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I want to talk to you today about this issue about men not telling their wives or their girlfriends of long duration— and I prefer wives to girlfriends of long duration, I'm a big advocate of marriage— to truly open up about their sexual nature.

I guess I would put myself in the category of a man who has not explained his sexual nature to his wife. I have, you know, 33, married 9 years, 3 kids. I have a good marriage and a pretty good sex life. So what would be the purpose?

Okay, it's a very good question. It's a very, very, very good question. So I took your call. Well, number one, it depends, and this transcends just the sexual nature issue. It depends on what you want out of a marriage. And I mean this non-critically. It really does. There are For those who want to be able to share everything about their lives with and have in the other person as close to a soulmate, as close to a partner in life as possible, then it is very important to share something that is so significant.

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I'm old-fashioned. I like 2 sexes. And another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a new woman.

I want a wife, not a competitor. Competitor! Competitor!

Talk about it a bit, this crying in the morning thing, this depression, you know. Let's get that fixed.

That's what men think, isn't it?

What?

Unless you've got the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this bloke in the Essex Road who could fix that, then there's no point bothering.

How do you write women so well?

I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

I love him.

I love him, and I don't care what you think.

I love him for the, for the man he wants to be, and I love him for the man that he almost is.

What do people have rows about today? Uh, money, sex, sex, money. He wants, she doesn't want. She wants, he doesn't want? Women have always been a big problem to me, Dr. Fussbend. Are you listening, Doctor? Yes, yes, yes, go on, go on. Hi everybody, this is the Male-Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show, where we talk honestly about the 2 sexes in the hope that my theory is right, that clarity Is a tremendous boon to human relations. And I take risky positions because the truth about men and women is sometimes painful for one or the other sex to hear. Indeed, often is.

Hmm.

And especially about men. So I want to play for you, uh, what took place just, uh, recently on the Hannity Show. And when I was in New York on his program, and he doesn't talk about these matters, it's all politics generally, but it came about because of some talk during intermission, and I mentioned a book that I was writing, and then he went on air, Hannity, with me and said the following. Dennis Prager's working on a book, and we were talking about this during the break. Working title, Your Husband Is Not a Pervert: An Explanation of Men and Their Sexual Nature. And I suggested you and Norton, considering this is about— go on the road together.

What is the premise of the book?

Well, I've done this on my radio show for years now, talked about male sexual nature. I put out CDs on it. Women have come over to me at lectures around the country, and this is the God's honest truth, and said, you saved my marriage. I now understand my husband. I thought he was a pervert. I thought he was a nut. I thought he was sick or whatever. Male sexual nature is so different from female sexual nature, and men are so afraid to tell their wives what it's really about because they'll think they're sick. Men shut up about it. And then when women wonder, why is my husband so quiet? One answer is that he's afraid to tell you about what he really feels and thinks in an arena of great importance.

I'm gonna stay out of topics that I know little or nothing about.

I know, I know my, my limits. Yeah.

Do you agree with this?

I am—

I'll wait for the book to come out before I comment.

All right, now that's not what you said during the break, but I will let you off the hook If you demand it, but that's not what you said during the break. All right, now that's important. That was another panelist, and she did say during the break, boy, is that true. I've known men, and these were famous men, so of course she didn't want to say it on air, and I understand that. But she knew men, and that's exactly what she thought about them. And I want to talk to you today about this issue, about men not telling their wives or their girlfriends of long duration And I prefer wives to girlfriends of long duration. I'm a big advocate of marriage. But whether married or not, men are afraid in 98.426% of cases to truly open up about their sexual nature for fear of how his beloved will react. What are you, a pervert? Are you sick? I can't believe it.

