Smoke and Mirrors

Mark Davis hosts two weeks before the 2022 midterms, urging listeners to vote in person and warning against mail-in ballots. He defends free speech after the Alex Jones case, opposes vaccine mandates while supporting vaccines, and frames the election as a battle for constitutional freedoms and against what he calls wokeness.
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It is Tuesday, October 25th, 2022. Mark Davis in for Dennis Prager. It is always a joy to be here. The always present challenge is what will we talk about? What are we going to do? What are the crickets and tumbleweeds in the topical environment going to yield? There is no shortage of stuff, and it's always great to be here. Mark Davis from 660 AM The Answer in Dallas-Fort Worth, where part of my gig in the 10-plus years that I've been here in DFW doing the Salem morning show, after 18 years down the dial here in DFW and a few more years in other places, the joy of having a part of my professional life given the chance to do Prager and Hugh Hewitt and various other shows on the, on the Salem Radio Network. Deeply, deeply appreciative. And so we've got a lot we're going to talk about today. I'm gonna give you the phone number, tell you some places I want to go, topically speaking. You then can call the show and tell me some places you want to go. This is quite the collaborative effort. You know the phone number: 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Follow things on the show, all things Prager, at DennisPrager.com, PragerU.com. Keep track of me at Mark Davis on Twitter, @MarkDavis. And, and there we go. So all kinds of ways for us to be in touch with each other. But for the traditional talk show methodology of you calling me to say things on the show, that is 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776. So I look forward to hearing from you. Suzette taking your calls, Rick on the video, Sean on the audio, everybody doing what they need to do. A word, if I can, just for a couple of minutes on what today is and how particularly blessed I feel. It is— it's uniquely fitting for me to have a two-talk-show day today. As I always say, there's no better show prep for doing The Prager Show than doing my own entire show earlier this morning. And boy, I did. And boy, we talked about a bunch. So I very much know a lot of the things that are on the public's mind. DeSantis versus Crist last night, the whole notion of how How is, how's this Dr. Oz, John Fetterman thing going to go tonight? They're on a debate stage. Oh, Lordy, I'm just so uncomfortable. We'll sort of talk about that. My main discomforts are over the wreckage of what used to be my country or what used to look like it in terms of a vibrant economy, in terms of borders that existed, in terms of a culture that at least cleaved to some basics like how many genders we have, things like that. And all that is just shot to hell, if you'll excuse me. And we're trying— we are trying in the election that is 2 weeks from today. 2 weeks from today, we're not just making a governmental statement, we're making, I believe, a societal statement that says enough. Not just enough to Democrat policies, not just enough to the bad ways in which they govern, But we're also saying enough to the cultural sludge, the extremism that is spread across so many corners of society by the left. And I think this is a reckoning. I think this election is an opportunity to stand up to all of that. So we're going to talk about all those things today. But it's particularly fitting for me to have two glorious shows to do today. Well, the first one was glorious. We'll see about this one. I'll leave that up to you. Because here's where I am now. Here's where I get to do shows now, here in Dallas-Fort Worth, working for the Salem Media Group, and every once in a while doing national shows like Dennis Prager. What a path it has been. Been pretty remarkable. And it's been 40 years in the making. 40 years. Cue the crowd. Thank you, Sean. Thank you very much. 40 years ago today, October 25th, 1982, I sat down in a studio at 6869 Lenox Avenue on the west side of Jacksonville. So all you WBOB listeners at the 600 frequency, a special shout out to you and the Prager audience. But at that time, the 600 frequency was WOKV, Jacksonville call letters that have since traveled to other stations. But on this particular day, October 25th of '82, what the station had done, as happened, my dad always told me, as your dad and/or mom and/or, you know, should tell you, you will be the beneficiary of being in the right place at the right time. Luck will play an important part in any path that you pursue, but you've gotta make your own luck. You've got to, be in a position to have good fortune smile on you. And you do that with a good work ethic. You do that by just having good habits and, you know, diligence and faith and just all the things that we're supposed to do as people that can help you make your own luck. So after graduating from the University of Maryland, doing a couple of years of reporting and newscasting in Charleston, West Virginia, after 2 years in West Virginia, you go looking for somewhere flat and warm. And for me, that was Jacksonville. And I come in and I'm doing newscasts and doing reporting. At WOKV in Jacksonville. And then the gentleman who hired me, that news director, leaves, and they came to me and said, hey, do you want to be news director? I said, okay, sure. And so I'm running a 5, 6 person news department and doing the budgets and all that stuff that I had no interest in whatsoever. But I loved the news, covering the news, writing the news, reporting the news, anchoring the news. And that's what my journalism degree was about. And that's what I thought I was going to do, you know, hey, forever. Then another interesting twist there in Duval County, Florida.
They—
we had an AM/FM combo. The FM was playing, you know, adult contemporary hits and doing just fine. The AM was playing music and dying on the vine because, hey, wasn't everyone on the AM dial that was still playing music? I mean, please, who does that? And so they changed the format slowly, grudgingly, and with no real budget to do so. So they came to me and said, look, we're going to sign on to this thing. Called the ABC Talk Radio Network. Now here's where the Prager base of listeners in Los Angeles— these are names that are going to resonate. California folks, listen up, because the ABC Talk Radio Network was a full schedule of folks mostly from KABC in LA and KGO in San Francisco. Owen Spann, Dr. Susan Forward, Michael Jackson— not the hee-hee Michael Jackson, the British Michael Jackson. Hello, I'm Michael Jackson, and joining us now is Henry Kissinger. This wonderful mannered British gentleman, just a wonderful interviewer and a wonderful host. Then Dr. Tony Grant with more personal advice. And it was just a big day of satellite shows with me doing the morning show. And they came to me and they said, look, do you want to do a talk show? You know, for no additional money. I said, I'm your man, I'm your guy. How can I, how can I refuse? And I'm guessing those early shows— well, no, I have taped evidence. Those early shows, oh no, no, no. Let's just say, thank goodness they got better. A little better, I think, and I hope. Couple years in Jacksonville, 5 years in Memphis, got to go to Tampa and St. Petersburg, uh, got fired there after 12 weeks when they changed format and fired everybody. God closes some doors that others may open. So there in 1990, with no gig, I was suddenly available to put in a pitch to a station I grew up listening to, WRC in Washington, and they had a new program director, a gentleman named Tyler Cox, who hired me, took the flyer on me. And so I got to go back to the town where I grew up. I was a native Texan in San Antonio due to the Air Force, but I grew up in the suburbs of D.C. because Dad was then stationed at the Pentagon. So I grew up in D.C. due to the Air Force, thank you very much, and loved my time in Washington. After a couple years in D.C., the guy who hired me leaves there and comes here. DFW, to a station down the dial from my current employer here at 660 AM, The Answer. So I was there, and I was there for 18 years, and it was awesome. Then God closes doors that others may open, and we had a contract impasse. And we go back to my dad's advice: never leave one job, never leave a job, never leave a job unless you got that next job stored right there in your pocket, ready to go. Well, radio is a little different. You gotta sign up for like 3 fresh years, and it's not like you can make your decision day in and day out. So the economy had crashed. 2008 was hell on everybody. All media— radio, TV, newspapers— were all suffering horribly. And so the stations around the country were all saying, hey, air talent, you're gonna make about half of what you made last year, take it or leave it. And I left it. I said, well, let me put this in God's hands. Talk to my wonderful wife about what we might do. I might self-syndicate or try to become a radio entrepreneur, or, or what nobody wanted to do, leave town. And the phone rings and it's Salem, and I'm the morning guy at 6:60 AM, the answer. And darned if I don't get to do cool things like this every once in a while. A 40-year path of talk shows that leads me here to you today. I am forever grateful. Okay, Mark. Shut up and take some calls. We got a lot going on. Let's do, let's do. Telephone number is 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. How you feeling? What you thinking? Very broad, 30,000-foot level stuff. But I want to go straight into some of the races. DeSantis, the Florida situation, the Pennsylvania situation, the Arizona situation. Are there folks out there in Arizona who are going to vote for Kari Lake and then turn around, vote for Mark Kelly? I need you for a moment, please. Mark Davison for Dennis, and we will be right back.
