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You up and keep you quiet that don't involve physical force. The powers that be, and that now includes major corporations, the educational establishment, the media, and the government, can just kick you off the internet, put you on a no-fly list, and bar you from using the banking system. We can describe scenario number 1 as hard totalitarianism and scenario number 2 as soft totalitarianism.

All right, that's a good spot to, uh, to break and now introduce Roger Dennis Prager. Rod is in Louisiana. Rod and I last met, aside from my studio, in Hungary when I was speaking at a conference there, and he speaks there a great deal, and he has a lot of important thoughts on America, on Hungary, and the world. So Rod, hi, welcome back. So Tell me, I'm very interested and I think all my listeners should be. I don't think most are in what's happening in Hungary. Viktor Orbán is the most hated figure, I think, since Trump. Is that fair to say? By the Western media. We're not hearing Rod. How could that be? I spoke to Rod. For 5 minutes prior to coming on. All right, here we are. Yes, I can.

Uh, okay. Uh, Viktor Orbán is certainly the most hated man by the Western media. And, uh, just this week, or maybe it was late last week, Donald Trump endorsed him for reelection, which is causing the hair of all the liberal media to catch on fire. But it's gonna help him in his reelection bid in Hungary because there are still a lot of people, uh, conservatives in Hungary who think Trump did the right thing. So, but the thing I tell my friends is like, listen, you cannot trust what the Western media had to say about Viktor Orbán, about Hungary, about Poland, or any of the right-of-center parties in Europe because our media come at it all from a liberal point of view and they, they massage the facts. They twist things to make it seem like some Nazi takeover when in fact people like Viktor Orbán are just people who love their country and don't want the globalists to ruin it.

What do you think they hate about him most, that he's a nationalist?

Yeah, I think so. I mean, the, the first thing that made him— that made them really angry at him was he would not let this mass of immigrants from the Middle East in 2015 that Angela Merkel invited into Europe— he didn't want them to stay in Hungary because he realizes that Hungarian culture is something very particular. There are only about 9 million Hungarians in the world. And if they lose what they have, then they're gone. They're gone from history. And this is seen as racist by the globalists and others in the EU. But Orbán is simply defending his people and defending their way of life. This past summer when I was over there, Dennis Prager, there was a huge row after the Orbán government passed a law that would not allow people to send LGBT propaganda to children and minors. That was the state of the law. It said only children and minors. Well, the Prime Minister of the Netherlands blew up and said that, uh, we should kick Hungary out of the EU. Hungary is not trying to make Belgium or the Netherlands or France into Hungary. They're just trying to protect their own way of life and their own kids. And for this, he's hated.

By the way, explain to me that. I don't even understand that. What does that mean, banning LGBT propaganda to children? Does that mean schools sending them mail? I don't follow.

Yeah, they could not teach LGBT stuff in schools without the parents' explicit permission, which strikes me as normal. They can't have things like we have in the US where you might remember last summer, Blue's Clues, the popular children's program had a special segment where a drag queen, an animated drag queen, sang a pride parade marching song. That sort of thing is not allowed to happen in Hungary because of the law. It strikes me as the kind of law that is sensible, you know, and maybe not all countries want to have.

Look, I don't even think there should be heterosexual sex education in school. But so It's not the place of schools to tell my children about these subjects. That's my job. But of course, the left wants to undermine parental authority. Do you know, by the way, you probably don't know, and I don't blame you, it's my job every day to know this stuff. Yesterday or last week, Washington State passed a law that a 13-year-old can undergo sex change surgery without parents knowing it. They don't need parental permission. Yeah, 13.

And, you know, our friend Abigail Shrier has been documenting this sort of thing over and over and over again. The mainstream media don't want to talk about it because it undermines the progressive narrative. But people have to wake up, Dennis, have to realize that what we're seeing is the left trying to take children away from their parents. This is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union, and it's no surprise that the people who came to this country, to America, from the Soviet bloc are trying to sound the alarm about this incipient totalitarianism that is rising all around us, but the rest of us don't seem to see.

