid in a few years we're not going to be allowed to say that.
I understand your fear. Right now we're allowed legally, but we're not allowed socially. No, no, no pilot will wish No flight attendant will wish their, their passengers a Merry Christmas.
Um, I, I haven't stopped saying it.
Me neither. Anyway, tell me about your, uh, tell me about your son.
I'm very proud of him. I, I believe that God puts people in place to take care of certain things, and as bad as this is, I, I think God has put him there to go through this to end up doing good for other people. Uh, I'm sorry, I'm having trouble holding tears back. I haven't seen him in almost 2 years.
Oh, because the Democratic Party is sadistic. Aside from corrupt, they're cruel.
I'm very grateful for Kelly. He has done what I could not possibly do, and I appreciate that. Uh, I, I, I— sorry. The last time I saw him, the FBI had surrounded my house at 5:30 in the morning, uh, with a tactical team, uh, I'm handicapped and I was in a scooter, and my husband, um, who has since passed away, uh, they woke— Jonathan came in the bedroom and said, Mom, the FBI is here. And my house was surrounded. They had shotguns with the red target pointed at us at the door, hollering at us to come out. He went out quietly and they searched my house. I believe they were only supposed to search his room, but their excuse was they had to make sure there was nobody else in the house that could shoot them. Oh, my husband did not do well after they took Jonathan away. I watched him deteriorate every day. He would sit in his, his office and just cry, and I never saw him like that. And he died a couple of months later. They would not let Jonathan come home for his funeral.
Really? That's something. Yeah. Well, God bless you. You obviously have a lot of support, and I am among them. When you vote Democrat, this is what you get, period. The Dennis Prager Show, live from the Relief Factor Pain-Free Studio. This is the beginning of the greatest piece of music perhaps ever written, if there's such a thing as the greatest piece of music. Handel's Messiah. And it is appropriate as this is the final segment of my show prior to Christmas. Tomorrow we're all off, but you can hear my show because we're gonna have a best of, which turns out to be big hits whenever we play them. Handel's Messiah. There's nothing— the secular world has never produced music like that. I mean, Beethoven is phenomenal and he's secular, but he lived in a religious world. The secular world produces music— Sean, I want you to go to find Stockhausen and put on an excerpt. Of the music of Stockhausen. He's a very big hit in the middle of the 20th century. When you think the descent of— from Handel's Messiah to Stockhausen, you get an idea of what secularism produces. It's a dead end. Now that's a melody you walk away humming. I picked the winner, I gotta say. You, by the way, I didn't even tell him what to choose. It's not like I picked the worst. He just randomly went on the internet and we have to use this more often. This, this should— this is the musical anthem of the American University. It does sound better when the orchestra's warming up. Right. Now, we were told that this is great music. You have to understand, I follow music, I conduct orchestras, as many of you know. I'm very serious musician. I'm very serious about music. And I, I read the music world. They adored Stockhausen in his heyday in the second half of the 20th century. That was great. I can't get over what a winner. You got to keep that on file. When you think you go from Hallelujah, the Hallelujah Chorus in Handel's Messiah, to that You have an oral, A-U-R-A-L, embodiment of the decline of the West after abandoning God and the Bible. You can be an atheist and recognize this. You don't have to be a believer. This is not a statement of faith. This is a statement of fact. It's like when they banned praising teachers. You know that the prayer that they banned in 1962 The Supreme Court of the United States, which really, that's what ushered in, not Roe v. Wade. The decline of America can be dated to 1962 and the idiotic, completely society-destroying decision that you can't have prayer in school. The prayer was that God bless, that asking God's blessings on one's parents, teachers, and And I don't remember what else, but as I have said, we— America went from blessing teachers to cursing teachers in one generation, thanks to the morons on the U.S. Supreme Court