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That's where you can see us, SalemNewsChannel.com. There you're listening wherever you may be, listening on via the app, listening via your local station. We are enormously grateful. I'm Mark Davis, always grateful to be here for Dennis Prager. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis, and call the show at 1-800-PRAGER-776 where people are already doing that. We're going to head to those calls in just a second. Tonight, Fetterman versus Dr. Oz. I said this on my morning show, and I mean this greatly. I want Fetterman to do well tonight in terms of processing the English language and speaking it. This is not the way I want to win. I don't want Dr. Oz to win because Fetterman is simply absolutely unable to function in the English language because of his stroke recovery. I pray for his health and for his continued success in that recovery. I like our guys to win because our ideas are better, our candidates are better because their ideas are ruinous, etc., etc., etc. All of which is true with Fetterman. But I'll tell you one thing, this could— I don't want to say backfire, but there could be— he could score enormous empathy points by struggling through this debate with whatever laptop screen he's going to be looking at to know what anybody is saying. You can't have that in the Senate. You just Can't. And this is not ableism, and it's not attacking a disabled guy. Please, I gotta tell you, there are deaf people, stone deaf people who have done fine in public office because it's all baked in. They got to do sign language, their various things. Thank God for the cochlear implant. Some of them can hear now. But this is brand new to Fetterman. It's all new, and it all has to do with actually being able to even remotely understand what people are saying. On the fly, in a hallway, in a news conference. This is not sustainable as it is now. So we'll see how this all plays out on a debate stage tonight. I am not looking forward to it. But so, well, I don't know. Your thoughts are welcome. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Let us head to some of these wonderful calls. We are in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Let me take us where we're supposed to go on there. And that is you, Eugene. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. How you doing, sir?
Hey, I'm good, Mark. How are you today?
Doing great. Thank you.
By the way, that was very nice what you just said about Fetterman. I agree with you. Unfortunately, we're probably in the 1% within our party that feels that way. But I do agree with what you just said.
I don't know. Well, thanks. I do too.
With that said, I wanted to run something past you that a left-leaning friend of mine told me. I hadn't heard this, but I don't know. That is that a number of people from President Trump's inner circle testified under oath that he knew that Biden won the election. And during the insurrection, he sat around and watched TV for 3 hours. Have you heard anything about that?
Well, sure. I mean, I've been paying attention to that stupid January 6th committee and all of these obsessions about the nuts and bolts of that day. Let me address both of those. On the first, as well. Hi.
Hi.
Hey, here's a crazy idea. You brought stuff up. I'll address what you brought up, and then you address what I then say. It's an awesome system. I've used it for 40 years. So sit tight, 60 seconds, be right back with you. So in terms of what Trump thought about the election, I think he might have known in his heart of hearts that the overturning of the result, however flawed he viewed it to be, was probably not going to happen, and that he would probably have to endure, as we all have, a Biden presidency. Publicly, his view was, we're going to win this, we're going to prevail, we're going to do this, we're going to challenge it in court, we're going to see how it goes. In his heart of hearts, did he know that was probably futile? Maybe. I don't know. I'm not a mind reader. As far as what he did for the hours of the January 6th rioting, and it was rioting, count me among those who wish he had come out earlier to say, hey, you're not doing me any favors here, you're not doing the country any favors here, go home. That would have been lovely. Would it have worked? I don't know. But I confess that I don't particularly care about that that much in the aftermath. It was underway. It was terrible. The people who rioted should be prosecuted promptly. That's not happening. The 75 million who voted for him or the other thousands who came to the Capitol that day because they were unsatisfied with the accuracy of the result, they should not be smeared by the acts of the rioters. And so now here we all are. Back to you.
Yeah, I don't even know what to say. I'm just shocked at these allegations.
I mean, I mean, what is so incredibly— what is so incredibly shocking? What is it that just makes you stop down in a deep funk as a result of anything that we've just talked about? What is it that's so huge?
Well, in my— I'm 53, and in my lifetime, I never thought we'd have an insurrection in this country, and I never thought there'd be so many stupid, naive, and dumb people to believe the BS that this clown puts out every day.
Well, but that's just you. But that's, well, that's just you hating millions of people. So if you can wear that all day, knock yourself out. There's a spectrum of people, and Lord knows we saw some of them with all kinds of voting machine issues, and we're gonna release the Kraken, and that whole Sidney Powell, Lin Wood thing that didn't work out so well. And yet there are still millions of people who look at the rules that were changed unconstitutionally in several states on the fly. And looked at various votes that were counted that simply shouldn't have been. It's not fraud in the usual traditional sense. No courtroom was gonna find that. No court challenge was gonna be successful except the one that originated in my state where our attorney general, Ken Paxton, went to the Supreme Court and said, look, rules were changed on the fly. That's unconstitutional. Supreme Court punted. That was the challenge that might have meant something. It didn't. Here we are. So, you know, get over yourself and let's move on.
So who do you think won the 2020 election?
I have no idea.
You have no idea?
I have absolutely no idea.
Even— and that's not good enough for me. Even though they went to court 60 times. Did you—
I'm sorry, maybe the connection is bad and maybe you didn't hear what I actually just said like 60 seconds ago. There was never going to be a courtroom that said we bang the gavel and definitively find that Trump did in fact win Pennsylvania by 312 votes. That was never going to happen. I didn't speak well of those court challenges, and I caught all kinds of holy you-know-what for it. The problem was that rules were changed in various states that shouldn't have been changed. Votes were tabulated that should not have been tabulated. How many? I don't know. We'll never know. And that's not good enough. So Biden's president, I'm over it. And now we're just looking to dig the country out of it.
Well, I guess that's a way to put lipstick on the pig, but—
No, that's the way to accurately tell you how I feel, and if you feel differently, that's okay. That's why we have phone lines. It's all right.
I mean, I can't believe that this guy's out there lying every day like he is.