You—

I thought you were different from these other men, or whatever reaction might happen. And that is why I feel this moral obligation, if you will, to write this book. 1-800-PRAGER-776. If you are afraid to tell your wife about yourself fully in this area, call me up. If you are a wife whose husband did finally open as a result of listening to my show or whatever other reason, or getting my CDs on male sexual nature, I would like to hear from you because it is very important for others to hear how common it is for husbands to clam up on this issue. And let me tell you something, when a man is quiet about one of the most important things in his life, Then he will become quiet generally. The liberation that a man experiences in being able to open up about his sexual nature to his, to his loved one cannot be overstated, my dear listeners, men and women. But you, the woman, have to give him the green light to do so. And I acknowledge that you will very possibly be frightened, or initially, or hurt, or, or whatever other reaction, or startled, uh, or, or scared even. None of which, by the way, need be your reaction. That's the reason I feel it's so important to discuss this both on the radio and in my lectures, as well as write the book on this, because it's not scary once you understand it. It's scary when you first encounter it, perhaps, but not, but not when, when you understand it. So I, I ask you, especially men, uh, but women obviously are more than welcome to call in. If you are afraid to talk about your sexual nature with your wife, tell me. It is an extremely helpful thing for others to hear. How this affects various marriages. While you call, 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776, which is 877-243-7776, 877-243-7776. My title, Your Husband or Your Man Is Not a Pervert, is a working title. I suspect it probably won't end up the title of the book. I don't know. Well, Maybe I'll take a vote. I'm serious. I just don't know. I've never had that problem in titling a name— titling a book of mine. But I— so I mentioned to you the other day that I would welcome your suggestions for my book on explaining male sexuality, your title. And if I ever use it, I will give you some really, really big prize. You know, maybe I'll just fly to you and then, you know, come over for dinner. I assume you'll consider that a prize. If you'd rather Alan show up, I'll send Alan. That's fine. You have your choice. You can have Sean too. In fact, you know, we'll— you'll pick whoever is affiliated with the show. Anyway, I got a big reaction for suggestions. I'll just give you a few of them that cracked me up or I just thought were of interest to share with you. Here, for example, from David Soulflow in Federal Way, Washington. And by the way, put your cities on your— on your— put as much thing about yourself as you can. I'm not gonna share this with anybody, don't worry about it. And I would love to see pictures of you, you know, enclose one of those, your family. I'd like to know more about you. So anyway, I like to know your address, like, like in this case. Anyway, David Soulflow simply writes book title, Men Are Pigs.

That's it.

Men— that would be catchy. Men Are Pigs by Dennis Prager. All right, that's, that's, that's on the— that's right, that would be on the, uh, the DVD collection. That's exactly right. Uh, here's another one. Uh, this one, I— 2 of my favorites Which literally made me laugh was— this one is from Marv Logel. I don't know, Marv, you should tell me where you live. And I still crack up. Here is his suggested title for my book on male sexuality: You Want to Do What? Is that great? Is that great?

Yeah.

My wife added the word me. I think it might be even better. You wanted me to do what? That's a— Reflections on Male Sexual Desire.

That's a—

that's not a bad one. Every— right, guys? You like that? You want me to do what? Or you want to do what?

I don't know.

Me or no me. Another terrific one from Brent Rosenkrantz in Phoenix, Arizona. Dennis, consider this title for your new book: I Am Not Your Gay Friend. That's powerful. I can't use it because nobody would understand what I meant, but it's a very powerful point. It means he gets it. It means he gets it. That's exactly right. It's of course no insult to gays, not at all. It has nothing to do with that. It's about who, who the heterosexual husband is. Now here is, here is one. This is a classic example of where women and men see it so differently and how women want a much more gentle title. When I come back, it's a woman who is at the Department of Pharmacology at the University of Texas. Medical Center, and I'll give you her suggestion. Take your calls as well on men hiding their natures. You're listening to the Male-Female Hour on The Dennis Prager Show.

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Alrighty everybody, the male-female hour. Honesty about the 2 sexes. And especially about men, because that's where the problems generally arise on the— in the sexual world, in understanding men and accepting their nature. I don't say accepting all behavior, obviously, but accepting their nature. And I was talking to you about, uh, because the— because of the mention on the Hannity Show of my, my book on male sexual nature that I'm writing. And I'm looking for a title. So we had terrific titles. I gave you 3 that came from men. Here's one from a woman, Claire Matcha, University of Texas. And she says, love the show, listen every day. A title for your book: Falling in Love with Male Sexuality: A Manual for Women and the Man in Her Life. Isn't that sweet? 7 people would buy it. But it is so sweet. Claire, I love you for it. I really do. But this is, you see, this is classic. The guys write in, men are pigs. You want to do that? And a woman writes in, falling in love with male sexuality.

Aw.