who really hurt this country. Maybe, maybe fatally. We don't know yet. That's why you gotta fight. Oh my God. That's, that's a good summary. That was precious, I gotta say. You have to keep that. I could listen. There are visual expressions of Stockhausen, and I believe Jackson Pollock, which many of you have loved. That's fine. I don't hold it against you, but Don't fool yourselves that this is— that this is inspiring or great or beautiful or profound art. Man stood on a ladder and threw paint on a canvas. That people then find this to be meaningful is equivalent to believing masks work. People believe what they want to believe. So, my friends, I'm going to take whatever is on your mind. And, uh, being that this is the last hour prior to the Christmas break here, but I am on tomorrow, not live, but I am on tomorrow. I just wanted you to know. All right, Matthew Greer, South Carolina. Hello. Hey Dennis, thanks for taking my call. Uh, I had had the opportunity to meet you when you came to Greer, and I gave you a letter and I gave you a cigar, and the letter was in reference to the censorship on the internet. And I just wanted to tell you that I heard the first Mellis interview that you did, and I was so moved, distraught, whatever you want to call it, that I had to get the word out. And I apologize for this, sir, but I posted that interview on my YouTube channel and it can't— nobody sees it. The view count won't budge. I share it and share it. Others have shared it. Comments don't show up. And this is not an injustice to me. This is an injustice to those men, and I just can't believe we're having this conversation in America. Well, that's why I want people to go to his website, wearegoodmen.com. I checked it out, it comes up immediately. Don't put spaces between words if you're not familiar with the internet. wearegoodmen.com. Keep trying, my friend, you're doing a good thing. Thing. San Gabriel, California. Jeffrey, hello.
Hello, thanks for taking my call. Back to a previous hour discussing Stanford and the elimination of certain words, you mentioned yesterday that master was one of them, which made me think the rest of the day, what are they going to do with their master's program?
Yeah, I, I wondered that yesterday. I, I said, you know, are you not going to get a master's in, in some subject? I, I don't know what they're going to to do, because you can no longer say I master a subject. And yet they're keeping— look, uh, there, there are so many of these dilemmas. How come Columbus, Ohio has allowed itself to keep the name Columbus? They probably officially don't even celebrate Columbus Day in Columbus, Ohio. They probably have Indigenous Peoples Day. Why does Columbia University keep the name named after Columbus? Columbia is named after Columbus, not the country Colombia. Colombia, the country, is spelled C-O-L-O. Columbia is spelled like Columbus, C-O-L-U. They're phonies because they'd lose a fortune of money, Columbia University, if they dropped their name. But they're big supporters of dropping the holiday. Screw the country, but we want more money at Columbia. So I don't know if they'll drop a master's program. Yes, they should. They don't want to, uh, they don't want to reveal, uh, what they're really about to a lot of people. All right, let's see here. Oh, talk about Columbus, Ohio. Hello, Sandy in Columbus, Ohio. Hello. Rabbi Prager, I am your biggest fan. Thank you, and thank you for the ordination. And I love the Exodus series on Jordan Peterson. Oh, I can't wait until it takes back up in January. It's, it's been, it's been great. A friend recommended it. Wonderful. Thank you. I'll tell him. On The Daily Wire. Yep, yep. So I just wanted to clarify, uh, you said there were no gulags yet. I think this whole January 6th conversation proves that there are. If there are people for 2 years in solitary with no— uh, you're right, you're right. It seems like a gulag to me. Well, look, gulag killed tens of millions of people, so I, I, I, I'm always wary of overstating something, but it has the beginnings of it in principle. It is a state prison, just like Gulag was. But since tens of millions were killed there, I, I don't use the term yet. It's bad enough what they are doing. Solitary confinement is a torture. Murderers are treated better by the Democratic Party than dissenters. And yet liberals continue to vote Democrat. We return in a moment. I'm Dennis Prager. The Dennis Prager Show.
The glory of the Lord.