For crying out loud, get your panties out of a wad and just understand what other people believe. There are people out there who are not satisfied with the election result. There are people out there who don't agree with you. That the election was as pure as the driven snow, that everything was perfect. And this is part of what the media culture has wanted to do. If you have the slightest doubt, the slightest principled doubt, which I've just given voice to, I just made myself an election denier, which is meant to be of a type with Holocaust denier. So there's a reason for that. Mark Davison for Dennis, and we will continue. The Dennis Prager Show.
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Wow, no pressure, Dennis. Thank you. I didn't expect that. The hospitality is always so great around here. Boy, the actual prerecorded drop from the man himself. Golly, that's, that's high cotton. I love it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. 1-800-PRAGER-776. That is the phone number. Um, let's hop back to some more calls. I got all kinds of things, you know, front-loaded in my brain for things I want to cover with T-minus 2 weeks to go before the election. This might be the last time I get to fill in before the election itself. Next time I'm here, maybe we're talking about a 52, dare I dream, 53 Senate seat majority there in the upper house, in the upper part of Congress, and we're certainly going to win back the House of Representatives. We've got to look at Mitch McConnell as Senate majority leader. Somebody called me on the local show this morning and said, is it a good news, bad news thing? Where the good news is we won the Senate back, But the bad news is we got Mitch. I think Mitch McConnell is overpraised and over-criticized. I will always thank him for holding open that seat, the Supreme Court seat, so that thank God Merrick Garland is not sullying the Supreme Court. And we had a chance to have an election and see who gets to pick that seat. It was Trump, thank God again, who gave us 3 constitutionalist Supreme Court justices. The country is better off as a result. In other ways, Mitch seems to be a creature of the establishment. He's going to have to be a Senate majority leader looking at brand new faces like, like, you know, Blake Masters, Herschel Walker, uh, you know, J.D. Vance. Uh, that could be fun. And I think if, if the usual characteristic of Mitch that is most concrete is that Mitch is going to do what's good for Mitch, that, which is, by the way, is true of most politicians, um, especially in leadership positions, that maybe that'll wind up being a good thing because he'll see the way the field is striped and that there is a certain— I don't want to call— you want to call it Trumpian flavor, MAGA flavor, let's call it a bold conservative flavor among some of the new arrivals, so that it would, uh, it would do well for him to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Alrighty, let us roll to Santa Cruz, California. Buster, Mark Davidson for Dennis Prager. How are you?
Hey, good, Mark. You're sounding good out there. Uh, thank you. Sounds like you— I think you had some good coffee.
Yeah, I have indeed. Always that second talk show of the day, I hit my energy stride.
Nice. You know, I like a comment on Mitch, but the main, uh, thing I wanted to talk to you about is I like your opinion, you know, because I had to wake up to another mass shooting. I'm kind of like, really put me on edge, and I, and I kept thinking We need some kind of deterrent. Uh, I think you remember the electric chair, how scary that, that darn thing looked. Or, you know, something similar as a deterrent. Not necessarily use it. Maybe— what do you think?
If you're, if you're going to have it, why not? I, I saw the Florida electric chair in use in 1984. I think I've regaled people with that story here. I may do it again if you want me to. But the point being I went in to witness an execution in Florida, and I was kind of ambivalent. I was 26, I was ambivalent about the death penalty. Coming out, I was absolutely a steadfast supporter because I saw the peace and the closure of the families of the victims of the guy that I'd just seen put to death. Made me a death penalty advocate, which I remain to this day. Execution falling out of favor. I think death penalty is losing support by the day. It is scriptural, it is symmetrical, it is just, it is right. Problem is, in the human hands in which it falls, we've had some screw-ups. We've had some executions that didn't go real well, and, uh, and, and we, we've had some people, uh, plucked off of death row because it turns out they were innocent. We always hate that. And maybe we ought to move for the, the standard for executions. We convict people beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe for execution it ought to be beyond the shadow of a doubt, because I don't want to do away with the death penalty. How about you?
Yeah, no, no, I definitely— something's got to be done. These, uh, maniacs got to get, get in their head, you know. They're going to play, there's going to be hell to pay.
Yeah, uh, it's about— I vote— I've always wondered how much of a— is it a deterrent? It is a proper consequence. It is a just result. Uh, the reason we have a death penalty is because human life is innocent. Human life is sacred. Innocent human life is sacred. So much so that if you take one, we're gonna take yours. That's the logic of the death penalty. Is it a deterrent? I don't know. I don't care. I, I support it anyway. The reason I wonder whether it may not be is, does everybody expect to get caught? Does— I guess they probably do. Who gets away with murder? OJ. Generally speaking, I don't know if people are thinking that far ahead when they commit murders. I don't know. But whether it's a deterrent or not, I think the death penalty is a national tradition worth preserving. Mark Davis in for Dennis. More of you are next. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Stay here. The Dennis Prager Show.
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Thank you, Dennis.
Always a pleasure, always a joy to be here on the Dennis Prager Show. I am indeed Mark Davis at 660 AM The Answer here in thriving Dallas-Fort Worth, here in Texas. We're making a little news here ourselves, as we always do. If those of you elsewhere are wondering if my state is about to turn purple or turn blue, that's going to be a big fat no. Here in 2 weeks from today, Greg Abbott is going to win. It's not going to be that close. Our Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick is going to win, and it ain't going to be that close. Our Attorney General Ken Paxton is going to win. I thought that one might be close. I no longer do. Uh, this is a red state. Uh, we're gonna fortify our role as such. Here's why everybody in Iowa and Utah and Alabama and Florida and Oregon and, uh, why conservatives ought to care about this is because if Texas is ever lost, if we are ever no longer a red state, you will never elect a Republican president again. We have 40 honking electoral votes now. 40. We've, we've upped ourselves to 38 congressional seats plus our 2 senators. That's how you calculate your state's electoral votes. And so we have 40 now. And so that's an 80-vote swing, an 80 electoral vote swing. And, you know, look at how close a lot of the past elections have been. You take 40 away from the Republican nominee and hand them over to the Democrat camp, that is an 80 electoral vote swing. Good luck. So yes, my state is important, and I'm spending every day prodding and cajoling everybody listening in my state to get out there and vote. Our early voting is underway. And with that, we find an interesting quandary, because I have never been a fan of early voting. I'm telling everybody to do it. I'm not stupid. But it's— I mean, I know that we've talked about my 40 years in talk radio being measured and observed today, for which I'm grateful. When I was a boy back in 1982 doing a talk show, we had one Election Day. And we knew what the results were by midnight. We got on with our lives. Do we have— do we just have too many people now? And we've gotten to the point where convenience is like the most important thing when it never has been. Having voting be convenient is great. I mean, it should not be ridiculously hard to vote. And here's the good news: it's not. Not for anyone. Voter suppression is a poisonous, poisonous, historically illiterate myth. I mean, now, did we have suppressed voter suppression in the past. Jim Crow, poll tax, literacy test, poll— of course we did poll taxes. Of course we did. Those are gone now. There's no excuse for not being able to vote. There's no excuse for not being able to show an ID to prove who you are and be recognized as who you are when you cast your in-person vote. Now we got mail, we got ballot dumping, we got Ballot harvesting. It's all for the birds. And Georgia has been voting since the 4th of July. I mean, I know it's only a couple of weeks, but we're in Texas. We just started yesterday. Here, didn't mean to turn this into a big early voting rant because I got a term limits rant to come to. And you may make a mini rant of your own at 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776. I've always believed that voting— the best democracy involves an election day, day singular. I'll play ball with you. I know we got a lot of people and not enough voting infrastructure. How about a long voting weekend? Saturday, Sunday, Monday. That ought to do it, don't you think? Wouldn't you think? 