That's so sweet. I love it. All right, let— now here is the heavy-duty stuff now. I asked you to call in. Because this is the reason for the book. I only write what I think needs to be written. There are, I don't know, what, 100,000 books published a year? I don't know how many. 10,000? How many books are published? It's some ridiculously large number. I've written 4 books. They're all in print. They have never for a day gone out of print. When I write a book, I want it to be important. Okay? It's not self-serving. This is the way I address writing a book. There's been plenty written on male-female differences, but nothing truly honest to explain in real-life terms male sexuality. And I know how much tension it causes between 2 people who even love each other. So here I'm asked for people to call in, especially men, but not only men, women who can comment on this as well, where there has been a fear on the part of the husband to tell his wife about what he— his sexual nature is. We'll begin with a, uh, and I specifically note this because this is not older or younger.

This is—

this goes from the age of 19 to 99. So here's a 39-year-old, Rick, in Los Angeles. Hi, Rick, thank you for calling. This is Dennis Prager.

Hi, Dennis. It's an honor to speak with you, and even if I'd never won a book title, it would be a pleasure to have dinner with you.

Oh, that's so sweet. Thank you.

I'm 39, just for a background. Been married 9 years, have 4 kids in ages 16 to 7, and I am deathly afraid to mention anything to my hot-blooded Cuban wife. I'll tell you, the few times I've mentioned anything as far as sexuality things, you know, because men are very visual, as far as, you know, why don't you come out, you know, with just my coat jacket on or a raincoat on for visual stimulation. My wife thinks, oh, all men are pigs, how perverted, I don't need to do that. So in those few instances, I just learned to keep my mouth shut. I don't say anything. It's just a shame because she just feels that, you know, if you mention anything like your one person who wrote in that men are pigs, it's like men are just completely different. It doesn't mean that we're necessarily pigs. I'm a good father, I'm a good provider, I love all my kids, I love my wife, but— Men are just different.

Rick, I can't thank you enough for your openness and your call. Uh, I, I purposely said nothing, didn't interrupt. I just wanted you all to hear that. I will actually give a publisher a copy of Rick's, uh, you know, an electronic copy of what Rick just said. I want to keep this, okay? Give me an MP3 file of Rick's statement. Thanks, Sean. This is so sad to me. It is so— I'll tell you why it's so sad. There are so many reasons. Life is filled with 2 types of sadnesses, even tragedies: gratuitous and non-gratuitous. Gratuitous means pointless. There is pointless sadness, and there is— or sadness for no reason. Gratuitous means for no reason. This is sadness for no good reason. See, if God forbid your child gets cancer, that is not gratuitous suffering. That happens. There is a reason people get cancer. But where we create pointless, meaningless sadness, as in the case of male sexuality— and by the way, let me just say that this may be one of those hours of the Male/Female Show that are not for very young kids, okay? Just let me warn parents. It's your call, obviously, and it should always be your call, but I need to say that because there will be— I don't get too explicit, obviously. It's radio. Uh, for the, for, for everybody. But nevertheless, what, what he just said, come out, come to me with a raincoat. I mean, in the bedroom, right?

That's it.

Just a raincoat. And she thinks, what is, what is he? What is he, uh, a pig? But why is he a pig? What is, what is in, what is inherently bad about that? If you love your man and that excites him, what's wrong with it? What could possibly be wrong with it? Why is your desire for flowers noble and his desire for a raincoat ignoble? Why? Because you declared it so. That's why. Neither is inherently more wonderful or beautiful than the other. That he is still excited by his wife after 4 kids is one of the great blessings of both of your lives. You should revel in the fact that he wants you to do that, not be afraid of it. All right, this is going to sound like an ad, and so be it, but I know, I know how much it has helped people. I have 4 CDs on male sexuality. I, I I would love his wife to hear them because sometimes people have to hear things from a stranger. Not sometimes, often they have to hear things from a stranger, not a parent, not a spouse. And then they register. You call 800-225-8584, 800-225-8584, or go to DennisPrager.com. My 4 CDs on male sexuality should— You should get them. Your teenage daughter needs to hear it too, so she'll know the effect of her clothing on men in real honest-to-goodness English. But that was, that was so important, so important, that call. Okay, let's go to— let me— I want to know, I want more of that. Let's see. Oh, here's a good one from the woman's standpoint. Beth in Littleton, Colorado. Thank you for calling. It's Dennis. Hi. Hi, Dennis.

Hi, Mr. Prager. So good to talk to you. I met you in Denver a couple months ago in January.

Wonderful.