Right, but their children become like Sergey Brin. Parents come from the Soviet Union, and he runs Google. And runs free speech to the ground. How do you explain that?

It's unbelievable. You know, when I was in Poland researching my book Live Not by Lies, I found that the post-communist generation of Poles have no memory of what happened under communism because their parents, their grandparents didn't want to burden them with all those bad memories. The problem is now these kids are sitting ducks for Western propaganda.

Yes, maybe parents should burden their kids.

Yeah, absolutely.

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Southwest was devastated this week, straight up lying, talking about it was the weather, the reason why 2,000 flights were canceled over the weekend, Friday through Sunday, and then, um, over 300 or nearly 400 more on Monday. But the truth of the matter is a lot of these people just called out sick. They just called out sick. They've been threatened by their employer because their employer happens to be a federal contractor. And because of that, because the federal government has their hands in Southwest Airlines, they have to comply. Now here's the news, uh, nothing has happened as of yet. So technically Southwest Airlines does not have to comply right now. And they can wait for OSHA to make whatever edict they're going to lay out that has not been done thus far. But nonetheless, they suspect that it is coming down the pike. You get all these pilots, 10,000 pilots, 60 to 70% of these pilots are men and women that fought for our freedom, and we're going to kick them off the freaking job. Can you imagine the disruption? You talk about, we look at the ports in California. Can you imagine the supply chain disruption if now we can't even unload cargo ships and we're gonna have fewer and fewer pilots, fewer trained pilots? I don't wanna fly. I don't know if they're gonna be like United Airlines and bring social justice warrior pilots on. I don't even wanna fly. Listen, if you're a pilot, I don't care if you're pink, red, white, I want the best doggone pilot. When I'm sitting up in that can 30,000 feet above the ground.

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I have never seen in my life the orchestrated hatred to a group of Americans as I am seeing now. It's orchestrated hatred. You are allowed to hate the unvaccinated, even if the unvaccinated had COVID already and there is no scientific reason whatsoever for them to take as minimal a risk as it is the vaccine. You are to hate these people. They are killers. They are killing you. And themselves. This is this piece of crap governor of California on television.

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Hi everybody. You can watch us, by the way. You can watch almost everyone I now dialogue with on the Dennis Prager Show, and of course watch me on the Salem News Channel. Get the app or go to the website. Rod Dreher is my guest. We were together in Hungary last summer, and he has put up a He has put up a video at PragerU, the latest video, and it's very sad that it's even up. Totalitarianism, can it happen in America? Right now, at this very moment, on this date, do you think that there is any— are there any positive signs? In the United States? Again, we're not hearing Rod.

Can you hear me now?

Yes, I do. Yes.

Yeah. Well, I think the only positive sign that I see, Dennis, is that more and more people are starting to wake up to the reality of the kind of country we have become. But we have so much farther to go before people will get energized to fight back. Just yesterday when I sent a friend of mine who's in the military a link to the PragerU video about totalitarianism, because he had mentioned to me that he thinks totalitarianism is on its way, he told me that he couldn't click on the link because it's too dangerous to watch anything to do with Dennis Prager. He's afraid his commanding officer will see it and he'll be kicked out of the military. And, uh, he said that we can't talk about these things. Because the witch hunt in the military is real. Dennis, I hear this all the time in my email box. And when I go out to give speeches, people who are either active duty now or who recently got out of the military are saying that this wokeness that has overtaken the military in the last 2 years, especially under Biden, is making it untenable for people who are conservatives, people of traditional religious faith to stay in the military. And this is really, really frightening. And this is happening in our own country right now. It's not in Russia, it's not in some other country. It's in America.

It's what was known in Stalin's Soviet Union as purge. There's a purge taking place. Is that, is that fair to say?

Absolutely, it's fair to say. I have a friend who's involved in the national security field, and he said this is going on right now. And the, uh, they, they're using January 6th as the Reichstag fire moment. You know, the, the idea that we have to go stop all these right-wingers, we have to purge them from the military to keep our democracy safe. In fact, they're undermining the democracy and they're undermining our commitment to the country. When they say people aren't fit to serve in the military because they listen to Dennis Prager or they read the wrong things or they hold the incorrect views, we're talking about Civil War type stuff. Then this is something the left is forcing on our country and on our military right now.