One of the spectacular parts of the greatest work perhaps ever written, Handel's Messiah, followed closely by the Goldberg Variations of Bach. Oh God, it's hard for me to have this stop. It's so uplifting. I always think when I watch the performers at a Handel's Messiah, the chorus, the soloists, and the orchestra, most of whom are probably secular individuals, are they moved by the lyrics and the music of Handel's Messiah? I don't know the answer, but I always wonder that. How do you participate in this glorious music and not be affected? Is there any secular music that is as affecting as that? You have Xenakis ready? I mean, not Xenakis, that's another one. You have, uh, Stockhausen ready? This is— this is— we were told this is important music. You have no idea how revered this composer. This is his Concerto for Sneeze and Fart. Okay, we'll leave it at that. It's a good, good title. Good title. All right, let's see what else is on your, uh, on your mind here. Uh, Spring Hill, Tennessee. Danny, hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, Dennis. Hello. I just want to tell you, you met my son Parker at AmFest, um, this past weekend, and he sent me a text and he said, Mom, guess who I'm about to meet and get my picture taken with? And I said, uh, who? And he said, somebody you listen to religiously. And I said, Dennis Prager? And he said, yes. Well, I used to throw him in my car because he wouldn't nap, and I thought, well, I can't listen to my pop music, that will keep him awake.
Rare as Dennis will put him to sleep.
I did—
I've never heard of you. I just hit 790 AM, and every day I— because you were on from 12 to 3 then— I would listen to you. And now here we come full circle, and my son is so excited to get his picture taken with you. And he was like 15 months then.
Well, I, I am— yep, I am very touched by that. God bless you. Merry Christmas. And give him a big hello from me. The number of comments I've gotten during my 40-year career broadcasting that are truly hilarious I used to be on at night and in LA before I went national during the day, and frequently people would meet me, you know, at a restaurant, in the street, whatever, and say, I just want you to know I go to sleep with you every Sunday night. That was, that was my first show, was on Sunday nights, and I, I I didn't know what to make with that, although my favorite in that regard was the woman who called me just a few years ago, said, I just want you to know, I wake up with Hugh Hewitt and I shower with you. That was on the air. That was a— I'll never forget that call. All right, let us see here. Pasadena, California. Steve, hello.
Hi Dennis.
Hi.
You know, uh, I, I just have a question. I, I want to qualify this, kind of lay a foundation for what I'm going to say. Listen, I, I have no doubt that when you speak, that you're honorable forthright. You know, you, you try to do the right thing, you try to do the best thing. I believe that. That's why I listen to you. Look, I, I've spent 34 years as a federal agent, retired, and, uh, counting military time, I spent 38 years in the feds, okay, as part of the federal criminal justice system. And yeah, I realize people think we're all a bunch of liars and—
no, nobody thinks you're all— no, no, nobody Nobody thinks that. They think that the heads are a bunch of liars. They don't think that the average agent is a liar.
But you know, I was, uh, when I retired, I was a special agent in charge, okay? And I ran an internal affairs component, but I've been involved in criminal prosecutions all over, all over the country.
All right, I hear you. So tell me, tell me what— okay, so I—
this is my deal. Yeah, in my world, if you can't prove it, it didn't happen. And, you know, Mr. Malice was on the phone. I'm not saying he wasn't telling the truth, and I'm not saying that you're not, but, you know, criminal prosecutions— or you cannot go to jail without there being a record of why you're there, okay?
Why doesn't he have a hearing?
Uh, I That's the issue.
No, no, my friend, that, that is the only issue here. The issue was not his guilt or innocence.
No, but, but this is the deal. You may be right that he didn't have a hearing, but I'm not willing to take that at face value. Okay, I— he says he didn't have a hearing. Okay, but if he's in jail— wait a minute, if he's in jail Okay, he was arrested. That's a seizure. Okay, unlawful seizures are in violation of the Sixth Amendment.
That's right. And that's what we claim has happened, and that's why we hope the Republican Congress will investigate.