And, you know, I want to hit on your point that you have to hear it from a stranger sometimes. My husband Cliff and I have been married for 21 years now, and it's always been a point of tension. At first I thought it was age, but as we went through the years, his desires continued, and at times I just would get really irritated with him, especially if it was just after having a child or not feeling well. And I thought, how could you, how could you be like this? And, um, he started out with having me listen to the Happiness Hour.

Okay, stay, stay, stay on. I, I want to hear the rest. Back in a moment.

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Back in his fight, we fight, we break up, we kiss, we make up.

All right, I didn't choose this, folks. I just want you to know I claim no responsibility other than the fact that it's airing on my show, which is a hell of a lot of responsibility now that I think of it. Okay guys, we can drop that. Thank you for the test, appreciate it a lot. All right, anyway, thank God I didn't understand half the lyrics. That's all I can say. I know, blame Alan. I know, you see, everybody's pointing fingers here. We're— it's a gutsy crowd here. I immediately assume no responsibility. Then Sean points to Alan, and Alan has this Cheshire Cat smile on, and he's blaming Susie now. He says his wife did it. Susie's blaming the cat. Oh, he wants to speak now. All right, put him on.

This is a—

this is going to be a major hit song.

Oh, really?

And it's a cover of a big American hit song by a Ukrainian group.

group.

But it actually does apply to the Male Female Hour because it's about male perceptions of females.

Well, it's actually about a female perception of a male. Everybody's—

I got it backwards, but I knew there was a perception there. Okay.

Fine.

All right. All right. We'll have a honey update.

Well, we do have a honey update.

No, no, that's good. But later. Later. Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you. All right. This is the Male Female Hour. And I'm asking, this is super, super serious, actually. The, the, the reason for— almost the reason for this hour and the reason for so many of my lectures and why I'm going to write this book, or I'm writing this book on male sexuality, is because men don't tell their wives about who they are in this realm. Now, this is really important. We're back to Beth. Beth, thanks for holding on. Beth in Colorado. Now, you've been married 20— how many years?

21 years.

And, uh, your husband did want you to know more about him?

Absolutely. And he tried several times. I have to give him a lot of credit because he actually opened up several times over the years trying to explain this to me, and I would just get really irritated with him.

Go on.

And tell him that it was— all it was about was quantity to him, and get very frustrated. And I couldn't connect the dots because this was a man who was very loving and gave up his career to be a stay-at-home dad and support my goals, and it just— I couldn't connect it all. And then we started listening to the Happiness Hour, and so you became a credible resource to me. And one night he said to me, Beth, why don't you take this when you go work out at the gym and listen to this Male-Female Hour? I really just want you to listen to it. And to get to listen to it alone and digest it, I, I was overwhelmed by it, quite frankly, to understand the needs that he had had over the 20-some years that off and on I certainly didn't fulfill, and looked at it a different way. And I went home that night and I— the first thing I could say to him was, I'm so sorry, I didn't get it. I had all these other thoughts in my head and stereotypes and I just didn't get it. And the relationship— we've had a strong marriage built through hard and good times, and as we go forward into these next years, it's just even better than it could have been. And even when there's nights where I'm like, you know, I know this is what you need and I'm just so tired or whatever, the fact that I can acknowledge that to him and make him know that I understand it goes a tremendous way for him now.

I swear, if you were in my presence, I would just hug you very, very warmly. I mean it. You have touched me deeply.

Well, you helped change our marriage, because like I said, we've been committed to our marriage from the beginning. There were things we didn't understand around this sexuality issue. You know, he teases me, I was raised Catholic, still Catholic and prudent, and, you know, so it was a hard subject for him to approach with me.

Of course.

And to get it from the third party that night, I really was— I had nothing else to say that night to him except I was sorry.

Oh, God. God bless you. I am overwhelmed by that call. I'm chilled.

Oh.

And I'm so happy I could play that role. I mean, I've always believed the best we can do in the sojourn we have on this short trip on this planet is to do good. So I did, I did good for that couple. But, uh, there is a line that she used. Was it Beth? There's a line that she used, the needs I didn't fulfill. I wrote that down. It's almost, it's almost a good title. But that's, uh, because he could say the same thing. I, the needs I had that weren't fulfilled. Yep. All right, we continue on the male-female hour on The Dennis Prager Show.