I'm sighing because I'll tell you, I never thought that my name would trigger such reactions, and I don't even think it's deserved. Netflix did not stream my movie with Adam Carolla, No Safe Spaces, and we found out from someone on Netflix because I'm in it And I always ask people, could you tell me what I have said in my lifetime of work? I've been on radio 40 years. That would render me so unacceptable? What would the commander say? Oh, this guy is not acceptable. PragerU is not acceptable. What exactly? I mean, we have 500 videos like yours up. Thoughtful people like you. But the answer really is, if you are an effective anti-left voice, you are to be shut up. Is that a fair assessment?

That's completely fair. And that, by the way, is why they hate Viktor Orbán, because he's so effective. And you're effective. And I hope that I can be effective.

But you are. You are.

Well, this book of mine has sold very, very well, as you mentioned, but it has done so without any attention from the mainstream media.

This is a fun— this is very important, by the way. I just want to tell people, if I may say the number, you told it to me before, 150,000 copies. Most of you, my listeners, do not know how big a number that is. In order to make it onto the New York Times bestseller list, which is a fraudulent list, but nevertheless, 20,000 copies gets you on that list. And he, his book sold 150,000 and no mainstream media has, have promoted it. So that tells me something, how big the alternate media are.

Yep. And it's word of mouth too, Dennis. Here's the thing that, that upsets me though. We still don't see Republican politicians speaking out against wokeness. You have people like J.D. Vance who's running for Senate in Ohio. He speaks out. You have Marco Rubio and Josh Hawley and sometimes Ted Cruz. They'll speak out. But by and large, the Republican establishment is still keeping its own counsel. I don't understand it.

You're really a kindred spirit, Rod. I said for all of my life that there were There's a civil war. I, I said this 25 years ago, and the problem is only one side is fighting.

Yep, yep, that's true. And the, the thing that I hope people who read Live Not by Lies will understand is that this is not going to be totalitarianism in the way that we're accustomed to with gulags, secret police, things like that, right? This is so much more subtle. You don't need the government to come in and put people in jail when you have Big business, academia, the media, all of them working together to marginalize, to cancel, to sideline any critic. That's what we're living through now. It's a form of totalitarianism I call soft totalitarianism, but it is no less totalitarian for that.

And amazingly, I just wanna say, 'cause my column this week is we are freer right now than virtually any Western country. That's the irony. With all of our movement toward tyranny, we are freer certainly than our neighbor to the north, Canada, where if you're not vaccinated, you can't board a plane, right?

We are the last best hope.

That's right.

World in terms of freedom. And, uh, and that's scary when you see how far things have degenerated here.

Everything is relevant. By the way, did they lock down Hungary I'm afraid they did.

I mean, that's one place that our friend Viktor Orbán— I say our friend, the guy we like Viktor Orbán— he's not on board with you and me on this, and I regret that, but that's where he stands.

I was invited to do the podcast of the son of Benjamin Netanyahu, Yair Netanyahu, in Israel by Zoom. Or by some other means. In any event, I did it. I mentioned this, and he said that— meaning the COVID lockdowns and the vaccines— and he said that's the one area where we in Israel differ with conservatives in America. So Hungary is not alone. The last bastion is still America. Rod Dreher's video is up at DennisPrager.com. Rod You're doing great work.

Thank you, Dennis, and thanks for your support. That video is fantastic.

Thank you.

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But as I said, had they not acquitted him in this vile prosecution from a vile prosecutor, it would have ended to a very large extent the whole notion of self-defense in the United States of of America. The service this jury performed cannot be overstated. Absolutely cannot be overstated. Yes, you can shoot people who are out to shoot you. This is about as elementary a moral ideal as exists in the human race, and that's what this young man did.

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You have Attorney Binger pick up an AR-15.

Oh my God. Yeah.

And just decide with the— you have better trigger posture than him, Kyle. Kyle, what is he pointing at?