2 weeks, 4 weeks. Anyway though, our decision should be made based on the same shared window of information. Stuff happens in the last 2 weeks of a campaign, the last 4 weeks of a campaign. What if somebody voted for Raphael Warnock in Georgia today? And then, you know, somebody gets a hold of them and, you know, just some friend, some family member that says, really, you're in favor of, like, infanticide like Raphael Warnock is? They go, wait a minute, what? And then they learn something about abortion and the truths of it. And they go, man, I might not be a big Herschel Walker fan, but that Warnock guy is crazy. Well, you voted already. Sorry. So yeah, yeah, not an early voting fan. However, since it exists, get out there and take 10 people with you today, tomorrow, whatever day the polls are open so that we can actually have this wave that all the talk shows are talking about. You notice that all of us who do this for a living are talking a lot about the Republican wave. Here it comes. Oh my gosh, here it comes. Yeah, we could do this all day. It's ultimately in your hands. You have to vote. You have to help us save this country. And I have a good feeling about you. I think you're going to do it. Okay, term limits. Last guy, last hour says that, you know, in order to prove how serious they are about making democracy better, the first thing the new Congress ought to do is get very, very serious about term limits. Hooray, term limits! Huge crowd-pleasing concept, honestly, in almost any crowd, not just a Republican crowd. And I said I would tell you why we don't have them. I think you know. No, actually, there are two reasons. The first thing that probably occurs to you is the people who would give us term limits— it's almost like a conflict of interest— the people who would give us term limits are who? Elected officials, and are they going to cut their own throats? Are they going to vote themselves into planned obsolescence? Are they— you know, you can't expect elected officials to cut off their own gravy train, their own trough. So it's a challenge asking elected officials to limit the terms of elected officials. And that's true, that's true. However, the ultimate reason why we don't have term limits Not enough people want them. Wait a minute, Mark, I want them. Everybody I know wants them. My family wants them. My friends all want them. I can't find anybody that doesn't want them. Okay, here's the dirty little secret, though. We all like term limits for other people. When I think of why I want term limits, I think of Nancy Pelosi, Senator Robert Byrd, people in office for hundreds and hundreds of years, it seems. I don't think of getting rid of Ted Cruz. You're gonna tell me, because if we had all these golden term limits that everybody wants, I've got to get rid of Ted Cruz in 2 years. I love my state. You trust my state to give me another Ted Cruz? Shoot, no. He's there. I want him there, and I want him there as long as I want him. It's a marketplace decision. When I don't want Ted Cruz anymore, I'll let you know. Out in the primaries, and I don't envision that happening. Uh, my member of Congress out of Texas, 26th, is Dr. Michael Burgess. I've said he can be my congressman until we are both in our 90s because I love him. He's great. And I know all about the citizen legislature, and that's not what the founders envisioned, uh, you know, career guys and gals. I get it. But I— and I'm not— I'm certainly not anti term limit. I'm not opposed to the concept of term limits. I'm not hostile to it, not at all, not at all, not at all. If enough people— because if enough people decide we want it, we'll get it. Because what we have now is X percent of people running for office who say they— well, some people term limit themselves. They say, I will only serve for 12 years. That's the way the usual term limits plan gets rolled out. 2 terms in the Senate, 6 plus 6. 6 terms in the House, 2 years times 6, so 12 years both places. There's another detriment to term limits that sometimes people don't think about. Guess what's not going to get term limited? Guess who's not going anywhere? Lobbyists, the swamp, unelected tyrants that extend through the tentacles of government. Ain't no getting rid of them unless we elect the right people to do it. But they're, they're going to be a constant presence—staffs, lobbyists, pressure groups. So every 12 years you got to roll in a new green, fresh-faced person who might just get rolled by those lobbyists and pressure groups. There is something to longevity. There is something to knowing the game. So I, and I think first and foremost of the late, great, honorable Congressman Sam Johnson, who served in Texas' 3rd Congressional District, I mean, for decades. And you know how many days he was awesome? All of them. All of them. So I mean, I'm all right with term— I'm, call me ambivalent, you know. Everybody says they want him. I get it. I hear you. We can talk about it if you want to. Well, it seems like 2 weeks before an election is a good time to talk about term limits. But those are some of the reasons why they might not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and that is the definitive reason why we don't have them, because we simply don't have enough people who have demanded them. If we do, then we will have them. If we get people losing congressional races because, hey, you promised to vote for term limits and you didn't do it, so out with you. Well, guess what? We have not arrived at that point. So there's a little term limits 101. It is Tuesday, October 25th. The Dennis Prager Show, 1-800-PRAGER-776, 1-800-PRAGER-776. Prager 776. All things Prager at DennisPrager.com, PragerU.com for the wonderful PragerU videos. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis. Here we are taking calls, slinging hot topics, having a great time. Mark Davis, stick around. We'll be right back on The Dennis Prager Show. It is the Tuesday, October 25th Dennis Prager Show. Dennis is back tomorrow. In his stead, here I am, Mark Davis, host of The Morning Show on 660 AM. The answer— excuse me, I didn't— I misspoke, I misspoke. Uh, Dennis is back on Thursday. Who does tomorrow? Let's plug them. Oh, Bob Franz, voice of Cleveland. He's so great, he is so great. I'm a huge Bob Franz fan. So Bob is with you, you'll be well served by him tomorrow, and then Dennis returns on Thursday. All righty, to the phones, to the phones. Lots of things. Election 2 weeks away. What do you think? Talk about various specific states. DeSantis and Crist were on the debate stage last night. That did not go well for Brother Crist. Fetterman and Dr. Oz will be on the debate stage tonight. That probably won't go real well for— listen, if Fetterman were as— if Fetterman were as glib and had the facility of language of Ben Shapiro, it wouldn't go well for him on the debate stage last night because he would still be saying John Fetterman type things. As it is, we face the specter and the oddity— and I, uh, I don't know how this is going to go— of him just struggling with, with processing the English language, going in and out. I don't want that for him. I don't, you know, we can't have that in the Senate, I'll tell you that. So we'll just sort of see how that goes. And I've got some things to say about Arizona. Listen, we have a big listenership in Arizona, big listenership on the big Patriot station in Phoenix and various other folks. Out in Arizona, there are apparently people, because the polls seem to indicate this, because Kari Lake has a slight lead on this Katie Hobbs. Oof, what a piece of work she is. Won't even get on a debate stage with Kari Lake. Gee, I wonder why. Anyway, though, Blake Masters continues to be like 5 or 6 behind Mark Kelly. That means there are people who plan on voting for Kari Lake and then voting for a Democrat, Mark Kelly, for the Senate. What is the matter with you? I will lovingly ask that question here in just a little bit. And listen, maybe that's you. In fact, do me a favor. You know you'll be treated lovingly and respectfully. If you're in Arizona and you're planning on voting for Kari Lake and Mark Kelly, you're a ticket splitter. I'm sorry, it sounds like a playground taunt. Oh, Billy's just a ticket splitter. Let me hear from you because I'd like to, I'd like to explore that world a little bit. Let's explore a lot of worlds on the phones here, shall we? We are in Illinois and Mike, that is you. Welcome, Mike. Mark Davidson for Dennis Prager.