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Hi everybody, Dennis Prager here, the Male/Female Hour. Still, still reacting to that powerful call from Beth. And I just commend to you those, those CDs.

I—

they changed— they have, well, obviously a lot of marriages. You have to hear from a third party, one that's credible, obviously one that you deem credible. I have no agenda other than to help men and women get to get along better.

That's right.

That's my only agenda. There is no other. There can't be any other. What else could my agenda be? And they're available at 800-225-8584, 800-225-8584, or dennisprager.com on male sexuality. Men are afraid to open up to their wives because it's so frightening or scary and so utterly different from female sexual nature. By the way, the proof of this, for those of you who are still not on board, who still think, oh no, both have the same nature, because you went to graduate school and you've been taught the opposite of reality, just remember that the proof of all of this is to be found among homosexual men. Gay men and straight men have identical sexual natures. Identical. The only thing that differs is the object of their desire, the sex of the opposite— the sex of their object of desire. That is the only difference. And everything that turns on a gay man turns on a straight man. So it's impossible that it is not nature. It is impossible that it was socialized into men to see women as sex objects or to want variety or to be visually stimulated at the sight of just a part of a body. That's the way we're made. Okay, let's go to Los Angeles and Clayton. Clayton, Dennis Prager, thank you for calling.

Hi, Dennis. As a subtitle for the Men Are Pigs book, how about Learning to Love Bacon?

That's cute. That's cute. I love these suggestions. Go ahead.

I guess I would put myself in the category of a man who has not explained his sexual nature to his wife. I have, you know, 33, married 9 years, 3 kids. I have a good marriage. and a pretty good sex life. So what would be the purpose?

Okay, it's a very good question. It's a very, very, very good question, so I took your call. Well, number one, it depends, and this transcends just the sexual nature issue. It depends on what you want out of a marriage. And I mean this non-critically, it really does. There are— for those who want to be able to share everything about their lives with and have in the other person as close to a soulmate, as close to a partner in life as possible, Then it is very important to share something that is so significant. In fact, it's important, I think, to share things that are even not significant. I think the more— I think this is true for male-male friendship, not just for marriage. The more we open up to friends, and the ultimate friend should be one's spouse, the closer we get. So if you hide what is in fact, Clayton, as a man to man, a significant part of us, Then it's a distancing element. It just is. It, it, I mean, by definition, if it were about money or if it were about any other non-sexual subject, I would say the same thing.

Don't you think maybe there's a part of that, there's many men believe that it should not be such a significant aspect of their life, that they should fight their nature more?

Well, we fight our nature by being monogamous. But why should you fight your nature by denying it exists? There's a big difference between controlling it And, and denying it. By not talking about it, you're denying it. I'm all for controlling it. I'm a religious person. I'm a believer in monogamy. I'm a believer in, in marriage and everything. But, but controlling is one thing, and, and, and not talking about it is quite another. And over time— you're only 33— over time, it might wear on you. And God forbid, you might meet a woman to whom you can open up. And, and that will be a real test of your marriage, maybe even a marriage crusher. So that's— those are my handful of my reasons. I'm all for controlling, absolutely. But what— I mean, for men, men are controlled by being monogamous. That's, that's the big control. Okay, let's go to— thank you, Clayton. Dallas, Texas.

Rob.

Hi, Rob. Hello, Rob? All right, Rob is not there. Okay, and let's go to Sarah in San Diego, California. Hello, Sarah, Dennis Prager.

Hi, hi, Dennis. Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment that in my marriage it's the complete opposite. My husband doesn't Desire to have as much sex as I do. And if I would like to experiment or something like that, he gets really freaked out. And—

Was this always the case, Sarah, since the beginning?

Yes. And he looks at me as—

All right, let me ask you something. Did you do anything— I don't even mean the whole way, as they say— but did you do anything sexual prior to marrying with him?

Um, very little.

Okay, so you were taken by surprise?

Yeah. If I would have known this before I married him, I would have never married him because I've spent 5 years with him with maybe having sex 25 times in 5 years, and that was not very pleasing.

Why did you marry him then?

Well, because I thought we were in love, and then the sex has really gone— it's been horrible. The sex has been—

Right. Well, he—

I mean, I'm even thinking about— it's just, you know, we were going to get a divorce because there's no sex life.