Is he threatening the The jury? Pretty much. He was pointing his gun at the gallery and I looked at my attorney. That's your gun, right? That's my rifle. Yeah, that is yours, right? That we're having destroyed right now. We don't want anything to do with that.

Oh, okay.

So I looked at Cory and I said, Cory, that's gun safety 101. Loaded or unloaded, treat a gun like it's loaded.

And he points it at the jury.

Exactly.

I think at that point I said, all right, they're freaking out. I mean, they got nothing left.

So there's this video that the FBI had in their archives 14 months. It clearly shows you being chased down by this deranged individual, corners you, all of it HD. You know, this isn't, you know, behind the cars because— and this was always key that you know, people who are looking at this never got is that all the camera footage from that night was surface level, right? Because it's handheld. So and of course, Richie thinks he has his camera going, but he doesn't. And he's beating himself up over that. But you know, it happens in the heat of the moment that this thing is above, looking down, sees the whole thing. You can actually see the anger and just, just, you know, insanity. In Rosenbaum's face as he's chasing you that I don't think you show that face to anybody, that they would think that this guy, let alone threatening to kill them twice that night. Right, right. That he has anything other than, you know, very dangerous, evil intentions.

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Hi everybody, I'm Dennis Prager. You may not remember this, but I covered this quite extensively, the largely Pakistani immigrant grooming gangs, which makes Epstein look, uh, it's, it's in the Epstein league, but it's, uh, it could be even worse. They groom girls in, uh, in England and then force them into, uh, prostitution and, or just used them for gangs of them. I mean, it's a horrible story, and it was covered up because they were Pakistani and they didn't want to be considered racist. So girls were horribly abused, teenage girls, and the police and the authorities simply covered it up. Well, here's— this is now from just the last week, Times of London. Police have been accused of failing the victims of grooming gangs after an investigation found that the force at the center of the Rotherham scandal— that, that was the, uh, that was the place. I don't know if I'm pronouncing the name correctly. R-O-T-H-E-R-H-A-M. Rotherham. Scandal was still not recording the ethnicities of suspected child abusers. You hear that? A secret intelligence report showed that South Yorkshire Police were disregarding basic details of child sex offenders nearly a decade after the Times revealed widespread abuse. That's what I— that's what it was, a decade ago. In the town, largely by men of Pakistani heritage. In the 12 months to December 2019, officers in all 4 Yorkshire police districts routinely failed to log the ethnicity of those suspected of sexually abusing minors. The highest failure rate was in the Rotherham district, where the ethnicity of 67% of suspects went unrecorded. There you go. Remember, uh, it's— we have very short memories because there's a bombardment of news every day, so people forget almost everything. One of my teachers said it was a bad idea to cram for tests because he had a great line: what goes into your brain fast goes out of your brain fast. So that's what we have with the bombardment of news. Things go in fast, but they leave fast. But I remember some of these events. Here's one I remember. A German woman, young woman, not minor, young woman, was raped. I think gang raped. And she said to the authorities in Germany— I think I said she was a German girl, right? She told the authorities that it was German men who did this. When in fact it was men from the Arab Middle East. And she did that. Her father was a big official in the European Union, and so she did it to protect these— the people who've come into Germany from the Middle East and North Africa from any antipathy on the part of the German people. She lied about who raped her to protect the, uh, the Muslim immigrants. So this is, this is the, the world of England, and this is a good example of what in the name of protecting minorities, the amount of damage to society that is taking place, like the dropping of standards on exams in schools to ensure equity. Left is no longer interested in equality, but rather in equity. Equity is not a moral ideal, by the way. Equality is a moral ideal. Equity means the results have to be equal. No matter how much talent or work— how much talent you have or work you put in doesn't matter. You can't be rewarded as you have earned the reward. Standards are to be shattered. Justice, truth is shattered. In England or in Germany in the name of minorities. Back in a moment, 1-800-PRAGER-776. What was that, Sean? Yes, a product I endorse so strongly I actually invited them to be a sponsor of the show and they obviously responded. And obviously you're responding. You have Tingling Or you have numbness in your hands or feet. I have it. I've had it in my feet much of my life. I had inserts made that worked, special inserts, but of course only when you wore the shoes. Read about Nerve Renew and within a year I threw away the inserts and never went back. If you have this tingling or numbness, give it a 2-week try for free. And a year money-back guarantee. Try NerveRenew.com. Try NerveRenew.com.