How you doing, Mark? Good, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call. I've listened to you for years. I appreciate it. Um, don't take my question in a negative connotation. It's one of the challenging things I want you to think as us as listeners and how we have to really think. You probably state that you have this vax and you've been both boosted and, and things like that. And I'd have to say, out of what we have seen already with factual information, everything else like this, with what you know even today, do you think it would be a mistake to actually be proud to be boosted and vaxxed or whatever the shot is that has been put into our bodies? Because ultimately, as Trump supporters, especially a vast majority of us, We believe this was a huge mistake by Trump. And to actually keep on doing this, all we did is degrade our constitutional rights, degrade people from their financial abilities. They've lost careers.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, well, separate it out because there are a couple of places to go. I'll do me for 60 seconds, then you do you. I don't know if I said proud. I think I said I'm glad to be. I'm thoroughly pleased. I'm glad I went and got it. That's great. Not because it ever kept me from getting it. I think that has been blown straight to smithereens. And that's why vax mandates never made any sense and why they don't make any sense today. But if somebody wants to get the vax and the boost because there's loads of evidence that it keeps you from getting horribly sick, might save your life, it might. But the notion of interrupting transmittal from person to person, that seems to be a completely defeated concept. But it ought to be up to you. So I've got, you know, so whatever anybody wants to do with the vax, That's up to them. I'm glad I did what I did. I know a lot of people who got very, very sick. I hope not to ever be one of them. But as far as every point you make, which I also agree with you about, the way we killed our education, we sacrificed all kinds of rights, we denied ourselves the service in the military and law enforcement, all kinds of people because of vax mandates. That was crazy. Let me stop and let you hop in. Go ahead.
Yes, just, just to make clear, I know you've I believe there's more study that needs to be shown where that actual shot reduces the time frame of having that. I've seen people that have had it for 2 days and it was done, and they had no shot.
I think— of course, I know that. I'm well aware of that. I know. I'm well aware of that too.
I know everybody's case is different, right? To make a claim, because we've heard many people make claims prior to these studies, and it came out that the people that were called Theorists or conspiracy theorists, they happen to be right. That's scary because when it comes to science, as I've taught my children and of in my college education, science is about the point of questioning, to be curious. But when we shut it down, that's absolutely— we lose.
1,000% agree that we should always remain completely open to opening our eyes and making judgments based on what seems to be happening in life. And if that begins to contradict what experts and what the Faucis and the CDCs of the world say, then it's time to maybe continue to have that conversation. No point of that conversation should ever be shut down online. Do you know the number of people that were kicked off Facebook, kicked off Twitter for something that was once called COVID disinformation? You know, so, yeah, we're largely on the same— To what degree? What's— I mean, let's, um, this is fascinating because I probably have—
there's still people who I know from my own church, they have posted things about COVID and they've been given warnings from Facebook still. What'd they say? Warning? It talked about disinformation. Your information has not been factually found yet. And it talks, you know, even about the transmittal issue.
Yeah, you know, here's— I'm an adult, you're an adult, I, you know, everybody ought to be a grown-up. And, and if somebody wants to throw down some hot opinion or hot take or whatever about COVID about elections, about anything. My perfect world is to let them do it, and then I'll read it and say, well, I agree with that guy, I disagree with that guy, I don't know what to think about that guy. That's how I'd like to conduct life. Rather— exactly— rather than having overlords at Facebook or Twitter or anywhere else summarily kick people off. Completely, completely agree. Thank you, man. Appreciate it very, very much. And let me take that directly to the election issue, because this is what the media culture is trying to do, is take anybody who dares to doubt the pure as the driven snow status of the pristine, clean, squeaky perfect 2020 election. You are an election denier. You are a threat to democracy itself. Good grief. Mark Davison for Dennis. Stick around. A lot more to come. The Dennis Prager Show. Dennis Prager Show, Tuesday, October 25th. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Glad you are here. And by that I mean all of you who are listening, and I mean all of you who are on the phone. 1-800-PRAGER-776. Glad to have you. Let's welcome some more of you here in just a second. The election is 2 weeks away. If you're just joining us, we're talking about prospects in various states and where the, the various situations might play out. There is something— as the day itself draws closer, it gets easier to kind of put your thumb on the pulse of where you think things are going to go. And I have obviously known, my dog knows, we're going to take back the House. The Senate, I've believed for a long time that that was doable. I now consider it to be strongly likely. 51 is all you need to have a Senate majority. There's something about 52 that sticks in my head. I mean, between, you know, because what you got to have— let's say Herschel wins but Blake Masters doesn't. Let's say that there's another pickup, but then there's just— it's kind of a— there's a list of things we're going to be able to achieve and a list of things we're not. There's a list of states where we will be successful, list of states we won't. If the plus side is too fatter than the downside, then we'll have a 52-48. Margin in the Senate. If the difference is 1, it's 51-49. If we get crazy greedy, which I'm often prone to do, then we get like a net pickup of 3. If Blake Masters— and that's why Arizona, doggone it, man, Kari Lake is going to win. She's going to beat this Katie Hobbs. And I know that Katie Hobbs is just inept. Mark Kelly is not. He's just a Democrat who says he's just wrong on every issue. To you. But if you're going to vote for Kari Lake and you turn around, vote for Mark Kelly, Democrat for Senate, that's just crazy. Don't do that. Every single vote, please. Every single Kari Lake voter, make sure you vote for Blake Masters as well. I mean, why not save your state and the country at the same time? Am I asking too much here? Mark Davidson for Dennis. Let's hop back to your calls. We are in New Hampshire. Mark, Mark Davidson for Dennis. How are you doing, sir?
I'm doing all right. How are you doing today?
Great. Thank you. Happy Tuesday.
Yeah. Um, so I, I'm able to get in and listen to you guys quite, quite often. And I constantly hear the word democracy thrown around that we need to save the democracy and save the democracy. And I just recently finished up with a constitution class. And one of the first things that, that we really discussed and debated was this term democracy. And we don't have a democracy. We don't want a democracy. What we have is a republic. And if we can keep it, as the old Benjamin Franklin quote goes. Yeah, if we degrade into a democracy, then that's basically when people figure out that they can vote themselves stuff.