No, I hope so. But how do you know? What have you done or seen that corroborates—
because he hasn't had a hearing. That's what corroborates it. That's the whole issue, my friend. And the fact that Washington juries and Washington judges are as disposed to justice as Stalin's juries and— well, they didn't have juries. Judges were. I, I feel for you because you devoted a life. And just as I totally accept you at face value, as you do me, as honorable in intent— and I have no doubt that you were an honorable person involved in, in, in law enforcement in this country— it has to be very difficult to see your profession smeared not by its opponents, by the— but by the people within it. We return. The Dennis Prager Show. There's nothing affirming about gender-affirming care, unless that is you think chemical castration, sterilization, and physical mutilation of children and young adults is a good thing. Kayleigh White of the Independent Women's Forum examines the issue in the new video from PragerU. See it at PragerU.com, where we teach what should be taught. arguably the greatest work of music ever written. Final pre-Christmas hour of my show live. Tomorrow I'm on, but not live. It's worth hearing, but I figured Handel's Messiah would be the perfect piece with which to play the bumper music. And I've been contrasting it with what was considered great by the fools who consider themselves music critics, sportswriters, music critics, that whole crowd, movie critics. They're like cookie cutter fools. Not always, not always been. I remember 50 years ago the New York Times had a music critic, Harold Schoenberg, who loved music. I don't think he thought Stockhausen was worth hearing. Got a little more of Stockhausen there? What's the name of the piece? Ensemble en contemporaine. Do you admit that my name for it was more productive. Okay, thank you, Sean. That juxtaposition of Handel and Stockhausen is the juxtaposition of religion and secular. Okie dokie, let's see what else you would like to ask about. L.A., California, Meyer, hello.
Hello, it's me.
That's clear.
Are you aware of any study? Has any of your guests— has anybody demonstrated one scientific study to demonstrate that any vaccine has ever prolonged or extended the life of anybody? And specifically with regard to polio, has any vaccine used to prevent crippling— I'll call that polio— demonstrate to reduce the number of naturally occurring cripples. So what I'm eliminating in what I'm saying is experimental— experimentation doesn't count. Natural studies, whether animal or man, demonstrating they improved survival. I don't believe there's any.
All right, so let me respond in a larger sense than than the specifics. And I admit that, that I'm not answering you specifically, but I am answering you in a broader sense. Until the last 2 years, I had considered any doubting of the efficacy of vaccines, like this staggering number given to children, any doubt about it, I, I thought was— I didn't think these people were bad. I thought they were eccentric, and that was it, and I paid no attention. I now trust Robert Kennedy Jr. more than I do the American Medical Association. That is what the, the medical profession has done to this citizen in whose family are doctors. I have zero respect for the organized medical profession. I have great respect for some individual doctors, needless to say, and doctors have saved my life. I have said that many times. So if you said to me on a lie detector, are you more likely to trust Robert Kennedy on vaccines or the AMA on vaccines? The answer is now Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy Jr., to be precise. That's a big switch. There are tens of millions like me. When I read about that, I think as a physician in Oregon, and, and his noting that they've never actually compared kids who are vaccinated with non-vaccinated and incidence of autism Why didn't they ever make that test? Wouldn't it be reassuring? On me, my sheep. I got the chills. I can't— it so affects me. Handel's Messiah. Certainly, if you are celebrating Christmas, you should learn this piece. And even if you're not, if you just love beauty and uplifting music, there's nothing like it. Just nothing like it. I have not succeeded in— well, I don't know, it's a very tough word, have I succeeded? What does success mean? But I have not succeeded in bringing more people to classical music. I fully acknowledge that. Even though I was honored, I was the— when I conducted a Haydn symphony at the Disney Concert Hall a few years ago, about 4 years ago, it was the only regional orchestra to ever sell out a concert. So I figured, I hope a lot of those of you who attended thought, wow, this is really gorgeous. I'm going to go home and listen to some. But it is a passion of mine that I would like to share. If you don't fall in love with fountain pens, I can handle it. But if you don't fall in love with classical music, it's, it's somewhat of a loss in your life. Although I