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The public would be outraged if they knew the truth.

Why do you think our politicians are not on the sidewalk right now talking to you? Don't have no respect.

The old wall randomly turns into a guardrail followed by miles of open border. That journey is extremely dangerous. The 7-year-old girl died in the desert from the country of India. A great pillar of the community was killed by a man who had been deported at least twice.

This little urn contains the ashes of my son, his dreams cut short forever.

We're so worried about other countries' problems, and we don't even focus on our own.

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Children taught at age 5 they can create their gender identity, and it's being celebrated. Schools are lining up to push the transgender agenda on kids and cut parents out of the equation. Every cell of their body that has a nucleus is male or female. We've now seen parents losing custody of their children. If they don't go along with this. We've all been created XY or XX, so that means there's only two genders. And so really the battle is against the Creator.

Look for Salem Now in the App Store or go to SalemNow.com. Streaming on Salem Now. Have you ever wondered what I have to say about a specific politician, issue, or country? You can now go to DennisPrager.com. Search for and listen to my views on just about anything. That's right, I now have my very own search engine. You can even share these clips with your friends. Visit my website at DennisPrager.com. That's right, listen to this. New York Post: Manhattan's progressive new DA Alvin Bragg just gave a green light for anarchy. Yeah, why were it for what the left want? People always ask, what is the end game of the left? It's a great question. Not sure the left knows, but the ultimate end is chaos. It's a force for chaos. I realized that when they came out with men give birth. Men give birth as a statement of chaos. So with crime now, it's chaos. So I read to you from the New York Post. Old: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. New: if you can't do the time, Alvin Bragg will be there for you. That much just became clear As the newly minted Manhattan DA issued marching orders to his hundreds of assistants and support staff: "Let's do our very best to keep people out of jail, kids, and let's really, really not sweat the small stuff." Okay, Bragg didn't actually say that, but it pretty faithfully paraphrases the guts of a staff memo Bragg issued this Monday the first business day of his 4-year term. Specifically, Bragg says his office, quote, will not seek a carceral sentence. It's a new word to me, carceral. So the author explains it: carceral is progressive doublespeak for prison. What is carceral? Look it up. I don't want to— no, it's not a food, Sean. Disturbing. Any word Sean doesn't know, he thinks is edible. Specifically, Bragg says his office will not seek a carceral sentence for anything short of murder or deadly assault, and he says minor crime won't be prosecuted at all. In other words, jail is to be reserved for axe murderers and their ilk, armed robbers, and heavyweight drug dealers. Are to be minimally inconvenienced, and just forget about the quality of life or enforcement— law enforcement that was the beating heart of the Giuliani-era rescue of New York City decades ago. Victims? Let them hunker down and hope for the best. No place for them in Manhattan anymore. And Mayor Eric Adams can just forget about his oft-promised crackdown on the city's dangerously rising crime rates because there's no point in picking up criminals if you have no jail to put them in. Yeah, that doesn't— I don't care about the pronunciation. What does it say it means? Okay, relating to a prison. There you go. All right, thank you. He thinks it's carcerole, so he has a picture of some food. Off somewhere wearing a sardonic smile must be billionaire George Soros, the arch-anarchist. That's very good. That's a very good title. See, he's a leftist and he's an anarchist. Anarchist— anarchy and chaos are almost synonymous. George Soros would like to bring down as much of the West as possible. He is one of the few people I would say is evil. I don't think there is anything good about the man. He, he is as close to pure evil as we get. If you can't acknowledge George Soros is evil, we don't have a— you and I don't have a shared value system. That's all. It's, it's very— it offers you clarity. George Soros is demonic, or George Soros is angelic. Okay, that he, that he bankrolls people who will allow people to hurt people and steal and rob and loot and break in and do other horrible things. This is a truly despicable human being. And he is. I wrote about Soros about 10 years ago. I wrote a column about him when a few people were thinking about him. You might want to check it out. Just put in my name and his, my column will come up. The arch-anarchist who's been lavishing big bucks on progressive district attorney candidates for years now, and who kicked in a reported million dollars to Bragg's campaign last year. Soros-backed DAs reign in Los Angeles, where flash mobs steal property in the hundreds of millions. And in Philadelphia, a city— yeah, that's right, what is— I forgot the guy's name in Philadelphia. That's right, that's the, uh, that's the city the left is most damaged in the country. Every major institution has been compromised, if not ruined. A city that posted more murders than New York last year despite having one-fifth New York's population. Larry Krasner. Correct. Now Soros has hit the jackpot. Bragg holds America's foremost local law enforcement office in terms of volume, influence, and prestige. In other words, whatever it is that Soros has in mind, Bragg both owes him and is perfectly positioned to oblige him, and on the grandest stage in America. That's correct. People voted for him, however. Another distressing sign of our times, when people vote in district attorneys that won't prosecute people unless they have murdered or violently assaulted, and then they're let out in many cases. In any event, I'm keeping track. Just, I don't search, but if it comes up on some website another murder, how often it is that the person has a rap sheet and they were let out by a district attorney or by a liberal judge, and they, they never attend the funerals.