And it's funny because there's a— because we are, for those wondering, we are not a direct democracy. We're a republic, a democratic republic, a constitutional republic where the will of the people is not— we don't throw referenda open for everything. We elect people. Who then do supposedly our bidding, and then we elect them or un-elect them as the case may be. There's a lot of what you're— the key difference, the notion of direct democratic response to everything, is a lot of what's behind getting rid of the Electoral College. They want the population centers to run America and do away with the Electoral College. The Founding Fathers were geniuses in creating the Electoral College. A lot of people want to do away with it. A lot of that has to do with the difference between democracy a republic. But you are correct. Where'd you take the Constitution course, and what made you think to do that?
Uh, well, it was, you know, I saw an advertisement out on my local community, um, local Facebook, and, you know, I did a little bit of digging, and the John Birch Society, they're the ones that hosted it, and it was at a local, you know, local house of mine. And it was interesting. I mean, I plan on going to another one because there was no way that I could pick everything up.
Um, can I ask you something? Wow, because you just— I could, I could hear eyebrows going up. Maybe this is old stuff, and I'm always a— it's important to me to maintain current views of the reputation of every person and every group. John Birch Society used to be kind of a wheels-off crowd, didn't they? I don't know if— how's— what kind of vibe are you getting? Uh, I mean, love of Constitution, that's great. Uh, anything wacky going on in there?
Well, from, from what was presented to us, no. Um, and I've, you know, I've read a little bit and heard a little bit, and like I said, I went to this class, you know, kind of with an eyebrow up, you know, kind of expecting the, you know, expecting the worst. And, and it wasn't. It was very informative.
Why did you, why did you go to a, why would you go to a class expecting the worst? Why would you walk into a room where it made sense to expect the worst?
Well, because you never— that's kind of my life mantra, you know, expect the worst, hope for the best.
You know something, there is wisdom in that, and thank you. And constitutional wisdom, I'll take it from anywhere. Mark Davidson for Dennis Prager, be right back.
Dennis Prager here, and I'm off today, and sitting in for me is a legendary broadcaster. Ask anybody in Dallas and you'll hear how accurate that is. And that is Mark Davis. Take it away, Mark. I know I'm in good hands with you.
Well, I hope everybody thinks so by the time when we're done in our third and final hour. Great to have all of you here. Thank you, Dennis. Bob Franz of Cleveland fame, the Answer morning host of record there in Cleveland. I love me some Bob. I heard Bob filling in for Hugh Hewitt while Hugh and Dennis and Mike Gallagher and all these folks were out on this, this exhaustive and exhausting battleground tour that visited many of the cities where a whole lot of you are listening. And Bob was talking about the differences between him and Hugh because Ohio runs thickly through both their veins. He said one of the differences is that Bob France will never— he may never say— I don't know if he said he would never say or never get used to saying Cleveland Guardians. It's the Indians forever for him. I am here in, in my native Texas where I've been back for almost 30 years. I grew up, however, in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. In the Maryland suburbs, and I bled burgundy and gold as a child for the Redskins. You will never hear Commanders coming out of my mouth. This is unbelievably stupid what's been done to our sports teams. It's George Floyd's ghost renaming teams. It's wrong. And this wokeness is— and there's, you know, it's funny, Daniel Snyder is in so much trouble in Washington for all kinds of other ancillary things, culture of of Lord knows what going on in that front office. And I think the other owners are about to kick them out of the league, which I don't care. And they have so alienated and driven me away. They're the team of my youth, you know, winning those Super Bowls in the '90s, or were great the year of Sonny Jurgensen, Bill Kilmer, Larry Brown. How do you not love that? But I'm here, my bread is buttered here, my wife is from here, and I'm a native. So it's Cowboys, Cowboys, Cowboys. And Lord knows that's an adventure every day too. However, uh, if, if, if they get a new— how do you think this would go? The Redskins get a new owner, or the what are called the Commanders today get a new owner. Would this person be allowed in the room? A new owner that says the first thing I'm going to do is change the name back. It's the first thing I'm going to do. I'm going to restore the history of this proud franchise. I'm bringing back the best fight song in the NFL's history, "Hail to the Redskins." I'm letting proud people wear the headdresses and all the garb which celebrated Indian culture. This entire thing of naming teams after Indian tribes, Indians themselves in the Cleveland case— and somebody said, "Well, wasn't Redskins back in the day kind of an epithet?" Well, if it was, and it was, I mean, you could find probably a 1943 Western which says, "We need to kill the dirty Redskins." Okay, but that's not the vein in which George Preston Marshall meant it. Who names a team after something negative? Who names a team after something they don't like? Who names a team after something they seek to disparage? So Chiefs, Braves, it's because of the imagery of being fierce in battle. It's fleetness of foot. It's— every time I look at a thing of Land O'Lakes butter, It's like where they used to have a wonderful Indian princess or something on the thing, and well, she's gone. And I don't know who made the joke, but it says it's just like, it's just like history. We, uh, the Indians gone, but we kept the land. Nah. So they, they plucked that imagery from the stupid Land O'Lakes butter logo. We've lost our ever-loving minds. And, and I, I feel like this election is not just— said this in the first hour— I feel as though it is not just a governmental statement like, hey, we want better policies. I think it is a desire to elevate people who are going to try through legislation and their own example and their own logic and their own bully pulpits to try to just retrieve some level of sanity One of the most important Americans speaking and writing and talking today and making appearances is Matt Walsh on Twitter, I guess, as Matt Walsh Blog. And he went out to— he was somewhere in Wisconsin and of course was viciously protested because when I was in college 112 years ago, college campuses were hotbeds of free speech. There were places— that was where you went to hear all sides of something so that you could make up your mind. All sides were welcome. I was actually at the University of Maryland during the Carter administration, and fresh off of Watergate, so my heavens, there were all kinds of opinions flying thick and fast. We had just extricated ourselves from Vietnam, so all kinds of opinions were flying thick and fast, and it was great. It was wonderful, and this is what Democrats used to care about, a variety of opinion, welcoming all voices to the table. No more. No more. And I think this election is— somebody said not long ago, who thought we'd wake up one day and the Republicans would be the cool people fighting for free speech and battling to let all voices be heard, and the Democrats would be the jerks and the fascists trying to shut people down? Who thought that would happen? Well, it has. and maybe this election is a, a response to that as well. Let the wave begin. And if there's early voting where your state is, then go be a part of that wave today. Alrighty, uh, telephone number is 1-877-618-776. We are in South Carolina. Tony Mark Davis, glad to kick off the hour with you. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Dennis Prager Show.
Hey, how you doing today? Listen, I have a question. I have a question for you. I heard Charlie Kirk mention 4 Republicans that probably will not be elected because Mitch McConnell has pulled funds away from their campaign because there are 4 Republicans that he won't be able to control. Okay, why is he allowed to control the money and why aren't other Republicans not addressing this issue with him.