fully acknowledge that not everybody is made to love this Music. Okay, let's continue here with what is on your minds on the issue of the vaccine. As raised earlier, they need to study all health outcomes over the long term, vaxxed versus unvaxxed, and that was a law, but they have, they have ignored it for 3 and a half decades. And they have not been held accountable. I have lost all faith in the medical profession and in the medical journals. I mean, if the medical— if a medical journal writes about colon cancer, I believe it. But if it writes about anything that has to do with society, and now with vaccination, you see, you can't lie to people and then expect them to believe you. You lied about the vaccine, you lied about lockdowns, and you lied about masks. You ruined tens of millions of people's lives around the world. You brought hunger to vast numbers of people. You brought unemployment around the world. You ruined American kids' lives in the millions. They are more suicidal and depressed than ever because of your goddamn Excuse me for the language. I don't know why that's bad language. God should damn the lockdowns, but I'll say G-damn if that's— if you prefer that. Uh, I'm allowed to get angry about evil, my friends. Evil was done to your kids. Evil, get it? They didn't do it in Sweden, and can't get more secular than Sweden. And I'm reading about how fewer people today attend church than ever in American history, in part because they got used to it. Because your pastor, priest, or rabbi was a sheep, that's why. And now they're paying the price. People aren't coming back. You unquestioningly obeyed secular authority. What the hell is your religion worth? If that's all you do. Okay, I'm ticked more than I am at the secular sheep at the religious sheep. If you obey secular authorities, and I'm thinking of all of you including my dear beloved friends in the LDS Church, if there was one group I really counted on to say we're not closing down, it was the Mormon Church. And you did too. Yep, that's the truth. And then they wonder, gee, why aren't we filling up the pews like we used to? What the hell do you stand for if you can't say no to Fauci? That's why people know weakness when they see it, even if they just intuit it. Nobody said you had to force anybody to come to services. I held services. Seems that nobody died, right? Yep. It's probably still available. You can even watch my Russia-shunning Yom Kippur services. It was impossible to do, uh, because I don't own a property. Churches own their own property, they could do what they want, but I'm not an official synagogue, so my services had to find a venue, and there was no venue willing to have 400 people. In 2020. In 2021, we did find a place. In fact, the wonderful church made it possible. Okay, let's go on to, uh, more of your questions or comments or whatever you have to say here. Uh, let's see. San Antonio, Texas. Gary, hello. Hey, Dennis. Yep.
I've heard you for years talk about the leftists and the liberals and the Democrats, and I'm sorry, but all my Democratic friends, they all believe anybody involved in January 6th should be jailed or shot and that the Biden syndicate shouldn't be investigated.
And there is no distinction in the last 2 days, I think should prove it from what you had yesterday about people not being invited because the Democratic or they voted for Trump.
And I'm telling you, there's, it's getting less and less of a distinction.
Yeah, I think there's truth to that. It's getting less and less. That's why.
People know weakness when they see it, even if they just intuit it.
Nobody said you had to force anybody to come to services. I held services. Seems that nobody died. Right?
Yep.
The most famous chorus probably ever written, the Hallelujah Chorus from Handel's Messiah. Only a religious, God-touched individual could write such sublime music. Dan, Bill, Al, Ramon, Joan, Jack, Rick, and Peter, I can't take your calls. So from the bottom of my heart, I hope that you have a meaningful Christmas or Hanukkah. A secular life is ultimately much emptier has, uh, by definition, far less hope. You should take religion seriously even if you are an atheist or an agnostic or not affiliated with any given religion. And for those of you whose kids won't visit you because you voted Republican, my heart truly goes out to you. The double whammy of not seeing your child or grandchildren and believing that your beloved son or daughter turned out to be a jerk is painful. But I will say this: Never let your children hold your joy of life hostage. You have a life to live. Merry Christmas, my friends. Dennis Prager here. Thanks for listening to the Daily Dennis Prager Podcast. To hear the entire 3 hours of my radio show, commercial-free every single day, become a member of Pragertopia. You'll also get access to 15 years' worth of archives, as well as the daily show prep. Subscribe at pragertopia.com.
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