Well, look, my heart goes out to you, Sarah. My heart goes out to you. Life is very complex. Here is a good example of where— I'm talking adults here, not talking teenagers or anything like that. I think teenage sex is a very, very big problem. And I actually believe that ideally intercourse is marital. But I also believe that it is very much playing with fire not to know the sexual nature of the person you are going to marry. And because you end up in the— in very possibly, not, not, not inevitably, but very possibly in the terrible, sad strait that Sarah finds herself. I don't know what else to say. You're listening to The Dennis Prager Show, the Male-Female Hour.

Hello, Dennis. Just wanted to send lots of love and prayers for you I'm praying for you and your strength for recovery, uh, for, uh, your whole family and yourself. Miss you so very much.

Thank you. Bye-bye. Hello, Dennis.

My name is Mary. I'm calling from Ocala, Florida. Just wanted you to know that I've been praying for you, praying that you're able to, um, come back and share your wisdom with us.

And I want you to know that I really miss your wisdom, and I pray for you all the time, and hoping that you're getting better every day.

God bless you.

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I say hi.

And men shutting down because they are afraid to open up about their sexual natures to their wives is the topic here. And I think we did get Rob in Dallas. Hello, Rob in Dallas. Dennis Prager.

Yes, hello, Dennis. Um, come out with the book as fast as possible. Um, I, I know you're pressed for time, so I'll just tell you this. I've been married 20 years, love my wife, got 4 kids. Um, but you know, for the last 10 years, it's been a very difficult subject. And it— when, when things have happened, it's just been, oh, okay, well, I guess I'll do my wifely duty. Well, that's not very romantic. And then if— when I have tried to bring up the subject, he just looks at me and says, you're just silly. And that's pretty crushing to a male ego. And I'm at the point where basically I've just shut down. And, um, I'm sad. And what I, I feel— I've, I've just transferred to a roommate's status. And, um, it's, it's a very sad existence. I, I enjoy kids, but I don't know what'll happen once kids are gone. I really don't.

Well, Rob, thank you. You spoke on behalf of millions. And men opening up is not common on, uh, in general, and certainly not on radio. So I appreciate You, you men who do. Women complain often, and rightly so, that their, their men just, you know, they're— they've just clammed up. And, and very often this is the reason. It's a big part of who we are. No matter how deep and kind and religious your husband is, this is still a big part of who he is as a man. He's not just kind. He's not just a husband. He's not just a religious man, if he is a religious man. He's not just a lawyer or, or a contractor or a construction person or, or a truck driver or a doctor. He's also a man. That's true. And in that sense, I remember when I met The mud men of New Guinea, and I realized I had more in common with them than than than a woman than I did in in some ways I had more in common with them than I did with a with a woman in America because we were men. All right, I've made my contribution, and I will continue hopefully. Call 800-225-8584, 800-225-8584. Call 1-800-828-8584 for my CDs on male sexual nature, and/or go to DennisPrager.com and send me suggestions for the titles of the book. Don't go away.

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I have followed my entire life the question of, does science negate God? I have always been deeply, deeply interested in the questions and the challenges regarding God's existence. And as a result, I was always aware of the atheist Antony Flew of Oxford and then of York University in Canada. And he really was the guru, if you will, of philosophical atheism. And now he has announced, to his enormous credit, because he said, look, I follow Socrates and I go where the evidence leads me. evidence leads. He did not have, as I believe many atheists do, he did not have an emotional commitment to atheism. He had an intellectual commitment. And when the intellectual barriers seemed to have dissipated, Antony Flew, Professor Flew, decided that there is a God. There is this supreme being who created, who designed the universe. And he cited 2 thinkers who provided the scientific basis to have him affirm that there is a God. One is a Catholic, Roy Abraham Varghese, and his book, among others, The Wonder of the World: A Journey from Modern Science to the Mind of God. And the work of my guest now, the other, the other person who was apparently influenced— not apparently, who has explicitly influenced one of the great atheist thinkers of our time to believing in God, and that is Gerald Schroeder. And let me tell you a little about Dr. Schroeder. He is the author of Genesis and the Big Bang, The Science of God, and The Hidden Face of God. He earned his PhD at MIT before moving to laboratories at the Weizmann Institute, the Hebrew University, and the Volcani Research Institute in Israel. And he lives in Jerusalem with his family. And Dr. Schroeder is my guest now. And thank you for taking the time to be with me.

No, thanks for having me, Dennis. I'm delighted to be on your show.

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