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America, if anybody wants it. But, um, the answer is yeah, I wish I had thought about ordering a half a billion pills 2 months ago before COVID hit here. But we're nearly 2 years into this pandemic. You're a year into the presidency to see empty shelves and no test kits in some places 3 days before Christmas when it's so important. Is that good enough? No, nothing's been good enough.

But look, we are—

when last Christmas we're in a situation where we had significantly fewer vaccinated people, vaccinated emergency rooms were filled. Well, Mr. President, yes. I would have to agree with you on that. For once, there's something you and I agree on. Nothing has been good enough.

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This is Carol Platt-Liebow for townhall.com. China has built the largest DNA database in the world, and it's only growing. This should concern all of us. That's because China could use this information in the future, perhaps, for example, to build bioweapons targeting specific ethnic groups. Given this background, common sense dictates that Americans shouldn't be storing their DNA or other personal information with Chinese-linked firms. Quite sensibly, after getting an FBI briefing about the firm's connections to China, the Los Angeles County Sheriff notified the county that his office wouldn't work with Fulgent. That's the genetics firm LA County hired for mandatory COVID testing and registration. Fulgent even admits in a public disclaimer it stores information outside the United States where data privacy protections may not be as secure. I'll bet. What's alarming is how many others have chosen to work with Fulgent. The question is why.

publicpolicy.pepperdine.edu Tomorrow I am going to concentrate on a piece by a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins Medical School, School of Medicine, Marty McCurry. And I'd like to read to you one thing today from his piece, long piece, Man of Courage. Before I read it to you, I just want to note, when I say man of courage, my Ultimate Issues Hour this, this week— yesterday, was it yesterday, was it last week? I think it was last week's, actually. Yeah, it was last week's, was about the outlier does all the good. Nearly all good. It was yesterday. Oh yes, it was yesterday. Wow. Why do I think yesterday was a week ago? How interesting. The outlier is the one who does the most good. And that, that has become clearer to me in the last 2 years than ever in my life. And that is true in our country. Marty Makary is one of them. Listen to what he writes about his fellow doctors: The medical establishment is intoxicated with groupthink. See, when I tell you these things, you'd say, well, you know, does a doctor say that, or just you, a layman? Medical establishment has been corrupted. It is extremely depressing to think of how many doctors are sheep, dangerous sheep. The medical establishment is intoxicated with groupthink. You know, if you ever find yourself— it's really worth asking at any time— are you going along with the group, or do you really believe something? Just as it had in believing that COVID spreads through surface transmission, And then he gives something that I spoke about from the beginning, and then instituting barbaric policies that prohibited people from visiting their dying loved ones. Barbaric. This is a professor of medicine at a prominent medical school describing his fellow doctors as engaging in a barbaric practice. That's what did it for me. You can't visit your dying parent. See you tomorrow.