Mitch runs a political action committee, the Senate Leadership Fund or whatever it might be called. There are others that are more conservative than Mitch is. It's all a big pile of money that gets devoted toward the kinds of candidates that they want. Mitch has the right, in a political action committee that he controls, to send that money wherever he likes. The rap against Mitch is that he does not want— that he flat out doesn't want Herschel. That sounded to me like a slap against Herschel when he made that snotty comment about candidate quality not long ago when he said that, you know, national elections are different. Candidate quality becomes an issue. And maybe Herschel Walker is not William F. Buckley, and maybe he's not— maybe he's not a saint, but he's right about abortion. He's right about borders. He's right about taxation. He's right about the entire list of conservative issues that we want, so I would have really enjoyed Mitch shutting up about that. But anyway, but Mitch is, uh, he's going to be Senate Majority Leader if the cards fall our way. I think he is going to have to deal with Herschel, because I think Herschel's going to win Georgia. So there we go. Alrighty, 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are next in Phoenix, and Murphy, that is you. Let me hit that button right there. Hi Murphy, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How you doing this Tuesday?
I am doing great. You are the best of the best. Well, you're incredibly kind. I mean, it's incredible. I don't— it astonishes me that you don't have a daily, uh, radio show. I mean, you—
well, I actually do, and it's right— it's right here in Dallas-Fort Worth, and I wouldn't have it any different different, and I love being able to hop over here and play in the national pool every once in a while. You're so kind. Give me a topic. We got 2 minutes.
Go. Uh, okay. Uh, yeah, do you agree with, uh, Blake Masters that Social Security should be ended?
Well, there are those who wonder whether we've been really well served by having government take a bunch of our money and then dole it back out to us. Wouldn't, wouldn't all of us who are financially responsible be better. I know I'd be better off if I'd have every dime of Social Security that they hadn't taken a dime from me and let me invest it. I'd be a million miles better off.
Um, and I get a Social Security check and I don't want to see it ended.
Oh no, you know, he's not talking about ending your benefits. He's talking about the system that we have now, the notion of, of ahead of time taking people's money, saying we got this, We're better than you would be. In fact, let me ask you, if you— if there had never been a Social Security deduction and you've been able to keep all that money, would you be better off today or worse?
I don't want to see old people eating out of garbage cans. Well, maybe—
let— now, now try answering the question. If you had kept all the Social Security money taken from you during your working years and been able to invest it yourself, do you think you'd would be better off today or worse?
I think the employer would have gotten a big tax break on it.
Well, I wish I had time to try a third time, but I, but I don't. But here's the thing, here's the thing that I do acknowledge: that requires responsibility. It requires doing smart things, and heaven knows not everybody does. So what are the smart things for government to do with the Social Security and Medicare entitlement programs? Let's talk about that as we continue, if you wish. Mark Davis in for Dennis, 1-800-PRAGER-776. Tuesday, glad you're here, and we'll be back in just a moment. The Dennis Prager Show. The Dennis Prager Show for this Tuesday, 25th day of October. Glad you are here. Phone number is 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. No shortage of stuff going on, and we're talking about all of it. All right, phone number is 1-800-776-18776, and we will hop back to your calls here in Dallas. Roger. Mark Davis in for Dennis. How you doing?
Happy Tuesday. Hey, good afternoon, Mr. Davis. Hi. I just want to start off by saying, uh, congratulations on your 40-year anniversary. Thank you, appreciate it very much. Um, So what I had told the screener is I believe we shouldn't— I mean, of course, mailing in person is always more better and secure, but if you recall during the 2020 election, they just— everyone assumed all Republicans would vote by mail. So then when the polls closed and all the mail-in ballots came in afterwards, they assumed there couldn't be any voter fraud because the Republicans would have voted by in person. So maybe It's better to vote in person always, but don't ever rule out mail-in ballots because that's what— if we, well, discouraged— go ahead, go ahead, I know what you're— yeah, if we encouraged all methods, then they couldn't immediately roll out any kind of, you know, voter—
no, exactly right. I, I don't— I, I ideally, I would like to think that we have the ability to have The very few people— I don't even know why we have a whole lot of mail-in ballots. There are so few people who have no reason, no ability to not be there in person. We have given— we've sacrificed everything to the gods of convenience, and we're screwed. There's just— if you want to vote, go to the doggone polling place and vote. The bar for voting by mail or just by carrier pigeon or whatever else ought to be astronomically high because the vast majority of us, and I mean vast, vast, vast, can somehow, especially as we're voting for a flippin' month, there is no excuse. You know, active duty military, and that's about it. So I would love to not have much of a need for voting by mail. I don't want to do away with it as a technology completely, but I want to encourage it. I would encourage everybody to vote in person just because that's the best way to do it, and there's less opportunity for mischief. 1-800-PRAGER-776. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We're in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and that is you. Let's hang on a second. Joshua. Mark Davis. Hi, welcome to the program, Dennis Prager Show. Mark Davis sitting in. How you doing? Good.
How are you? I am a— I was previously actually registered as a Democrat. I ran for local council. But now I've seen so much how the Democratic Party has been hijacked by foreign governments and foreign influence. I mean, it's just so clear to anyone who pays attention. So I am now registered as a Republican proudly. And yeah, I just want to go back to what the, what the previous caller said. I think we need more people going to the ballots in person. I think we need voting transparency. We really need to push that and hold hold the government accountable and have open elections where we can see what's going on behind the scenes. Push for that. Um, there is a lot of foreign interference, attempted foreign interference, but I do believe the spirit of the American people is stronger than any corrupt foreign governments. And then also, I would like to hear your thoughts on the Alex Jones trial and what that means for free speech. Even though he may have been wrong with what he said, it's still about the First Amendment and all that stuff going on at Infowars.com.
Yeah, let me give you— let me— I'll give you— let me give you 60 seconds on that and then tell me what you think. The things that Alex said were execrable and horrible. Monetizing them, turning them into a lottery ticket for people, it was a little weird to me. I'm a big believer in the marketplace deciding which shows they like, which shows they don't, and having that be what determines things. If somebody is guilty of libel or slander, those are actionable, etc., etc., the various types of demonstrable harm. I have not much of a quarrel about these families, these grieving families whom he savaged, seeking something from him in terms of damages. Ain't nothing gonna bring their babies back, so I don't know how much that gets to be. I think eventually we get sufficiently punitive that we try to do things that are designed to deliver a message. Maybe that restrains the next broadcaster from saying lunatic things. Okay, but, um, I don't know, the, the degree— the billion dollars— I, I mean, I don't know at what point it start— would start to strike me as an oddity. But, um, you know, I, I am a big fan of— uh, they're going to be always going to be shows out there that I agree with, disagree with, some people saying things that strike me as horribly reckless. And if enough people believe that, they'll stop listening. Those shows will go away. I tend to be a marketplace guy. I'll stop talking. You fill in the blanks and avoid blatant plugs because that's just stupid. So what's your thought on the actual issue?
Well, I agree with most of what you said. I think— so I'm a First Amendment absolutist. And, you know, we all say things that are wrong sometimes. So, you know, I think sometimes I mean, he's, he has said he's apologized many times and he has children of his own, so I don't think he would ever want to see any families or children harmed. So I think it was an honest mistake.
I definitely don't think it's worth— I think I don't, I don't believe, I don't believe that for a minute. I think Alex is a lunatic, and I think if when somebody shows you what you are, you believe them. Now, should lunatics have talk shows? Sure. You know, I don't care, you know, but, and there are things that people could say that are libelous and are slanderous, which are actionable, etc., etc., etc. And I don't hate the guy. I don't care. Everybody gets a show. Let's say what you want. It might not be my cup of tea, but, uh, that, that was it. It required an enormous amount of, of, of mental disconnect to say those things. And for there to be some kind of price for that, I don't have a big problem with it.
Well, you have a valid point there. I mean, my stance on it is I think he's said a lot more truth than lies or misinformation. I think, yeah, maybe Hitler loved his dog too.
And so I just, you know, and then I say that, who's going to Alex Jones Hitler? Generally speaking, there are people, there are good people who can, there's one bad thing that you can do. I mean, listen, I like to think of myself as a good person. If I walk out and, you know, and blow somebody's brains out outside the studio today— yeah, but Mark did so many good things. Yeah, it's possible that there are things you can do, and maybe, and maybe they don't define your whole life, but they're going to be consequences. There are going to be consequences, and there should be. What should those consequences be? Well, that's, that's open for debate. All righty, debate's what we're about. Mark Davison for Dennis Prager. Stick around, please. It is Tuesday, October 25th. Dennis Prager Show, guest hosted by me, Mark Davis. Howdy. 660 AM The Answer, Dallas-Fort Worth, my broadcast home each morning. And it's always a pleasure to knock out one show and then come do another one, especially when it is the Dennis Prager Show. Phone number again is 1-800-776-18776. All things Dennis can be found at DennisPrager.com. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis, M-A-R-K Davis. We're just slinging hot topics here in the home stretch half hour, taking a look at various things in preparation for the election 2 weeks from today. House will go Republican, the Senate will too if you guys do what we are telling you to do. I don't mean telling you where you should follow in some lockstep. It should be if you have a conservative strand of DNA in you, it should be an energizing thing so that you can hop to an early vote if your state provides it. But let's all focus on the election returns of November 8th so that when they come in, when it becomes clear the way people have voted across these 50 states, that, that we will have done exactly what seems to be in the cards, what the polls seem to be leaning toward. 2 weeks is a long time. Polls can swing back the other way. October surprises can still happen. All kinds of crazy mischief and nonsense can still occur. So that has a lot of people a little edgy, a little jumpy. So we're measuring all of that as we go to more of your calls. 1-800-PRAGER-776. We are in Covina, California. Russ, Mark Davis in for Dennis. How are you, sir?
Nice to have you. Very well, thank you very much, and good on you. You're such a wonderful voice for common sense and liberty.
Thank you. You're very kind.
I wanted to discuss the idea of democracy There's widespread confusion about that. I think we need to clarify it. It's something you and Dennis are excellent at, and that is our form of government is representative. Democracy is the process we use. That's voting. All of us, we the people, are always directly involved in the process of democracy by voting. It's just that simple.
Completely correct. And a lot— see, democracy is thrown around, and understandably, lovingly, patriotically so. You know, the fight— we use it kind of poetically, lyrically, but we're not a direct democracy, and thank God for that. I think maybe Switzerland is, and you know, that's awesome. We can see how that works out. But we are indeed a constitutional republic where we— and you've nailed it exactly well— that democracy, people showing up and voting, that's how we determine who wins the seats of the people who then go to Washington and represent us in our republic and our form of government as a constitutional republic. Let me ask you, there have been about 2 or 3 calls today where we've sliced and diced this. Why do you think that's important? And why do you think I think being slow to that concept is dangerous.
The founders chose this process or procedure so that government would be limited and responsible. And direct democracy opens the door to irresponsible government because it because then people don't represent the voters. And limited, responsible government is really the issue, and then how responsible our elected representatives do their job to serve us. They're in public service, not for their own sake.
Are you a— you got like 60 seconds. We went through a fascinating term limits back and forth. Are you a big term limits guy or ambivalent about that?
I kind of agree with you. I'm not opposed to them. They're kind of a good idea, you know, but I think maybe individual cases should— voters should be informed and try to be intelligent about it and look, say, are they doing the job, and hold their feet to the fire to it, and then decide Do they deserve another term or not? That we've been lazy. We've been lazy and we haven't paid attention. People don't pay attention and they don't think it's important. It's really—
that's exactly true, Russ. It's superb. Wonderful answers to some intriguing questions. Good job. Thank you. Appreciate you. Best to everybody in Covina. I— because that's the thing is I just keep— I'll just keep saying this to people. Use the— use this if you want. Use me. So, hey, term limits, term limits, term limits. Okay, love it. Potentially. Just say, do you want Mark Davis to no longer be able to vote for Ted Cruz? Do you want— listen, it ain't just about Texas. If there's anything I've come to appreciate, the Senate is everybody's business. Individual states get to vote. I get to vote for Ted Cruz, but I gotta tell you, it's a better country for you if he's there. I don't get to vote for Herschel Walker, but it's a better country if he wins. I care about all the states. All right, things you care about right here, 1-800-PRAGER-776. Mark Davis in for Dennis. The Dennis Prager Show. This is the end of our show today, and I'll be back at some point, but when I am, it'll— I presume, unless something happens in the next 2 weeks— Bob France is with you tomorrow. Our last opportunity to get together before the election. Next time we'll be talking hopefully about the celebrations that we're enjoying after the election. Today is also, and thank you for kindly indulging me on this, it is my 40th anniversary of doing talk shows. And the path that I've been on has led me to this gig in Dallas-Fort Worth with Salem, which gives me the chance to hang out with you from time to time. And I also engage in a little prayer at the beginning of every show that I do, and I thought I'd share it on the way out today because we should be in a stance of prayer about this election and quite frankly everything else. So Lord, guide us and protect us as we face the challenges of this new day. We thank you every day for this blessed nation and for your hand in creating it. Fill our hearts with the energy to protect the freedoms which come from you, which our nation was founded to protect. Let us navigate these troubling times with a positive spirit, treating others as we would want to be treated. Lord, these are times of trial and challenge, so lift us as we follow your word and work for a better America where our Constitution is honored where our schools are safe, our elections are reliable, our borders work, where we protect the unborn, we fight for the meaning and the intent of the two— count them, two— genders that you created, and where our differences are hashed out with honesty and goodwill, and our freedoms of speech and worship are protected. As we face each day's problems, give us the clarity to look around and still cherish our many blessings. We follow you, Lord. We know we can get through anything. And we ask these things in your holy name. Amen. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks to Sean and everybody in the whole Prager team, audio, video, Suzette for screening the calls. God bless y'all. Follow me on Twitter @MarkDavis. Dennis is back on Thursday. Bob France tomorrow. I'll see you soon. God bless this great nation.
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